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Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 12:22:40
Okay, the optics of executing women in soccer stadiums was never great, and I've always hated how they blew up the Banyan statues.

But think for a minute of what they've been fighting against...a deeply degenerate and morally bankrupt Western World that peddles depravity like this:

"Kids as Young as Four Can Now Change Gender in Scottish Schools Without Parental Consent

BY EMMA MAYER ON 8/12/21 AT 5:19 PM EDT

Children in Scotland as young as four years old are now able to change their names and genders at schools without requiring parental consent, The Telegraph reported.

A 70-page document issued on Thursday states that under new LGBTQ+ inclusivity guidelines created by the Scottish government, teachers are now urged not to question their students if they indicate a wish to transition genders. Instead, teachers are urged to ask for the students' new names and pronouns.

Along with these guidelines, schools have been told that transgender students should use whatever bathroom or locker room they prefer. The creation of more gender-neutral uniforms and inclusion of transgender characters in lessons and reading materials are being developed.

John Swinney, the deputy first minister, said in a statement in July that Scotland is already considered one of the most progressive nations in Europe.

"I am delighted to announce we will be the first country in the world to have LGBTI inclusive education embedded within the curriculum," he said last month.

The guidelines state that there is no age requirement for "coming out," and the views and requests of the young people should be respected—even if the students do not want their parents to be informed.

"A transgender young person may not have told their family about their gender identity," the official document states. "Inadvertent disclosure could cause needless stress for the young person or could put them at risk and breach legal requirements. Therefore, it is best to not share information with parents or carers without considering and respecting the young person's views and rights."

Advocacy groups have shared their support for the latest guidance, saying that the new policies would help students "thrive."

Colin Macfarlane, Director of Stonewall Scotland and Northern Ireland, a U.K.-based organization supporting LGBTQ+ rights, told Newsweek, "Trans students deserve to be taught in a safe and inclusive environment, which is why the Scottish Government's updated guidance on supporting trans young people in schools is so important. We hope that this resource empowers teachers and schools across Scotland to better support all young people to thrive, both inside and outside the classroom."

http://www...thout-parental-consent-1618942
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 12:24:27
Against the decadent sickness of the West, perhaps a bunch of Islamic fundies who advocate faith in God and traditional values aren't the worst thi g in the world.
Hrothgar
Member
Sun Aug 15 12:47:11
Rugian willing to live under Shira law because he is appalled by official recognition that a tiny number of elementary kids feel emotionally like a different sex than their genitals indicate.

There has always been a few people who feel this way from childhood on up. But officially recognizing this situation - "oh fuck no, that's too much, bring in the Taliban"!
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 13:01:44
Horthgar

We are talking about 4 year olds here. God love them, but they have no idea about anything at that age.

This is nothing short of a government program that encourages kids who are barely older than toddlers to become trans, and denying their parents any role whatsoever in the process (the article says that parents shouldn't even be informed if the "trans" kid says so ffs!)

I don't know what sort of extremist material you're reading over there in Utah that makes you think this is at all acceptable on any level, but it's honestly fucked up that you think this is okay.
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 13:06:49
Incidentally, for anyone confused as to why you should support universal pre-K, this is why.

Leftists want to start indoctrinating your children as early as possible. Universal pre-K isn't about supporting working parents, it's about giving the LGBT mafia and statist propagandists access to your child's impressionable mind to play with as they please.
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 13:07:14
Fucking auto correct

"Shouldn't support pre-k"
Seb
Member
Sun Aug 15 13:26:52
Rugian here, desperately trying to demonstrate the difference between trumpists and religious fundamentalism.
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 13:34:05
Seb here, thinks you need to be a Trumpist to believe that the state being able to turn your 4 year old kid into a tranny without your knowledge and/or consent is fucked up.

Maybe the pushback from the right wouldn't be so extreme if the left didn't constantly push completely insane shit like this.
Seb
Member
Sun Aug 15 15:09:56
Rugian:

Calling a child a different name if they ask won't turn them into a transsexual, any more than letting them go to school in the first place will turn them into tools of the devil of whatever bullshit the Taleban believe in.

You need a sense of proportion.



Paramount
Member
Sun Aug 15 15:14:07
”Children in Scotland as young as four years old are now able to change their names and genders at schools without requiring parental consent, The Telegraph reported.”


Are the teachers going to give female hormone pills to 4 year old boys, without the consent of the parents?
Seb
Member
Sun Aug 15 15:24:45
Paramount: no, they will not be having medical intervention to change their sex.
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 15:28:38
Seb

Convincing a child that doesn't even yet have a vocabulary of 500 words to deadname themselves is not normal.

This isn't about Sam waking up one day and deciding he likes the name Lenny instead. This is about pushing transgenderism on four year olds. Four year olds!

And why exactly should the parents be excluded from having any rights in this process? Riddle me that, Batman.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 15 15:40:47
it's not about 4-year-olds, it's a general school policy, so news media does what it does & focuses on the extremes to get eyeballs

and it's only passive guidelines (so they don't need to be followed in all cases), & there's no active encouragement
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 15:42:00
Tumbleweed

You just contradicted yourself in less than a sentence, congrats.
Seb
Member
Sun Aug 15 16:01:30
Rugian:

Rugian, you are completely insane.

The article is very clear, it simply requires that teachers use the name and pronoun that a child requests, and to consider the child's wishes with regard to talking about that fact with the parent.

And of course, it applies to "4 year olds" only insofar as 4 year olds go to school.

Do you really think four year old Bobby is going to be going "Teacher, please, my preferred pronoun is Xi".

The idea this is teachers encouraging transgender is absurd. They are just required not to actively obstruct it.

Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 16:05:17
Seb

It is not normal for a 4 year old boy to start thinking he is a girl. If he does, that should be discouraged.

"The idea this is teachers encouraging transgender is absurd."

Yes, because as we all know, teachers are famously apolitical and don't have any sort of reputation for pushing their political ideology on students.

Now who is completely detached from reality Seb?
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 16:07:07
"And of course, it applies to "4 year olds" only insofar as 4 year olds go to school."

Which, again, proves why universal pre-K should not be a thing.
Forwyn
Member
Sun Aug 15 16:20:01
Lots of apologists cucking for child tranny brainwashing in here, lulz
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 16:23:57
Seb

There is a right way and a wrong way to react to a 4 year old engaging in this type of behavior.

Wrong way: "Oh wow Sally, that's a lovely new name you have there. Let's enter this into your record so that the Scottish education system can foster your new identity over the next fourteen years and encourage you to make your eventual gender transition. Putting you on this life-altering path is totally rational based on this one silly week you were having where you called yourself a girl's name. Oh and by the way, your parents have no say in this, fuck those guys.

Right way: "Sam, enough. No desert for you until stop it with the Sally nonsense."
Rugian
Member
Sun Aug 15 16:32:12
Forwyn

The sad part is that these people don't even realize how radicalized they've become.

If we were having this conversation in 1996, there isn't a single person here that would say "yeah, it's cool to encourage 4 year olds to explore transgenderism." Every last person here would be firmly against it.

Hell, we probably wouldn't have even had the conversation back then, because it would have been considered so utterly ridiculous. But if we had, not a single UPer would have been for it.

Fast forward a few years though, and now you have UP's leftists giving a full-throated defense of something that they themselves would have previously thought insane.

It's kind of fascinating, really. Not just their political beliefs, but their entire moral framework, changes from year to year.

Meanwhile, those of us who have always been consistent on these matters are condemned for engaging in "culture wars" when we push back against this nonsense.
Seb
Member
Sun Aug 15 18:00:53
Rugian:

"It is not normal for a 4 year old boy to start thinking he is a girl. If he does, that should be discouraged."

What's the right age.

"Yes, because as we all know, teachers are famously apolitical"

The reds are under the bed. Everywhere!

"Which, again, proves why universal pre-K should not be a thing."

Another thing the Taliban have got right yeah?

"Sam, enough. No desert for you until stop it with the Sally nonsense."

You feel so threatened by a teacher calling a kid "the wrong name" you advocate the school refusing them food.

This is more about your insecurities here.
Seb
Member
Sun Aug 15 18:05:05
Also, this relentless argument that this encourages kids to be transgender.

What you are actually saying is that anything less than the school using coercive powers and punishments on kids that wasn't to be recognised as a different gender is "encouragement".

Schools aren't here to help you try and coerce people into behaving in line with your norms. They are there to educate, and if a kid decides they want to be called Sally not Sam, then I don't see what business it is of the school to take upon itself the role of policing that.

You libertarians are hilarious.

And this clinging to "4 year olds", 4 year olds don't announce that are transgender.

Anyway, stick to Ameristan, Scotland doesn't need or care for your opinion.
Forwyn
Member
Sun Aug 15 18:27:29
"the school using coercive powers and punishments on kids"

Yeah, those will be saved for the kids who don't use imaginative pronouns and/or inform parents of the tranny coddling occurring in the classroom
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Aug 15 19:03:01
some 4-year-old boy who thinks he wants to be a girl isn't going to do it just to be called a girl's name, he'll be wanting it to wear dresses or play w/ dolls or something, neither of which relevant to these guidelines

this shit has nothing to do w/ 4-year-olds & will have no impact on them
Sam Adams
Member
Sun Aug 15 20:18:02
The taliban wont try to expose your 7 year old to transgender sex shows.

Its a plus, for sure.
Sam Adams
Member
Sun Aug 15 21:05:41
"Why cant we get the afganis to fight for us" ask the same people who did this:

http://mob...bul/status/1400060130243362816
Habebe
Member
Sun Aug 15 22:08:04
"The taliban wont try to expose your 7 year old to transgender sex shows.

Its a plus, for sure."

-Over here dieing...
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Aug 15 22:48:31
[Forwyn]: "Lots of apologists cucking for child tranny brainwashing in here, lulz"

It's a re-litigation of an issue in Plato's "Symposium". They question whether it's appropriate to essentially have boy sex slaves, and the pederasts justify it by saying that their pederasty helps to guide the boys to what the boys one day might want (i.e., if the boys enable the pederasts today, then when the boys no longer amuse the pederasts, the boys will still be assured a "formal" education). Those in the Symposium against pederasty explain that this is taking advantage of people who have not yet learned reason and choice. The pederasts say that their pederasty requires the boys to be young, so if they wait for the boys to develop reason, then the pederasts will never get to take advantage of the youth and will not be incentivized to "guide" them (think of the pederasts!).

This fits for the pinko propaganda machine. They want access to the youth again — before reason has taken hold — and that means getting the abusers back in power over the youth. By creating distinct groups within the youth, there can be an abused class divided from the herd for easier control. Division into cultural groups also allows for slave morality (alternate, cynical moralities) to develop more easily — cynical moralities being antithetical to their own freedoms. Children all want special treatment, so they'll accept the new conditioning if it means the teacher's eyes twinkle when they declare that they feel like Apache Attack Helicopters. Naturally, this abdication of reason and the permanent scarring of child abuse (abuse delays maturation) comes from parties that likewise want to decrease the voting age.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 01:49:24
Forwyn:

"Yeah, those will be saved for the kids who don't use imaginative pronouns and/or inform parents of the tranny coddling occurring in the classroom"

No basis for claiming this at all.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 01:52:56
Sam:

That definitely isn't happening here, but fucked up sexualised child beauty contests are an all-American thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_beauty_pageant
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 01:58:11
Oh look, CC the shit controversialist is wheeling out the "thing that gives me the yuckies is comparable to paedophilia" line. Like when homosexuality was legalised, then gay marriage ... we will never get tired of this bullshit line.

Yes, obviously the non abusive thing a school should do is e.g. tell a fundamentalist parent that their kid is gender non-conformist so they can be sent off to be cured to mature them.

Try harder.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 07:13:33
Seb is the same guy who thinks social expectations for children to hug their grand parents is priming them to obey adult molesters. Are there any surprises here?
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 07:15:42
Nim is the kind of guy that benefits from being a refugee but believes he comes from a country that is genetically and culturally primed to abuse women.

(Yes, we can all be like Sam and make stupid, dishonest, and easily disproved comments about character - a meaningful and sensible use of everyone's time)
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 07:16:44
Nim:

"Don't tell children about bodily autonomy and consent or the fabric of society will breakdown!!!"

Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 08:22:26
Nimatzo
"Is the lesson here that granny's hugs and kisses are on the same continuum of consent and concern as getting molested by the football coach?"

Seb
"No, it's on the theory that the expectation you have to comply to please others when they demand to touch your body is a learned behaviour.

Getting kids comfortable that they can say no in certain situations when an adult demands that, long before you teach them about sex, is a great way to minimise grooming risk etc."

He says no and then goes on to explain what I asked about in the affirmative. LOL :) dolt.

Also, I have always maintained that I come from a noble people genetically, but obviously culture matters. You know culture being idea complexes and some idea being shittier than others, like thinking the social norms around greeting relatives increases the risk of getting groomed.

But then again, Iranians are not a concern for anyone anywhere as far as rape goes. In Sweden it has been Afghans (child molesting has become part of the culture in Afghanistan).
Have a read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Do you think a cultural phenomena like that matters for producing future molesters and rapists?

Another angle is that it is OK for seb to look at his own people and culture and identify past or present shitty behavior ingrained in the culture, misogyny, racism, etc. but not for me.

Yet another thing to point out is that seb doesn't think culture or genes matter, in Seb's world things just happen randomly for no reason.

That you managed to say so many stupid things in so few words, is impressive.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 08:30:34
Nim:

A can help mitigate B is not logically equivalent to saying absence of A is the cause of B.

You are stupid. And you operate in bad-faith. And you are only interested in Argumentum Ad-Hominem. Go and play with Sam Adams.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 08:42:32
A has nothing to with B, you need to get my position correct before you can call me stupid and acting in bad faith.

Seriously save me your waaaa ad hominem bullshit. I just tore into the "substance" (lol) of your "argument" and called you an idiot. The two are related in my opinion, idiots say the darnedest things. I appreciate the fact that for someone who just discounted culture and genes to explain human behavior, that will not make sense, but yes, the stupid things you say are a product of your stupid character. Either you are LARPing or you actually are this stupid.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 08:44:24
*Your character being the product of your inferior genes that leaves your brain helpless and readily hijacked by novel social contagion.
obaminated
Member
Mon Aug 16 09:04:39
The funny thing is parafag and his like are gleefully watching this because america failed and morons like him don't realize or understand bad things. He lives in a bubble. We are going to, or hear about, horrifying things that happen to women under the taliban. Parafag isn't a serious person and he survives when times are safe, when shit goes sideways he drowns.
obaminated
Member
Mon Aug 16 09:06:28
I'm sorry I thought this was a serious thread about the taliban, rugian was trolling the whole time
Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 16 10:02:54
"No basis for claiming this at all."

LOL Seb

Your courts have issued ASBOs for:

Displaying a sign in public saying "Stop homosexuality, Jesus is Lord"

Training a dog to stick his paw up in the air at certain phrases

Posting the word "nigga" from song lyrics in a memorial to a friend

Here is a Scottish district defining misgendering as "Gender Identity and Transphobic Bullying"

http://www...181/Full%20Public%20Agenda.pdf

But sure Seb, cling to the retarded notion that misgendering isn't already considered bullying and will be treated in a punitive, and eventually criminal manner.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 10:28:22
Nim:

"A has nothing to with B, you need to get my position correct before you can call me stupid and acting in bad faith."

You are attacking my position, not vice versa, it's clear you are determined to misrepresent mine. Or are a moron. Or, why not, both!

"save me your waaaa ad hominem bullshit."
No. Your main goal, as it always is these days, to try and prove character deficiency rather than address the point, and it drives a consistent attempt to try and reframe and misrepresent positions to do so. It's dishonest and a reason it holds a place as one of the formal fallacies.

"I appreciate the fact that for someone who just discounted culture and genes to explain human behavior,"

You can't help yourself can you, it's reflexive. All that micro dosing really did addle your brain. I can even explicitly label a line of reasoning as dishonest and fallacious, you then take it as gospel, and even then do a sic propter fallacy.

Forwyn:

Bit of a bait and switch - so when you said "don't use imaginative pronouns of inform their parents" what you meant was specifically children who bully other children.

Yes, bullying tends to get punished.



Forwyn
Member
Mon Aug 16 11:36:48
Which comes down to the semantics of bullying, and we all knew you were going to agree that it's bullying, so why act retarded about it?
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 12:23:33
Seb
"You are attacking my position"

I see you have given up all pretense of coherency. Attacking your position or not, I was correcting you.

"you then take it as gospel"

So, you agree that the inferiority of certain behavior is cultural and/or genetic?
Sam Adams
Member
Mon Aug 16 12:48:35
"That definitely isn't happening here, but fucked up sexualised child beauty contests are"

The far left is definitely spreading degenerative transgender bullshit... but i do agree that child beauty pagents are also bullshit, mostly attended by sex offenders are retards.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 13:42:36
Forwyn:

Because "not using imaginative pronouns" and "inform parents of the tranny coddling occurring in the classroom" do not necessarily encompass bullying.

For example, if one child in conversation to a third party referred to a transgender child by the wrong pro-noun, that would not necessarily be bullying.

And the latter, as far as I can see, isn't a matter for the school or criminal courts; but could be for a teacher - and rightly so. For example, you would not expect a teacher to report on a child's professed sexual orientation of a child to a parent - absent any particular other need to do so - for safeguarding reasons. Unless there is a particular reason the need arises to do so (say the kid has been found having underage sex on grounds for example), it's not the teachers job, and it could pose a risk to the child if for example they have an American conservative parent that might try to beat the gay out of them. So yes, I expect there are circumstances where a teacher talking about a child declaring themselves trans to a parent without good cause that results in some kind of abuse would find themselves the wrong end of a disciplinary process regarding a breach of safeguarding rules. But this is a fairly niche and contrived situation; rather than a hard and fast rule.

As for the former, it would only be a school disciplinary issue if the individual was deliberately and persistently doing so such that the school felt the intent was bullying.

As a point of comparison: would you would also be against disciplining a child who repeatedly and continually called a guy with a deformed leg deformed on the basis it is factually true, or would you be comfortable that accepting whether the child on the receiving end is deformed or not is irrelevant to whether this constitutes bullying?

Obviously not.

The point is you haven't thought this through at all.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 13:45:16
Nim:

It's very simple, you randomly brought up a critique of a position from an entirely different thread, which you misrepresented and pointed out both misrepresentation and the logical flaw in your critique.

You can't whine that I'm misrepresenting your position - you are the one attempting and failing to critique mine. Kindly fuck off, you are both boring and stupid and I don't see the point in engaging with someone who isn't addressing the substance but engaged in some quixotic personal vendetta.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 13:46:07
Nim:

"So, you agree that the inferiority of certain behavior is cultural and/or genetic?"

In your case, possibly a combination of drug abuse and being dropped on the head as a child.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 13:46:39
Or all of the above. Who can say.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 15:12:50
Deflecting, because you already know where this will go.

You either believe what I wrote, and you are this caricature of an idiot, or you agree with me and the whole attempt to use it as an insult implodes. Though it is much worse I am afraid, no one on this forum has lamented the inferiority of his own people and culture and how it has historically and still today primed it's members to sexually, physically and verbally abuse and disenfranchise women and minorities, than you! That makes the attempted insult fall even flatter! This is how we know you are insincere about social justice issues. It is OK to talk about rape culture among white British people or Americans, but not for someone who has "benefited from being a refugee". What a truly cring worthy thing to say.

"personal vendetta"

I'm sorry you feel that way, but you are not paying attention to the context and wallowing in narcissism. You are one of the prolific posters on this forum, with many opinions that you share with us, you will get push back. As for the ad homs, I tried the other way and lost count how many times you were the one who started it. So I assume we are playing by the same set of rules. If you can't handle it, then you should fuck off somewhere else or shut the fuck up.
Seb
Member
Mon Aug 16 15:47:37
Nim:

Ignoring and mocking because as I've said, you have made it apparent in the last few threads you are not acting in good faith.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Aug 16 16:07:21
Rekt.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Aug 16 23:12:04
Tucker agreeing w/ Rugian's premise
http://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1427424841662074880
Paramount
Member
Tue Aug 17 09:09:04
Maybe the Taliban are not so bad after all? I’m not gonna go so far as Rugian and say that they are the good guys, but listen to this:



Taliban announce ‘amnesty,’ urge women to join government

“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan with full dignity and honesty has announced a complete amnesty for all Afghanistan, especially those who were with the opposition or supported the occupiers for years and recently,” he said.



“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan doesn’t want the women to be the victims anymore,” he said. “The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is ready to provide women with environment to work and study, and the presence of women in different (government) structures according to Islamic law and in accordance with our cultural values.”


http://apn...4b052ccef113adc8dc94f965ff23c7


"A general amnesty has been declared for all... so you should start your routine life with full confidence," said a statement from the Taliban.

https://afp.omni.se/taliban-announce-general-amnesty-for-govt-officials-statement/a/EabkAa


That’s it. People can go back to work and carry on with their lives.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Aug 17 22:02:54
"Afghanistan finally liberated from a regime that imposes mandatory face coverings, destroys statues, and promotes the genital mutilation of children"

Rofl yikes.
Habebe
Member
Tue Aug 17 22:13:04
Paramount, Mabey thats a positive side effect of 20 years of relatively liberal regime.
Seb
Member
Wed Aug 18 02:24:34
Paramount:

It's PR for the regime - they just want to wait for the foreign correspondents to get out before they really let rip. Three of the more high profile women's rights activists my wife's network are trying to get out had their houses shot up yesterday.

Y2A
Member
Wed Aug 18 19:18:38
looks like the Taliban is part of the "CNN sucks" crowd. What will zombie Mohammed Omar have to say at the RNC? Go hard on transgenders in sports?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfbS_8K-a7g
Y2A
Member
Wed Aug 18 19:22:08
their flag is boring as hell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Afghanistan
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Aug 18 22:17:38
"looks like the Taliban is part of the "CNN sucks" crowd."

Its a big club. You can join.
Rugian
Member
Thu Aug 19 14:27:43
A better question is who ISNT part of the CNN sucks crowd.

So far I have airport operators, people living inside the I-495, nursing home residents who lost their remotes, Andrew Cuomo, and of course tumbleweed.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Aug 20 10:21:06
Here is a youtube comment I just read:

"If you ever feel useless just remember. It took 20 years, 4 presidents, and Trillions of dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban"
Turtle Crawler
Admin
Mon Aug 23 22:47:44
The US financial aid came with strings regarding women and such things as are counter to their religion (or any decent religion), which practically guaranteed the failure of the government. It was essentially designed to fail. All in the name of progressivism.
nhill
Member
Tue Aug 24 03:32:02
It's the same shit these clueless elites tried in Iraq. La dee dah, let's go across the world and institute our preferred form of government. Should be trivial, right? durrrrr.

Such dumbassery, start to finish, from Bush to Biden, and every twat in between. Tells you that it doesn't take any brains to be in the ruling class. All it takes is a massive bank roll and a hubris to match it.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Aug 24 06:09:31
[nhill]: "Tells you that it doesn't take any brains to be in the ruling class. All it takes is a massive bank roll and a hubris to match it."

This quotation has been floating around on that subject:
"If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?"
— Frédéric Bastiat
(E.g., our Tech Overlords deciding that their current power justifies their ideology ad hoc; because they have the power, they believe that their free wielding of it must be virtuous)

..
[Seb]: "Oh look, CC the shit controversialist is wheeling out the "thing that gives me the yuckies is comparable to paedophilia" line."

Oh look, Seb, the hack whose reading comprehension never advanced beyond Year 10 education, once again fails to comprehend what was written and instead evades to a vacuous Twitter-level misrepresentation. Surprise, surprise ;D .. almost like.. his "main goal, as it always is these days, [is] to try and (sic) prove character deficiency rather than address the point, and it drives a consistent attempt to try and (sic) reframe and misrepresent positions to do so (sic). It's dishonest[,] and a reason it holds a place as one of the [in]formal fallacies."

[Seb]: "Like when homosexuality was legalised, then gay marriage ... we will never get tired of this bullshit line."

Seb even fails with his faulty analogy to realize the difference between gay marriage (an issue between adults) and the social engineering of children. I'd tell him to "Try harder" to understand and maybe even re-explain what I already wrote in terms that might turn on lights in his cobwebbed mind, but we all know that he's incapable of exceeding his life-long intellectual plateau :D

..
[SA]: "The far left is definitely spreading degenerative transgender bullshit... but i do agree that child beauty pagents are also bullshit, mostly attended by sex offenders are retards."

Yeah, Seb seems to think that people here would actually defend those pageants, though he does at least realize that those pageants are "fucked up", so maybe he would employ ideological consistency by realizing it's "fucked up" that DNC media defends the moral degradation of children as a means of cultivating a voting block.

..
[SA]: "A better question is who ISNT part of the CNN sucks crowd."

People who trust the state intelligence apparatus? ;)
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Aug 24 06:11:55
*"It's dishonest and"
Oops, no comma :p
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