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superdude
Member Fri Feb 05 15:19:37
The American people will not be fooled with some of these shenanigans.

http://www...-issues-during-the-vote-a-rama

-Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C. introduced an amendment supporting the reduction of federal money going to states where there's an investigation into underreported nursing home deaths. It did not pass.

-Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., introduced an amendment opposing coronavirus relief funding for schools that don't reopen after teachers had a chance to get the coronavirus vaccine. It did not pass.

-Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., introduced an amendment opposing sanctuary cities. It did not pass.

-Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., introduced an amendment supporting former President Trump's remain in Mexico program. It did not pass.

-Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., introduced an amendment supporting the continued construction of the border wall. It did not pass.

-Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, introduced an amendment opposing the violation of free exercise of religion. It did not pass.

Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., introduced an amendment opposing court-packing. It did not pass.

-Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., introduced an amendment to oppose coronavirus stimulus payments for prisoners. It did not pass.

-Lee introduced an amendment opposing the Biden administration's decision to limit oil and gas leasing on federal lands. It did not pass.

-Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., introduced an amendment supporting border security and immigration enforcement. It did not pass.

-Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, introduced an amendment to support making the 2017 tax cuts permanent. It did not pass.

-Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., introduced an amendment to oppose federal carbon taxes. It did not pass.

-Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., introduced an amendment that also supported the remain in Mexico policy, called the Migrant Protection Protocols. It did not pass.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., introduced an amendment to strip away three GOP-sponsored amendments that had passed earlier in the night with bipartisan majorities. Those amendments opposed stimulus checks for illegal aliens, opposed Biden's decision to cancel the Keystone XL Pipeline and supported fracking. Harris cast a tie-breaking vote in support of Schumer's amendment and it passed.

-McConnell, R-Ky., introduced an amendment to undo Schumer's amendment. It did not pass.

-The Senate was also split 50-50 on the final adoption of the resolution. Harris cast the tie-breaking vote and it passed

GOP wins

-Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., introduced an amendment supporting funding for restaurants and bars hurt by the pandemic. It passed 90-10. Republican Sens. Braun, Lee, Toomey, Cruz, Paul, Tuberville, Daines, Sasse, Lankford and Scott all voted against it.

-Rubio introduced an amendment opposing tax increases on small businesses during a pandemic. It passed 100-0.
Sen. Todd Young, R-Ind., introduced an amendment opposing stimulus checks for illegal immigrants. It passed 58-42. Democrat Sens. Hassan, Hickenlooper, Kelly, Manchin, Peters, Sinema, Stabenow, and Tester all voted for it. All of those Democrats, however, later reversed their position and voted for the Schumer amendment that stripped away the Young amendment. They then doubled-down on their reversal when they voted against the McConnell amendment.

-Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., introduced an amendment supporting funding for public schools in states hurt by Biden's ban on oil and gas leasing on public lands. It passed 98-2. GOP Sens. Lee and Paul voted against it.

-Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., introduced an amendment supporting proper care for babies who survive abortions. It passed 52-48. All Democrats but Sens. Casey and Manchin opposed it.

-Ernst introduced an amendment supporting the imprisonment of illegal immigrants charged with violent crimes. All Democrats but Manchin and Independent Sen. Angus King of Maine, who caucuses with Democrats, opposed it.

-Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, introduced an amendment supporting funding for medical providers, especially rural hospitals. It passed 99-1. Only GOP Sen. Lee opposed it.

-Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., introduced an amendment opposing fracking bans. It passed 57-43. Democrat Sens. Bennet, Casey, Heinrich, Hickenlooper, Lujan, Manchin and Tester all voted for it. They all reversed their positions later and voted for the Schumer amendment that stripped the Braun amendment from the resolution. They then doubled-down on their reversal when they voted against the McConnell amendment.

Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., introduced an amendment supporting leaving the U.S. Embassy in Israel in Jerusalem. It passed 97-3. Democrat Sens. Warren, Sanders and Carper opposed it.

-Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., introduced an amendment opposing the Biden administration's move to cancel the Keystone XL Pipeline. It passed 52-48. Democrat Sens. Manchin and Tester supported it. They both later reversed their positions and voted for the Schumer amendment that stripped the Daines amendment from the resolution. They then doubled-down on their reversal when they voted against the McConnell amendment.

-Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, introduced an amendment supporting funding for police. It passed 100-0.

-Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va., introduced an amendment supporting a Trump-era EPA rule on what constitutes Waters of the United States, which leaves out groundwater from the definition. It passed 51-49. Manchin voted with Republicans in favor of the amendment.

-Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., introduced an amendment supporting equal treatment of religious entities as compared to secular entities, and cutting federal funds from local governments that do not treat houses of worship equally to secular businesses. It passed 51-49. Manchin voted with Republicans in favor of the amendment.

-Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, introduced an amendment supporting the creation of special committees to address the solvency of federal trust funds including those for Social Security and Medicare. It passed 71-29. You can see which 29 Democrats voted against the amendment here.

-Lee introduced an amendment supporting the expansion of health savings accounts. It passed 53-47. Democrat Sens. Kelly, Sinema and Manchin voted with Republicans.

-Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska, introduced an amendment supporting the expansion of natural gas use in the U.S. It passed 51-49. Manchin voted with the Republicans.

Dem wins
-Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., introduced an amendment supporting targeted stimulus payments and opposing stimulus payments for "upper-income taxpayers." It passed 99-1. Paul opposed it.

-Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., introduced an amendment supporting a public vaccine awareness campaign. It passed 100-0.

-Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., introduced an amendment supporting domestic violence and child abuse interventions. It passed 100-0.

-Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, introduced an amendment opposing SALT cap repeal. It failed 51-49, with GOP Sen. Paul joining the Democrats.

-Paul introduced an amendment supporting a "penny plan" aimed at balancing the federal budget. It failed 29-71. All Democrats opposed the amendment. You can see the 29 Republicans who supported the Paul amendment -- and those who did not -- here.

-Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., introduced an amendment to deny Small Business Administration stimulus funds to anyone convicted of riot-related crimes. It failed 49-51. GOP Sen. Collins opposed it.

-Paul introduced an amendment opposing international infrastructure funding. It failed 8-92. GOP Sens. Blackburn, Lee, Scott of Florida, Braun, Lummis, Tuberville and Hagerty joined Paul in voting for the amendment.

-Cruz introduced an amendment opposing the increase in visas for international workers coming to the U.S. until the economy recovers to pre-pandemic levels. It failed 40-60. GOP Sens. Collins, Fisher, Graham, Murkowski, Paul, Sasse, Scott, Sullivan, Thune and Toomey voted against Cruz's amendment.

-Cruz introduced an amendment on exemptions to biofuel credit caps for refineries during the pandemic. It failed 26-74. Manchin and 24 Republicans voted with Cruz. Meanwhile, 25 Republicans and 49 Democrats voted against the amendment. You can see the full breakdown here.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Feb 05 15:34:59
so votes are happening & both sides getting some wins...

Rugian
Member Fri Feb 05 15:37:57
"Some wins" on a $2 trillion bill means jack shit.

At least you accurately describe the state of establishment politics though. Conservatives get some breadcrumbs which are grandly styled as "some wins;" meanwhile the Democrats walk away with virtually everything they want.

Rugian
Member Fri Feb 05 15:39:43
So much for unity.

Apparently unity means spending an hour humoring a few GOP Senators, and then pushing your entire bill through anyway without making one single change.

Wrath of Orion
Member Fri Feb 05 15:54:02
waaaaaaah, a butthurt Trump fluffer cultists. Cry me a river, shitbag.

Y2A
Member Fri Feb 05 16:03:26
rednecks gonna redneck

Rugian
Member Fri Feb 05 16:15:07
WoO

The "Trump cult" label was dumb even when Trump was in office. Now that he's out and gone, it's even more ridiculous.

While you're at it, why don't you also hit me with a "more bothsidesism" as a blanket excuse to dismiss any bad behavior from the left. I mean, as long as we're whipping out the hackneyed responses...

Wrath of Orion
Member Fri Feb 05 16:25:55
Nah, your posts and beliefs show you're just a fucking retarded cultist. It's pathetic and damaging to the US. You and the shitheads like you are basically cancer.

Rugian
Member Fri Feb 05 16:29:31
"your posts and beliefs show you're just a fucking retarded cultist"

[Citation needed]

I mean, let's be honest here. You've been throwing the same insults out at conservatives since the GWB years; Trump doesn't actually have anything to do with it.

superdude
Member Fri Feb 05 16:34:23
lol typical libtard response to criticizing a marathon of votes.

None of these votes had anything to do with Trump except continuing some of his policies that benefit American people.

Rugian
Member Fri Feb 05 16:40:06
Superdude

They can't move on from Trump. Take him away as a point of attack, and what are they left with, debating the substance of Democratic policies?

If I was in WoO's shoes, I'd be riding that Trump thing too. The irony is he needs Trump far greater than we ever did.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Feb 05 16:52:50
the cult is still strong (& your media sites embracing it, so it will only strengthen)

-the GQP did nothing to Marjorie as she is endorsed by Trump

-the Nebraska GQP wants to censure Ben Sasse for speaking ill of Trump

-the Oregon GQP declared the insurrection a false flag op to hurt Trump

-1/3rd of the GQP wanted to oust Liz Cheney from leadership just for voting against Trump (& would've been a lot more if a public vote)

Trump poisoned the minds of tens of millions of Americans w/ baseless lies against our elections leading to an insurrection (& that's just one portion of his totally indefensible shit) & the GQP finds criticizing him to be wrong... your cult/party is fucked up

superdud
Member Fri Feb 05 16:55:45
Cant move on from trump but trump spent his years obsessed with obama.

Talk like a cultist, walk like a cultist, definitely a cultist. You dumb stupid fucking pieces of bile.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Feb 05 17:11:12
...also in impeachment, you have R senators going on TV to beg Trump to stick w/ an unconstitutionality defense so they don't have to judge him on his actions (which are indefensible)... & also praying he doesn't testify as they know he'll say crazy shit

yet... can't speak/vote against him... nope, gotta just know he's a totally unfit piece of shit inside but keep totally silent about it

Wrath of Orion
Member Fri Feb 05 17:11:55
"You've been throwing the same insults out at conservatives since the GWB years"

I have never called conservatives cultists prior to this. Not all people that support/supported Trump are cultists, either. You, though, are a delusional cultist and are irredeemable.

Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ Fri Feb 19 16:31:10
Yeah I remember everybody hating Bush during his final years.

habebe
Member Fri Feb 19 17:55:45
"At least you accurately describe the state of establishment politics though. Conservatives get some breadcrumbs which are grandly styled as "some wins;" meanwhile the Democrats walk away with virtually everything they want."

Well, we lost. Its kind of expected.

Apparently Biden is already backing down on his campaign promises though, dropping the min. wage hike.

At least Trump actually tried to pass his promises....

Dukhat
Member Fri Feb 19 23:21:38
lol

The only thing Trump passed was his stupid tax cut for the super rich.

The wall was never built and democrats were willing to pay for it with some concessions for DACA. Trump's band of thieves told him no even though Trump has always expressed sympathy for DACA kids so he killed it and blamed Democrats for not building his dumbass wall.

And then there was the repeal of Obamacare which failed specatacularly.

And all the other dumb shit he failed to pass because he's a moron.

All talk, no real action.

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superdude Member	Fri Feb 05 15:19:37 The American people will not be fooled with some of these shenanigans. http://www...-issues-during-the-vote-a-rama -Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C. introduced an amendment supporting the reduction of federal money going to states where there's an investigation into underreported nursing home deaths. It did not pass. -Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., introduced an amendment opposing coronavirus relief funding for schools that don't reopen after teachers had a chance to get the coronavirus vaccine. It did not pass. -Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., introduced an amendment opposing sanctuary cities. It did not pass. -Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., introduced an amendment supporting former President Trump's remain in Mexico program. It did not pass. -Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., introduced an amendment supporting the continued construction of the border wall. It did not pass. -Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, introduced an amendment opposing the violation of free exercise of religion. It did not pass. Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., introduced an amendment opposing court-packing. It did not pass. -Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., introduced an amendment to oppose coronavirus stimulus payments for prisoners. It did not pass. -Lee introduced an amendment opposing the Biden administration's decision to limit oil and gas leasing on federal lands. It did not pass. -Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., introduced an amendment supporting border security and immigration enforcement. It did not pass. -Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, introduced an amendment to support making the 2017 tax cuts permanent. It did not pass. -Sen. John Hoeven, R-N.D., introduced an amendment to oppose federal carbon taxes. It did not pass. -Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., introduced an amendment that also supported the remain in Mexico policy, called the Migrant Protection Protocols. It did not pass. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., introduced an amendment to strip away three GOP-sponsored amendments that had passed earlier in the night with bipartisan majorities. Those amendments opposed stimulus checks for illegal aliens, opposed Biden's decision to cancel the Keystone XL Pipeline and supported fracking. Harris cast a tie-breaking vote in support of Schumer's amendment and it passed. -McConnell, R-Ky., introduced an amendment to undo Schumer's amendment. It did not pass. -The Senate was also split 50-50 on the final adoption of the resolution. Harris cast the tie-breaking vote and it passed GOP wins -Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., introduced an amendment supporting funding for restaurants and bars hurt by the pandemic. It passed 90-10. Republican Sens. Braun, Lee, Toomey, Cruz, Paul, Tuberville, Daines, Sasse, Lankford and Scott all voted against it. -Rubio introduced an amendment opposing tax increases on small businesses during a pandemic. It passed 100-0. Sen. Todd Young, R-Ind., introduced an amendment opposing stimulus checks for illegal immigrants. It passed 58-42. Democrat Sens. Hassan, Hickenlooper, Kelly, Manchin, Peters, Sinema, Stabenow, and Tester all voted for it. All of those Democrats, however, later reversed their position and voted for the Schumer amendment that stripped away the Young amendment. They then doubled-down on their reversal when they voted against the McConnell amendment. -Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., introduced an amendment supporting funding for public schools in states hurt by Biden's ban on oil and gas leasing on public lands. It passed 98-2. GOP Sens. Lee and Paul voted against it. -Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., introduced an amendment supporting proper care for babies who survive abortions. It passed 52-48. All Democrats but Sens. Casey and Manchin opposed it. -Ernst introduced an amendment supporting the imprisonment of illegal immigrants charged with violent crimes. All Democrats but Manchin and Independent Sen. Angus King of Maine, who caucuses with Democrats, opposed it. -Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, introduced an amendment supporting funding for medical providers, especially rural hospitals. It passed 99-1. Only GOP Sen. Lee opposed it. -Sen. Mike Braun, R-Ind., introduced an amendment opposing fracking bans. It passed 57-43. Democrat Sens. Bennet, Casey, Heinrich, Hickenlooper, Lujan, Manchin and Tester all voted for it. They all reversed their positions later and voted for the Schumer amendment that stripped the Braun amendment from the resolution. They then doubled-down on their reversal when they voted against the McConnell amendment. Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., introduced an amendment supporting leaving the U.S. Embassy in Israel in Jerusalem. It passed 97-3. Democrat Sens. Warren, Sanders and Carper opposed it. -Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., introduced an amendment opposing the Biden administration's move to cancel the Keystone XL Pipeline. It passed 52-48. Democrat Sens. Manchin and Tester supported it. They both later reversed their positions and voted for the Schumer amendment that stripped the Daines amendment from the resolution. They then doubled-down on their reversal when they voted against the McConnell amendment. -Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, introduced an amendment supporting funding for police. It passed 100-0. -Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va., introduced an amendment supporting a Trump-era EPA rule on what constitutes Waters of the United States, which leaves out groundwater from the definition. It passed 51-49. Manchin voted with Republicans in favor of the amendment. -Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., introduced an amendment supporting equal treatment of religious entities as compared to secular entities, and cutting federal funds from local governments that do not treat houses of worship equally to secular businesses. It passed 51-49. Manchin voted with Republicans in favor of the amendment. -Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, introduced an amendment supporting the creation of special committees to address the solvency of federal trust funds including those for Social Security and Medicare. It passed 71-29. You can see which 29 Democrats voted against the amendment here. -Lee introduced an amendment supporting the expansion of health savings accounts. It passed 53-47. Democrat Sens. Kelly, Sinema and Manchin voted with Republicans. -Sen. Dan Sullivan, R-Alaska, introduced an amendment supporting the expansion of natural gas use in the U.S. It passed 51-49. Manchin voted with the Republicans. Dem wins -Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., introduced an amendment supporting targeted stimulus payments and opposing stimulus payments for "upper-income taxpayers." It passed 99-1. Paul opposed it. -Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md., introduced an amendment supporting a public vaccine awareness campaign. It passed 100-0. -Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., introduced an amendment supporting domestic violence and child abuse interventions. It passed 100-0. -Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, introduced an amendment opposing SALT cap repeal. It failed 51-49, with GOP Sen. Paul joining the Democrats. -Paul introduced an amendment supporting a "penny plan" aimed at balancing the federal budget. It failed 29-71. All Democrats opposed the amendment. You can see the 29 Republicans who supported the Paul amendment -- and those who did not -- here. -Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., introduced an amendment to deny Small Business Administration stimulus funds to anyone convicted of riot-related crimes. It failed 49-51. GOP Sen. Collins opposed it. -Paul introduced an amendment opposing international infrastructure funding. It failed 8-92. GOP Sens. Blackburn, Lee, Scott of Florida, Braun, Lummis, Tuberville and Hagerty joined Paul in voting for the amendment. -Cruz introduced an amendment opposing the increase in visas for international workers coming to the U.S. until the economy recovers to pre-pandemic levels. It failed 40-60. GOP Sens. Collins, Fisher, Graham, Murkowski, Paul, Sasse, Scott, Sullivan, Thune and Toomey voted against Cruz's amendment. -Cruz introduced an amendment on exemptions to biofuel credit caps for refineries during the pandemic. It failed 26-74. Manchin and 24 Republicans voted with Cruz. Meanwhile, 25 Republicans and 49 Democrats voted against the amendment. You can see the full breakdown here.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Feb 05 15:34:59 so votes are happening & both sides getting some wins...
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 15:37:57 "Some wins" on a $2 trillion bill means jack shit. At least you accurately describe the state of establishment politics though. Conservatives get some breadcrumbs which are grandly styled as "some wins;" meanwhile the Democrats walk away with virtually everything they want.
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 15:39:43 So much for unity. Apparently unity means spending an hour humoring a few GOP Senators, and then pushing your entire bill through anyway without making one single change.
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Feb 05 15:54:02 waaaaaaah, a butthurt Trump fluffer cultists. Cry me a river, shitbag.
Y2A Member	Fri Feb 05 16:03:26 rednecks gonna redneck
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 16:15:07 WoO The "Trump cult" label was dumb even when Trump was in office. Now that he's out and gone, it's even more ridiculous. While you're at it, why don't you also hit me with a "more bothsidesism" as a blanket excuse to dismiss any bad behavior from the left. I mean, as long as we're whipping out the hackneyed responses...
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Feb 05 16:25:55 Nah, your posts and beliefs show you're just a fucking retarded cultist. It's pathetic and damaging to the US. You and the shitheads like you are basically cancer.
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 16:29:31 "your posts and beliefs show you're just a fucking retarded cultist" [Citation needed] I mean, let's be honest here. You've been throwing the same insults out at conservatives since the GWB years; Trump doesn't actually have anything to do with it.
superdude Member	Fri Feb 05 16:34:23 lol typical libtard response to criticizing a marathon of votes. None of these votes had anything to do with Trump except continuing some of his policies that benefit American people.
Rugian Member	Fri Feb 05 16:40:06 Superdude They can't move on from Trump. Take him away as a point of attack, and what are they left with, debating the substance of Democratic policies? If I was in WoO's shoes, I'd be riding that Trump thing too. The irony is he needs Trump far greater than we ever did.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Feb 05 16:52:50 the cult is still strong (& your media sites embracing it, so it will only strengthen) -the GQP did nothing to Marjorie as she is endorsed by Trump -the Nebraska GQP wants to censure Ben Sasse for speaking ill of Trump -the Oregon GQP declared the insurrection a false flag op to hurt Trump -1/3rd of the GQP wanted to oust Liz Cheney from leadership just for voting against Trump (& would've been a lot more if a public vote) Trump poisoned the minds of tens of millions of Americans w/ baseless lies against our elections leading to an insurrection (& that's just one portion of his totally indefensible shit) & the GQP finds criticizing him to be wrong... your cult/party is fucked up
superdud Member	Fri Feb 05 16:55:45 Cant move on from trump but trump spent his years obsessed with obama. Talk like a cultist, walk like a cultist, definitely a cultist. You dumb stupid fucking pieces of bile.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Feb 05 17:11:12 ...also in impeachment, you have R senators going on TV to beg Trump to stick w/ an unconstitutionality defense so they don't have to judge him on his actions (which are indefensible)... & also praying he doesn't testify as they know he'll say crazy shit yet... can't speak/vote against him... nope, gotta just know he's a totally unfit piece of shit inside but keep totally silent about it
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Feb 05 17:11:55 "You've been throwing the same insults out at conservatives since the GWB years" I have never called conservatives cultists prior to this. Not all people that support/supported Trump are cultists, either. You, though, are a delusional cultist and are irredeemable.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Feb 19 16:31:10 Yeah I remember everybody hating Bush during his final years.
habebe Member	Fri Feb 19 17:55:45 "At least you accurately describe the state of establishment politics though. Conservatives get some breadcrumbs which are grandly styled as "some wins;" meanwhile the Democrats walk away with virtually everything they want." Well, we lost. Its kind of expected. Apparently Biden is already backing down on his campaign promises though, dropping the min. wage hike. At least Trump actually tried to pass his promises....
Dukhat Member	Fri Feb 19 23:21:38 lol The only thing Trump passed was his stupid tax cut for the super rich. The wall was never built and democrats were willing to pay for it with some concessions for DACA. Trump's band of thieves told him no even though Trump has always expressed sympathy for DACA kids so he killed it and blamed Democrats for not building his dumbass wall. And then there was the repeal of Obamacare which failed specatacularly. And all the other dumb shit he failed to pass because he's a moron. All talk, no real action.
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