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obaminated
Member
Wed Feb 10 21:54:38
Gina carano fired from mandalorian. Well. Guess ill be canceling my disneyplus. Fucking faggot leftists.
Habebe
Member
Wed Feb 10 22:30:32
Just bootleg mando off TPB in protest.

#fuckdisney#Raise Walt from the grave
Y2A
Member
Wed Feb 10 22:35:11
http://twitter.com/the_protag91/status/1359716414525947905
kargen
Member
Wed Feb 10 22:53:34
Most the people replying to that tweet are on the wrong side of what cancel culture is.

People calling for Disney to fire Gina Carano are practicing cancel culture. People saying they will no longer subscribe to Disney+ not so much.

Habebe
Member
Wed Feb 10 22:57:16
Y2a, We get it, you hate white people.

http://www...ald-trump-voters-to-nazis/amp/

So, Pedro can tweet this, ans. That's ok....what exactly has Gina posted that was even nearly as bad as this but he stays on.
Habebe
Member
Wed Feb 10 22:57:48
Maybe
she will getbher own show on TrumpTV.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:13:35
lol, she said being a Republican today is like being a jew in the holocaust.

Republicans love being edgelords and then acting the victim.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:14:10
This is not someone being fired for some harmless casual racism we all say everyday and recant when caught.

The distinction is lost on you dummies.
The Children
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:14:47
who the fuck is gina. she the wrestler chick?

and why is amber golddigga ho still in aquaman.
Nekran
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:16:33
It's kind of funny that one equates republicans to nazis and the other equates them to jews during the holocaust.

I think it's stupid that she got fired over her opinions... I get the firing of Cas Anvar from The Expanse, that shit can not be tolerated. But if you have to fire everyone who has a stupid or unpopular opinion... that feels like a problem.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:22:51
"This is not someone being fired for some harmless casual racism we all say everyday and recant when caught."

Indeed. No proof of racism at all, AFAIK.

Stupid mask whining, making fun of pronoun listing, and some Godwin's - which has become exceedingly popular in the last four years.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:29:45
Solution is to not say controversial things. She doubled down like every edgelord too. Didn't even try to apologize.

It's not political, it's business. Something modern cuckservatives know nothing about since their leader is a conman.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:30:34
I don't even know what any of the dumbfuck things Forskin says means. Probably some of the blown up culture wars stuff literally nobody cares about other than right-wing lunatics that spend too much time online.
The Children
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:30:54
if she da wrestler chick, yes, she cant act for shit and her character is dumb as hell.

away with her.
Nekran
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:40:54
"Solution is to not say controversial things."

Alternatively we could also tolerate the fact that people have different opinions than our own though. And realise that that doesn't change anything about the charachter they play or the music they make or whatever it is they do.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Feb 11 01:53:08
People are pretty tolerant. She was being an edgelord and got canned. Free Market at work boys.
Nekran
Member
Thu Feb 11 02:02:11
The Free Market at work it is.

I definitely don't agree with calling people pretty tollerant though... I feel it's kind of worrying how so many people ask for the firing of other people purely based on their difference in political opinion. And how a lot of people flat out refuse to talk to people on "the other side". Or, apparently, even watch shows that have people in it of "the other side".
The Children
Member
Thu Feb 11 02:07:07
so mandalorian is now joel...

and spiderkid is now nathan...

who the fuck cast these roles. they dont even fit.

Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 02:27:13
"Solution is to not say controversial things."

Someone has never seen an Oscar or Emmy speech.

"Probably some of the blown up culture wars stuff literally nobody cares about other than right-wing lunatics that spend too much time online."

Why are you posting here if you're unaware of what she's being attacked for?

"People are pretty tolerant."

People not on Twitter are pretty tolerant. For some idiotic reason, corporate entities have decided to use Twitter as a barometer of public opinion, where Tumblr migrants are decidedly not tolerant. #FireGinaCarano trended because she added Beep/Bop/Boop to her profile.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Feb 11 02:47:13
"Dukhat
Member Thu Feb 11 01:29:45
Solution is to not say controversial things."

The "solution" is to throw people like you into the sun. The only thing a tolerant person can not accept, is this blood thirsty brand of intolerance. It is a non sequitur, the "anti matter" to a tolerant society.
Paramount
Member
Thu Feb 11 04:22:33
@ginacarano

“Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children.

Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,”


--

sarah ✡︎
@leiaswinterfell

as a jewish person, this is fucking vile and unnecessary. gina carano needs to be held accountable. the oppression my people have faced because of our religion and ethnicity is NOT the same as political disagreements.


http://dea...oversial-statement-1234691898/


Gina Carano must have known that Jews controls the movie industry. But yet she provokes them and other people on social media. It is almost like SHE WANTED to be fired from the Mandalorian. Because if she really wanted to remain on her job she would have kept her mouth shut and not upset people. Being a Republican is not like being a Jew in Nazi Germany.


"the government first made their own neighbors hate them"

If anything, the Trump government made Conservatives hate ordinary liberal and left-leaning Americans. And so, being a Democrat in Trump's America was almost like being a Jew in Nazi Germany.
Renzo Marquez
Member
Thu Feb 11 05:09:09
Grug notice long nose tribe control pedowood. Grug no like.
jergul
large member
Thu Feb 11 07:01:56
Anyone doubt she was fired for contract violations?

Here is a tip. Read your fucking employment contract and abide by it. Or risk getting fired without severance pay.
Seb
Member
Thu Feb 11 07:30:27
Gosh, I wonder why a company founded and bearing the name of someone widely accused/thought to be an anti-Semite* would be very keen to distance themselves from someone who is skirting the edges of holocaust denial.

It must be because they are woke. Yeah. That's right.


*This is also contested but from a PR perspective, it's not that relevant.
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 07:43:55
Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views,”

Considering that NYT? Article about the guy who shunned his friendly neighbors because they supported Trump, this seems apt.
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 08:00:29
Seb, Calling half the US Nazis is is kosher, but claiming Republicans are treated like Jews is unfathomable....

Of course this has nothing to do with her perceived support pf Trump.

Hell we have had Democratic politicians say this

""Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

http://amp...ers-trump-officials/index.html
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 08:02:27
"The people are going to turn on them. They're going to protest. They're going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they're going to tell the President, 'No, I can't hang with you.'"
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 08:07:02
Let’s write laws that bar firing employees. I would like to see some of this outrage when let’s say Ford lays off a few thousands people.
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 08:46:56
Cr, No one is calling for laws to bar this.Thats entirely different from expressing disapproval at systemic targeting of political figures and speech.
Rugian
Member
Thu Feb 11 08:48:10
Habebe

CR is Canadian, hence he thinks that government must be the driving force behind everything.

Its your typical socialist mentality.
Y2A
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:12:54
"who the fuck is gina"
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:16:34
“ Cr, No one is calling for laws to bar this.”

Why not? Do you want this actress to keep her job?
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:17:38
“ CR is Canadian, hence he thinks that government must be the driving force behind everything. ”

I’m open to any non government involvement ideas of not firing people too, by all means
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:30:49
Cr, Because I'm a firm beleiver that people should be hired and fired on merit.

Once you start down this path of unfireable classes of people I think its a slippery slope and leads to lower performance.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:33:36
Merit? Carano was not a good actress. On acting merit, she would have never gotten the job. So, what merit was she hired by? Oh, right, public opinion. Her popularity and likability is what got her hired. Losing that loses her merit for the job.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:41:57
"Cr, Because I'm a firm beleiver that people should be hired and fired on merit."

are you some kind of a commie? When thousands are fired from GM/Ford at once, it is not based on merit, it is based on profits.
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:43:01
Quality of acting is clearly subjective.Jist because your jew doesn't mean Your opinion meams anymore.

As for popularity, she is still rather popular.Much more so than Amber heard who is universally disliked in public opinion.
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:45:15
Cr, You act as if there is a difference in this manner.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 09:51:57
there is no difference, we allow employers to fire people based solely on business bottom line. In fact we encourage it, duty to shareholders, etc. If you believe this state of affairs is acceptable, what are you complaining about here?
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:01:23
Cr, Im complaining a culture of systemic prejudice.Gina had atleast as many supporters as haters.Much less controversial than Amber Heard ( a spousal abuser) who disney has kept even after campaigns to get rid of her.

Trump, has Twitter's revenue faired better post Trump? Short term they had immediate drops.From which the stock price has recovered, I dont think long term its a benefit to get rid of one of if not the largest drawer of regular daily users.

Its prejudice.Im not calling to force them by law, but I can voice my displeasure all I want and bootleg their shit.

Yhe hospital took 7 hpurs longwr than they said discharging me, so the longer I was there the more shit I took, I still have stethescopes...haha
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:28:28
Carano has charisma on camera and her story is inspirational to little girls. Disney fired her for her political beliefs. That should piss everyone off.
hood
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:29:07
"Quality of acting is clearly subjective"

And she is objectively not good at acting.


"Jist because your jew doesn't mean Your opinion meams anymore"

Nobody brought this up except you. And, well, Carano herself. It's almost like hating jewish people isn't popular and could get you (rightly) unemployed.


"she is still rather popular"

Not among people who want to watch star wars media.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:33:09
"Im not calling to force them by law, but I can voice my displeasure "

sure, whining is not prohibited. Whine away. But accept the fact of Lucasfilm makes this decision, to fire their employee based on their bottom line. And since this is the way we do jobs termination in our society, and you dont want to change it, your whining is a waste of your time
Seb
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:37:13
Habebe:

Disney really really doesn't want to have a public conversation about whether or not it is anti-Semitic.

Who they choose to be work with is up to them.

That's the start and end of it.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:39:03
Cr, But the fact is there is about the same amount of evidence that Biden stole an election that she hurt profits.The Mandalorian was Disney plus's most popular show.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:41:17
Seb, And I will continue to bootleg their shit.It is up to them, however they have tondeal with the court of public opinion.Fact ia that Disney would rather work with spousal abusers than Trump fans, that may work out for them, it may not.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:41:26
"But the fact is there is about the same amount of evidence that Biden stole an election that she hurt profits."

Here you go again, are you going to question how Lucasfilm runs their business and their bottom line? I am not against such notions, lets make firing contingent on profts, would you be up for such laws?
Seb
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:45:36
Comparing the treatment of republicans to treatment of the Jews by the Nazis is offensive to Jews because it minimises what actually happened to the Jews during the Holocaust - and unfortunately there is a movement that seeks to minimise the Holocaust because they hate Jews.

Comparing republicans to NAZIs may or may not be hyperbolic. Certainly it's clear that there are fascists aligned with trump, who he has courted, and the republicans chose trump.

The quickest way for the republicans to sort this problem would be to distance themselves from the actual fascists in the way Disney is of slightly silly actress/wrestlers/models who post content that (intentionally or not) become indistinguishable from anti-Semitic tropes.

Then they should be able to say that comparing republicans to Nazis is distasteful and disrespectful to the victims of Nazism.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:46:42
"skirting the edges of holocaust denial."

Are European laws so draconian that bad comparisons to Jews to invoke victimhood is called denialism now?

""she is still rather popular"

Not among people who want to watch star wars media."

I'm sure you have some data outside of Twitter trends to back this.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:50:07
Hood, She didn't say anything negative about Jews.If anything she tried to sympathize with them.

When US politicians call for stalking Trump supporters in public ans shunning them, there is clearly a similarity to Nazi Germany.

With her in it Man do was #1.So how did she hirt the bottom line?
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:51:36
And as to whining, that's all we do on this forum.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:51:55
"So how did she hirt the bottom line?"

I say congress subpoenas all Lucasfilm corporate records and examines their profits. If Congresspeople think Lucasfilm can do better, they should be forced to hire her back.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:53:05
"And as to whining, that's all we do on this forum."

most of us also like to present some solutions, not just whining. Useless leaches only whine
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:56:16
cr, What solutions devised in these forums have ever made a major difference in the world?

Whining is what supposedly got her fired.

I see no one has orovided any evidence that her being on Disney's number one show hurt their bottom line.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 10:56:30
"most of us also like to present some solutions"

With strawmen about how companies shouldn't be allowed to hire and fire people?
hood
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:00:50
"I'm sure you have some data outside of Twitter trends to back this."

As much data as hot rod 2 has.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:01:00
"I see no one has orovided any evidence that her being on Disney's number one show hurt their bottom line."

Even if they are completely lying and this firing will massively hurt Lucasfilm bottom line, then what? Would you like to prevent such situations from happening?


CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:04:01
"With strawmen about how companies shouldn't be allowed to hire and fire people?"

how is that a stawman. I say there is no solution, because there is nothing to solve. Business fire people all the time. But dumbasses keep on insisting this particular firing is a problem.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:10:58
I actually liked her on mandalorian, too bad they fired her. She administered some great ass kicking
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:17:57
cr, "Here you go again, are you going to question how Lucasfilm runs their business and their bottom line?"

"But accept the fact of Lucasfilm makes this decision, to fire their employee based on their bottom line. "

Im merely arguing that the bottom lime jas little to nothing to do with it.Perhaps garnering political favor.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:21:42
"Im merely arguing that the bottom lime jas little to nothing to do with it"

I'm sure Disney shareholders will be up in arms over this.
Mexicantardnado
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:24:12
"Gina carano fired from mandalorian. Well. Guess ill be canceling my disneyplus. Fucking faggot leftists."

That's it retard? The crowning moment that is causing you to cancel a streaming channel because your inability to get off from an actress who 1) not good looking and 2) not a that good of an actress.

And yet you want to criticize other posters tastes in females.

Fucking retard.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:26:59
Cr, Then what? I will steal in protest and mabey post a few #Istandwithgina, and whine.

Its a shame that the US left preaches that they support strong women and want strong women in films and such and here is a case that fit the story well, she was an independant self made female who cpuld stand her ground and was a good role model for young girls and attack her for supporting Trump.

Just like Justice Thomas said, the left only supports monoroties and women who voice opinions they want, not in general.

Remember how Biden went after him in the anita hearings?

Mexicantardnado
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:29:02
Everytime I read a post by the spirit of of hot rod. I am reminded of... "english motherfucker, do you speak it!?"

I am not sure if he is using the keypad texting because he can afford a smartphone, or if he is just a terrible typist, but god damn.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:29:44
cr, Disney stock has dropped today, but that could be for a 100 reasons, IDK.

But you were arguing that its a fact that they did this for thwir bottom line, arguing that there is no evidence to support that.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:32:42
http://www...&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=J10CrSXYtT-0FM

She looks prerry good there.She IMO wasnt a great actor, but mpst Star Wars actors are not.Bill Birr was great though
Mexicantardnado
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:33:08
It's called capitalism, spirit of hot rod. And they had someone that may hurt, as they view, their product, so they fired them. It's called being proactive. And it wasn't only because they had their claim for trump. There was a bit of other proclamations that did her in.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:35:03
I'm arguing that Disney doesn't need any evidence of anything, to fire her. Same as every other employer. And if we are not willing to change anything at all about this status quo, we shouldn't expect any changes in outcomes
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:38:48
I will also listen to the babylonbee interview today. It's some podcast she is going on.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:41:53
cr, In legal terms you are right. The court of public opinion, we will see.

Joe Rogans manager also managed Carlos Mencia and because of their dispute they dripped Joe Rogan....in the long term they are probably kicking themselves considering he just signed a 100 million dollar deal for one of the most popular podcasts in the world.While Mencia hasnt done shit in years.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:48:37
"Business fire people all the time. But dumbasses keep on insisting this particular firing is a problem."

Yes. People frequently decry firings of people who voice innocuous political opinions or bad Nazi comparisons when they open their feed and see it full of political opinions and bad Nazi comparisons.

Arguing the strawman that people are saying firms shouldn't be legally allowed to fire people for bad PR is Boomer-tier.

I understand that it can be difficult to differentiate between general whining, and calling for sweeping legislation, because the loudest typically don't make that distinction themselves.
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:51:53
Left wingers fire women for having an opinion?

Misogyny!!!!! Racism!!!!
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:52:32
^Especially when they choose the spousal abuse over the abused even against campaigns for Depp and against Heard.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 11:57:58
Who needs to differentiate anything? Why shouldn't we legislate something that we want? If firings of people is a big problem, I mean? I'll settle for any other method of solving this problem,if it exists, no need to legislate if you have anything else. Otherwise, what conclusion can one arrive to, when seeing tards complaining about this huge outrage, while also not wanting to actually change anything? It seems like the outrage itself is the goal
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 12:02:03
People are allegedly cancelling their subscriptions.

Not every alleged problem must be solved via legislation.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 12:06:06
CR, No need to legislate.

Im sure she will find success elsewhere.And people will follow.

Just like Joe Rogan, no need to force by law his manager to keep him.

If enough public opinion goes against this, then in the future hopefully we wont habe these political hits.

Surprisingly Obama was the voice of reason on this issue.
Rugian
Member
Thu Feb 11 12:08:09
Gina was fired because she didn't do her Nazi apparently correctly, she should have done it like this guy instead:

"The Mandalorian actor Pedro Pascal took to Instagram to compare supporters of President Donald Trump to the Confederate States of America as well as Nazis.

Pascal posted a meme to his Instagram, which he has now deleted.

The meme reads “Losers in 1865” next to the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.

It then reads, “Losers in 1945” next to the flag of Nazi Germany, officially called the flag of the German Reich.

Finally it reads, “Losers in 2020” next to a Make America Great Again hat."
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 12:17:16
Now im open to looking into is Disney too big for comfort after buying FOX,Star Wars, Marvel etc.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Feb 11 12:17:32
“ People are allegedly cancelling their subscriptions.

Not every alleged problem must be solved via legislation.”


I agree and that is what I have been saying in this thread.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 12:37:01
Im not sure exactly what the Babylon bee is, I found a satirical article about this there...

From what Ingather its a satirical Christian site....Ill check out the podcast though with Gina, she would be a great fit for Joe Rogan.


On a similar note, anyone else notice that Tulsa is hitting all the Right wing or neutral press?

I say neutral mainly fornthe JRE even though he is a self described Bernie Liberal, politically he seems rather moderate and has political figures from all over the spectrum come on.
obaminated
Member
Thu Feb 11 13:01:18
Disney is too big to fail. Unfortunately. I canceled my subscription but Disney owns so much. I mean. They even got her agent and management team to drop her. Fucking hell. They are the empire.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 13:19:49
Disney was saved by Steve jobs. They havnt had a self made hit since the lion king era.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 13:39:00
Btw, This was not offensive to Jews, it was offensive to woke safe spacers.
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Feb 11 14:23:33
what's offensive is "pedro pascal he/him" pretending his dumbass activities on twitter is like all the millions of russians etc who literally died fighting nazis

stolen valor.. stolen righteousness

now that's offensive

not even mentioning that nazis wasn't bad because they didn't want to let in lots of third worlders who is treated so well that they break laws to break into country illegally..
hood
Member
Thu Feb 11 14:32:09
"Now im open to looking into is Disney too big for comfort after buying FOX,Star Wars, Marvel etc."

Absolutely. Break them apart. But they did nothing wrong in firing someone for failing to live up to being well liked and popular.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Feb 11 14:37:46
Well, they place inordinate attention on a vocal minority, like other major corporations.

And they conveniently ignore when her co-star made Nazi comparisons.
habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 15:37:43
Hood, Legally speaking we agree.Legally they did nothing wrong.

Its my personal opinion* that its a fucked up thing to do.Especially

As to breaking them up, that's not related to this specific issue to clarify.

Disney is not so big that they hold the fate of an actors career in their hands.Im sure Gina will fimd other work easily....crowder offered her a job already.

Of you type in Gina Carrano on YT the pitpouring of support is evident.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Feb 11 23:45:57
Trumpism is here to stay. Acting victimized after being a troll for ages and the masses of mediocre angry white men will worship you like a god.
Habebe
Member
Thu Feb 11 23:47:35
Beep bop boop


Oh the horror!
Dukhat
Member
Fri Feb 12 00:36:40
It's so easy to gaslight you people. There are a literall billion more important things to worry about than what happens to some washed up wrestler.
jergul
large member
Fri Feb 12 00:52:12
Lucasfilms fired her for contract violations.
Paramount
Member
Fri Feb 12 03:04:15
I can't find any confirmation on that from a reliable source. Only some anonymous profiles on forums saying that she violated Disney's morality contract.

Wiki says she was dropped by UTA now also.
jergul
large member
Fri Feb 12 03:08:59
She did not work for Disney, though Disney does own Lucasfilms.
Habebe
Member
Fri Feb 12 06:19:09
Beep bop boop and relating Republicans being hunted down in the streets and attacked to early Nazi Germany is fireable.

Jack Morrisey "#magakids should be thrown into the woodchipper hatsfirst"

That's cool. I mean, its not like he was proposing child murder or anything....
Forwyn
Member
Fri Feb 12 10:51:40
The only thing unique that she really did on social media was the "Beep bop boop" shit, after months of being harassed by extremist trannies demanding she list her pronouns.

The bad Godwin's are common, even Pedro has done it.

The false indignation isn't new. GWB spent years being called Hitler, and then when he called Obama's nomination a Chamberlain act of appeasement, the sky was falling.
Seb
Member
Fri Feb 12 12:26:42
Comparing someone hyperbolically to the Nazi's is not equivalent to comparing someone hyperbolically to the Jews.

In the latter case, this invariably implies that the Jews were merely being subject to some mild form of discrimination rather than systematic annihilation.

And this is a problem because there are organisations that already do repeatedly try to downplay the holocaust as a form of anti-semitism. So when you do compare yourself or your allies to the victims of the holocaust, it is far more distasteful than accidentally confirming Godwin's law and/or may also be mistaken for an anti-semitic dogwhistle.


Forwyn
Member
Fri Feb 12 12:34:00
lol no. By analogizing herself to pre-Holocaust Jews, she's analogizing the other side to Nazis.

It's exactly the same thing.

She didn't say the left is gassing people. She said they're drumming up hate against their political opposition, in her mind, a precursor to hate crimes.

You can roll your eyes at the comparison, but it's not inherently more offensive, and conflating her with Holocaust deniers because she's right-wing doesn't make it so.
Rugian
Member
Fri Feb 12 12:35:32
Seb

To use your own words:

"Comparing someone hyperbolically to the Jews is not equivalent to comparing someone hyperbolically to the Nazis.

In the latter case, this invariably implies that the Nazis merely advocated for border control and lower taxes rather than the systemic annhiliation of millions of people."

In short, you're being ridiculous.
"
Forwyn
Member
Fri Feb 12 12:42:59
Yeah, this is saying that Pedro showing caged South Americans right below caged Jews isn't comparing the victimization; it's ONLY a Nazi comparison of the administration.

Ludicrous.

But that's just a doubling down of the notion that the left has a monopoly on Godwin's, right-wingers can't do it, because it's anti-Semitic, because someone somewhere who participates in Holocause denial might agree with her on border control and mask mandates. lol
Y2A
Member
Fri Feb 12 12:48:56
"who the fuck is gina"
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