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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 02 16:49:03
this is apparently the biggest story of the day (for the right)... segment after segment on Fox News about it & various personalities tweeting about it


the actual facts: the Dr Seuss people have decided to stop publishing these 6 books over racial insensitivity:
"And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street", "If I Ran the Zoo", "McElligot’s Pool", "On Beyond Zebra!", "Scrambled Eggs Super!" and "The Cat’s Quizzer"
(i googled how many books are there & answer was "At least 39")

& Dr Seuss was not mentioned in the 'Read Across America Day' proclamation released by Biden (unlike Obama & Trump versions)... everyone reads those proclamations right?


this is apparently devastating news (even more so than the Potato Head thing)... there are still Mr & Mrs Potato Heads, by the way, not that you Fox watchers would know...
obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 02 16:51:05
Lol, tw getting ahead of the story. But congrats! You were able to not mention trump! You are now finally shifting your obsession with trump towards obsessing with all things fox and the political right. Growing up lil guy.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 02 16:52:18
a timely sampling (this was just tweeted, came after my post):
http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1366883083341996034

(@obaminated, i did mention Trump)
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 02 18:18:08
Yay, finally we can deal with serious issues like getting Dr. suess off the streets and not silly stuff like financial releif.

Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 02 18:55:40
there was a 1.9T relief bill that passed the house without a single repub vote. so i don't know what you are talking about, it is the repubs that have their heads full with this "cancel culture" victimization nonsense.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 02 19:29:33
No check in my hand.

1.9 trillion seems like crazy expensive.

Give everyone under 50k 1500/month is like what 300 billion? For almost 2 trillion wr should be able to crank out that for half a year.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 00:07:13
'Cat in the Hat' and 'Green Eggs & Ham' are the top 2 best sellers on Amazon currently

good job, Faux News & the rest

sure, maybe some fear the cancel will expand to those (it won't)... but i'll bet >80% is misinformed fools
smart dude
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:21:13
Anyone have a link to the actual images? Naturally, despite covering the story, nobody is actually showing the images themselves.
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:29:06
Smart dude, I found an article on NPR from 2 years ago describing some of the images.

http://www...lems-why-cant-we-put-them-down
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:30:46
http://www...noECCYQAg#imgrc=dgdqHUTGQsMbHM


Here is the image from the mulberry street book.
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:36:23
http://www...&prmd=inv#imgrc=IbqWSvi2G3FVNM


Here is the one.from "If I ran the zoo"

It was posted to some womans Twitter.
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:41:36
I have an old children's book.with poems and short stories etc.

It was my Great Grandmothers on my mom's side.Its where I learned the older words "Eenie meenie minie no, catch a nigger by the toe"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 00:42:07
the chinese guy & the two africans (both linked by habebe) are all i've found as well

you'd think w/ Fox News' continual coverage it'd be easier to find... but they probably never even looked at any of the images
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:48:43
Yeah, I didn't look too hard for more, but I did look for others and that's all I could find.

Apparently Seuss also did a play with blackface and before he was famous did cartoon ads that mention "high quality niggers"
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 00:56:16
So when do we start trying to ban the Bible/Torah/Quran?

How about the DhammaPadda?

Im sure I could find plenty offensive things in all of them.

Shakespeare and Homer both have stories with very little ethnic diversity.

If you dont like it, dont read them.Its the beauty of freedom.

These stunts are modern day book burnings.
TJ
Member
Wed Mar 03 09:00:26
As of Tuesday afternoon, 13 of the top 20 best-selling books listed on Amazon in the U.S. were by Dr. Seuss.

Sounds like guns. Threatened the absent of things and sales of items rise. No better way to boost sales it seems. Black Friday gimmicks.
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 12:01:25
^Facts
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 03 12:09:28
I just checked foxnews.com and there's a grand total of one article on the front page that's devoted to this topic...and opinion article that's way down from the top.

Anyway, I haven't seen tw say that the move to cancel Dr Seuss is silly and unnecessary, so I'm going to assume he agrees with it. Shame, tw.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 12:36:04
trust me, Fox News (& the like) covered it (& quite poorly):
http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1366883083341996034

^that done in afternoon... i know Hannity also had a segment on it & probably every show in primetime

the only reason i made the thread was every time i went to Twitter some new thing from the right about it

---------

"I haven't seen tw say that the move to cancel Dr Seuss is silly and unnecessary"

i'm unaware of a move to cancel Dr Seuss
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 03 12:40:40
Maybe you missed the part about putting an end to publishing several of his books and omitting his name from the proclamation.

Oh wait, you addressed both in the OP. So you are aware.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 12:52:02
the people who put out the book deciding to stop publishing 6 of the 39+ books (ones i've never heard of) is not cancelling Dr Seuss

i wasn't even aware of "Read Across America Day" & Biden didn't 'remove' Seuss from the proclamation as some claim, he just doesn't name him in it (or anyone else)

& how many people read those proclamations?

is there a single person in the world who saw that proclamation, realized Seuss was mentioned in some prior years but not now & figured Biden was saying they should no longer read Dr Seuss?

but of course now, the cult believes that to be the case... or that Biden actively banning publication...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 12:54:10
one of the MANY Fox segments even showed how Obama praised Seuss in 2015 as if that meant a goddamn thing...


this type of nonsense it what led to a fucking moron becoming head of your party
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 03 13:04:05
Tw

Two things about the proclamation.

First, of course your average person doesn't read them. The target audience is not the average person.

The proclamation does however act as a signal to journalists and academics as to what is acceptable and what isn't. Those people DO pay attention to these things. Biden memory holing Seuss today means the press treats his negatively going forward and public schools drop his books.

The second is that its another sign of how pervasive cancel culture has become. Things that up until yesterday were considered acceptable, even admirable, can become verboten at a moment's notice.

Now, are you going to agree that Dr Seuss books don't need to be canceled to appease the PC gods, or is that too much to ask?
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 03 13:06:59
Second point was in regards to the 2015 Obama mention. It's relevant because it shows that just six years ago the past president felt no need to disappear Seuss.

Objectively speaking, what has changed so radically between 2015 and 2021 that caused Seuss to go from greatly beloved children's books author to total pariah?
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 13:07:12
TW, The problem with this is, you know as well as I do that won't be the last thing to get cancelled or called racist that, lets be honest is just silly.

Now afaik this is not coming from the DNC, but we know its not conservatives pushing this nonsense.

We have plenty of other nonsense to push.

But Biden has made sure to bomb Syria, impeach Trump and get Suess off the streets and still no check in my hand...kinda salty about that, I have plans to buy a lptnof drugs, but I still want slending cash, what's all those drugs worth if I can't work on my property, maybe I'll build a deck.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 13:17:26
well if any schools are looking to the proclamation on books to carry they are in trouble



"Things that up until yesterday were considered acceptable, even admirable, can become verboten at a moment's notice. "

that's the way it is... that chinese guy pictured was once yellow & labeled "a chinaman who eats with sticks" & that got changed to be less offensive... are you demanding the original color & text be put back?

the term "cancel culture" being tossed around in many ways... are you implying they were pressured to do this? or are you against even them deciding on their own?

i couldn't care less about those 6 books (they don't seem like 'classics' to me but i'm not a childrens book expert)... and how are new authors supposed to get read if everyone wants their children to read only the books they read (although, again... this isn't Dr Seuss being cancelled... just 6 of 39+ books no longer being published, & Biden had NOTHING to do with it)
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 13:22:58
"Deciding on their own"

Is usually pressure, whether indirect or direct.

In this particular case his daughter has come out against the pulling of these books.

The best way I can try to relate it to you would be how you feel about Texas having such a pronounced voice in US textbooks.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 13:23:19
"
The problem with this is, you know as well as I do that won't be the last thing to get cancelled or called racist
...
But Biden has made sure to bomb Syria, impeach Trump and get Suess off the streets and still no check in my hand
"

the problem with this is you think Biden has some involvement... the problem with this is the cult thinks Dr Seuss is banned & that Biden did it

& fucking morons who outrage tweet about getting Dr Seuss unbanned (as if he is) will draw the crowds instead of people talking about fixing healthcare or other 'boring' issues

just like one of Trumps big issues was 'allowing' people to say "Merry Christmas" again, -as if that was ever banned-... stores say "Happy Holidays" to be inclusive & welcoming to all customers... it's for their own benefit
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 13:35:02
also on the even more idiotic Mr Potato Head nonsense, Hasbro released a tweet very early in the 'scandal' saying the products would still be called Mr & Mrs, basically just a logo change, yet Fox (& that universe) kept up the bullshit
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 13:38:42
"Who knew Joe Biden was such a great book seller."
~ Ted Cruz
(w/ image of the Amazon top book sellers all being unaffected Seuss books)
http://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1367141072837763080

yep, Biden doing absolutely nothing caused that...

one of many tweets from Cruz on the topic... my guess is he's trying to emulate a certain fucking moron
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 13:47:04
He gave the speech, on Drm Seuss day, never mentioned him....

He may not have EO anything. However to something you had pinned on Trump time and time again was the "culture he promotes" ( paraphrased)

At the very least guilty by association.
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 13:48:36
Coincidentally this is probably the biggest difference between the Obama admin. and Bidens. Obama has been a strong anti-CC critic.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 13:51:35
there was no speech (that i'm aware of)

every holiday the president signs a proclamation for it (text) put on the white house website... it wasn't written by Biden & there is no smear of Dr Seuss

i don't see how not mentioning him is promoting anything, it's not like it lists other authors instead
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 13:54:39
"Coincidentally this is probably the biggest difference between the Obama admin. and Bidens. Obama has been a strong anti-CC critic"


i don't know Biden's view on "cancel culture" as there is NOTHING here that gives any insight
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 14:03:57
has anyone found any of the images from the 4 other books yet? w/ some brief searching, still can't find more... does no one own these books? :p

i did find this one that was mentioned above though (not from the books):
http://pbs...AcWgzD?format=jpg&name=900x900
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 14:07:02
Speech/proclamation

http://www...nual-read-across-america%3famp

"i don't know Biden's view on "cancel culture" as there is NOTHING here that gives any insight"

He doesn't talk much...Obama ooenly has spoke out against it numerous times actually.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 14:08:48
actually, much better version w/ context:

http://new...5/dr-seuss-racist-824x1024.jpg

monkey wrenches for your machinery
flies for your ointment
needles for your haystack
n's for your woodpile


wiki:
"Nigger in the woodpile" or "nigger in the fence" is a figure of speech originating in the United States meaning "some fact of considerable importance that is not disclosed—something suspicious or wrong"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 14:11:53
the proclamation is here:

http://www...-read-across-america-day-2021/

if you see an attack on Dr Seuss, something is wrong with you
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 14:15:55
He didn't mention Suess, that's the point.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 14:27:28
do you feel the narrative that Biden is trying to cancel Dr Seuss is accurate?

do you think the cult is being accurately informed on what has occurred? (the company has decided to stop publishing 6 books out of 39+ books, with -ZERO- influence by Biden)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 14:34:13
& the company made the decision last year, via their statement:
http://www...ent-from-dr-seuss-enterprises/

so Dr Seuss was completely banned on Trump's watch or something
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 14:44:29
I guess Bill Maher put it nicely.

http://youtu.be/SgrZAPUvKyA

Trump never pushed a narrative of white nationalism or neo Nazis, but he eas scorned to take the blame for it.
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 14:51:50
"do you feel the narrative that Biden is trying to cancel Dr Seuss is accurate?"

Not entirely.It lacks context that AFAIK he had no direct input on this situation.

However he does seem to support many in the CC and not call them out as Obama had.

For that I will take back my statement about Dr. Suess and the stimmy checks. But the rest is still valid.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 16:12:15
maybe when Trump retakes office tomorrow his MyPillow & Goya militias will force Dr Seuss Enterprises to publish the books again (& in original format)
habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 17:52:16
His daughter wants to.So not sure if you have to force them, who controls the estate?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 03 19:04:53
he didn't have a daughter, a stepdaughter said
“I think in this day and age it’s a wise decision”
(although she says stepfather not racist & hopes books will return someday)
http://nyp...bone-in-his-body-stepdaughter/
Habebe
Member
Wed Mar 03 22:05:14
I do, kinda drunk ( I dont drink much)

I thought I remembered a headline* that said step daughter didnt wanr him canceled....bit IDK.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 04 00:18:16
"
Could Biden try to ban my book next?

'One Vote Away' was the #1 Bestseller on Amazon a couple of months ago...maybe Joe could get it back there?

GET it HERE: <link>
"
~ Ted Cruz

when the fuck did Biden try to ban a book exactly?

there was some Denis Leary joke about Judge Wapner getting fed up w/ someone and telling (bailiff) Rusty to 'shoot that guy right in the head'... i can never locate it, but if you remember that bit, insert here for Cruz :p


just total fucking liars on the right, that's all you have
smart dude
Member
Thu Mar 04 00:52:25
The African dudes are racist AF, but I don't see anything too racist about the Chinese guy. What is racist about it? He eats with chopsticks (Chinese people eat with chopsticks...). I've heard it's because of the lines for eyes, but Suess does that for white people too, so I dunno.
smart dude
Member
Thu Mar 04 00:55:21
Cruz is a moron. Not only did Biden not ban the book, NOBODY BANNED IT. It's not banned at all. Millions of copies have been printed already. If you want one, go on eBay. Better yet, sell the copies you already own because I bet there's tons of idiot cuckservatives out there willing to spend money on these books (that they didn't care about 1 week ago).

The owners of the IP voluntarily decided to cease production. It's their property, it's their call. It's good for their brand, they think. It's called capitalism. Nobody was cancelled ffs.
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 04 13:34:02
Yeah, definitely hasnt been canceled.

http://www...ng-six-offensive-Dr-Seuss.html

Rugian
Member
Thu Mar 04 14:02:12
"EBay is barring users from reselling the six Dr. Seuss books that will no longer be printed due to their “racist” imagery — a move that comes after the books started going for hundreds of dollars on the auction site."

http://nyp...eled-dr-seuss-books-from-site/
Rugian
Member
Thu Mar 04 14:02:36
Oh MT beat me to it.
Rugian
Member
Thu Mar 04 14:09:19
Smart dude
"If you want one, go on eBay. "

Hahahahahahahaha
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 04 14:09:42
i'm skeptical...

also, people are idiots... the listings are in the hundreds of dollars

one auction w/ 4 of the books has bid at $1,326

part of the reason they stopped publishing these 6 books is probably as they weren't good sellers
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 04 16:19:19
"Trump took down Biden. Biden took down Dr Seuss and Mr Potato Head."
~ Mike Huckabee (fake christian)


to the cultists:
Biden had -zero- role in Dr Seuss or Mr Potato Head... (& Mr Potato Head is a fake outrage story entirely)

adjust your views accordingly... & change all your news sources... and/or die
Rugian
Member
Thu Mar 04 16:22:40
"Biden had -zero- role in Dr Suess"

Is this you acknowledging that Biden doesn't actually run his own administration? Welcome to the club, my newly redpilled friend!

Otherwise, he did have a role in it.
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 04 16:36:40
"Im okay with censoring words and banning books" - tw, sd, seb, woo (?) And who else?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 04 17:50:20
so Biden's Dept of Education failing to mention Dr Seuss in a proclamation no one cares about caused a ripple in time that then caused Dr Seuss Enterprises to decide last year to stop publishing 6 books because that future fail to mention by his Dept of Education means he hates all Dr Seuss books... thus noting that Obama praised Dr Seuss once was in fact relevant... as well as this guy rising on the floor of congress to note how he likes 3 Dr Seuss books (that are unaffected):
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1367329694341689344


& to the always misinformed person: no books are banned
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 04 21:12:39
lol, except the books are being banned and are being pushed to be banned from only one political side of the spectrum.

tell me tw, when has the side that bans speech and books been the good guys?
Y2A
Member
Thu Mar 04 21:37:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwCXYJmqeK0

"Cancel Culture" War is a Fight Against the Free Market
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Mar 04 21:46:58
"Sure we stoned a bunch of witches to death but the witch hunt was just the free will of the good folk of salem"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 04 21:48:28
a company deciding not to continue publishing a book does not make it banned (and Biden and his admin had zero point zero to do with it, no matter how many fucking liars say otherwise)

...and if the eBay thing is real, and they don’t reverse course, it still wouldn’t make the books banned

and your cult is trying to stamp out free speech by aggressive retaliation against all who speak ill of the king... resulting in absolutely crazy behavior by the likes of Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley, and many others
Forwyn
Member
Thu Mar 04 22:53:00
Lol. Political endorsements are exactly the same as media conglomerates, toymakers, social media giants, book publishers, online marketplaces, packaged foods companies, caffeinated beverages makers, essentially all of the Fortune 500 marching in lockstep to enforce an identical agenda.
Hrothgar
Member
Thu Mar 04 23:14:10
This canceling of old stuff is ridiculous. Warner Brothers did it best with their Loony Toons cartoons, instead of canceling them they put a notice at the beginning of them stating that the content was from a time when the evils of racism were the norm.

Just give old books that feel insensitive a intro page about the history of the why they were acceptable the way they are in decades past. Educate people, don't hide it away.
smart dude
Member
Thu Mar 04 23:59:32
""EBay is barring users from reselling the six Dr. Seuss books that will no longer be printed due to their “racist” imagery — a move that comes after the books started going for hundreds of dollars on the auction site.""

"Hahahahahahahaha"

Okay you retards, because everything has to be spelled out for you. EBay is NOT BANNING THE SALE OF THESE BOOKS. They are removing obviously fake/misleading listings of the books to prevent MORONS (like you) from getting scammed because they think they are suddenly valuable now. Ebay does this all the time for all sorts of products.

Reasonably priced listings of these books are still on their site. Just do a search.

How can these people even breathe?

earthpig
GTFO HOer
Fri Mar 05 00:14:29
Mulberry St, original publication v recent publication. Yellow skin and "boy" rather than "man."

http://www...AhVEmp4KHRewBrYQMygPegUIARDNAQ
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 05 00:21:06
i think "chinaman" was in the original
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvhzIFpXYAIOo3y.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 05 12:34:45
Hannity clip w/ Matt Gaetz (who seems to be embracing the Butt-head thing as he looks more & more like Butt-head every appearance... Beavis is Jim Jordan)

http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1367672236245717000

their words & chyron imply eBay has banned all Dr Seuss books

& Butt-head cites how even Michelle Obama read Dr Seuss (THAT. MEANS. NOTHING. AS. DR. SEUSS. HAS. NOT. BEEN. CANCELLED)

& also from Butt-head: "Mr. Potato Head now apparently has to go by Potato X. And the whole point of Mr. Potato Head is to move the parts around. He was America's first transgender doll. And even he got canceled."


...the only change to Mr Potato Head is the box will still say "Mr Potato Head" but with a logo that says "Potato Head" instead of "Mr Potato Head"... something Hasbro noted days ago when Fox first started obsessing about it

how the fuck is that 'cancelled'
The Children
Member
Sun Mar 07 02:26:03
cancel all whitey racist and statues.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 13 13:13:35
donate to Ted Cruz to save Dr Seuss:
http://pbs...VEAM_zgz?format=jpg&name=large
(& that's on his twitter so real)

fun fact: Democrats have done NOTHING AT ALL to Dr Seuss
Habebe
Member
Sat Mar 13 13:17:04
Tw, By that logic Trump did nothing against people wearing masks.
Habebe
Member
Sat Mar 13 13:17:38
But ok, Cruz is a slime ball.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 13 15:11:51
Trump actively discouraged masks & made it clear he didn't want to see people wearing them

Democrats (as a party) have done NOTHING to Dr Seuss, voting R's over D's has no relevance on Dr Seuss... (also why does he keep bringing up Green Eggs & Ham, which nothing was done to by anyone at all)
habebe
Member
Sat Mar 13 15:44:00
Its about setting an environment and promoting a culture.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 13 17:28:52
no it's about lying to the public... repeatedly suggesting Biden had something to do with it, & repeatedly implying it's a blanket ban on Dr Seuss (when it's no ban at all), including repeatedly citing 'Green Eggs & Ham' when NOTHING done to that book at all

& i don't mean just Ted Cruz, see the clip i posted at top (post #3)... total bullshit show after show
habebe
Member
Sat Mar 13 19:24:55
Biden pushes an sjw narrative in his admin., when asked serious questions about his appointees the answer was " yes we did hire a woman" ( paraphrased)

They passed no laws. Trump.passed no laws against wearing masks, but you could argue that he pushed a narrative they were not important.

He never said people shouldn't wear them. But you could argue he pushed a narative that they were not very useful.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 13 21:51:31
do you work hard at finding equivalence or does it somehow just come to you?


"He never said people shouldn't wear them"... actually he probably did... all his senior staff & allies knew not to wear them around him or when on TV speaking to him... how did they get that message?

In any case, he made it abundantly clear he was against them w/ heaps of examples... his staff managed to finally get him to be photographed in one by having him go to a military hospital for a photo op, & he still felt compelled to note he only wore the mask as he was at a hospital. When he held one of his no-precaution events at his golf club & the club at risk of being shutdown that's when he came up with his brilliant 'these are protests' claim, gleeful at finding a way to avoid public health rules... which he then continued to claim the remainder of his rallies, all just to avoid public safety measures (very presidential).

And as i've noted before... when he spotted Laura Ingraham wearing one he accused her of being 'politically correct'... recall HR's view of that term... one of the biggest insults you can give in the mind of a cultist.

There was no question he actively discouraged masks throughout. Whereas he should've actively -encouraged- masks. So he was worse than nothing (and on many aspects, not just that).


Compared to Biden... who has said literally nothing about Dr Seuss... & took no actions affecting Dr Seuss... & there's no reason as president that we should expect him to talk about Dr Seuss.


No, there is no equivalence, & there is no truth in all those faux news reports about Dr Seuss.

Deliberate deception... Trump's whole style... now being embraced more than ever.
kargen
Member
Sat Mar 13 21:58:39
At this point in his life I'm doubting President Biden could comprehend a Dr Seuss book. Watching how fast he has deteriorated mentally won't be long before he will be unable to read one.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 13 22:13:21
a drooling vegetable would have done better than Trump on the pandemic... prove otherwise
kargen
Member
Sat Mar 13 22:35:12
Well that is indeed a sad state of affairs as the current president is just coat tailing what was already in place. All his we will be doing this by such and such date was already on target if all he did was nothing at all.

Do you remember what day President Biden received his vaccine? Who was president when that happened?
habebe
Member
Sat Mar 13 23:10:36
I don't work hard at it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 13 23:24:07
"Do you remember what day President Biden received his vaccine?"

Jan 11, he did it for the camera (like a leader)

Do you remember what day President Trump received his vaccine? Which political party is most hesitant to get it? What accurate info did Trump ever give about the vaccines?

He repeatedly just made-up when it would be ready, he couldn't comprehend the trial process, he smeared the FDA & even the companies over it & he's done virtually nothing to encourage people take it. He also said the virus would go away without the vaccine, & only helped the virus spread w/ his no-precaution rallies & terrible example setting.

grade F performance... & a disastrous F... a worse-than-random-guessing F
Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 14 00:20:00
Pretty sure Dems/Libs are less likely to get the vaccine. No doubt spurred on by thwir most loyal constituents, black women.
Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 14 00:20:14
Pretty sure Dems/Libs are less likely to get the vaccine. No doubt spurred on by thwir most loyal constituents, black women.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 14 01:10:43
well according to polling it's white Republicans, aka Republicans, aka the cult
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Mar 14 01:32:00
I see Retard Rod 2.0 is pulling stuff out of his ass again without evidence. Oh wait, I'm sure his evidence is, "That's what I've heard around the neighborhood."
habebe
Member
Sun Mar 14 03:12:52
TW, It may be changing as hesitancy is decreasing. From what I remember before the big demographics to be hesitant rural ( Republican) blacks and women, several studies had 70-80% of the hesitant people were women.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 14 13:09:52
perhaps back when the total lying fraud was being gatekeeper of (mis)information

now it's the cult... the people who were led to believe it was a hoax, who were discouraged from taking any precautions (yet willing to guzzle hydroxychloroquine), and are now buying up all Dr Seuss books
Rugian
Member
Sun Mar 14 13:18:13
As a disclaimer polls are garbage and should not be trusted, but according to PBS/Marist/NPR:

"CVVACC1R. NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll National Tables March 3rd through March 8th, 2021

If a vaccine for the coronavirus is made available to you, will you choose to
be vaccinated or not? If you have already received the vaccine, please say
so.

Yes, will / Yes, already received / No / Unsure

Party Identification, Democrat: 58% / 29% / 11% / 2%

Party Identification, Republican: 32% / 21% / 41% / 3%

Party Identification, Independent: 44% / 19% / 34% / 3%

http://mar...Tables_202103091124.pdf#page=3
kargen
Member
Mon Mar 15 01:23:05
President Biden actually received his first shot in December.

But how can that be? According the the current administration they were given nothing from the previous administration and President Biden takes full credit for all that has been done.

He is as full of shit as you are. It is because former-president Trump asked why can't we do this quicker that Biden was able to get his shot.
habebe
Member
Mon Mar 15 01:40:07
Kargen, He hasnt mentioned the 1.6 trillion dollar sack of cash Trump and Mnuchin left his incoming administration.

Biden came into a sweet deal all in all.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 15 02:18:50
"It is because former-president Trump asked why can't we do this quicker that Biden was able to get his shot."

seriously?

Trump: "why can't we do this quicker?"
scientists: "omg, he's right! let's do it quicker!"


Trump's view was the virus was nothing to worry about, that the flu worse, that it wouldn't come here, & when it did come here that it would go away on its own (specifically saying without a vaccine), yet fucking morons think he & he alone came up with the idea of investing $10 billion (more than he said his 40 foot wall from coast to coast would cost) in creating a vaccine?

...and of course if he & he alone didn't think of that investment idea that there would be no vaccine for at least 5 years, but probably never at all (as he specifically & ridiculously stated)

-----

also what part of you thinks Trump had any idea what Mnuchin was doing?... when did he show any concern over any details on anything? and anticipating more aid being needed isn't all that shocking for Mnuchin to realize... (assuming he even did anything positive)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 15 02:26:07
also, tack on that idiotic notion that Biden is denying any vaccine development that kargen has to the heap of misinformation being put out by faux news

I -believe- the real story involved poor distribution plans (which Trump did never talk about, all he ever did was lie about when it would be approved and then seemed to magically think everyone would get a dose instantly) but I don’t really care to look it up as kargen never will learn and keep swallowing the bullshit
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 15 12:30:57
Fox News is still running Dr Seuss pieces... w/ video showing "Green Eggs & Ham" & "Oh the places you'll go" book covers & "Cat in the Hat" images & others (NONE of which affected)

http://youtu.be/1ToZS42fmM0?t=65

is it so hard to use proper material two weeks into this critical story? they have the bindings shown amongst heaps of books so -someone- has the right books

...also Mr Potato Head is completely fine... you can still get a brown plastic egg that says "Mr" on the packaging
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 15 18:31:21
i'll assume this is the next lying bullshit faux news will run with:

"
BREAKING: The Washington Post just RETRACTED their story on Trump’s phone call with Georgia’s Secretary of State.

WaPo admits that they LIED about the whole thing.

Left wing media is owned by the Democrat lie machine.

Retweet if you’re not even remotely surprised.
"
~ Madison Cawthorne (R-from who cares)... the piece of shit wheelchair guy


-WaPo did NOT retract the story, they issued a correction
-It was NOT about the call w/ the Sec of State that was widely reported (i don't even recall hearing about this one)
-They did NOT say they lied about the whole thing

The facts are they issued a correction about quotes that were given by a source about a call that we DIDN'T have audio for, so NOT the widely circulated one & now they have audio i guess & corrected the quotes. That call & others still completely inappropriate.


but i can see the sea of lies already forming on Twitter... not just Cawthorne... the piece of shit Posobiec guy also claiming this 'vindicates' Trump... NOPE
kargen
Member
Mon Mar 15 18:59:47
scientists: "omg, he's right! let's do it quicker!"

Cute how you think it is the scientists that make that decision.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 26 12:17:49
guess what Fox still talking about:
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1375464379269967872

^PA congressman suggesting the government is somehow the ones who 'banned' Seuss books...
& w/ a bill to solve it!

on his bill announcement page: "The GRINCH Act will prohibit taxpayer dollars from funding bureaucrats’ attempts to censor children’s literature and determine what our kids are permitted to read. We must not allow the left to wage further attacks on students’ First Amendment rights." (citing no examples)

thank god, that was such a huge problem

if you are still a registered R after the past 4 years, just kill go yourself & MAGA!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 26 12:19:24
oops... should say "citing no -real- examples"... he does mention Seuss... which. had. nothing. to. do. w/. government. action.
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