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habebe
Member
Tue Mar 30 10:12:32
http://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1374525756991184899?s=19

Remember that time a Syrian Arab killed a bunch of white people and Meena Harris said white men are the biggest threat to this country

(paraphrased).....
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 10:30:10
Ya that story got silenced by cnn and msdnc real fast.
habebe
Member
Tue Mar 30 11:19:06
Yet another example of how many "mainstream" media outlets lose put to more independant media (Andy Ngo in this case)

*waits for woo to go and whine about "news from YouTube"
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 30 11:32:51
^Trump fluffer detected

There, no need for WoO to post.
Allahuakbar
Member
Tue Mar 30 13:01:18
Look what Ngo writes himself and feel like an idiot:

"even if there is no evidence of race playing a role in the attack"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 13:21:43
Andy Ngo has an agenda... make BLM & Antifa look as bad as possible

find a positive BLM tweet
Forwyn
Member
Tue Mar 30 13:27:38
Just a callback to the days of the Ottomans
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 30 13:31:41
"find a positive BLM tweet"

Find a positive Aaron Rupar tweet about Trump
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 13:57:21
i don't consult Rupar for opinions, just videos... which aren't deceptively edited
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 30 14:49:23
Deceptively edited, deceptively captioned, and filtered to present a perpetually negative picture of the American right.

Also you may or may not *consult* him for opinions, but you two *have* virtually identical opinions. That's a distinction without a difference.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 15:15:40
i also am not representing him as some neutral source

(& they are NOT deceptively edited & i don't post his captions... nowhere is he chopping words to hide context or otherwise deliberately mislead... at least in what i've used, i'm not going to vouch for every tweet he's ever made but you haven't demonstrated otherwise)
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 30 15:54:09
You are not correct about Rupar's videos.

But also, whoever said that Ngo was anything other than a guy who covers antifa violence? That's his entire schtick and he doesn't hide it.

Habebe's point wasn't that Ngo is some sort of saint of objectivity, it's that he's providing coverage to a story that's largely being ignored by much larger media institutions.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 16:04:06
you haven't provided a single example of a deceptive video... even on that 'cop/bad day' thing where the right went nuts on, at least one person backtracked & acknowledged the video wasn't deceptive at all, but still didn't like his typed excerpt (which also was fine)


habebe appeared to imply Ngo was a more trustworthy source than mainstream media

the OP link isn't about providing coverage it's making fun of the jump to asian hate crime on that massage shooter

Ngo will play up any negative BLM story (or Antifa for that matter, although there's not a lot of pro-Antifa people) he is definitely pushing a narrative
Rugian
Member
Tue Mar 30 16:18:26
And the NYT isn't? The organization that literally had a staff meeting after Mueller blew up the Russian collusion narrative, which ended with the consensus of "let's go after Trump for being a racist instead?"

CNN isn't? The organization that realized early on that there was a huge viewer base that wanted to be perpetually angry at Trump and capitalized on that by upping their anti-Trump coverage to an 11?

MSNBC isn't? The organization that was already basically the Fox News for leftists, that decided to spam Russia coverage so heavily that their viewers would he shitting borscht?

What's an example of an organization that ISN'T pushing a narrative, in your mind?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 16:26:42
i am saying Ngo is not the droid you're looking for, not that the droid exists

maybe there is no fair source out there

CNN is my pick for TV news (i like having TV on in background), certainly better than Fox, & i assume you'd find it fairer than MSNBC, i dunno... they aren't perfect but i don't know a better choice
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 16:28:54
Except andy ngo has an excuse: hes one dude. The antifa reporter. Thats it. Thats what he does.

The mainstream media has a billion dollars, 10,000 people, and still reports on just their preferred natatives.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 16:52:33
but he's not some neutral antifa reporter

one tweet: "Both BLM & Antifa carry out acts of carnage & ultra-violence using “racial justice” as a shield against criticism. They’re violent extremists who preach insurrection."

not saying you can't follow him if you want every negative piece of info you can find on Antifa & BLM, but he's in no way trying to present a fair picture
kargen
Member
Tue Mar 30 17:32:58
"one tweet: "Both BLM & Antifa carry out acts of carnage & ultra-violence using “racial justice” as a shield against criticism. They’re violent extremists who preach insurrection.""

That tweet is spot on. BLM may have once been a good cause but that cause has been hijacked. They probably have a few naive members that don't know what they are getting into. For the most part though the tweet is correct.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 17:45:42
Ya, he opposes antifa. Any sane person should oppose antifa, liberal or conservative.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 18:00:34
any sane person should oppose Trump
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 18:10:21
Ok. Trump sucks. Next?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 18:21:17
i fine w/ just that :p


the point on Ngo is more clear about BLM than Antifa... he has personal hatred so is highlighting the negatives (& anything he claims could be colored by his hatred, as is a danger w/ anyone)

and if BLM or Antifa assault someone he's gonna post it no question, but if they get assaulted? not likely... i'm not going to read every tweet he's ever made, someone can prove me wrong if so
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 30 20:12:05
Ngo has an agenda, yes. I wouldn't say Ngo is comparable 1 on 1 with an organization of hundreds.

But in this particular case, he is reminding us of something that got very little mainstream coverage, and it something alot of people would want to know.

Independent media isnt perfect but it does operate differently, there is clearly a much larger variety and can ideally get better coverage about individual topics because there is such a variety.

But I'm kinda stoned so whatever.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 30 20:19:58
Kargen, I'd say the opposite. Many who joined later on may have protested in good faith, but BLM was created and run by terrorists.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 30 20:26:35
Plus this ws also a believable story, easily verified by Meena herself.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 20:52:01
TW, id say mr ngo is a pretty factual reporter and i have not caught him doing anything particularly manipulative. He is less underhanded and lies less than CNN, NYT, FOX, etc.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 30 21:42:19
i'm not an expert on him & he may not be particularly manipulative, just seems if he mentions "left-wing" or any such group it will be w/ negative commentary & opposite for "right-wing"

i'm not trying to smear him as awful, just don't agree he's better than other media
hood
Member
Tue Mar 30 21:48:38
"Any sane person should oppose antifa, liberal or conservative."

Any sane person should oppose antifascists? Most of the world is antifascist.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 21:51:11
Oh hes definitely got a right bias, but he also tries to do a more scientific level of reporting accuracy than most.

Dont get me wrong, hes not a test pilot or a petro engineering scout or some other hard field scientist you would expect true precision from in their reports. But hes better than the average journalist by lots.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Mar 30 21:54:01
"Any sane person should oppose antifascists? Most of the world is antifascist."

Hood the retard be like "duurrrrr i think north korea is democratic causes its in da name."
hood
Member
Tue Mar 30 21:58:12
your trolling doesn't even make sense anymore. you should try harder to at least be coherent.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 30 23:36:08
http://youtu.be/hsDQDDrL9Yo

Hahaha
chuck
Member
Wed Mar 31 18:44:24
"Arabs are hunting white folks"
Says habibi
Forwyn
Member
Wed Mar 31 21:06:50
Arabs have been hunting whites for longer than whites hunted blacks
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Mar 31 22:04:13
Of course that confuses you hood.
hood
Member
Wed Mar 31 23:00:11
http://i.k...s/newsfeed/000/738/025/db0.jpg

^sam
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