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Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 11:17:54
http://apn...34d2abf8977b87d2965d9fe3e1565f

This is from about 2 weeks ago, milley. Suggesting cooperating strikes against Isis with the Taliban.

He is known to be racked with white guilt and has no qualms about siding with Chinese against the US.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 17 11:38:48
does it even suggest he helped them get weapons?

and he didn't side w/ China against the US... he calmed their fears about the flailing madman that was losing his grip on power
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 17 11:53:06
Shocking if true.



Just kidding, it wouldn't be shocking at all coming from that traitor.
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 17 11:56:12
Good to see that Biden is okay with SOME people owning guns though.

Rednecks should start dressing up as the Taliban, the US government would probably start giving free AR-15s TO them.
kargen
Member
Fri Sep 17 11:58:49
The 5th time you get caught sneaking across the border you get a free helicopter.
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 12:00:40
Rugian, Or say black hawk helicopters.

Tw, No the article does not suggest that.But this was posted before his calls were made public and he admitted they were true.

That "madman" was a legally elected potus.
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 12:01:52
Do we know how much he was involved in the withdraw?

He has been publicly against leaving afghanistan.
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 12:18:20
Even before the new revelations he was called upon to resign over his handling of the withdraw.

Flash forward 2 weeks or so and we know even if you consider it a just act that he does not respect CoC and has no qualms with breaking norms and arguably laws to "trust his gut".
murder
Member
Fri Sep 17 13:14:44

"Did Milley help the Taliban get weapons?"

No but the Afghan army sure did. If you're going to drop your rifle and run, at least drop it hard enough to break it.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 17 13:19:29
"That "madman" was a legally elected potus."

for which many R's (way more than needed to impeach) said they didn't impeach solely as he wasn't president any longer as they couldn't defend his behavior

(defending his behavior a continuous problem thoughout his term for that matter, having to frequently rely on 'i didn't read or listen to what the President of the country & leader of my party said')
jergul
large member
Fri Sep 17 13:43:12
habebe
Is not flaunting norms one of the things you find attractive about Trump?

So Milley is flaunting norms and perhaps breaking laws.

What could possibly be your problem with that?
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 14:00:16
Tw, For sake of argument lets say he thought he was preventing nuclear war.

It still shows he just does whatever he thinks is right with a reckless disregard for the laws of the land and chain of command.

That said is it unreasonable to think he intentionally sabotaged the withdraw f he thought it. Was the right thing to do?

I dont think so. That said I'm also ignorant of exactly what his tole was in the withdraw.But questions need to be asked.
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 14:09:27
Jergul, For starters one is a politician. I wouldn't say that flaunting normal is why I like Trump.

I will say this, if Trump was caught giving military secrets to the chinese my support for him would drop immediatley and I would want him brought to justice.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 17 14:37:49
"It still shows he just does whatever he thinks is right with a reckless disregard for the laws of the land and chain of command"

he didn't interrupt any actions... many people were on the call, wasn't some secret shit & he didn't say anything harmful to our interests

there is zero reason to believe he would have interfered in anything other than totally batshit crazy orders from the madman
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 14:48:30
Tw, He may not have given out anything of importance, but Trump made no rogue attack commands either, so no reason to worry, right?
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 14:54:07
Your ecuse for Milley would use the same logic that Benedict arnold was not a traitor, he never actually surrendered west point.

Mabey he was just telling the brits that and was going to say psych! Last minute.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 17 15:18:59
if you want to worry Milley might have done something wrong under certain circumstances but didn't actually do anything as he didn't have to then fine

that doesn't get treason charges

worrying about Trump doing something wrong is extremely warranted based on his continuously unfit behavior since entering the stage... so a reasonable person was taking reasonable precautions


"By July 1779, Benedict Arnold was providing the British with troop locations and strengths, as well as the locations of supply depots, all the while negotiating over compensation. "

so... not similar...

if Milley was conspiring w/ China, why were others on the call? also, nothing suggests he was... no reporting, no admissions...

you keep reading into things (as you did w/ that undercover cop on Jan 6th)
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 17 15:23:37
I'm surprised that tw knows who Benedict Arnold is. Considering he wasn't familiar with Jim Crow, I've assumed that history isn't his strong point.
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 15:26:47
"if you want to worry Milley might have done something wrong under certain circumstances but didn't actually do anything as he didn't have to then fine"

Again, how is this any different from Benedict Arnold? The situation he had set in place didn't pan out.

Still pretty fucking similar.Plus we don't know what other calls he made.

Who were these others on the call? Why was the Commander in Chief not told about this?
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 15:27:38
The under cover cop is a federal agent.
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 15:29:39
Lets apply that logic to the Ukraine call then.

If it didnt happen, whats the problem?
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 17 15:31:49
Its funny how a major leader in the deep state is thenone claiming there is no deep state....and then pulls stunts like this.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 17 23:02:38
"The under cover cop is a federal agent"

with no indication he participated in the riot at all & no indication he urged others to participate & absolutely nothing suspicious about his presence wandering around the area

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"how is this any different from Benedict Arnold"

because he did do shit, i just posted an example above... & there was no conspiring w/ Milley at all, zero

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"Ukraine... If it didnt happen, whats the problem? "

it did happen... the withholding happened, the pressure happened... that's the wrongdoing (& many R's agreed it was proven, just claimed not impeachable)

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here's what fuckhead put out:
"Milley never told me about calls being made to China. From what I understand, he didn’t tell too many other people either. He put our Country in a very dangerous position but President Xi knows better, and would’ve called me. "

Milley didn't put us in danger... and apparently Xi would've protected us somehow... i have no idea what he even means & he probably doesn't either

his ability to sound stupid every time he communicates is impressive, i'll give him that
Forwyn
Member
Fri Sep 17 23:59:23
lulz @ tw
jergul
large member
Sat Sep 18 03:32:30
Habebe
Trump was caught giving secrets. Then we had the whole talk about how a president by definition can declassify anything he wants, so cannot give away secrets.
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