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nhill
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Thu Jul 08 02:49:03 2021
Started trading crypto again for fun. Not doing it to make money. Only using 1-2% max of my holdings (a 5-figure sum, so it's just real enough). Rest is in AAVE and yield farms. Using real money because paper trading is like playing blackjack with fake money. It's just not fun.

All my trades are documented and timestamped in this thread: http://uto...hread=88302&time=1625696725694

Performance
June 29th-July 7th

BTC: -7.02%
nhill: +5.6%

June 29th $BTC price: $35,587
July 7th $BTC price: $33,251

Currently have one open trade, this one on $ETH.

Bought 25% @ $2319
75% @ $2268
Avg price @ $2280

Going long on this trade. I had my stop loss at $2,250 but I took it off. Things are volatile right now.

May the odds be ever in our favor.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 02:50:51 2021
I initially targeted my scale at $2280, but it dipped violently. Oh well, better entry point. Now my average price is $2280, which I find ideal.

Until it's not. ;)
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 02:55:59 2021
http://v3.aggr.trade/be0u

This is a fun site if you're into schadenfreude. The REKTS on the bottom right show people getting liquidated. That happens when a position moves against you while leveraged.

Say I deposit 0.1BTC and open a position buying 1 BTC. Then I'm on 100x leverage. Each tick that goes up I made 100x the money, each tick down I lose 100x the money. Therefore, after it goes down 1%, the exchange has to liquidate that 0.1BTC so they don't go in the negative.

In other words, you're watching a feed of people losing all their money gambling.

Like I said, schadenfreude.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 02:56:57 2021
^meant to type 0.01 BTC in the above example.

If I deposit 0.1 BTC and buy 1BTC I'm on 10X leverage. If BTC drops 10% then I'd get liquidated, in that scenario.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 02:58:00 2021
Why did I get interested in trading again?

Well the market is trading sideways. This makes it very difficult. I like difficulty.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 02:59:59 2021
Normally in a straight up or down market you can lose a bunch and make it up with one good call.

In a sideways market you have to be right >50% of the time and stay disciplined. Most my stop losses are set to small amounts, like 2-3%, and I pare my gains early. My best trade was 3.9%, which is pretty miniscule compared to the types of trades I made last year (many >30%).
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 03:04:23 2021
For anyone new:

I don't invest in cryptocurrency. I use DeFi as my savings account and now am trading a bit of my savings for fun.

I have a robust IRAs and a robust normal portfolio that I manage on M1.

Unlike certain people on here, such as my #1 fan DuckBaby, I post all my receipts.

Here is my current portfolio as of 7/1/2021 (my Q3 portfolio designed to weather stagflation):
http://m1.finance/TXqW-nJ2yMYd
Habebe
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Thu Jul 08 03:05:14 2021
Of course only the Germans have such a word.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 03:06:13 2021
Here is my 15 year time-horizon portfolio that I made for Habebe:
http://m1.finance/DZI0OE3q8yyg

We can check back up on this one in 15 years and see how well I did. It's what I would invest in if I wasn't allowed to make any tweaks for 15 years.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 03:06:42 2021
> Of course only the Germans have such a word.

I know, right. :D
Habebe
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Thu Jul 08 03:06:50 2021
Sweet
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 08:32:51 2021
Made two bad calls today. Closed my short too early and went long too early. Wasn’t seeing definitive volume either way, so I tried a Fibonacci retracement on ETH. Shucks. Should have stuck to the levels. I’m leaving the ETH long open for now, going to bed.
Nimatzo
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Thu Jul 08 13:20:45 2021
I am so disappointed that after almost 20 years we have not received one investment advice from the Dukhat. Not ONE. And he supposedly retired because he was so great at making money.
Dukhat
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Thu Jul 08 16:14:57 2021
lol. I literally spend 80+ hours a week analyzing the markets. Why the fuck would I share any of that knowledge with you fucktards? You haven't even done the homework to understand the basics about pricing assets. And it was easy to see that Bitcoin and all crypto was headed down after China cracked down on it. China's responsible for over 60% of the supply and a shit ton of the demand too due to all the desperate peasants throwing their life savings into the pyramid scheme.

I even gave you the best advice to avoid losing money which was not to listen to Nhil. So congrats for being dumbasses and listening to some obsessed idiot who made one lucky gamble.

I'm not doing your fucking homework for you.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 16:30:38 2021
> not to listen to Nhil.

Then you told people to invest in crypto before the crash. RIP.

> I literally spend 80+ hours a week analyzing the markets.

80+ hours a week down the drain. Pathetic. Another LARPer that makes claims but has no receipts.
Dukhat
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Thu Jul 08 16:35:19 2021
LoL, all you do is make stuff up when you're called on your bullshit.

I literally said that I had bought some due to a friend's advice at the end of last year and had already sold off a large portion by the time of your first idiotic post around may.

You're such an obsessed piece of shit.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 16:40:51 2021
Triggered, again. Tells me all I need to know.

Timestamps and links all posted above. Nothing to make up when you're transparent.

Again, receipts. Grow a pair and show your own, my little puppet. All you do is talk shit on the sideline, and you're terrible at that.

Maybe give your "smart investment friends" your login?
Nimatzo
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Thu Jul 08 18:21:21 2021
”80+ hours”

Financially independent and working like a slave.
Nimatzo
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Thu Jul 08 18:37:08 2021
But it was a trick question, you don’t have any advice to give. Who would think you would lurk in Nhills crypto threads though.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 18:54:02 2021
Duck Tales
http://i.imgur.com/BBcQNHN.png
Nimatzo
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Thu Jul 08 18:57:41 2021
Nhill

I think you were right about the trading, patience. It went down.

Also, I think I will make my trading on longer increment hours -> days, this is inherently more patient :) That means holding for longer, but that works for me since I believe in the asset long term, don't consider it negative that I at the end of the day have less USD, but more BTC (or whatever crypto).
Nimatzo
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Thu Jul 08 18:58:43 2021
http://i.imgur.com/BBcQNHN.png

lol dude, you can make that into an NFT.
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 19:15:53 2021
> I think you were right about the trading, patience. It went down.

Yep, agreed. Made the right call on the levels but got spooked out by the volume. Overthinking things.

Booked a 0.6% profit shorting when it could have been a 5% profit if I did what I said and played it level to level.

OTOH, first week back into it and got a bit of alpha. Could be worse. Always be learnin'

> lol dude, you can make that into an NFT.

lmao
Nimatzo
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Thu Jul 08 21:00:13 2021
You know, every other finance guru or successful people, they write books and give talks and spread their accumulated knowledge, or they come to UP and make threads and spread their knowledge ;), but not do-your-own-homework-Dukhat. You stink of failure.

Nhill
I have been inspired by your M1 portfolio and rearranged our savings, makes sense the things you say. Thanks!
nhill
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Thu Jul 08 21:03:21 2021
Sure thing!
nhill
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Fri Jul 09 15:38:39 2021
Board was down last night. Added to my position at $2052, average price is now $2166. I’ll grab a screenshot proving it.
nhill
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Fri Jul 09 17:43:01 2021
http://i.imgur.com/QWc6hOV.png

Here's the receipt. I'm in CDT, so you can check the price last night at 8:12 CDT and see that I bought $21,466.33 worth of Ethereum at a price of $2052.82.
nhill
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Fri Jul 09 18:38:47 2021
Update:

Performance
June 29th-July 9th

BTC: -6%
nhill: +5.62%

Still have an open trade on $ETH. It's a bad one... only up 0.2% on a 2-day trade and it was down as much as -11% yesterday. Oops.

http://i.k..._2020-01-14_at_10.34.57_AM.jpg
nhill
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Fri Jul 09 18:41:16 2021
Should have respected my stop loss, it was there for a reason. Could have turned this trade into a 5.6% win if I had left in my stop loss. Instead it's a 0.2% nothing burger.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 01:59:07 2021
Closing @ $2050.

Made a grand total of nothing and now it's the weekend.

Most likely won't make any moves on the weekend unless it goes up a lot. Then I'll short.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:03:07 2021
$2150 that is.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:08:56 2021
Also we closed with bullish volume, so I'd be willing to go long on a dump too.

I'm leaning bearish overall, I'd say a 65% chance of seeing sub 30K numbers at this point. 30% chance of it getting all the way down to 20K or even lower.

That's why I'd short if it bounced this weekend, but the Friday close being bullish is why I'd also buy the dip. Hope that makes sense to everyone.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:12:57 2021
Open @ $2319 (starter position, 25%)
Scaled @ $2268 (full position, 75%)
Dollar Cost Averaged @ $2050 (2x my normal position, so ~2% of my holdings)
Total Average Price @ $2166
Sold @ $2050
Profit @ -0.07%

Lost some dough on this one, but turning a profit of +5.53% so far from June 29th-July 9th.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:13:34 2021
Sold @ $2150 I mean. This was Ethereum, go ahead and cross-check the prices.
Nimatzo
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Sat Jul 10 02:18:38 2021
Nice.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:20:07 2021
Worth noting that the S&P 500 is up 1.8% in the same time period (June 29th-July 9th).
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:23:32 2021
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 02:24:15 2021
Oops, accidentally clicked the reply button with an empty post as I was cross-referencing to make sure my numbers here were accurate.

> Nice.

Thank you sir.
Nimatzo
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Sat Jul 10 16:40:56 2021
Barclays first and now Santander. It is from what I understand limited to the UK, but it doesn't seem to have had any effect on the market.
nhill
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Sat Jul 10 21:37:27 2021
I think the general consensus is that people will find a way to buy if they want to buy.
Nimatzo
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Sat Jul 10 23:30:13 2021
I support the calls for regulation, but this also serves as two case studies in why DeFi and crypto are needed.
nhill
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Sun Jul 11 00:38:22 2021
Yup. Nice thing about DeFi is, for most projects, no single corporation can decide how you use the system. Even the corporation that created the system needs community consensus to implement a change. The code executes.

That’s another reason why I like Liquity. They even removed the ability for it to ever change.

Liquity will work the same way it does now until the end of time. I’m a big fan of immutability.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 00:34:21 2021
Short @ 34389
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 00:44:04 2021
Stop Loss @ 35300
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 14:14:27 2021
Covering @ 33583
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 14:16:27 2021
Open @ 34389
Close @ 33583
Profit @ +2.4%

Another win for the home team.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 14:22:43 2021
Happy to short again on a bounce today if we get it.
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 15:33:50 2021
Ok but first let it drop to 32-31.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 16:58:02 2021
Haha. Sure thing. Been busy today, it did bounce briefly above 33600, but I missed it.

Oh well. I don't underestimate the compound effect of these 2-3% wins. :) You can turn $10,000 into around $300,000 by booking a 1% trade each day.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 16:58:42 2021
Each day for a year, I mean. 365 days of 1% wins will turn $10,000 into $300,000.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 17:21:39 2021
Shorting again at $33468
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 17:28:22 2021
My uncle has a friend, who allegedly has a so call BTC whale as business partner, they trade. He has also invested some money with them for day trading, I am wondering if I should as well.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 17:41:02 2021
Depends on how much you trust them and how much better they can do it than you. Plus fees, taxes, etc.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 17:42:56 2021
Whales (those with over 1,000 BTC is the common definition) have advantages and disadvantages. They have enough money to move the price which can change sentiment. But it can also cause slippage where there's not enough liquidity to fill a trade.

I'm not super familiar with it.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 17:50:44 2021
At the very least, I would ask them questions about how they handle slippage and their trading process.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 17:51:49 2021
But overall, the "uncle's friend investing" type of stories reek of a scam and loss of money IMO.
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 18:09:20 2021
All concerns I have voiced, but they have a legit company and this friend is actually someone our family knows from way back. He is the son of my fathers (my uncle is on my mothers side) old friend, we knew them in Iran. He is already doing it for his parents as well and my uncle would most likely kill him if he scamed him ;), they are very close friends.

With all that said, I can still see how such an operations can go down in flames and bring friends and family down with it. That’s me though, there is no plan great enough where I can not imagine it turn into an ash pile.
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 18:10:25 2021
As for myself, I still have a day job, but now I am off until the end of august and trying to teach myself. Sed how that goes :)
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 18:48:42 2021
Close @ 33147
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 18:50:55 2021
Open @ 33468
Close @ 33147
Profit @ +1%

Still waiting for a real bounce I can short. :|

Nim

Sounds like you're thinking about it properly, then. :)
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 21:31:49 2021
Where is the bottom, buy now or be patient, that is the question.
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 21:34:46 2021
I don't know the jargon, but that is the 4th time the price hits the moving average and drops.
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 21:35:41 2021
on the 15 min timer that is.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 21:57:08 2021
Nim

That’s a great question, and is why I play things level to level with a probability bias. It helps guide the answer in a more profitable way. It’s my system, and it works well for me. There are people that have success with other systems. The key is finding one that suits you and your psychology.

I’ll go more in depth later, coding right now.
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 22:10:38 2021
Long @ 32684
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 22:11:38 2021
You got me staring at the charts, how dare you. So many distractions. Now I'm going back to coding.
Nimatzo
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Mon Jul 12 22:18:00 2021
:)
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 23:50:00 2021
Close @ 32952

Not seeing the right volume
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 23:55:13 2021
Open @ 32684
Close @ 32952
Profit @ +0.8%
nhill
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Mon Jul 12 23:57:40 2021
Performance
June 29th-July 12th

BTC: -7.9%
nhill: +9.73%

Starting to really get some alpha here.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 00:49:08 2021
Shorting @ 33063

Looks like a double top just popped.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 01:06:58 2021
Putting a tight stop of 33147 on this one because we are getting dangerously close to the bottom of the range.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 01:22:36 2021
Exit @ 33130
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 01:24:11 2021
Open @ 33063
Close @ 33130
Profit @ -0.2%

Always try to keep your wins bigger than your losses :)
Nimatzo
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Tue Jul 13 01:25:37 2021
in at 32730
out at 33050
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 01:27:47 2021
long? nice
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 04:10:50 2021
Short @ $33196

Actually thought this order didn't go through. Will have to post a receipt tonight as I made it 10 minutes ago so if you check now I'd be lying ;)
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 04:14:31 2021
Closing @ $33093

Going to watch a show with the kids. Just a little scalp.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 04:16:02 2021
Open @ 33196
Close @ 33093
Profit @ +0.3%

Revenge traded to balance out my last loss :P
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 04:20:07 2021
Receipt: http://i.imgur.com/c37nnrS.png
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 04:21:06 2021
Borrowed the $WBTC from AAVE, sold it short, then rebought it back cheaper and paid back my debt. Shorting the manual way ;)
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 05:26:19 2021
Hmm I didn’t get as much profit as I expected, because of the 0.116% fee for using the DEX. Will have to deduct that from each trade retroactively to determine profitability.

Maybe I’ll start trading on Binance. It’s only risking 1-2% of my crypto. Looks like it charges 0.075% for spot and even less for futures. Something to think about, but for now I’ll have to stop doing these mini scalps.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 05:29:48 2021
I have to deduct 2.552% from my profit margins for fees.

I'm +7.28% counting fees. +9.73% on raw performance.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 07:57:08 2021
Longing $ETH here at $1980
Nimatzo
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Tue Jul 13 11:42:56 2021
Forgott to say it, but yea long. I followed you and waited a bit longer :)
Nimatzo
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Tue Jul 13 11:45:52 2021
I have been doing the trading on binance.
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 16:13:19 2021
Cool cool. I'm going to wait on this one a while, even if it dips sub $1700 like I think it could. I'll dollar cost average it if that happens.
Nimatzo
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Tue Jul 13 20:09:21 2021
Dude, if it hits 1700, I am buying more regardless :D
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
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Tue Jul 13 20:59:06 2021
20k heer we cum and eth to 800 wit it rofl enjoy ur 1700
nhill
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Tue Jul 13 22:07:30 2021
We can only hope. Clearly it’ll bounce back up to the range if you have half a brain.
Nimatzo
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Tue Jul 13 22:26:50 2021
800 and I am betting the barn, the house, the whole farm.
nhill
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Wed Jul 14 01:43:29 2021
Osama only comes outta the woodwork just long enough to be proven wrong and look like an idiot again. Then he'll disappear until the next red day. Similar to LARPing idiots like Dukhat.

Ethereum will never be under $1200 again. Sorry bub, you missed your opportunity. Just weren't smart enough to see the trends.

Bitcoin can definitely go under 20K (about 30% chance IMO), but we'll never see it under 15K again.
Nimatzo
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Wed Jul 14 02:10:37 2021
He probably is Dukhat.
nhill
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Wed Jul 14 02:12:17 2021
Fair point.
Nimatzo
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Wed Jul 14 02:12:57 2021
Nhill
From what I have been seeing the past few weeks ETH is more volatile than BTC. Is it understood why that is?
nhill
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Wed Jul 14 02:18:17 2021
Yes, that same reason why Dow Jones Industrial Average tends to be less volatile than the S&P 500.

Bitcoin is the strongest asset in bear markets because it has greater institutional support.

That's why I generally only trade $BTC and showed you that chart when I was asked why I don't trade $ETH right now.

I want to accumulate Ethereum at the lowest price possible, but trade Bitcoin to get there.

http://i.imgur.com/470O4B0.png

Bitcoin is for bears, Ethereum is for bulls.
nhill
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Wed Jul 14 02:19:19 2021
Right now we are in a bear market. I will trade $BTC in the range, and keep trying to snipe Ethereum at the low end of the range.

$MATIC is also a steal right now.
nhill
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Wed Jul 14 02:20:16 2021
Think of it this way.

Bitcoin == Dow Jones Industrial Average
Ethereum == Nasdaq 100 / S&P 500
All Other Coins == Individual Stocks

This is the proper mindset to view the ecosystem.
nhill
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Wed Jul 14 02:22:00 2021
If you want to go deeper, and look at the root the other reason is because EIP-1599 is around the corner soon.

Ethereum is mutable by design. It changes frequently.

Bitcoin doesn't change. It'll be more stable. It's not a bad investment, necessarily. But if you look at the performance difference between $QQQ and $DIA over the years, you'll see why I don't own any.
Rugian
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Wed Jul 14 02:22:37 2021
I viewed your girlfriend's ecosystem
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