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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 16 18:59:11
A manhunt is underway for a man who appeared in surveillance footage outside one of two spas where shootings occurred in the Atlanta area in Cherokee County, Georgia. At least four people have died in two separate shootings. Police have not said whether the two shootings are related.

Police told Channel 2 Action News that all four victims were female and appeared to be Asian. Piedmont Road was shut down in both directions near Cheshire Bridge Road due to heavy police activity. The news station reported officers with guns were along the street outside the spas, and crime scene tape could be seen wrapping around both the Aromatherapy Spa and Gold Spa on the 1900 block of Piedmont Road.

“UPDATE: Atlanta police tell us a total of four Asian women were shot and killed. 3 at Gold Spa, one at Aromatherapy spa. Looking into whether or not this is tied to a similar incident in Cherokee county,” Janice Yu of Fox 5 Atlanta wrote on Twitter.

<cont'd>

http://hea...ootings-photo-suspect-georgia/
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:10:33
Now 7 dead
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:12:03
just went up to 8
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:12:10
Robert Aaron Long
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:13:56
captured

http://www...ay/OLE23RVIO5BE3ELWBZAA6GVSSA/
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:18:04
Shoot him.
obaminated
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:36:10
He looks like the definition of a mass shooter.
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 20:54:57
definitely gives off an angry incel vibe.
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 22:28:45
fashy haircut

http://twitter.com/SeidenWSBTV/status/1372017123694931975
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 22:30:11
From updated Heavy.com article

1. Long Is the Son of a Pastor & a Former Classmate Said ‘He Wouldn’t Even Cuss’

Long was described as a religious person by a former classmate at Sequoyah High. The 21-year-old graduated in 2017. His dad was a pastor, and Long seemed “innocent” and “nerdy,” the classmate told The Daily Beast.

“He was very innocent seeming and wouldn’t even cuss,” the classmate said. “He was sorta nerdy and didn’t seem violent from what I remember. He was a hunter and his father was a youth minister or pastor. He was big into religion. He was very innocent seeming and wouldn’t even cuss. He was sorta nerdy and didn’t seem violent from what I remember. He was a hunter and his father was a youth minister or pastor. He was big into religion.”
Y2A
Member
Tue Mar 16 23:04:46
http://www...tings-at-atlanta-spas?ref=home

A 2018 video on the Crabapple Facebook page features Long discussing his Christian journey toward baptism.

“As many of you may remember, when I was 8 years old I thought I was becoming a Christian, and got baptized during that time. And I remember a lot of the reason for that is a lot of my friends in my Sunday school class were doing that,” Long says in the clip.

“And after that time, there wasn’t any fruit from the root that is our salvation.”

He goes on to say that when he was in seventh grade he attended a youth group and a speaker was discussing the biblical story of the prodigal son.

“The son goes off and squanders all that he has and lives completely for himself and then, when he finds he’s wanting to eat pig food, he realized there’s something wrong and he goes back to his father and his father runs back to him and embraces him. And by the grace of God I was able to draw the connection there and realize this is a story between what happened with me and God. I ran away living completely for myself, and he still wants me, and so that’s when I was saved.”
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Tue Mar 16 23:29:51
Jesus Christ people are fucking stupid.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Mar 17 01:51:35
Jesus-Christ-people are indeed fucking stupid.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Mar 17 11:24:31
^true
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 17 11:36:19
Are you people suggesting that a guy with that beard wasn't drowning in prime 18 year old pussy?

Y2A
Member
Wed Mar 17 12:22:31
should have stuck to the edward snowden look

http://twitter.com/Opcux/status/1372222079756558339/photo/1
Jebbebiah Wilkins
Member
Wed Mar 17 12:30:46
Come on he just had a bay day

(Trigger warning: Rugian do not follow the link!)
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713
Paramount
Member
Wed Mar 17 12:35:32
The man suspected of killing eight people in three separate shootings at spas in the Atlanta area on Tuesday has allegedly admitted to the killings and blamed his "addiction to sex" as the motive, authorities said.

"Long told investigators that he blames the massage parlors for providing an outlet for his addiction to sex," the sheriff's office said in a statement on Wednesday.

He may have "frequented these places in the past," Cherokee County Sheriff Frank Reynolds said.

http://abc...pect-custody/story?id=76499529


^ So he was a sex addict and not an incel? He got too much sex and couldn’t handle it no more?
obaminated
Member
Wed Mar 17 12:37:19
sounds like a guy with mental health issues.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 17 12:43:03
things could get awkward for those 'spa's

although that one 'spa' has an 'open 24 hours' sign... so they're making it pretty obvious
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Mar 17 12:44:16
A case of, "it's the quiet ones you gotta watch".
chuck
Member
Wed Mar 17 13:20:23
> things could get awkward for those 'spa's

There are uncountably many such spas in Atlanta (and other big cities?). The section of Piedmont Rd mentioned here is pretty close to a company I used to work at. There are half a dozen obvious sex spas on that little stretch. Clearly not trying to hide it either, they're sharing the area with strip clubs galore which isn't really the clientele legit places are going for. In the AJC article on this you can even see a third such obvious "spa" right next to the two that were shot up.

Atlanta doesn't really seem to try to bust them up afaict. If they do, another tends to pop up overnight like mushrooms.

Has anybody checked in with Robert Kraft?
The Children
Member
Wed Mar 17 13:36:55
whitey fuck face incell.

whitey propaganda completely washed his brains into a mixer until he turned into a inscure ugly incell.
And this is the result.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 17 13:58:20
"Atlanta doesn't really seem to try to bust them up afaict"

well, i assume it's harder to just 'look the other way' if they get in the news as selling sex

...also any time i see mostly asians involved i assume sex trafficking (probably unfair :p)

obaminated
Member
Wed Mar 17 14:17:24
I dunno about asians being associated with sex work. But massage parlors definitely are.
Nekran
Member
Wed Mar 17 14:30:00
He wanted to be a good christian but couldn't resist the temptation of cheap prostitution I guess. And then of course blamed them and not himself.

Sounds like another case of religious fanaticism.
obaminated
Member
Wed Mar 17 14:36:45
Sounds like another case of *mental health issues*

Fixed that for you.
hood
Member
Wed Mar 17 14:38:42
you two are saying the same thing.
Paramount
Member
Wed Mar 17 16:14:13
Anti‐Asian Hate Crimes Surge 149%, while overall hate crime Drops 7% in 2020.

Anti-Asian hate crime in 16 of America’s largest cities increased 149% in 2020 according to an analysis of official preliminary police data by the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, with the first spike occurring in March and April amidst a rise in COVID cases and negative stereotyping of Asians relating to the pandemic.

http://www...ian%20Hate%202020%203.2.21.pdf
Y2A
Member
Wed Mar 17 16:39:28
http://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1372272816129736710

The Onion
@TheOnion
Atlanta Police Rule Out Mass Shooting As Cause Of Death After Suspect Says He Didn’t Shoot Anyone https://bit.ly/3cK27U8
Rugian
Member
Wed Mar 17 16:49:05
Paramount

Hate crime statistics are notoriously unreliable, since they are by their very nature subjective.

And even if the statistics were reliable, a 149% surge on 0 is still 0. 122 anti-Asian hate crimes in 16 cities with a combined population of 28,828,767? That's nothing!

If anything that shows just how tolerant the United States is as a country.
The Children
Member
Wed Mar 17 17:05:58
its just coz he havin a very bad day, nottin 2 see here. move along now folks.

...

damage controll gone wild.

Y2A
Member
Wed Mar 17 22:50:50
Same police chief that was rambling on about how this loon was just having a bad day.

http://twitter.com/RichPhelps/status/1372257212966440960

Rich Phelps
@RichPhelps
Hey Captain Jay Baker with Cherokee Country Sheriff's Office... this you?
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 18 00:40:07
And now the left is branding the sheriff a racist. I fucking hate the left and their tactics.

The shooter wasnt targeting asians but the left narrative is about how asians are targeted so they have to muddy the waters so they can turn this into a race crime.
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 18 00:41:02
But lets not talk about blacks targeting whites. That is never considered to be racially motivated.
The Children
Member
Thu Mar 18 02:05:34
them damage controllin whiteys r going overtime.

when u deliberately target asian spas and massages, u r targettin asian and its a hate crime.

he didnt went 2 mcdonalds, he didnt went 2 his local strip club, he went 2 asian business becoz its run by asians.

i culd give 2 shits about his porn addiction, just like his ulgy incell face. thats his problem and his culture, aka your culture promotes that shit. u practically invented porn, despite all these bukkake claims and weird japan shit u can keep accusin. in reality, no country on da planet started with porn magz like playboy and playmate and no country on da planet had a huge sex industry that resulted in thousands of porn websites.

ur culture glorified and made that shit happen. not da other way around.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 18 07:47:01
I tried to do a search for white people mass shootings and each time the shooter was still a white male including the huge shootings in Norway and the Las Vegas shooter.

The media is so biased against white people. Even narrowing my search to Fox News didn't bring up any articles of black people mass-shooting whites.

But how could Obaminated be wrong? He's always so well-read ...
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 18 08:11:45
Oh I found a recent example of minority on white violence.

http://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/m7cpe2

http://v.redd.it/wck9hdbo1on61

Chinese grandma beats the shit out of a white guy with a plank after he punched her #stopasianhate

Now that Obaminated has found a "fact" to support his narrative, he will return to being a dumbass that never learns
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 18 08:13:23
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/03/18/elderly-asian-woman-beats-up-man-attacking-her-in-san-francisco/

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — An elderly woman being attacked on Market St. in San Francisco Wednesday – the latest victim in a wave of attacks on Asians in the Bay Area – spoke to KPIX 5 about turning the tables on her assailant, leaving him with injuries that required a trip to the hospital.

From her senior retirement home in San Francisco, Xiao Zhen Xie candidly talked to KPIX 5 in an exclusive interview about the attack and her injuries, with her daughter Dong-Mei Li helping to translate.

“Very traumatized, very scared and this eye is still bleeding,” Li told KPIX 5. “The right eye still cannot see anything and still bleeding and we have something to absorb the bleeding.”

Surrounded by her family, the 76-year-old who has resided in San Francisco for 26 years said she was quite shaken up and that the attack was completely unprovoked. Her immediate instinct was to fight back.

***

MSM spreading lies again. Asian grandmas now are joining in the genocide of young white men.
Paramount
Member
Thu Mar 18 10:22:35
Anyone who attacks a 76 year old grandma should be keelhauled.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Mar 18 10:25:30
"tried to do a search for white people mass shootings and each time the shooter was still a white male including the huge shootings in Norway and the Las Vegas shooter."

So, in white majority countries, the criminals tend to be white?

AMAZING discovery bro. Blew my mind.
Rugian
Member
Thu Mar 18 10:42:34
TRUMP DID IT! lol

"Rep. Meng blames Trump for anti-Asian violence"

http://the...-trump-for-anti-asian-violence
Habebe
Member
Thu Mar 18 11:03:46
http://www...ark-racist-t-shirt/ar-BB1eIQUS

This is possibly the most absurd cancel culture situation.

Cop had said

"He was pretty much fed up and kind of at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did," Baker said of 21-year-old suspect Robert Aaron Long.

And apparently on FB there was a picture of him saying "covid 19, imported virus from CHY-NA"

Chy-na being an obvious Trump pronunciation reference.

How is any of that wrong?
Rugian
Member
Thu Mar 18 11:20:09
The media's coverage of this has been absolutely disgusting. They took a one-off incident where a loser incel killed a few people and warped it into a story of Asian Americans being targeted by a fictional wave of racist violence across the country.

Even worse, we're now saddled with a presidential administration that encourages that narrative. Anything and everything that happens in this country is due to racism.

Goddammit the media and Democrats are hellbent on fomenting division between the races.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Mar 18 11:24:10
The optics become the context.
Paramount
Member
Thu Mar 18 12:45:34
” He was pretty much fed up and kind of at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him,”


Yeah, give him a break. He had a bad day.
obaminated
Member
Thu Mar 18 13:45:47
He isnt saying to give him a break, parafag
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Mar 18 16:25:51
"should be keelhauled."

Commendable choice. Agreed.
habebe
Member
Thu Mar 18 19:26:30
A lot of people use that "um, kind of" speech pattern, he is giving a non medical view of what happened, nicely saying the guy snapped.
kargen
Member
Thu Mar 18 19:56:10
"Same police chief that was rambling on about how this loon was just having a bad day."

Maybe Bob Geldof can write a song.
chuck
Member
Thu Mar 18 21:19:01
The anti-Asian hate crime angle seems way off base. It doesn't ring true but there are a lot of people trying to cash in chips with it.

My bet is that if every masseuse at these places had been from Sweden, he would have shot a bunch of Swedes that day instead.

It seems like he went to shoot up brothels (or brothels lite™) because he visited them, felt they were the reason for his problems, and was totally off his rocker. Based on what is out there in the news, it doesn't seem like anyone has established he would have done otherwise if the workers had not been Asian.

I'm kind of surprised not to see the "sex positive" sex workers weighing in to point out this likely was targeting these ladies as sex workers, not as Asians. Prostitutes et al. face very high rates of physical violence and decriminalizing prostitution to "protect sex worker lives" isn't an unheard of progressive take. Maybe the high-end strippers and callgirls who get political and refer to themselves as sex workers don't consider Asian grandmas churning butter for a living to be their peers? Or perhaps they've got the good sense not to kick a hornet nest?
chuck
Member
Thu Mar 18 21:21:01
Or, third option: perhaps they realize it's totally graceless to call someone out as pretty much a hooker after they got shot.
TJ
Member
Fri Mar 19 09:51:16
The man admitted sexual obsessions and they likely refused to accommodate his progressive behavior. That seems to be a likely motive for an already disturbed mind. Rejection is a weighted indicator and ethnicity doesn't seem to be a motive for him to kill since he frequently visited the establishments according to reports.
chuck
Member
Fri Mar 19 10:46:24
> progressive behavior

Are we still talking about the Southern Baptist nutjob guy?
habebe
Member
Fri Mar 19 11:07:49
This seems like more a religious loner who couldnt get paid lashing out at sex workers than a race thing.
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 19 13:55:19
"Jebbebiah Wilkins
Member Wed Mar 17 12:30:46
Come on he just had a bay day

(Trigger warning: Rugian do not follow the link!)
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713"

Aaron Rupar is a scumbag and a liar who purposely manipulates his videos to fit his leftist narrative (which tumbleweed then proceeds to post on here).
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 19 13:57:11
Oh, and speaking of *that* particular Rupar video:

"Conversation
Robby Soave
@robbysoave
Wow. If you watch the full video, it's clear the police spokesperson is summarizing the suspect's explanation of his own actions to investigators. Vox journalist Aaron Rupar framed this to make it sound like the cop was making excuses for him. Remarkable dishonesty.

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
One of the most viral videos in the country on the day of the Atlanta shootings was one completely doctored in meaning through dishonest editing by @atrupar -- something he has been caught doing so many times. See for yourself. How many did this deceive?"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 19 14:16:20
so you're using a Glenn Greenwald tweet to demonstrate Rupar is a hack?

what the fuck is doctored? i looked at the full video... what is falsely implied?

"it's clear the police spokesperson is summarizing the suspect's explanation of his own actions to investigators"

it's clear in the Rupar video that he's doing that too, Rupar didn't include the reporter question but it's quiet & hard to hear, & doesn't affect the context

also please find any time i posted a Rupar video that was misrepresented, you claim they are easy to locate
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 19 14:25:15
Glenn Greenwald has his own agenda and he is pretty bonkers on a lot of stuff, but at the end of the day he's a reporter that believes in actual journalism.

Rupar on the other hand believes that "journalism" involves acting as a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party and being an advocate for the mass censorship of everyone he disagrees with.

Also, the accusation is that the video was posted out of context, which resulted in a distorted view of what the cop actually said.

Given the explosion of outrage against him that resulted from that video, do you disagree with that assessment
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 19 14:34:49
Rupar posted the entire answer to a question (& the answer basically includes the question... it was whether guy seemed aware of gravity of his actions) & also includes the next question and answer

that's not how to do deceptive editing

i don't even see any other way to take the comment other than his summary of what guy told them

& i know some people are upset about him saying it that way, but i see no deceptive editing at play... that -was- his characterization of the guy's statements & that's what bothered some

plus he has other problems people dug up like his "Covid 19 imported virus from Chy-na" t-shirt... don't post shit on social media :p
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 19 14:44:40
The full context (not just the immediate question) makes it obvious that he was describing what the suspect had said.

Also, how do you justify Rupar's own caption to the video:

"Yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did" -- a law enforcement official explains Robert Aaron Long's decision to kill 8 people in a strange manner"

I know you claim not to read Rupar's Vox articles, or know anything about him (even though you have religiously posted his Twitter content for years), but are you seriously going to claim that you don't ever read his video descriptions and that they don't potentially frame the context of the video content in your mind?

"don't post shit on social media :p"

Well, we agree on that much at least.
TJ
Member
Fri Mar 19 15:01:04
"that's not how to do deceptive editing"

No additional comment. It's a riot.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 19 15:06:09
as i originally never heard of Rupar (& didn't know he worked for Vox til you mentioned it, not that it matters to me), i know for a -fact- that the reason i became aware of his video tweets is i saw Trump say stupid shit (a common occurrence) & wanted to post it here w/ the proof he said it & to get quotes accurate (i'm a great reporter), so i searched twitter, saw he had it, & posted it... i noticed he posts videos often so 'followed' him

now there is a chance i've seen other video clips without seeing the source myself (especially with Marge T. Green), although i've seen no indication he deceptively edit the clips from all the times i've seen the source, so i'm not concerned (feel free to find clips i've posted that are deceptive & i'll reconsider, this one is NOT deceptive)


in any case, i doubt i ever quoted Rupar's personal views here (other than copy/pasting portions of his transcriptions of what is said in the video), i use his clips for the videos always

----

and the cop here -is- giving his own summary of guy's comments & that for whatever reasons upsets people (it didn't upset me)... it's not like he was reading a statement from the guy & Rupar snipped off that he was reading a statement & made it sound like the cop was making the claims
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