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murder
Member
Wed Sep 01 21:17:54
He doesn't really have covid. Someone just told him he could get high off Ivermectin.

You know he's crushing and snorting those pills. ;o)


TheChildren
Member
Thu Sep 02 00:53:43
he takes a little more than da ivermellins look at what da juices has done 2 his head and ballz...

he looks like a little small ape without hairzzz
TheChildren
Member
Thu Sep 02 10:47:45
then theres rumors going arund my man, he is 5foot3

Rugian
Member
Thu Sep 02 11:05:06
Does Alpha Brain not kill Covid or something?
murder
Member
Thu Sep 02 11:06:39

Joe Rogan is the same height as the average Chinese man. So ... :o)



TheChildren
Member
Thu Sep 02 16:02:19
yea and he fat like a murican 2

and usin ivermellins so dumb as fuck like a murican 2.

so theres that
murder
Member
Thu Sep 02 19:52:16

"yea and he fat like a murican 2"

Joe Rogan is hardly fat.

Dukhat
Member
Sun Sep 05 07:29:33
He has HGH gut from abusing juice for so long. And his face has become round and swollen from it too.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Sep 05 10:26:28
Because slowly fading away with age is so much better without complications ;-)

Look at like this, he has that gut, but he is still strong like a mule and has the endurance of a wilderbeast. Pick your poison!
TheChildren
Member
Sun Sep 05 10:32:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewHLRwpnZA
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Sep 05 10:35:41
He is not bloated in the face, the HGH has grown his skeleton! I swear the god look at Joe from 20 years ago, his head wasn’t as big as it is now. His fucking skull grew! I have no science to back this up, maybe it is an optical illusion.
TheChildren
Member
Sun Sep 05 10:55:23
all them roid heads grow. whats his name kumals heads grown.

Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 14 15:18:04
Lol

http://twi...tatus/1448478540685463552?s=20
murder
Member
Thu Oct 14 15:22:44

Gupta should have said "No."

kargen
Member
Thu Oct 14 15:43:29
His net worth is approaching 100 million and he gets about 75,000 per pod cast so he can look how ever the fuck he wants.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 16:10:53
His spotify deal was 100 million. The 75k per episode was a figure based on YT pay scale.
kargen
Member
Thu Oct 14 17:45:02
That translates to him being able to look however he wants.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 18:31:26
Yeah, I think he calls it "Fuck you" money.
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Oct 14 19:33:26
The Ivermectin “horse-dewormer” propaganda was popular in left-wing echo chambers such as Imgur, but even the echo chambers sometimes pay attention to Rogan.. so I wonder if this will wake a few people to CNN being a DNC propaganda and disinformation network.. or if it’ll just be excused or forgotten per Gell–Mann Amnesia.
But just imagine: someone finally figures out that CNN lies for political reasons, they wonder why CNN was so adamant about lying about Ivermectin and poisoning the well against Rogan, then they maybe stumble upon the idea of regulatory capture and Pfizer and Moderna’s public calls to have the White House set policies that corner the market for their vaccines. Such a person would probably still remain a tribalist (immune to learning too much that counters a blind trust in the government), but you’d hope they could start figuring a few things out.
kargen
Member
Thu Oct 14 20:06:06
Tossing something else into the mix. If there is a viable alternative the government can't mandate a vaccine. We aren't in a situation where they can mandate a vaccine anyway because we don't meet all the conditions. hasn't stopped President Biden and his team from trying though.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Oct 14 20:08:36
CNN fired the first shot so this is all fair, Joe has held back, yet this shot across their bow, could actually cause a tsunami that ultimately sink their ship. Are you guys liking the maritime references?
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 20:30:14
I think its funny the goal lefties were giving Gupta for "Giving Rogan a platform"

Meanwhile The JRE dwarfs CNN in viewership.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 20:39:27
Goal = flak


....somehow.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Oct 14 21:36:30
The hands of all the cuckservatives jerking each other off in this thread are all caked with blood and semen.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 14 21:46:45
The largest circle jerk relevant to this conversation remains the giggle fest leftwing retards had about Rogan taking horse dewormer.
murder
Member
Thu Oct 14 21:49:32

"The Ivermectin “horse-dewormer” propaganda was popular in left-wing echo chambers such as Imgur, but even the echo chambers sometimes pay attention to Rogan.. so I wonder if this will wake a few people to CNN being a DNC propaganda and disinformation network.."

CNN should be criticized for calling Ivermectin a horse dewormer. It's also used in other types of animals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#Veterinary_use


Joe Rogan can huff and puff all he wants. No lies were told by CNN. At least not about that. Which is probably why he's pissed. He probably talked to a lawyer and got told he had no case.



Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:07:18
Murder, He never really went to sue them, it was a blown up news story stemming from him saying

"what do I have to do? Do I have to sue CNN"

But anyway....if that's how you like your news, go nuts.
nhill
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:09:11
One of those other types of animals is called a "human". It should have been called what it was-- an anti-parasitic drug.

It's stupid enough to take an anti-parasitic for a virus. They could have left it at that and we could have all laughed. But instead they had to go full retard and act as if its only purpose was veterinary.

Idiots. Ever heard of selling past the sale?
nhill
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:09:54
Selling past the close, that is.
murder
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:19:37

It's only purpose may not be veterinary, but that is a use, and it's first use.

I find it amusing that people are upset at CNN for "lying" by not lying, but seem fine with Rogan lying by accusing CNN of lying ... which they didn't.

Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:27:06
Imagine doubling down on this argument. Fucking idiotic.

I can't even the most retarded of retards would call penicillin a cow shipping fever drug just because it is simultaneously sold at Tractor Supply.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:27:27
can't imagine*
nhill
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:33:05
Just say the fucking truth and simply say it's an anti-parasitic drug. Stop being a coward.

It was originally developed for veterinary usage and further study found compelling evidence for its efficacy in humans to clear parasites. To the tune of billions of people using it (pre-COVID19).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

2011 Feb 10:
"It has also been used to successfully overcome several other human diseases and new uses for it are continually being found. This paper looks in depth at the events surrounding ivermectin’s passage from being a huge success in Animal Health into its widespread use in humans, a development which has led many to describe it as a “wonder” drug."

-
murder
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:45:04

"Just say the fucking truth ..."

Apparently you guys can't handle the truth.

I can point to Rogan's lie. You can't point to CNN's lie.

And Rogan's outrage is manufactured. Ivermectin was being joked about as a horse dewormer well before he ever announced to the world that he took it. He knew exactly what was going to happen.

nhill
Member
Thu Oct 14 22:47:06
I don't care about Joe Rogan, lol. Have no feeling towards the guy one way or the other except finding him a bit annoying.
nhill
Member
Thu Oct 14 23:00:17
I have nothing against CNN. I think they're a more reliable news source than Fox News, but both are entertainment, not news, networks so it's like comparing dog shit to cat shit (Fox News would be cat shit in this analogy, that stuff stinks).

My problem is that anyone watching CNN has already demonstrated a high level of stupidity and implying idiotic assertions like a drug humans take everyday for parasitic infections is actually only a "horse dewormer" simply degrades the quality of discourse.

Case in point, here.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 23:32:24
"It's only purpose may not be veterinary, but that is a use, and it's first use."

Would it be fair to call antibiotics livestock medication?
nhill
Member
Thu Oct 14 23:40:49
Antibiotics were first used by humans. Murder is trying to be clever to mask the fact that he's on the wrong side here (and he knows it).
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 14 23:52:57
Debatable, but pointless.

AFAIK** Pretty sure Ivermectin was first used to treat river blindness in people.
earthpig
GTFO HOer
Fri Oct 15 01:48:14
Just watched the full 3 hour interview.

Joe Rogan needs to go to college.

Lots of things might have an evil liberal bias, basic statistics does not.
Habebe
Member
Fri Oct 15 02:55:30
CNNs take on the oil spill.

http://youtu.be/rE7KcF3MphU

It's actually more honest than CNN.
TheChildren
Member
Fri Oct 15 03:47:21
da man looks like a little bald monkey. he is literally devolvin into one of those short trolls from lord of da rings.

thats how much garbage he puttin in his body.
now imagine anyone tryin 2 take advise from him what 2 put in ur body.

dana white almost looks exactly like him. 2 completely different humans, different sizes different mothers suddenly devolved back in2 a similar state from da crap they took, i betcha he took rogans advise 2.

now unless u wanna devolve into a short bald troll, they da last people u wanna take advise from.

u dumb pieces of shit. aint u idiots ugly enuff already. u wanna turn bald and short and bubble gutty as well.

bubble gut bubble bubble bubble gut, hey boy drop dat down let me see that touch da ground, bubble gut bubble bubble bubble gut.
TheChildren
Member
Fri Oct 15 03:48:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewHLRwpnZA
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Oct 15 05:39:04
[murder]: "I find it amusing that people are upset at CNN for "lying" by not lying, but seem fine with Rogan lying by accusing CNN of lying ... which they didn't. ... I can point to Rogan's lie. You can't point to CNN's lie."

nhill covered this in part, and in the OP video, Rogan himself explains this, but to break it down:

• Ivermectin for horses is a distinct product from Ivermectin for humans.
• Ivermectin for horses typically comes in a large syringe as a paste (other options available), tastes like apple, has a high concentration (is formulated for horses), and explicitly says, "Not for use in humans"/"Not for human use" or "equine use only"/"for oral use in horses only". One 6-gram syringe dispensed in one use can treat a 1250-pound horse.
• Ivermectin for humans is typically prescription only (issued by a human specifically for another human's use), includes instructions and guidance specifically written for human use, and most often comes in foil packages containing about twenty white 3-mg tablets (other options available). Four 3-mg tablets taken once in a day can treat an average adult weighing 110–140 pounds.

• Joe Rogan was prescribed Ivermectin from a doctor — a for-human-use product.
• This was one of CNN's chyrons:
"Joe Rogan announces he has COVID, is taking horse dewormer Ivermectin"
• NPR's Vanessa Romo still has an un-edited/un-corrected article up that says this:
"Joe Rogan has told his Instagram followers he has been taking ivermectin, a deworming veterinary drug formulated for use in cows and horses"

Both CNN and NPR (though certainly others as well) lied when they said that Rogan took a horse dewormer. Rogan took a product which was formulated for humans and which is only available for horses in a distinctly separate formulation.

Now, even if one still somehow does not see this lie, certainly, it should be obvious that CNN and NPR used deceptive framing to make it appear that Rogan took a product that is above-all a product for horses. This is negligence, ignorance, and a public manipulation best called propaganda.

...
[ep]: "Lots of things might have an evil liberal bias, basic statistics does not."

You'll have to get specific about which part of the video you mean, but "basic statistics" can indeed have biases.

Introductory statistics covers sampling biases at length (e.g., random sampling versus convenience sampling), and courses using statistical modeling and/or which teach how to read statistics in scientific papers explicitly warn of bias errors in common statistics. And when it comes to political-science papers, many are guilty of bias errors and faulty conclusions; they tend to make bad jumps between the actual tested data, the methodology, and the conclusions. When it comes to review papers, the conclusions become even more faulty, and when it comes to journalists reviewing review papers or reviewing the review of other journalists, the statistics get their final removal from reality.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Oct 15 06:04:15
"simply degrades the quality of discourse."

This. A thousand times this. Appreciate how this kind of shit is corrosive to the conversation, politics, media's role as a check on power, the very fabric of society.

We are fucked, not because of the people in power, but because of the retards who put those people there and keep them there. Useful idiots in the idiocracy project.
TheChildren
Member
Fri Oct 15 06:51:09
he got da palumboism.

it basically da gorrilla look. u know how gorillas look like that. da only difference is he walk straight up while gorillas walk on hand and feet.

imagine joe walkin on his hands.
all da juiceheads eventually come lookin like that. dunt be surprised. inject ape hormones, get ape look.

is da condition where da bubble gut becomes visible, da limbs and legs start 2 shorten, da head becomes bigger and balder and da lookls evolve back 2 cavemen, almost like a orc from lord da rings. u wuldnt believe it if u didnt see da pics.
imagine just 40 years ago if u showed that 2 people, people wuldnt believe u. but it actually real.
da head grows becoz da growth hormones and shit and da face just looks like a cavemen while da hair disappears.

in fact shit is just so depressin 4 them they gotta smoke weed non stop just 2 away from it all.
TheChildren
Member
Fri Oct 15 06:57:41
just 2 stop thinkin about it all.

also aint it strange how all da palumboism only exists only whities and other nonwhites who bodybuild like dubai and shit...

literally tells u all u need 2 know.
murder
Member
Fri Oct 15 10:27:25

"My problem is that anyone watching CNN has already demonstrated a high level of stupidity and implying idiotic assertions like a drug humans take everyday for parasitic infections is actually only a "horse dewormer" simply degrades the quality of discourse."

No one said "only". Why add it?

murder
Member
Fri Oct 15 10:50:07

And again I would like to reiterate ... Joe Rogan announced to the world that he had taken Ivermectin for the sole purpose of eliciting the horse dewormer jokes that had been floating around for days.

He was simply setting the stage for the fake outrage.

You all got taken in.

Rugian
Member
Fri Oct 15 11:01:58
You are being intentionally obtuse if you think that CNN didn't know exactly what it was doing by associating that drug with horse dewormer.

It'd be like saying "this morning murder had oatmeal for breakfast, a substance commonly used for horse feed."

They decided to go into Slanderville territory here, so they deserve what they're getting.
murder
Member
Fri Oct 15 11:14:45

They aren't getting anything that they don't get the other 364 days of the year from the screwy right.

And I couldn't care less if someone reported that I was eating horse feed. Hell I've eaten dog snacks.

PSA: Milk-Bones are NASTY.



Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Oct 15 12:21:46
I don't care that you don't care about things that are important. They are no less important and this butchery of sense making is harmful to everyone, even the people who spend post after post relativising and what-abouting, then they say "I don't care". Not caring, is best done in silence.
nhill
Member
Fri Oct 15 18:13:03
> "My problem is that anyone watching CNN has already demonstrated a high level of stupidity and implying idiotic assertions like a drug humans take everyday for parasitic infections is actually only a "horse dewormer" simply degrades the quality of discourse."

> No one said "only". Why add it?

I specifically pointed out that it was implied, not said. If they had said it explicitly I wouldn't have written "implying idiotic assertions".

Also, stop eating milk bones.
murder
Member
Fri Oct 15 18:23:16

I stopped 4 decades ago. Only did it once. Like I said, they are nasty. The real danger was the little hot dog looking treats. I had to quit those because they were bad for my figure.


nhill
Member
Fri Oct 15 22:46:52
http://www...bakery-lick-n-crunch/dp/203358

Try these ones next time. My kids ate them so I stopped buying them. Pretty sure they just repackaged Oreos and marked them up to sell to unsuspecting pet owners. Got bamboozled.
Habebe
Member
Fri Oct 15 23:43:17
Murder, "They aren't getting anything that they don't get the other 364 days of the year from the screwy right."

Well, your right. No rational person would really claim that CNN,Fox,MSNBC, OAN etc. Are anything more than hack entertainment.

Maddow and Tucker both recently claimes this as a defense in court, and won. A judge ruled then to be entertainment, not news.

The Clinton Emails show how intertwined the DNC is to the media.

Left or Right, Fuckem all.If we want standards in journalism we should watch CSpan.
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 16 01:01:12
Does anyone know where we can find viewership comparisons?

Im pretty sure JRE has way more viewers than anything on Mainstream media.
nhill
Member
Sat Oct 16 01:10:13
> Left or Right, Fuckem all.

My man.
Rugian
Member
Sat Oct 16 11:54:32
Joe Rogan is now promoting ingesting engine coolant:

http://mob...tor/status/1449148515918270475
obaminated
Member
Sun Oct 17 12:06:47
That comment section is living cancer.
Habebe
Member
Mon Oct 18 17:06:29
Don lemon doubles down that they did nothing wrong.They didnt technically lie in the DL interview but they left out context.

CNN probably wants some JR ratings.
kargen
Member
Mon Oct 18 17:38:45
Was pointed out over the week-end what CNN did with this could end up being dangerous. They announced Joe Rogan took horse dewormer and made zero distinction between the stuff given to livestock and the stuff that is prescribed by doctors to humans. They made little if any effort to say there was such a thing available to humans.

Now Rogan gets better. People see CNN saying he took medicine meant for horses. Same people see Joe is all better. Let's face it people that watch CNN are not the brightest so now they get the sniffles and think I gotta get me some of that horse stuff.
CNN is going to get someone killed.
Habebe
Member
Mon Oct 18 17:55:51
http://youtu.be/oHWkvaQmxvI

Notice how on a quality news program they explain that yes the chemical is used on horses, it was prescribed by a medical human doctor.

Amoxicillin isn't a horse bacterial infection drug , but it can be used to treat that.
murder
Member
Mon Oct 18 22:08:12

"Now Rogan gets better."

People that watch CNN wouldn't necessarily assume that Rogan was ever sick. He had an episode whacked from Youtube in June for pimping Ivermectin.

He just found a different way of promoting it.

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