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Paramount Member	Sat Sep 18 01:12:57 Will Trump come back as President today? There’s going to be a rally in DC today at the Capitol! WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is deploying scores of National Guard troops to secure a fenced-off Capitol during a rally on Saturday for defendants charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot, bracing for violence as the authorities toil to correct the security failures that led to the deadly assault eight months ago. In what the Capitol Police chief called the “new normal” of security amid rising threats from domestic extremists, the administration will deploy 100 unarmed National Guard troops to downtown Washington on Saturday. The additional military presence comes after intelligence officers tracked online threats made against members of Congress and reported that some rally attendees supportive of former President Donald J. Trump “may seek to engage in violence.” http://www...ics/sept-18-rally-capitol.html
Paramount Member	Sat Sep 18 01:18:47 So if intelligence officers hs tracked threats made against members of congress and that Trump supporters may engage in violence, why do they only deploy 100 troops and why are they going to be unarmed? Lol If BLM would have a rally outside the Capitol, there would be several hundred police officers and troops there, and all would be armed, despite that BLM has never made a threat against members of congress.
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 18 01:38:37 Didn't BLM throw a coup in portland for weeks? And has a history of fires, occasional murder, burning cities and heavy property damage. While the Jan 6th riot was still fairly heavy property damage, melee scraps but no fires, no murders?
Habebe Member	Sat Sep 18 01:47:47 TOPLINE Topline: Though curfews are lifting and protests remain predominantly peaceful, the death toll from two weeks of demonstrations over the death of George Floyd continues to creep upward, with at least 19 people—a majority of whom are black—now dead. Activists In Los Angeles Hold Memorial Service For George Floyd LOS ANGELES, CA – JUNE 08: A drone aerial view[+]GETTY IMAGES KEY FACTS Calvin L. Horton Jr., 43, Minnesota: Horton was fatally shot near the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct two days after Floyd’s death in what is believed to be the first killing since the protests began. Javar Harrell, 21, Michigan: Harrell was shot May 29 as protests erupted in Detroit; his family has said that he was not protesting and it’s not clear whether his death is connected to the protests. Dave Patrick Underwood, 53, California: Underwood was shot May 30 while on guard duty outside a federal courthouse in Oakland and was one of two officers targeted in a drive-by shooting amid nearby protests. James Scurlock, 22, Nebraska: A violent encounter with a white bar owner, Jake Gardner, during a protest in Omaha on May 30 led to the death of 22-year-old Scurlock, who is black. Surveillance footage shows Scurlock jumping on Gardner; the Douglas County Attorney’s Office determined that Garner acted in self-defense and he will not face charges. Barry Perkins, 29, Missouri: The St. Louis resident was reportedly run over and killed by a FedEx truck while attending a protest on May 30. Chris Beaty, 38, Indiana: Just a few feet from his apartment, the former Indiana University football player and local business owner was killed on May 30 amid unrest in Indianapolis. Dorian Murrell, 18, Indiana: Only a few hours after Beaty’s death, Murrell was fatally wounded in an early morning shooting on May 31. Italia Kelly, 22, Iowa: Kelly was shot and killed around midnight on May 31 while leaving a protest outside a Walmart in Davenport, Iowa. Marquis M. Tousant, 23, Iowa: Tousant was found dead at the same scene as Kelly, outside the Davenport Walmart, where authorities say a police ambush unfolded. Marvin Francois, 50, Missouri: Francois was fatally shot after a protest in Kansas City on May 31, with police reporting his killers were three men attempting to steal his car. John Tiggs, 32, Illinois: Tiggs was fatally struck in the abdomen by shots fired inside a Metro PCS during lootings in the South Side of Chicago on May 31. David McAtee, 53, Kentucky: McAtee was shot on the morning of June 1 as National Guard troops and local police tried to disperse crowds of protestors in Louisville; his death led to the immediate firing of Louisville Metro Police Chief Steve Conrad, as two of the officers involved in the shooting had not activated body cameras. Jose Gutierrez, 28, Illinois: Gutierrez was shot on June 1 in the Chicago suburb of Cicero, where unrest and looting led the city to declare a state of emergency. Victor Cazares Jr., 27, Illinois: Cazares was killed by a shot to the head in Cicero in a separate incident on the same day; both deaths have been ruled as homicides. Jorge Gomez, 25, Las Vegas: Gomez was shot by officers during a protest that turned violent on June 1; Gomez was armed and allegedly pulled a gun at officers. David Dorn, 77, Missouri: The retired St. Louis police captain was killed by people looting a pawn shop after midnight on June 2, according to authorities. Robert Forbes, 55, California: Forbes died on June 6, a few days after he was struck by a car while peacefully protesting in California City. Two unidentified males died in Philadelphia on the night of June 2; one suspected looter was killed by the owner of a gun shop and the other was killed trying to blow up an ATM on the sidewalk. KEY BACKGROUND In addition to these 19 known fatalities, the past two weeks have seen numerous violent encounters between police and protesters—with both sides sustaining serious injuries. Protesters have been seriously injured by the use of nonlethal weapons and physical violence while a number of police officers are also recovering from injuries from shootings, stabbings, and objects thrown at them during protests. The majority of those fatally caught in the crossfire of protests are black males. http://www...-days-of-protests-19-dead/amp/
kargen Member	Sat Sep 18 02:22:57 Remember when top Democrats said using National Guard instead of police to respond to protests/riots is heavy handed and not something the president has the authority to do?
Average Ameriacn Member	Sat Sep 18 04:08:42 MAGA!!!!
murder Member	Sun Sep 19 12:06:12 "Remember when top Democrats said using National Guard instead of police to respond to protests/riots is heavy handed and not something the president has the authority to do?" But they are the right tool to deal with insurrection. Trying to topple the government and install a dictator is not a protest.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 19 12:38:46 "not something the president has the authority to do?" except in DC... that's exactly where the president does...
Paramount Member	Sun Sep 19 15:00:24 Hardly Anyone Showed Up at the ‘Justice for J6’ Rally The right-wing rally at the Capitol turned out to be a forum for random grievances, and an opportunity to dress like Batman. http://www...not-resemble-january-6/620106/ I guess Trump is ’dead’ now? No one cares anymore?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 19 16:11:14 no, he wasn't there & didn't promote it plus the paranoid Q people circulated it was a trap although i suspect Trump being off social media is helping somewhat in general (& i'm not seeing the beholden R's fighting hard to let Trump back on, they all know he's a disaster, yet all accept they must kneel to him... so fucked up)
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Sep 20 04:21:34 We have to get the words correct. BLM was a failed insurgency and capitol hill a failed coup.
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 20 04:56:09 I've always preffered the term Putsch over Coup. I get it that English lacks its own word so we take it from the French, but why not take the German word?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Sep 20 05:08:36 Because French is the superior language and sounds much nicer than the coarse and barbaric noises that Germans make?
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 20 05:26:56 In all fairness German is a fake language... The two words to me envoke totally different sentiments. Coup De Tat in its full formal evokes sophistication, classy guilotines and Latin. While Putsch is verbal punch to the gut, sounding far more brutal and less cerebral. At the very least we could grant different meanings. A poisoning or an assasanation , likley with trials and such, a sly operation, limited physical spars. While a Putsch would be a brutal storming, images of drunk Krauts running around bashing things with clubs comes to mind.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Sep 20 05:31:35 hehe, yea it even bears resemblance to putz and klutz. I see your point.
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