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habebe
Member Mon May 24 08:57:54
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Sam Adams
Member Mon May 24 09:05:55
Lol poor jergul trying to change the game after the fact.

habebe
Member Mon May 24 09:12:27
updated regularly.
jergul
large member Mon May 24 08:22:37
Sammy
RIP Sammy on June first. Or did you miss that?

habebe
I would have added 7 points to my forcast if I had realized the CDC would go crazy with its emergency use authorization to children.

My actual goalpost is 57% with that factored in.
habebe
Member Mon May 24 08:55:07
Why 7%?

I went with what I thought was a conservative number, taking into account slowdowns and fuck ups.

recap^

nhill
Member Mon May 24 09:48:19
lol

jergul
large member Mon May 24 10:27:11
Sammy
The CDC moved the goalposts when it ok'd emergency use authorization on children.

The ethics on that suck.

Habebe
Why not 7%? Something more than 5% if I had included children.

jergul
large member Mon May 24 10:30:24
Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022
Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022
Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021
Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021
Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021
State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 - off 12.2%
Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021 - off 13.8%

habebe
Member Mon May 24 10:30:42
Jergul, I have no idea what % of the pop. is 12-17 years old or under 18 etc.

I was just curious why you chose that amount, like was there a specific reason or just guesstimating a bit more.

Sam Adams
Member Mon May 24 10:49:50
"Sammy
The CDC moved the goalposts when it ok'd emergency use authorization on children."

1) that you didnt forsee pfizer age limit going down from 16 to 12 isnt our problem

2) the us is reaching 50% well before your prediction even without that

Pwnt.

jergul
large member Mon May 24 12:14:01
habebe
Its just a guesstimate.

Sammy
You don't get to complain about moving goalposts when the cdc moves them.

The US is reaching 50% well after your prediction. Made at a later date based on more available information.

Pwnt.

Forwyn
Member Mon May 24 12:17:33
jergul didn't account for increasing eligiblity and availabilty over time and calls it moving the goalposts

Lulz

jergul
large member Mon May 24 12:23:13
Forwyn
Oh, I did account for it. Just not the experimental emergency use authorization of drugs on children not at risk from the disease.

I was a bit surprised by the doctor mengele shift in cdc ethics. I wlll admit to that.

Rugian
Member Mon May 24 12:34:09
Jergul as usual is being highly selective in his outrage. We'd arguably be closer to 50% if Biden hadn't tanked public confidence in the vaccine by pulling J&J over a handful of cases, but you won't see him complaining of "moving the goalposts" over that.

Rugian
Member Mon May 24 12:35:35
And the Mengele comparisons are just hilarious. This is a vaccine being offered on an entirely voluntary basis, with its EUA status fully transparent.

Sam Adams
Member Mon May 24 13:04:26
Rofl jergul is taking this very poorly. I love rubbing it in when people do that. Like steelers fans.

Sam Adams
Member Mon May 24 13:07:03
And jets fans, little green buttfuckers that they are. Muhaha.

jergul
large member Mon May 24 13:33:30
Ruggy
Children cannot consent, so cannot volunteer to be vaccinated.

Rugian
Member Mon May 24 13:41:07
Mature minors CAN consent, its a well established doctrine in American law. Non-mature minors can't consent, which is why they need a parent or guardian to approve the use of the vaccine.

Forwyn
Member Mon May 24 14:36:32
> gives life-altering hormone drugs to pre-teens

Habebe
Member Mon May 24 14:42:03
Jergul, "I was a bit surprised by the doctor mengele shift in cdc ethics. I wlll admit to that."

See, there it is. Most US conservatives are already weary of such groups like the cdc.

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if kids over 2 yrs old arent getting shots by the holidays.

Habebe
Member Mon May 24 14:44:54
As for voluntary basis, the parents can consent, just like with many medical treatments and vaccines.

jergul
large member Mon May 24 15:12:58
Subjecting entire cohorts of children to Emergency Use Authorized medicine is unheard of.

nhill
Member Mon May 24 15:15:30
People had been clamoring very loudly for that to happen since the start of vaccines over here. I wasn't surprised in the least, and nobody else I know that lives in the USA was either.

Habebe
Member Mon May 24 15:21:02
To be honest, it seems strange to me that something that is so vile people want us to keep kids out of school for a year and have them locked down, but dont give them a vaccinne that so far seems safe and is probably going to do less damage than indefinite lockdowns.

Rugian
Member Mon May 24 15:27:40
jergul
large member Mon May 24 15:12:58
"Subjecting entire cohorts of children to Emergency Use Authorized medicine is unheard of."

Makes sense. The last time we had a pandemic this severe, the FDA didn't even exist yet.

This entire pandemic is unprecedented for the modern FDA era. No reason for the solution to not be unprecedented as well.

Rugian
Member Tue May 25 09:26:06
May 24:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.4% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 39.3% (+0.1%)

Habebe
Member Tue May 25 20:24:27
http://www...ff-729bc7f00d16%22&form=HPNN01

Half of all US adults are vaccinated.

Sam Adams
Member Tue May 25 23:22:02
New study on covid immune: the protection should last a lifetime(assuming the mutations are not crazy)

hood
Member Tue May 25 23:38:16
^ gonna need a link for that sam

Sam Adams
Member Wed May 26 09:42:29
http://www.studyfinds.org/mild-covid-19-antibody-for-life/

Basically says the initial drop in antibodies is expected and the memory cells last forever.

Now this is one study, so grain of salt, of course.

hood
Member Wed May 26 10:20:00
Yeah; study also only has 11 months of data and there's been predictions of the antibody falloff being between 6 and 12 months. If the finding holds through the winter, it'll be a big deal.

Rugian
Member Wed May 26 10:23:59
May 25:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.5% (+0.1%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 39.5% (+0.2%)

jergul
large member Wed May 26 10:29:06
Just a few more days now until Sammy will be miserably wrong. Such pwnage!

Sam Adams
Member Wed May 26 10:46:11
Sam will be off by a month. Jergul will be off by a year.

Lulz.

jergul
large member Wed May 26 15:23:47
Yah, you fucked up badly even though you made a midgame prediction. Rofl.

Lets see who is off by the largest percentage. It will be a true nailbiter :)

Rugian
Member Thu May 27 20:30:29
jergul

The loser is you, always and forever, for rooting for the pandemic to continue just so you can be proven right on an internet message board.

Shame on you and your progeny.

Rugian
Member Thu May 27 20:31:23
May 26:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.7% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 39.7% (+0.2%)

-----

May 27:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.9% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 40.0% (+0.3%)

Sam Adams
Member Thu May 27 21:17:53
"% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.9%"

Uh oh jergul!!! The pwnage is imminent.

Seb
Member Fri May 28 02:26:00
Germany looking at opening vaccination up for 12-18 year olds.

Seb
Member Fri May 28 13:09:10
Sam:

Yeah but wasn't the metric fully vaccinated, not at least 1 dose?

Seb
Member Fri May 28 13:09:51
It looks like you lost on that basis!

Sam Adams
Member Fri May 28 14:18:56
A second dose follows the first. Jerguls doom impends.

jergul
large member Fri May 28 14:37:31
Ruggy
Rooting for it to continue? Covid-19 became endemic a while ago, so its enduring nature is merely a fact.

Sammy
Your lose and face total pwnage and doom in a few days. Rofl!

Sam Adams
Member Fri May 28 15:02:37
Sam: off by a month

Jergul: off by a year

Lolpwnt.

Sam Adams
Member Fri May 28 15:03:26
Being an order of magnitude worse is actually improvement for you.

Good job!

jergul
large member Sat May 29 03:45:56
Three more days until your total pwnage. No wonder you are sad.

Seb
Member Sat May 29 04:12:07
Sam:

I think US will get 70% fully vaccinated

But 50% fully vaccinated before June is what you signed up to right?

Rugian
Member Sat May 29 13:56:22
jergul

You know what I meant, you cute fuck.

It was one thing when you were just an hater of the US and Western civilization. But now you've graduated to becoming a hater of humanity itself. It's beyond my comprehension how someone can get to this point.

You simply have an evil and malevolent soul. I don't know how else to put it.

Rugian
Member Sat May 29 13:58:51
Anyway, the rest of us can appreciate that the effort to eliminate the threat of the virus is continuing to progress.

May 28:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.1% (+0.4%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 40.2% (+0.5%)

-----

May 29:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.3% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 40.5% (+0.3%)

habebe
Member Sat May 29 16:18:08
I wonder what % of the unvaccinated gained a natural immunity.

Rand Paul said he won't get a vaccine because e has natural immunity for example.

Pillz
Member Sat May 29 18:39:16
As of March 11th:

15% of Quebec has immunity
5% from vaccines
10% from exposure

Probably get numbers from the latest blood drive in mid summer.

Sam Adams
Member Sat May 29 20:24:31
% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.3% (+0.2%)

There it is. The fully vaxxing will directly.

Sam Adams
Member Sat May 29 20:41:04
Follow. A little drunk. On vacation. Cause im fully vaxxed and so is everyone else.

Seb
Member Sun May 30 13:19:35
"Cause im fully vaxxed and so is everyone else."

Out by at least a factor 2.

Rugian
Member Sun May 30 13:24:03
Sam

Good to see you enjoying your life, as you rightfully should. To add a cherry on top, your partying likely pissed off at least one lockdown-loving Karen yesterday. Well done sir.

Rugian
Member Sun May 30 13:24:31
May 29:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.5% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 40.7% (+0.2%)

Rugian
Member Sun May 30 13:24:52
May *30, obviously

Sam Adams
Member Mon May 31 00:09:14
"Seb
Member Sun May 30 13:19:35
"Cause im fully vaxxed and so is everyone else."

Out by at least a factor 2. "

No.

Everyone i know is fully vaxxed except for babies and one pregnant lady.

Pillz
Member Mon May 31 11:37:53
I know 4 people outside of work who've been vaccinated. 3 work in hospitals.

Fuck your vaccines

Seb
Member Mon May 31 12:29:03
Everyone you know is hardly everyone.

Sam Adams
Member Mon May 31 12:44:07
Its everyone i interact with for more than a minute.

jergul
large member Tue Jun 01 10:29:06
Sammy pwned!

Sam Adams
Member Wed Jun 02 11:36:40
Oh no, i was off by a little. The horror.

jergul
large member Wed Jun 02 11:56:40
9.5% is a little? Good to know :)

Forwyn
Member Wed Jun 02 14:56:36
Naturally, jergul opts for % instead of days, when making a date prediction, because % will taper off after 50, unlike the 4+ months he'll be off.

jergul
large member Wed Jun 02 21:27:47
Forwyn
Naturally. The premise is that the US would have trouble vaccinating its population. The actual date I set was arbitrary (sometime after plataeu). I thought the plataeu excluding children was 50%. It is obviously a bit higher.

jergul
large member Wed Jun 02 21:29:25
Ruggy
Your update?

Sam Adams
Member Wed Jun 02 21:43:54
"The premise is that the US would have trouble vaccinating its population."

Are you vaxxed yet? Lol

jergul
large member Thu Jun 03 02:03:09
Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022
Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022
Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021 - off 9% (ROFL)
Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021
Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021
State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 - off 12.2%
Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021 - off 13.8%

jergul
large member Thu Jun 03 03:19:22
Sammy
Ready to spindoctor Pfizer? Is it suddenly a crap German vaccine?

(heart inflammation younger males according to Israeli study)

Habebe
Member Thu Jun 03 08:58:52
Pretty sure all the vaccines owe DARPA for funding the MRNA.

Sam Adams
Member Thu Jun 03 10:27:17
Are you vaxxed yet jergul? Lol.

jergul
large member Thu Jun 03 16:21:30
Sammy
Wife is fully vaccinated. Not my turn yet.

Sam Adams
Member Thu Jun 03 17:23:01
So... you guys STILL dont have enough vaxxes in europe?

Godamn.

Habebe
Member Thu Jun 03 17:45:33
The US I think just gave out 25 million more.

Rugian
Member Thu Jun 03 20:26:45
June 3:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.9%

% of US fully vaccinated: 41.2%

----

Looks like both metrics have been increasing by an average of 10 bps per day this week.

Maybe Bill De Blasio should take his "free Shake Shack for those who get vaccinated" campaign nationwide. I'm sure that'd get the vaccination rates increased by a ton.

Habebe
Member Thu Jun 03 20:57:13
WV is raffling off shotgums and rifles.

*Trying to wait for my brother in law to finish rambling his stories, he just came over to drink my last beer, not the first time, who the fuck takes the last one!

But now he will act like he was just stopping by to hang out instead of drink some free beer.

Rugian
Member Sat Jun 05 11:06:47
Somehow I don't think its a coincidence that you were thinking about firearms and your brother-in-law in the same post.

Rugian
Member Sat Jun 05 11:16:53
June 4:

% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 51.1% (+0.2%)

% of US fully vaccinated: 41.4% (+0.2%)

----

The CDC's website also now includes a counter for number of jurisdictions where at least 70% of adults have gotten at least one shot (13). Imo that's a weird statistic to highlight since urban areas make up only a small percentage of total jurisdictions. I think they're setting themselves up to underwhelm there.

Habebe
Member Sat Jun 05 11:35:20
Yeah, maybe not. They can never come over one at a time, its both girls my sister and her husband.

They just showed up yesterday at 9 AM and didnt leave until 3:30.

I get their AC sucks, but they had so much free money in thenlast year or so, I chose to pay $400 for an industrial AC. They bought lottery tickets, not my fault. I still have $2k in uncashed stimulous checks.Which yeah, I have to vadh them soon.

Drunks are annoying. I had him off booze years ago. Admittedly he was snorting meth, but his house was clean and he was doing stuff.

He literally just drinks until he falls over, tells.the same.stories from the 1980s 47 thousand times. He broke two of my lawn chairs, like hes bot evem an alcoholic, he is a drunk, definitely more tolerable on speed.

Habebe
Member Sat Jun 05 11:36:59
My June 1st estimate will be cutting it close, definitely in June at the latest it seems.

SC is arguing over vaccine lottery.I think 20 100k chances would be better than 2 million dollar ones, but whatever.

jergul
large member Thu Jun 10 09:51:02
ttt

Sam Adams
Member Thu Jun 10 09:56:26
http://usa.../covid-vaccine-tracker-states/

43% fully vaxxed and climbing slowly.

US corona cases are plumetting.

Habebe
Member Thu Jun 10 10:10:20
7% in 20 days, can it be done?

jergul
large member Sat Jun 12 15:38:13
What is your feeling now?

Forwyn
Member Sat Jun 12 20:02:44
We have so many vaxxes we're giving them away by the tens of millions and still have many in danger of expiring. Lol

jergul
large member Sat Jun 12 23:01:11
lol@not getting those vaccines into American arms.

Forwyn
Member Sat Jun 12 23:29:46
Multimillion lotteries, giveaways, various incentives

But we passed 40% and most mandates are going away.

Lol@the Nordic idea of just making it mandatory

Seb
Member Sun Jun 13 05:47:02
UK overtook the US on fully vaccinated despite the three month gap strategy in the UK.

Seb
Member Sun Jun 13 05:48:31
Also the US turns out to have anomalously high excess death rates considering its covid death stats. All those families of deniers wanting to make sure Covid wasn't on the death certs.

Sam Adams
Member Sun Jun 13 10:26:54
"UK overtook the US on fully vaccinated despite the three month gap strategy in the UK"

But with shitty astrazenca. Look at your case rates. That fucking thing isnt working at all against whatever strain you have now. Jesus christ... not only are you fucked, once word of this gets out your shitty vax will be contributing to antivax feelings that will kill millions. Astrazenca will probably end up doing more damage than trump.

Jergul... when your nation finally recieves enough charity from better nations for you to get one, make sure you get an elite american mrna vax and not astrazenca.

Forwyn
Member Sun Jun 13 10:32:38
Congrats, you vaccinated the population of Texas

jergul
large member Sun Jun 13 19:37:54
Sammy
Its not charity if we pay for it.

Anyways, getting my first shot tomorrow.

jergul
large member Sun Jun 13 19:38:44
Forwyn
Its not mandatory here. You must be thinking of North Korea.

Seb
Member Sun Jun 13 21:57:28
Oh mate. The stats are published. The case rates are in the non-fully vaccinated population.

What this shows is how vulnerable US remains to variants like Delta given your current vaccination rate.

Sam Adams
Member Mon Jun 14 09:38:47
"Anyways, getting my first shot tomorrow."

Congrats. I wont troll you for that.

Sam Adams
Member Mon Jun 14 09:52:41
"The case rates are in the non-fully vaccinated population. "

No, seb. You dont get that kind of explosive growth without some vaccine breakthrough.

Remember in september when obvious explosive growth was occurring leading to your second wave? We all saw it except you denied it and said eveything was fine? Guess what... your current growth is steeper than that was. Something like 70% of your nation should have some immunity now. Either the indian variant is 4x as virulent or its breaking through your vax more than it should be.

Sam Adams
Member Mon Jun 14 10:25:49
Meanwhile another elite american vax, novavax, is ready to go. The three best vaxes in the world are all US.

Duh.

Seb
Member Mon Jun 14 11:02:18
Sam:

"No, seb. You dont get that kind of explosive growth without some vaccine breakthrough."

The evidence says otherwise. There is a 12 week wait period between first dose and second dose.

56-59 year olds were called for first dose on w/c 8 march. Which means they only started getting their second doses from 31st May. Note those with vulnerabilities etc. will have received doses earlier.

This link shows modelled 1st and 2nd dose proportion of each age group.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26

Now, we know that even 1 dose gives strong protection against serious symptoms, and the evidence shows that. Almost none of the patients in hospital have two doses. So this strategy has still been very effective at preventing deaths and reducing severity.

This is the latest breakdown of positive tests by age.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights#age

As you can see, the vast majority of people testing positive for Covid-19 - the ones driving the new case numbers, are under 50.

All the evidence shows that the vaccines are working very effectively at protecting people form the virus - but the full course is needed.

In some respect then, this is a vindication for the sequencing rules: we have maximised coverage of protection.

Seb
Member Mon Jun 14 12:04:59
PHE figures: AZ is 92% effective against hospitalisation for delta. Pfizer 96%.

Sam Adams
Member Mon Jun 14 13:27:04
Against delta infections, its 60% for AZ and 90% for pfizer. Big difference.

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habebe Member	Mon May 24 08:57:54 ...
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 09:05:55 Lol poor jergul trying to change the game after the fact.
habebe Member	Mon May 24 09:12:27 updated regularly. jergul large member Mon May 24 08:22:37 Sammy RIP Sammy on June first. Or did you miss that? habebe I would have added 7 points to my forcast if I had realized the CDC would go crazy with its emergency use authorization to children. My actual goalpost is 57% with that factored in. habebe Member Mon May 24 08:55:07 Why 7%? I went with what I thought was a conservative number, taking into account slowdowns and fuck ups. recap^
nhill Member	Mon May 24 09:48:19 lol
jergul large member	Mon May 24 10:27:11 Sammy The CDC moved the goalposts when it ok'd emergency use authorization on children. The ethics on that suck. Habebe Why not 7%? Something more than 5% if I had included children.
jergul large member	Mon May 24 10:30:24 Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022 Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022 Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021 Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021 Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021 State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 - off 12.2% Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021 - off 13.8%
habebe Member	Mon May 24 10:30:42 Jergul, I have no idea what % of the pop. is 12-17 years old or under 18 etc. I was just curious why you chose that amount, like was there a specific reason or just guesstimating a bit more.
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 10:49:50 "Sammy The CDC moved the goalposts when it ok'd emergency use authorization on children." 1) that you didnt forsee pfizer age limit going down from 16 to 12 isnt our problem 2) the us is reaching 50% well before your prediction even without that Pwnt.
jergul large member	Mon May 24 12:14:01 habebe Its just a guesstimate. Sammy You don't get to complain about moving goalposts when the cdc moves them. The US is reaching 50% well after your prediction. Made at a later date based on more available information. Pwnt.
Forwyn Member	Mon May 24 12:17:33 jergul didn't account for increasing eligiblity and availabilty over time and calls it moving the goalposts Lulz
jergul large member	Mon May 24 12:23:13 Forwyn Oh, I did account for it. Just not the experimental emergency use authorization of drugs on children not at risk from the disease. I was a bit surprised by the doctor mengele shift in cdc ethics. I wlll admit to that.
Rugian Member	Mon May 24 12:34:09 Jergul as usual is being highly selective in his outrage. We'd arguably be closer to 50% if Biden hadn't tanked public confidence in the vaccine by pulling J&J over a handful of cases, but you won't see him complaining of "moving the goalposts" over that.
Rugian Member	Mon May 24 12:35:35 And the Mengele comparisons are just hilarious. This is a vaccine being offered on an entirely voluntary basis, with its EUA status fully transparent.
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 13:04:26 Rofl jergul is taking this very poorly. I love rubbing it in when people do that. Like steelers fans.
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 24 13:07:03 And jets fans, little green buttfuckers that they are. Muhaha.
jergul large member	Mon May 24 13:33:30 Ruggy Children cannot consent, so cannot volunteer to be vaccinated.
Rugian Member	Mon May 24 13:41:07 Mature minors CAN consent, its a well established doctrine in American law. Non-mature minors can't consent, which is why they need a parent or guardian to approve the use of the vaccine.
Forwyn Member	Mon May 24 14:36:32 > gives life-altering hormone drugs to pre-teens
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 14:42:03 Jergul, "I was a bit surprised by the doctor mengele shift in cdc ethics. I wlll admit to that." See, there it is. Most US conservatives are already weary of such groups like the cdc. Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if kids over 2 yrs old arent getting shots by the holidays.
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 14:44:54 As for voluntary basis, the parents can consent, just like with many medical treatments and vaccines.
jergul large member	Mon May 24 15:12:58 Subjecting entire cohorts of children to Emergency Use Authorized medicine is unheard of.
nhill Member	Mon May 24 15:15:30 People had been clamoring very loudly for that to happen since the start of vaccines over here. I wasn't surprised in the least, and nobody else I know that lives in the USA was either.
Habebe Member	Mon May 24 15:21:02 To be honest, it seems strange to me that something that is so vile people want us to keep kids out of school for a year and have them locked down, but dont give them a vaccinne that so far seems safe and is probably going to do less damage than indefinite lockdowns.
Rugian Member	Mon May 24 15:27:40 jergul large member Mon May 24 15:12:58 "Subjecting entire cohorts of children to Emergency Use Authorized medicine is unheard of." Makes sense. The last time we had a pandemic this severe, the FDA didn't even exist yet. This entire pandemic is unprecedented for the modern FDA era. No reason for the solution to not be unprecedented as well.
Rugian Member	Tue May 25 09:26:06 May 24: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.4% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 39.3% (+0.1%)
Habebe Member	Tue May 25 20:24:27 http://www...ff-729bc7f00d16%22&form=HPNN01 Half of all US adults are vaccinated.
Sam Adams Member	Tue May 25 23:22:02 New study on covid immune: the protection should last a lifetime(assuming the mutations are not crazy)
hood Member	Tue May 25 23:38:16 ^ gonna need a link for that sam
Sam Adams Member	Wed May 26 09:42:29 http://www.studyfinds.org/mild-covid-19-antibody-for-life/ Basically says the initial drop in antibodies is expected and the memory cells last forever. Now this is one study, so grain of salt, of course.
hood Member	Wed May 26 10:20:00 Yeah; study also only has 11 months of data and there's been predictions of the antibody falloff being between 6 and 12 months. If the finding holds through the winter, it'll be a big deal.
Rugian Member	Wed May 26 10:23:59 May 25: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.5% (+0.1%) % of US fully vaccinated: 39.5% (+0.2%)
jergul large member	Wed May 26 10:29:06 Just a few more days now until Sammy will be miserably wrong. Such pwnage!
Sam Adams Member	Wed May 26 10:46:11 Sam will be off by a month. Jergul will be off by a year. Lulz.
jergul large member	Wed May 26 15:23:47 Yah, you fucked up badly even though you made a midgame prediction. Rofl. Lets see who is off by the largest percentage. It will be a true nailbiter :)
Rugian Member	Thu May 27 20:30:29 jergul The loser is you, always and forever, for rooting for the pandemic to continue just so you can be proven right on an internet message board. Shame on you and your progeny.
Rugian Member	Thu May 27 20:31:23 May 26: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.7% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 39.7% (+0.2%) ----- May 27: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.9% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 40.0% (+0.3%)
Sam Adams Member	Thu May 27 21:17:53 "% of US that has received at least 1 dose: 49.9%" Uh oh jergul!!! The pwnage is imminent.
Seb Member	Fri May 28 02:26:00 Germany looking at opening vaccination up for 12-18 year olds.
Seb Member	Fri May 28 13:09:10 Sam: Yeah but wasn't the metric fully vaccinated, not at least 1 dose?
Seb Member	Fri May 28 13:09:51 It looks like you lost on that basis!
Sam Adams Member	Fri May 28 14:18:56 A second dose follows the first. Jerguls doom impends.
jergul large member	Fri May 28 14:37:31 Ruggy Rooting for it to continue? Covid-19 became endemic a while ago, so its enduring nature is merely a fact. Sammy Your lose and face total pwnage and doom in a few days. Rofl!
Sam Adams Member	Fri May 28 15:02:37 Sam: off by a month Jergul: off by a year Lolpwnt.
Sam Adams Member	Fri May 28 15:03:26 Being an order of magnitude worse is actually improvement for you. Good job!
jergul large member	Sat May 29 03:45:56 Three more days until your total pwnage. No wonder you are sad.
Seb Member	Sat May 29 04:12:07 Sam: I think US will get 70% fully vaccinated But 50% fully vaccinated before June is what you signed up to right?
Rugian Member	Sat May 29 13:56:22 jergul You know what I meant, you cute fuck. It was one thing when you were just an hater of the US and Western civilization. But now you've graduated to becoming a hater of humanity itself. It's beyond my comprehension how someone can get to this point. You simply have an evil and malevolent soul. I don't know how else to put it.
Rugian Member	Sat May 29 13:58:51 Anyway, the rest of us can appreciate that the effort to eliminate the threat of the virus is continuing to progress. May 28: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.1% (+0.4%) % of US fully vaccinated: 40.2% (+0.5%) ----- May 29: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.3% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 40.5% (+0.3%)
habebe Member	Sat May 29 16:18:08 I wonder what % of the unvaccinated gained a natural immunity. Rand Paul said he won't get a vaccine because e has natural immunity for example.
Pillz Member	Sat May 29 18:39:16 As of March 11th: 15% of Quebec has immunity 5% from vaccines 10% from exposure Probably get numbers from the latest blood drive in mid summer.
Sam Adams Member	Sat May 29 20:24:31 % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.3% (+0.2%) There it is. The fully vaxxing will directly.
Sam Adams Member	Sat May 29 20:41:04 Follow. A little drunk. On vacation. Cause im fully vaxxed and so is everyone else.
Seb Member	Sun May 30 13:19:35 "Cause im fully vaxxed and so is everyone else." Out by at least a factor 2.
Rugian Member	Sun May 30 13:24:03 Sam Good to see you enjoying your life, as you rightfully should. To add a cherry on top, your partying likely pissed off at least one lockdown-loving Karen yesterday. Well done sir.
Rugian Member	Sun May 30 13:24:31 May 29: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.5% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 40.7% (+0.2%)
Rugian Member	Sun May 30 13:24:52 *May 30, obviously**
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 31 00:09:14 "Seb Member Sun May 30 13:19:35 "Cause im fully vaxxed and so is everyone else." Out by at least a factor 2. " No. Everyone i know is fully vaxxed except for babies and one pregnant lady.
Pillz Member	Mon May 31 11:37:53 I know 4 people outside of work who've been vaccinated. 3 work in hospitals. Fuck your vaccines
Seb Member	Mon May 31 12:29:03 Everyone you know is hardly everyone.
Sam Adams Member	Mon May 31 12:44:07 Its everyone i interact with for more than a minute.
jergul large member	Tue Jun 01 10:29:06 Sammy pwned!
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jun 02 11:36:40 Oh no, i was off by a little. The horror.
jergul large member	Wed Jun 02 11:56:40 9.5% is a little? Good to know :)
Forwyn Member	Wed Jun 02 14:56:36 Naturally, jergul opts for % instead of days, when making a date prediction, because % will taper off after 50, unlike the 4+ months he'll be off.
jergul large member	Wed Jun 02 21:27:47 Forwyn Naturally. The premise is that the US would have trouble vaccinating its population. The actual date I set was arbitrary (sometime after plataeu). I thought the plataeu excluding children was 50%. It is obviously a bit higher.
jergul large member	Wed Jun 02 21:29:25 Ruggy Your update?
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jun 02 21:43:54 "The premise is that the US would have trouble vaccinating its population." Are you vaxxed yet? Lol
jergul large member	Thu Jun 03 02:03:09 Jergul: 50% after January 1st 2022 Ruggy: 50% before January 1st 2022 Sammy: 50% before June 1st 2021 - off 9% (ROFL) Fowyn: 50% before November 1st 2021 Habebe: 50% before July 1st 2021 State Department: 50% by May 19th 2021 - off 12.2% Obam: 50% before May 15th 2021 - off 13.8%
jergul large member	Thu Jun 03 03:19:22 Sammy Ready to spindoctor Pfizer? Is it suddenly a crap German vaccine? (heart inflammation younger males according to Israeli study)
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 03 08:58:52 Pretty sure all the vaccines owe DARPA for funding the MRNA.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 03 10:27:17 Are you vaxxed yet jergul? Lol.
jergul large member	Thu Jun 03 16:21:30 Sammy Wife is fully vaccinated. Not my turn yet.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 03 17:23:01 So... you guys STILL dont have enough vaxxes in europe? Godamn.
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 03 17:45:33 The US I think just gave out 25 million more.
Rugian Member	Thu Jun 03 20:26:45 June 3: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 50.9% % of US fully vaccinated: 41.2% ---- Looks like both metrics have been increasing by an average of 10 bps per day this week. Maybe Bill De Blasio should take his "free Shake Shack for those who get vaccinated" campaign nationwide. I'm sure that'd get the vaccination rates increased by a ton.
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 03 20:57:13 WV is raffling off shotgums and rifles. *Trying to wait for my brother in law to finish rambling his stories, he just came over to drink my last beer, not the first time, who the fuck takes the last one! But now he will act like he was just stopping by to hang out instead of drink some free beer.
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 05 11:06:47 Somehow I don't think its a coincidence that you were thinking about firearms and your brother-in-law in the same post.
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 05 11:16:53 June 4: % of US that has received at least 1 dose: 51.1% (+0.2%) % of US fully vaccinated: 41.4% (+0.2%) ---- The CDC's website also now includes a counter for number of jurisdictions where at least 70% of adults have gotten at least one shot (13). Imo that's a weird statistic to highlight since urban areas make up only a small percentage of total jurisdictions. I think they're setting themselves up to underwhelm there.
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 05 11:35:20 Yeah, maybe not. They can never come over one at a time, its both girls my sister and her husband. They just showed up yesterday at 9 AM and didnt leave until 3:30. I get their AC sucks, but they had so much free money in thenlast year or so, I chose to pay $400 for an industrial AC. They bought lottery tickets, not my fault. I still have $2k in uncashed stimulous checks.Which yeah, I have to vadh them soon. Drunks are annoying. I had him off booze years ago. Admittedly he was snorting meth, but his house was clean and he was doing stuff. He literally just drinks until he falls over, tells.the same.stories from the 1980s 47 thousand times. He broke two of my lawn chairs, like hes bot evem an alcoholic, he is a drunk, definitely more tolerable on speed.
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 05 11:36:59 My June 1st estimate will be cutting it close, definitely in June at the latest it seems. SC is arguing over vaccine lottery.I think 20 100k chances would be better than 2 million dollar ones, but whatever.
jergul large member	Thu Jun 10 09:51:02 ttt
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 10 09:56:26 http://usa.../covid-vaccine-tracker-states/ 43% fully vaxxed and climbing slowly. US corona cases are plumetting.
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 10 10:10:20 7% in 20 days, can it be done?
jergul large member	Sat Jun 12 15:38:13 What is your feeling now?
Forwyn Member	Sat Jun 12 20:02:44 We have so many vaxxes we're giving them away by the tens of millions and still have many in danger of expiring. Lol
jergul large member	Sat Jun 12 23:01:11 lol@not getting those vaccines into American arms.
Forwyn Member	Sat Jun 12 23:29:46 Multimillion lotteries, giveaways, various incentives But we passed 40% and most mandates are going away. Lol@the Nordic idea of just making it mandatory
Seb Member	Sun Jun 13 05:47:02 UK overtook the US on fully vaccinated despite the three month gap strategy in the UK.
Seb Member	Sun Jun 13 05:48:31 Also the US turns out to have anomalously high excess death rates considering its covid death stats. All those families of deniers wanting to make sure Covid wasn't on the death certs.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Jun 13 10:26:54 "UK overtook the US on fully vaccinated despite the three month gap strategy in the UK" But with shitty astrazenca. Look at your case rates. That fucking thing isnt working at all against whatever strain you have now. Jesus christ... not only are you fucked, once word of this gets out your shitty vax will be contributing to antivax feelings that will kill millions. Astrazenca will probably end up doing more damage than trump. Jergul... when your nation finally recieves enough charity from better nations for you to get one, make sure you get an elite american mrna vax and not astrazenca.
Forwyn Member	Sun Jun 13 10:32:38 Congrats, you vaccinated the population of Texas
jergul large member	Sun Jun 13 19:37:54 Sammy Its not charity if we pay for it. Anyways, getting my first shot tomorrow.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 13 19:38:44 Forwyn Its not mandatory here. You must be thinking of North Korea.
Seb Member	Sun Jun 13 21:57:28 Oh mate. The stats are published. The case rates are in the non-fully vaccinated population. What this shows is how vulnerable US remains to variants like Delta given your current vaccination rate.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Jun 14 09:38:47 "Anyways, getting my first shot tomorrow." Congrats. I wont troll you for that.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Jun 14 09:52:41 "The case rates are in the non-fully vaccinated population. " No, seb. You dont get that kind of explosive growth without some vaccine breakthrough. Remember in september when obvious explosive growth was occurring leading to your second wave? We all saw it except you denied it and said eveything was fine? Guess what... your current growth is steeper than that was. Something like 70% of your nation should have some immunity now. Either the indian variant is 4x as virulent or its breaking through your vax more than it should be.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Jun 14 10:25:49 Meanwhile another elite american vax, novavax, is ready to go. The three best vaxes in the world are all US. Duh.
Seb Member	Mon Jun 14 11:02:18 Sam: "No, seb. You dont get that kind of explosive growth without some vaccine breakthrough." The evidence says otherwise. There is a 12 week wait period between first dose and second dose. 56-59 year olds were called for first dose on w/c 8 march. Which means they only started getting their second doses from 31st May. Note those with vulnerabilities etc. will have received doses earlier. This link shows modelled 1st and 2nd dose proportion of each age group. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26 Now, we know that even 1 dose gives strong protection against serious symptoms, and the evidence shows that. Almost none of the patients in hospital have two doses. So this strategy has still been very effective at preventing deaths and reducing severity. This is the latest breakdown of positive tests by age. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19/latestinsights#age As you can see, the vast majority of people testing positive for Covid-19 - the ones driving the new case numbers, are under 50. All the evidence shows that the vaccines are working very effectively at protecting people form the virus - but the full course is needed. In some respect then, this is a vindication for the sequencing rules: we have maximised coverage of protection.
Seb Member	Mon Jun 14 12:04:59 PHE figures: AZ is 92% effective against hospitalisation for delta. Pfizer 96%.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Jun 14 13:27:04 Against delta infections, its 60% for AZ and 90% for pfizer. Big difference.
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