Utopia Talk / Politics / MMA - transgender edition

Nimatzo rank	Wed Sep 15 16:20:33 2021 http://nyp...ana-mclaughlin-wins-mma-debut/ Alana McLaughlin, the second openly transgender woman to compete in MMA in the United States, won her debut Friday night via submission at the Combate Global prelims in Miami, Fla. The 38-year-old used a rear-naked choke against Celine Provost to end the match 3 minutes, 32 seconds into the second round.
murder rank	Wed Sep 15 16:35:08 2021 First of all ... nope. That should not ever happen. Second, are those two even in the same weight class? And third ... nope. That should not ever be allowed to happen.
Nimatzo rank	Wed Sep 15 17:29:49 2021 "Second, are those two even in the same weight class?" Apparently both are feather weight, thought these things can look a bit deceiving. This is her when she was a he, ex special forces- http://i.d...2-image-m-24_1469178331017.jpg O.O
Paramount rank	Wed Sep 15 18:21:06 2021 I think that the transgenders should fight other transgenders. It should be like this: Men vs men Women vs women Transgender vs transgender
TheChildren rank	Wed Sep 15 18:25:06 2021 a confused society. so basically some dude beat up a woman.
Habebe rank	Wed Sep 15 19:22:34 2021 Paramount, Yup, the tranny league. There is a reason se have different sports. As for MMA, I think outside of curiosity fights where the female actually has a chance this shouldnt happen. Its not even comftorable to watch, you feel like yoir just watching an asshole beat a woman. It seems odd that transgender, who are like .25% of the population if that represent so many athletes.
kargen rank	Wed Sep 15 21:41:07 2021 Somewhere a person suggested a third league but suggested it be a league for anyone that uses steroids no matter gender. The transgenders could fight there.
Habebe rank	Wed Sep 15 21:45:44 2021 Kargen idea actually sounds cool.Honestly I wouldn't watch a tranny league.But Ive always liked the idea of special leagues where enhancement drugs are kosher.
murder rank	Wed Sep 15 23:55:59 2021 "Apparently both are feather weight, thought these things can look a bit deceiving." The tranny must have hollow bones ... or she gained back 20 lbs after cutting weight. Either way, someone with the build of a man should not be allowed to fight women. It's unfair enough when they race. Combat sports should be out of the question.
murder rank	Wed Sep 15 23:56:47 2021 "But Ive always liked the idea of special leagues where enhancement drugs are kosher." Start it up, dude. You may end up a billionaire.
Nimatzo rank	Thu Sep 16 14:48:33 2021 "someone with the build of a man should not be allowed to fight women." What if it is an actual woman born as a woman who is built like a man? They exist. Not that I am saying we should only have mixed classes, but what do you do? Once you open this pandora's box, you can start questioning everything along these lines, because the fact is there are inherent qualities individually (male vs male) that give an edge. In combat sports this is more evident because there are things in the male anatomy that evolved for this purpose and the aim of the game is to hurt people.
Nimatzo rank	Thu Sep 16 14:52:10 2021 But in defense of this fight, it was completely transparent and the female opponent willingly took the fight. So in that regard this is perfectly OK.
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