Utopia Talk / Politics / Biden border policy fails, follows trump

obaminated Member	Wed Apr 07 19:56:05 Restart building the wall, punish sanctuary cities, turn back illegals. How the turntables.
kargen Member	Wed Apr 07 20:04:57 Nah, they aren't building the wall they are just filling in some gaps. And it really isn't a wall just a protective barrier.
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 07 20:57:43 But they fought Trump tooth and nail to keep any part of the wall built.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 07 21:18:59 is it gaps created when the fraud admin removed old fencing before putting up the new fencing? almost all of Frauds fence is just replacement fencing... and not sure he did any miles at all that weren’t already approved before he conned his way into office
obaminated Member	Wed Apr 07 21:20:38 Lol, tw.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 07 21:28:23 lol, conned fool
Dukhat Member	Wed Apr 07 21:32:17 Noone will ever be a greater failure than Mexican Retardo himself who proudly proclaimed that the Coronavirus was fake and not to wear a mask just weeks before his grandmother died to it. Epic levels of stupid and fail. Not just the event itself but the fact he learned nothing from it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 07 22:02:21 CBP's own report Border Wall Status – January 8, 2021 http://int...llStatusPaper_asof01082021.pdf so in Fraud's whole term they achieved: - 351 miles of replacement fencing - 47 miles where there wasn't any* (leaving off the 'secondary fencing' figures as not covering any additional border area) * but doesn't mean fencing wasn't already approved for that area, going purely on memory there was over 100 miles approved but not built yet
obaminated Member	Wed Apr 07 22:56:32 why did illegal immigration explode when Biden became president, cuckhat and tw?
Dukhat Member	Thu Apr 08 00:17:04 It went up like 20-30%. Hardly exploding.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 08 00:25:25 was rising high before election even happened http://www.wola.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Chart-1.jpeg 'Trump's policies weren't solving anything
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 08 11:23:18 http://www...n-crossing-border-HISTORY.html Yep, not exploding at all. Will definitely not have lasting problems.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 08 12:01:10 "The previous record was when around 11,000 children crossed the border in May 2019" seems kinda like the record is going up in recent history + pandemic shutdown probably created some pent-up demand (+ yeah, Biden admin's policy of not shoving unaccompanied children back into Mexico to be their problem)
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 08 12:46:36 11k to 19k is a big fucking leap you idiot. And we turned most of those kids away because we have no options for them. Biden accepted them. Welcomed them. And now they are in incredibly overcrowded cages with shitty water and miserable food. It is funny how you cared about this under trump. But when it goes on steroids under biden you dont bat an eye
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 08 12:50:58 Actually, it isnt funny. It shows that your ideology trumps (heh) your morality.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 08 14:19:35 no, it shows your sources -continue- to mislead you w/ the idea it's the same (i know, i see it constantly from GQP propaganda on twitter) Trump was deliberately -separating- kids from parents... with a NEW policy (that they proudly announced so can't deny it)... THAT was the scandal... every single kid w/ parents separated, even if -only- crime was crossing the border then they labeled them as unaccompanied (for god knows what reason), & then they unsurprisingly lost track of who went w/ what parents... scandal #2 ======== as for Biden situation... these are actual unaccompanied minors... & iirc many of the kids have relatives here that if/when confirmed they go to them, if not they get sent back
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 08 14:22:39 Actually no. Trump was seperating kids from adults because they had no evidence of being the parents. Ya see, a lot of kids get smuggled in and become sex slaves. We look at real world problems. You live in fantasy world.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 08 14:23:35 Aaand trump was punishing adults for breaking a crime while trying to figure out what to do with random kids with no ID.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 08 16:20:10 "because they had no evidence of being the parents" wrong... they could've been coming out of the womb, they'd be separated it was intentional & deliberate
kargen Member	Thu Apr 08 18:44:00 President Trump separated kids from adults because federal and state laws require it. It wasn't always kids from parents as often neither the kids nor the adults had IDs. Even if it were parents the law still doesn't allow for minors to be detained with adults. It was "intentional & deliberate" but it was also the legal thing to do. To not separate would have been to break laws. Might also point out parents accompanying their children to the border then being separated after detained is leaps and bound better than parents being separated before the children reach the border with hope that the children can survive being hucked over the fence and/or abandoned. President Trump was adamant that the children would not be allowed to stay and that curtailed the migration some. President Biden said if they get here they stay here meaning this current surge is just a glimpse of what is to come. And with the children on their own for the last bit of the journey we have no way of knowing how many have perished. The children are unaccompanied because of President Biden's statements. The parents know the children get a pass if no adult is with them. President Biden and his team severely fucked this up because of their Trump Derangement Syndrome (you know all about that as a chronic sufferer yourself) and now are to cowardly to admit they fucked up.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 08 21:55:00 so when Kirstjen Nielsen went to a press briefing to explain the changes (including how separated children would be lumped in with unaccompanied) she wasn’t actually going over changes.... and when various Trump allies noted separating children would act as a deterrent they were talking about the no changes going on... (but actually none of anything was Trumps policy... Trump wanted to just shoot them)
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 08 22:17:02 you are useless.
kargen Member	Thu Apr 08 22:28:59 President Obama instructed his people to ignore the law. Because he was surrounded with people with much less morals/ethics than himself they did. Gladly.
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