Utopia Talk / Politics / Could Larry Elder win Cali?

Habebe Member	Mon Sep 06 13:19:38 How hilarious would that be? He apparently has 29% of the vote, which considering there are 46 people running, is the lead. He has also stated he would opt to replace Feinstein with a Republican.
Cloud Strife Member	Mon Sep 06 13:35:08 I thought all the republicans left Cali because it was too free and prosperous for them?
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 06 13:35:41 He would be the first black governor in California's history. Don't forget about that part.
murder Member	Mon Sep 06 13:36:50 He ain't black.
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 06 14:40:45 murder Member Mon Sep 06 13:36:50 He ain't black. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BEcggg1CU
Rugian Member	Tue Sep 14 04:26:55 D Day Polling suggests Newsom will win, but the sheer amount of money, effort, and hysterics (black Republicans are white supremacists! Rofl) that the Dems threw out to protect this guy is immensely lulzly.
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 06:57:15 Cloud, When was the last time a Democrat ran on a pro freedom platform?
Dukhat Member	Tue Sep 14 08:27:16 "Pro-Freedom" Republicans bunch of pearl-clutching social issues to hide tax cuts for the rich. You're even more a slave to the ultra-rich than you realize but you're too stupid to realize it.
Dukhat Member	Tue Sep 14 08:32:23 "but the sheer amount of money, effort, and hysterics" Republicans are the ones that piled money into this race and wasted everyone's time by starting a recall in the first place but selective memory is nothing new for a cuckseravative.
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 08:38:52 Why does every argument Dukhat has end in "But, but they are worse"
Daemon Member	Tue Sep 14 10:33:03 http://nym...fraud-before-election-day.html "Larry Elder Campaign Concedes Defeat and Claims Fraud – Before Election Day"
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 11:12:09 Apparently that is fake news, the daily beast has the same article, but he never conceded.
kargen Member	Tue Sep 14 11:49:00 A anti-recall coalition has raised 72 million. The closest to that is Larry Elder with just under 14 million. "Why does every argument Dukhat has end in "But, but they are worse"" because on the short bus they don't every ask if Timmy jumped off a bridge would you.
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 13:52:00 Elder winning would probably hurt republicans in the midterms though next year.I seen they think his chances are 3%.
murder Member	Tue Sep 14 14:45:51 How would Elder winning hurt Republicans?
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 14:46:12 Holy shit, he might just pull this off, total game changer!!! http://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 14:48:51 Murder, My thought process on that would be that having such a polarizing figure in the Democratic Mecca would be used to motivate democratic voters. Even nationwide it would be a recurring news reel. Could be wrong though, just a theory.
murder Member	Tue Sep 14 15:00:18 If Texas reverting women back to second class status doesn't motivate Democrats, nothing will.
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 15:07:44 Murder, I highly suspect it will.Come midterm commercial time rolls around it will be feont and center. But, to have a Larry Elder as governor of CA would be like Maddow as governor of TX.
Rugian Member	Tue Sep 14 16:33:22 Dukhat "Republicans are the ones that piled money into this race" This is a blatant lie. Newsom raised more than $70 million to fight the recall, which is *overwhelmingly* more than what any other candidate has managed. Why are you so bad at facts, Dukhat?
Y2A Member	Tue Sep 14 22:20:17 gop loons get destroyed in 10 mins, time to move to floriduh http://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1437977687201562631 Dave Wasserman @Redistrict I've seen enough: the vote to recall CA Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) fails. 11:12 PM · Sep 14, 2021·Twitter Web App
Habebe Member	Tue Sep 14 22:33:50 Nah next they're gonna call for Biden to be impeached....I feel like its standard practice now.
patom Member	Wed Sep 15 04:28:43 The recall was rigged. I know because Trump said so in advance.
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 15 15:11:14 Mail in ballots are what rigged the election and rig every election. So easy to vote fraudulently. Same day voting is the best way to insure legal democratic elections.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 15 15:16:47 because the massive lying fraud says so, right? an R winning in California would've been the correct result of a democratic election
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Wed Sep 15 15:47:08 64% voted NO on recall. This wasn't even close.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 15 15:54:31 when Ahnold did it, there was a higher % of R's in the state & he obviously had more broad appeal & still does given he acknowledges that Trump is garbage unlike Elder
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 15 16:15:54 64% in CA seems normal. They don't like Newsom, but they fear a "Trump clone", which elder is not but still hispolitics don't really mesh with modern CA.
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 15 16:16:40 Arnold was also charismatic, famous and a very centrist moderate Republican.
Dukhat Member	Wed Sep 15 17:09:04 Newsom is pretty popular. Republicans tried to recall based on anger over lockdowns a few months ago as people wanted to reopen again but Delta and lots of people dying to it and kids being exposed changed that. Turns out people don’t want Trumpism. This is not just based off cities. Even Orange County and other Republican strongholds out of rural areas bolted.
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 15 20:39:50 Yeah, popular governors often have to fight off recalls.
Y2A Member	Wed Sep 15 21:23:14 the guy dominated 2 to 1, the huntington beach proud boys got their ass handed to them by a san fran liberal.
Y2A Member	Wed Sep 15 21:27:02 btw, now that orange county is consistently Dem (HRC, the Big Guy, Newsom twice) when and where are you moving?
Y2A Member	Wed Sep 15 21:30:55 Your god has spoken, LEAVE! http://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1438119019886878721 Ben Shapiro @benshapiro The failure of the CA recall is a reminder to Republicans still in the state: the decline is now inexorable. Get out while the getting is good, and move to a purple or red state. Your life will radically improve. 8:34 AM · Sep 15, 2021·Twitter Web App
Rugian Member	Wed Sep 15 21:32:54 Y2A's got a point. Anyone in the right who is conservative or who at least doesn't actively hate America should seriously think of joining Calexit at this point. Unless you have a network of at least eight figures, there are so many better places to live than that shithole. Or you can continue to live in a state where homes are unaffordable, taxes are sky high, human feces and used needles are everywhere, schools are leftist indoctrination centers, and white people are actively discriminated against.
Y2A Member	Wed Sep 15 21:34:36 no los queremos, no los nececitamos! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtRXaxbzaDk
Rugian Member	Wed Sep 15 21:40:24 I don't speak foreign.
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 15 23:43:58 My job requires me to stay here. Sux man.
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 15 23:54:14 Ny what measure is "Newsom pretty popular"?
Habebe Member	Wed Sep 15 23:54:25 By*
Dukhat Member	Thu Sep 16 00:07:16 A recall is as simple as getting a bunch of neckbeards in every county to sign a petition. Republicans are a loud and obnoxious minority in every part of the country out of brainwashed rural areas.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Sep 16 00:11:49 "Anyone in the right who is conservative or who at least doesn't actively hate America should seriously think of joining Calexit at this point." A problem is the "Dark Knight Rises" metaphor... if Bruce Wayne cuts ties with Gotham, the city absolutely dies. If he stays, it will cost him everything, but the city survives. People have to ask themselves how they would respond to that scenario, and it's not an easy ask. Elder not being elected does not mean that Wayne failed; Wayne was not a politician, and Harvey Dent did not get to serve his term. A more realistic issue: California has become the Capitol City from Hunger Games. It drinks the labors of its red districts and even literally drinks the rivers and reservoirs of neighboring states. If good people abandon it completely, then the mob will indeed remain... and vote themselves more riches at the expense of everyone else, and not just those in the state but the region and the country. Their declining morality but high population will mean loyal DNC cultists. If, on the other hand, people remain to fight back, then, long term, perhaps California will be broken into a state-wide Electoral College, where its urban sprawl wastelands can no longer seize labor and capital via its popular vote tyranny. I.e., do the same thing for California that the colonies did at the founding: create districts that have a vote that is weighted against the groupthink population centers. This will empower morality, empower districts to have and manage their own resources, and increase representation. None of this is possible if California continues to suffer a brain drain, and that brain drain hurts the rest of the country that must accept those California residents who fled the state but not the state's morality.
smart dude Member	Thu Sep 16 00:54:23 ^ cool story
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Sep 16 01:03:37 ^Lazy comment that only works on Twitter/Reddit/Imgur to appease the tribalists who only want to be confirmed of their biases but are unable to elucidate them in good faith since their biases immediately fall apart under reasonable evaluation.
Y2A Member	Thu Sep 16 01:06:15 "It drinks the labors of its red districts" the california economy is driven by the tech industry not by cletusistan. get real dude.
Y2A Member	Thu Sep 16 01:08:17 and even in cletusistan the labor is from latino immigrants working in the fields. the disconnect to reality is really something I will never get about clownism.
Dukhat Member	Thu Sep 16 01:21:49 Lol. Red states produce shit and the states upstream of california have all the power to take as much eater as they want before it gets to California. Cherub isn’t a trumper, just another moron who swallows bad conspiracy theories whole without hesitstion. He’s a useful idiot for the kleptocrats he claims to despise.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Sep 16 01:41:03 "just another moron who swallows bad conspiracy theories whole without hesitstion" There you go with that "conspiracy theory" bullshit again. Be specific, you fucking coward.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 16 02:34:00 Also, pretty sure Cherub isn't a He, but these days who can keep track.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 16 02:35:21 Conspiracy theorist is a term that gets thrown around in an attempt to dismiss someone as "crazy" so people will not look at the actual evidence they present.
smart dude Member	Fri Sep 17 03:08:19 "Lazy comment that only works on Twitter/Reddit/Imgur to appease the tribalists who only want to be confirmed of their biases but are unable to elucidate them in good faith since their biases immediately fall apart under reasonable evaluation." are you 12?
Dukhat Member	Fri Sep 17 08:41:56 Your conspiracy is your entire post. The vast majority of California's GDP is due to its cities. LA is the largest industrial area in the US. The Bay Area is a huge tech and industrial and trade hub. California farms are pretty good and productive but they are a drop in the water. And then your laughable lie about how California takes all the water. How the fuck does a state downstream of other red states steal water from them. The red states have all the power to take as much as they want and they do. The Colorado river is basically a stream by the time it gets to the Pacific. Just laughably idiotic assertion after assertion.
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