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Dukhat
Member
Sun Feb 28 23:40:12
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”

February 26: “We have the best prepared people, the best people in the world. Congress is willing to give us much more than we’re even asking for. That’s nice for a change.”

February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

February 28: “This is their new hoax. But we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We have 15 people in this massive country and because of the fact that we went early. We went early, we could have had a lot more than that. We’re doing great.

March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6: Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 7: “We’ll hold tremendous rallies...I’m not concerned at all.”

March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

March 9: “This blindsided the world.”

March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”

March 11: “Vanity Fair Magazine, which will soon be out of business, and their third rate Fake reporters, who make up sources which don’t exist, wrote another phony & boring hit piece. The facts are just the opposite. Our team is doing a great job with CoronaVirus!”

March 12: “Sleepy Joe Biden was in charge of the H1N1 Swine Flu epidemic which killed thousands of people.”

March 13: “I am officially declaring a National Emergency. Two very big words.”

March 16: "No one could have seen this coming a month ago."

***

Thank god president moron is gone.
Renzo Marquez
Member
Mon Mar 01 06:17:02
Now do Fauci, WHO, and the corporate press.
Rugian
Member
Mon Mar 01 08:15:56
But also to say to everyone: we should come to Chinatown. Precautions have been taken by our city. We know that there is concern surrounding tourism, traveling all throughout the world, but we think it’s very safe to be in Chinatown and hope that others will come.

It’s lovely here. The food is delicious, the shops are prospering, the parade was great. Walking tours continue. Please come and visit and enjoy Chinatown."

-Nancy Pelosi, February 24, 2020


"Since I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives + get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here’s the first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see “The Traitor” @FilmLinc. If “The Wire” was a true story + set in Italy, it would be this film."

-Bill de Blasio, March 2, 2020
Rugian
Member
Mon Mar 01 08:25:55
FLASHBACK MARCH 2020: Fauci Says "There's No Reason To Be Walking Around With A Mask"

http://www...alking_around_with_a_mask.html
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Mar 01 13:58:17
The incompetence is staggering throughout the entire political spectrum and the entire medical industry. Perhaps if the cdc and who were combatting diseases instead of combatting racism, this could have been stopped?

Sure, trump gets a lower F than most other pols, and fauci is closer to a D- than the utter retards at the CDC and WHO... but they all failed.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 01 17:30:14
everyone but Trump was able to learn as things progressed

Trump stuck w/ just making shit up the entire time (& sidelining any experts who disagreed w/ his made up shit)
Dukhat
Member
Mon Mar 01 21:00:29
The decision to advertise not using masks was because Trump ignored the whole thing and didn't ramp PPE at all. My mom works at a hospital and the face masks were being locked up with the controlled substances because people were taking them all ... and this was a hospital alone.

So Fauci was forced to tell people not to wear masks in order for healthcare workers to get them.

And only months later when production had ramped up enough (so much that Trump's cronies couldn't just intercept them and resell them for a higher price) did the CDC change its guidelines.

It did hurt trust, but ultimately everything was due to Trump being a fucking idiot.
kargen
Member
Mon Mar 01 21:35:23
"The decision to advertise not using masks was because Trump ignored the whole thing and didn't ramp PPE at all."

There was nothing to ramp. Even before Covid hit there was a shortage of masks, gowns and other things in hospitals because China wasn't producing them up to code. Elective procedures were already being put on hold because of the shortage.
Forwyn
Member
Mon Mar 01 22:30:50
"So Fauci was forced to tell people not to wear masks in order for healthcare workers to get them."

Yeah. Noble, just like changing the definition of herd immunity to accomplish vaccination metrics.

Except it tanks trust.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Mar 01 23:00:37
There was obviously time to ramp. Not everything is made in China. The gap was eventually met and not just because China had less of a need and started outputting.

America can produce everythign China does. Just takes time to retool and reproduce everything. Time Trump wasted.

As for Fauci, he just does the best he can dancing around Trump's stupidity. You could see it all the time during the press conferences. Fauci isn't infallible.

The Pandemic Response Team Trump disbanded the year before would've been way better at doing the same job, but he did the best he could.

At the end of the day, the vast majority of the blame goes to Trump.
kargen
Member
Tue Mar 02 00:21:00
They could ramp all they wanted and it would have done nothing. By late February there was a world wide shortage. Months earlier there was a shortage in the US because of the China debacle. When there is a shortage and then demand vastly increases what happens in your world?
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Mar 02 00:29:25
if everyone had joined mass demonstrations with no social distancing.. over george floyd giving himself a fatal overdose of fentanyl.. while looting nikes from shoe stores and vandalizing other businesses.. then covid could have been eliminated by now

because there's no evidence mass gatherings under those circumstances spreads the disease
habebe
Member
Tue Mar 02 00:51:02
wwd, Its funny you bring that up, because there is a lack of evidence actually.

Clearly such events could lead to harm. Especially with the dozens of Covid testing sites destroyed by BLM.

But to boot, In many locales medical staff were forbidden to ask if the patients had in fact attended a rally for racial justice giving us an less clear set of data.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Mar 02 01:05:38
lol, cuckservatives blaming BLM rallies. Trump rallies were far more deadly and proven to be superspreader events with most people not wearing masks.

BLM were almost all outside and most people were wearing masks.
habebe
Member
Tue Mar 02 01:12:20
Dukhat, Common sense says that

1. These rallies had massive gatherings for extended periods pf time.

1a- Plenty of inside man hours through out such an event.

2a- Even the people who wore masks didnt wear them the entire time, nor properly in most cases all in extremley tight quarters.

To think these were not super spreader events just seems absurd.
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Mar 02 01:16:03
both usa and canadian cases were dwindling towards nothingness when george floyd protests start..

canadian cases continued to fall to negligible levels in following hot weather months [and for that matter cases then were also negligible in britain france italy spain and germany].. meanwhile usa was peculiar in having a summer surge in cases

i'd say that's pretty good evidence that a is a.. 2 + 2 equals 4.. and that huge fucking gatherings during pandemic with no social distancing helps spread the goddamn disease
habebe
Member
Tue Mar 02 01:25:42
http://www...ontract-tracers-134316096.html

But then you read all these other articles claiming "We cant trace any infections to a BLM event"

When they are encouraged and told not to have tracers ask.

Especially NY, who has already been shown to have hidden covid deaths for political reasons.
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Mar 02 01:58:40
libtard stupidity is amazing

liberals teach that police knee to back of neck far from airway causes heart and lungs to shut down simultaneously.. ignoring autopsy showing overdose levels of fentanyl.. or floyd already complaining he can't breathe before the knee was on his neck nowhere near his airway

so 20 million libtards mass march in summer protest of police during pandemic [when liberals had just been preaching that anyone visiting empty beach was likely to kill their own grandmother].. setting records for looting and vandalizing damage at same time

summer surge in covid cases unsurprisingly happens.. while america also predictably has record high yty increase in homicides [when ferguson effect was already well known and established]

and when the dust settles 81% of blacks say they need more police because even libtards secretly know the overwhelming problem with homicides is out of control [and very disproportionately black] civilian criminals..

[we can tack onto this liberals getting upset at notre dame fans storming field at clemson game during pandemic.. then praising themselves for partying together in streets after biden is declared election winner]

[also a nice touch is drawing floyd with angel wings and naming things after him like he is innocent martyr for good cause.. when his dumbass record includes breaking into hispanic household and holding gun at woman before leaving accomplice to pistol whip her while floyd himself ransacks home]
Dukhat
Member
Tue Mar 02 03:32:28
It's amazing how stupid you become when you immerse yourself in fake news.

Your retarded spiel about Floyd doesn't matter. He was clearly not a threat and begging for his life. They should have loosened up. To watch that video and still make the arugments you did imply that you are probably a racist clutching at straws.

As for your other stupid bullshit, the summer surge was studied by the CDC and other health agencies.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/young-people-fueled-summer-covid-surge-across-u-s-had-little-impact-in-northeast-cdc/2660958/

The CDC looked at nearly 800 hotspot counties in the U.S. from June 1 to July 31 to determine whether certain age groups were driving the summer surge that saw the nation's case totals soar

It found that in most regions, heightened positivity rates among people younger than 25 preceded the identification of hotspots -- and led to higher positivity rates among older, more vulnerable groups

The connection was less noticeable in NY, NJ and CT in this report, which studied the time period where the infection rate was incredibly low; it also covered the time the tri-state travel quarantine was issued.

There were huge protests in NY, NJ, and CT too, probably bigger than most cities because of their huge urban and black populations.

But thank you for your bullshit far-right take on the summer surge. We can flush it down the toilet like most of your comments.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Mar 02 03:33:21
for clarity:

http://www...pact-in-northeast-cdc/2660958/

"The CDC looked at nearly 800 hotspot counties in the U.S. from June 1 to July 31 to determine whether certain age groups were driving the summer surge that saw the nation's case totals soar

"It found that in most regions, heightened positivity rates among people younger than 25 preceded the identification of hotspots -- and led to higher positivity rates among older, more vulnerable groups

"The connection was less noticeable in NY, NJ and CT in this report, which studied the time period where the infection rate was incredibly low; it also covered the time the tri-state travel quarantine was issued."

***

There were huge protests in NY, NJ, and CT too, probably bigger than most cities because of their huge urban and black populations.

But thank you for your bullshit far-right take on the summer surge. We can flush it down the toilet like most of your comments.
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Mar 02 06:46:30
look at the retard who thinks young people contracting covid first contradicts the hypothesis that marchers would contract covid first.. when it was mostly young people marching for floyd..

everyone from fauci to cdc to surgeon general warned of floyd protests spreading covid.. and its obvious that's exactly what happened considering we live in world where common sense and logic and science applies


also.. dukhat is a total moron psychopath who used to enjoy using n-word against blacks in almost every thread he entered because it was a good way to express his obvious psychopathy.. now moron thinks he can be even more effective psychopath by condemning others with accusations of racism
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 02 10:27:15
"Dukhat
Member Mon Mar 01 21:00:29
The decision to advertise not using masks was because Trump ignored the whole thing and didn't ramp PPE at all."

Wow cuckhat. You really are retarded.
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