Utopia Talk / Politics / shit about Shit & his shit associates #5

tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 13 12:15:16 "Because Trump wouldnt pay him, probably cheaper to have his legs broke." exactly 1) he stiffs even people who work for him, he's a cheap asshole bastard 2) he is a petty child, he'd never give his own money to someone who has called him a stupid piece of shit fucking moron toddler fraud a thousand times (& taking a loan would still be his money to spend even if he's never paying it back) 3) he'd far more likely use the $100,000 (in donations) to cause harm... he prefers to try to get his enemies fired, arrested, destroy their lives 4) he -does- inappropriately spend charity & political donation money ∴ in your rare jergul universe of him actually paying me, it would be donation money
jergul large member	Wed Oct 13 12:17:40 Aww, you remembered.
murder Member	Wed Oct 13 12:26:34 All of Trump's properties are overleveraged anyway.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 13 19:08:41 semi-related: "I do pay my lawyers when they do a good job" ~ Fraud (on reports of some of his past lawyers not wanting to work for him further for fear of not being paid) (& we know 'doing a good job' requires doing the impossible and/or criminal activity)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Oct 14 12:03:47 "If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented), Republicans will not be voting in ‘22 or ‘24. It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do." ~ leader of the R party http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-vh9rfuemhp0 go ahead R's, spread the message of your leader: nobody vote anymore (imagine the face-palms... & how happy they are he's not on Twitter)
nhill Member	Thu Oct 14 13:02:45 Stop fucking up the joke, you retards.
murder Member	Thu Oct 14 15:41:38 What joke?
nhill Member	Thu Oct 14 18:01:42 ;_;
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Oct 14 19:31:23 FBI agent Andrew McCabe, who Trump had fired right before he was retiring to screw over his pension, has gotten all that reversed (& legal fees) that’s sure to anger the toddler... also, I will note again that what McCabe was accused of was ‘lack of candor’ related to giving info to the media negative -to Hillary-... I’m certain when Fraud rages on this he will again mislead, as he does 100% of the time, that McCabe did some corrupt acts against him... but as usual with Trump claims, zero of that has been shown
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Oct 14 22:05:10 there’s an incredibly clear pattern of the deranged lunatic just deciding person after person is a RINO or ‘never-Trumper’ corruptly working against him when just doing their jobs... thus would be fucking nuts to ever want him in power again —— Chris Christie sorta willing to speak against Trump (though can’t say his name of course): “For years I have worked with thousands of Republicans across this country to make sure people turned out & voted. Given what President Biden and the Democrats are trying to do to this country, Republicans will and must vote in big numbers in ‘22 & ‘24-no matter what anyone says.” yeah...’anyone’...
nhill Member	Thu Oct 14 22:13:09 Now that TW admitted he'd take $100,000 to shut up about this, none of his posts catch my attention anymore. Lol. A man of no principles is not one I can take seriously. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-6eWEhjMa4
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Oct 14 22:26:59 or i realize posting on this forum isn't saving the country
nhill Member	Thu Oct 14 22:35:59 That's a remarkable level of self-realization.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 15 02:04:49 apparently Biden is trying to steal Christmas... at least that’s what show after show claiming in the fraudosphere I think it’s over global supply chain issues... apparently Biden sabotaged it to hurt Christmas just like he attacked Dr Seuss and is limiting hamburgers
murder Member	Fri Oct 15 11:01:18 Well you can't say "Merry Christmas" if all the children are crying because they didn't get any presents. Biden is doing this to stick it to Trump, who is the only reason we can even say "Merry Christmas".
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 15 11:38:56 you also have people like loyal capo Jim Jordan w/ total bullshit lies: "Christmas presents were never late when President Trump was in charge."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Oct 16 01:06:40 apparently Trump destroyed the sand dunes in Scotland that he claimed he'd protect (at his mysteriously financed golf course) http://www...tland-sand-dune-system-2021-10 "We will stabilize the dunes. They will be there forever. This will be environmentally better after it [the course] is built than it is before." ~ guy w/ no attachment to truth they appear to now be largely fairways
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 18 12:02:45 "Isn’t it terrible that all of Andrew McCabe’s benefits, pensions, salary, etc., were just fully reinstated by the Justice Department? <<...lies about McCabe & Hillary, griping about Peter Strzok & Lisa Page & Hunter Biden...>> While I have never painted before, Hunter has inspired me to immediately begin painting because I’ve always felt I have a talent at that, and could surely get at least $2 million dollars per canvas—and probably a lot more. I will begin immediately. Our Country is crooked as hell! " ~ psycho http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-2hgum9xmxw0 is it "terrible" McCabe got his pension back? or was it terrible a fucking corrupt moron toddler was publicly urging he be fired w/ continuous misinformation? [Our Country is crooked as hell! Trump 2024]
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 12:42:02 "What a POS" is trending over the piece of shit's statement on Colin Powell: the intern hasn't put it on the website yet, so can't copy/paste, but here's a screenshot of the text message version going out (complete w/ donation link): http://pbs...WYBMwT6q?format=jpg&name=large
Rugian Member	Tue Oct 19 13:25:55 Powell literally helped drag the US into a war based on lies. That war has resulted in hundreds of thousands killed, instability across the entire Middle East, ancient ethnic groups forced from their homes, and trillions of dollars down the drain. But okay, Trump is the REAL bad guy for making insensitive tweet (even though he DID say "rest in peace," which is more than what Powell deserves). You are such an establishment shill.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 17:38:01 would you rather have an alive Powell or Trump watch your dog? Trump is a piece of shit, through & through & not the first grave he's trampled upon & if Powell hadn't accurately called Trump a liar, Trump never would've said it, it's pure petty toddlerness... what warmonger has he gone after where there wasn't a personal feud?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 18:11:34 "Wacky Senator Bill Cassidy from Louisiana is a RINO Republican who begged for my endorsement in 2020 and used it all over the place to win re-election, much like Little Ben Sasse, and then voted to impeach your favorite President." ~ walking embarrassment to himself, his family & the nation guess what makes Cassidy a RINO?... answer not well hidden...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 18:13:25 (& what spawned the idiot post at this time is Cassidy recently said Trump wouldn't necessarily win nomination in 2024 as he lost the white house, the senate & the house)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 18:14:35 here's the Colin Powell statement text: " Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media. Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic RINO, if even that, always being the first to attack other Republicans. He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace! " ~ shit
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 18:16:52 " The fake, highly partisan Unselect Committee continues to rock and roll. They were unable to make a deal with Kevin McCarthy to put real Republicans on the Committee, so they got stuck with low-polling warmonger Liz Cheney and Cryin’ Adam Kinzinger who have no idea what our Party stands for. Cheney is polling in the low 20’s in Wyoming, the State she doesn’t represent. This is just a continuation of the Witch Hunt which started with the now fully debunked and discredited Russia, Russia, Russia Scam, quickly reverting to a perfect phone call with Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and now this. The Unselect Committee is composed of absolute political hacks who want to destroy the Republican Party and are decimating America itself. I am the only thing in their way. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! " ~ believe it or not, written by an 'adult' http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-jjm3weqwyy897
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 19 18:23:51 a good collection of pieces of shit: http://pbs...kAEVa07?format=jpg&name=medium 'Turning Point USA' is a Trump cult org swap Feucht w/ Palin & i can confirm the top 2 rows are pure shit... presumably the rest are as well
murder Member	Tue Oct 19 19:25:34 "Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media. Hope that happens to me someday." Someday very soon. *fingers crossed* :o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 20 01:57:45 ideally a coked up My Pillow Guy takes him out after feeling rejected
Habebe Member	Wed Oct 20 02:48:22 More likely tumbleweed snaps.
murder Member	Wed Oct 20 12:12:08 Rick Wilson @TheRickWilson Donald, when you finally shuffle off this mortal coil there will be celebrations. A firm of hydrologists and drainage engineers will be retained to build a complex system of sluices and pipes to remove the piss that will rain on your miserable pauper's grave. 10:13 AM · Oct 19, 2021 http://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1450465183604871168
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 20 13:21:23 hmm, so i'm not the only one who wants to piss on his grave ---- real ad by a candidate for NV governor: http://twitter.com/AlexThomp/status/1450548575704866823 not sure her chances (pretty sure cultist Kari Lake is favored in AZ though)
Habebe Member	Wed Oct 20 13:32:43 Thats actually Boy George these days, he identifies as a republican woman.
murder Member	Wed Oct 20 13:46:09 When did it become OK to be obese? We need to start fat shaming people again, because no one likes looking at that mess.
Habebe Member	Wed Oct 20 13:53:54 M murder, Pretty sure they are a protected class. This is what happens when we let everyone vote.Go back to White land owning men and fatty boop woulsnt exist.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 20 16:15:33 "Low-polling Liz Cheney (19%) is actually very bad news for the Democrats, people absolutely cannot stand her as she fights for the people that have decimated her and her father for many years. She is a smug fool, and the great State of Wyoming, together with the Republican Party, fully understands her act. To look at her is to despise her. Hopefully she will continue down this unsustainable path and she will soon be gone!" ~ cult leader / child as he always lies, the "19%" probably made-up, but she's definitely suddenly become very disliked good example of how Fraud can ruin a person... she was even in the GOP leadership until Trump ripped into her over 1 issue (& don't give me any 'she's a warmonger' bullshit... she was elected fine in 2018 & 2020 & in leadership all until voting to impeach the totally unfit piece of shit criminal)
murder Member	Wed Oct 20 19:58:51 "as he always lies, the "19%" probably made-up" Not made up. Pulled out of his ass. That 19% is the remnants of the greasy fried chicken he had a couple of nights before.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 20 22:40:07 Peter Navarro (one of the many pieces of shit from Trump admin) wrote a book apparently including this lesson... "Bad Personnel is Bad Politics: Never hire a press secretary who lacks both the intellect & training to understand the nuances of your policies" http://twitter.com/RealPNavarro/status/1450930260929875969 i'm sure that'll be very applicable to the readers nuances of policy like when Trump called her to tell her to inform the public his penis was not shaped like a toadstool
Habebe Member	Wed Oct 20 22:54:55 The 19% was probably likley Repiblican primary voters. I seen a 23% not that long ago.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Oct 21 14:36:13 the Trump shill Jim Banks (who was denied onto Jan 6th commission) used as part of his argument for letting Bannon just ignore his subpoena was claiming that 'private citizen Bannon knew there'd be violence, why didn't the capitol police?' ... him going w/ presumption that Bannon knew nothing, so everyone should've known... seems more like a massive reason to want to question him to me also his noting Bannon was a private citizen kinda fucks w/ the executive privilege argument... which was already stupid on multiple other fronts such as some of requested info had nothing to do w/ Trump & it's not blanket coverage, you exert it on an issue by issue basis they've also had Matt Gaetz speak & Jim Jordan just finished... all the garbage assholes... whereas when Liz Cheney speaks, just professionalism... there's a constant massive contrast between Trump's Idiocracy extras and the Rs who see the obvious fraud for who he is 'subpoena' - means 'under penalty' but yeah, keep fighting for the right to just ignore all subpoenas... the supposed fans of law and order have an exception: defend Dear Leader at all costs
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Oct 21 17:40:59 "The nine RINOs (including Cheney and Kinzinger) who voted to hold Bannon in contempt are proving they are merely political operatives. Executive privilege must mean something for government to function properly." ~ Jenna Ellis (member of Trump's crack legal team alongside Rudy Giuliani & Sidney Powell) it must mean -everything- apparently... absolutely no one has to ever give any info at all about any issue at all if they ever had contact w/ Dear Leader
Rugian Member	Fri Oct 22 19:31:20 "Isn’t it funny that Meghan McCain, who has always been a bully and basically a lowlife, is now complaining that it was she who was bullied by the Slobs and Radical Left maniacs of “The View.” At the request of many of her representatives, I made it possible for her father to have the world’s longest funeral, designed and orchestrated by him, even though I was never, to put it mildly, a fan. In his own very special way, he was a RINO’s RINO. Despite his fighting against me, I won Arizona by a lot in 2016 and won Arizona by even more in 2020—unfortunately the vote counters in 2020 were far more important than the candidate (See the determinative Report issued Wednesday by the Arizona Auditors!). I have since found out that McCain, who was close to last in his class at Annapolis, sent the fake and totally discredited scam Dossier to the FBI, hoping to stop the “Trump Train.” In any event, Meghan should fight the Communists instead of explaining how they beat her, hurt her, and made her “physically ill.” She should fight back against the Losers of The View the way she fights against very good and well-meaning Republicans, and she would do herself a world of good!" Lmao Trump is so friggen' hilarious. I can't wait until he wins his second (really, third) term in 2024 and forces Jack to put him back on Twitter.
Rugian Member	Fri Oct 22 19:36:41 Also tumbleweed you are hopeless. I pointed out that Colin Powell played a major role in the single most disastrous foreign policy decision of the 21st century, one that has destroyed countless lives and destabilized an entire region of the globe. And your grand rebuttal to that was "well who would you want to babysit your dog." Jesus, dude. Do you even realize that the only reason you suddenly like Bush-era people again is because CNN and the rest of the MSM have been trying to make them out to be the "good" Republicans? You probably hated all of these people back in your Ron Paul days. And for the record, I absolutely wouldn't want Colin Powell to babysit my dog. He's dead, he can't babysit shit.
murder Member	Fri Oct 22 19:48:26 "I can't wait until he wins his second (really, third) term in 2024 and forces Jack to put him back on Twitter." Why would he do that? That would devalue his shares in whatever the fuck social media scam he's associated with now.
murder Member	Fri Oct 22 19:51:38 "Jesus, dude. Do you even realize that the only reason you suddenly like Bush-era people again is because CNN and the rest of the MSM have been trying to make them out to be the "good" Republicans?" No, it's because they suck less. The ex-girlfriend who cheated on you with your best friend starts looking less awful after your bitch of a wife divorces you, takes the kids to another state, and screws you for alimony and child support.
murder Member	Fri Oct 22 19:53:47 "I pointed out that Colin Powell played a major role in the single most disastrous foreign policy decision of the 21st century, one that has destroyed countless lives and destabilized an entire region of the globe." Now there are Republicans that tried to topple the government of the United states and install a dictator, so I'm not sure why you're focused on the other side of the planet.
Rugian Member	Fri Oct 22 20:02:12 I believe you are referring to the events of January 6. Which was nothing more than a riot. Riots aren't good things, but they also aren't anything special. The left fomented hundreds of riots across the country last year, and you tolerated them just fine. Against the Iraq War, a single riot doesn't even rate.
murder Member	Fri Oct 22 20:14:22 "I believe you are referring to the events of January 6. Which was nothing more than a riot." Lighting cars on fire and looting Target is a riot. Using force to try to stop the transition of power is an insurrection.
Rugian Member	Fri Oct 22 20:18:45 I am curious as to what you think the mob had the power to actually stop. What you are essentially saying is that riots where ordinary people are the victims are fine, but riots where high and mighty politicians are the victims are crimes against humanity. Fuck the common man and his store that got looted. But make Nancy Pelosi lament the fate of her podium, and suddenly that's unacceptable behavior. Your bootlicking for society's would-be elites is noted. And rejected.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 22 21:30:00 "He's dead, he can't babysit shit" i did specify an -alive- Powell ---- "the only reason you suddenly like Bush-era people again is because CNN and the rest of the MSM have been trying to make them out to be the "good" Republicans?" false "they suck less" true you can't possibly listen to Liz Cheney in the statements on floor of congress yesterday about Bannon compared to the Trump people & not notice a massive difference in intellect & seriousness a pattern across the R party... the respectable ones know & acknowledge Trump is AWFUL ---- "Riots aren't good things" when's the last time Trump seemed to have a problem w/ Jan 6th? he's been calling it a protest of the "insurrection" of Nov 3rd ---- "but riots where high and mighty politicians are the victims are crimes against humanity" targeting people actually is way more serious than property... there was no battering of cops to get to people in BLM-related activity (there was no battering of cops at all that i'm aware of beyond projectiles, which Trump's cultists also used, & is less serious aggression than melee) the cultists were looking for the people... who justifiably fled in terror...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 22 21:37:27 & Trump's had nothing but support for domestic terrorist Ashli Babbitt if he's just telling it like it is when shitting on the multiple graves of people (who coincidentally are his personal enemies), why no issue w/ Babbitt?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 22 22:39:56 learning to mimic the fucking moron... not a cult at all though... http://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1451613494764314634 but a black marker is way more manly than a blue marker the # of people i've seen sign documents w/ a marker is now 2
murder Member	Sat Oct 23 09:06:25 "What you are essentially saying is that riots where ordinary people are the victims are fine, but riots where high and mighty politicians are the victims are crimes against humanity." No, what I'm saying is that riots where ordinary people are the victims are riots, but riots where the rioters are trying to topple the government are insurrections.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Oct 24 13:52:41 twitter thread from Robert Costa (co-author of "Peril"): " thread on Willard from "Peril" After Pence leaves Oval on Jan. 5, Trump is furious. Pence isn't breaking. He opens the door near the Resolute Desk. "A rush of cold air blasted the room." He can hear the mob in the streets outside the Willard. He's elated to hear them. As staffers filed in, some began to shiver. Still, Trump did not close the door... The noise outside grew louder, almost like a party. 'Isn't that great?' Trump exclaimed. 'Tomorrow is going to be a big day.' Trump went around the room, asking for advice about congressional Republicans. 'How do we get them to do the right thing?' he asked. No one offered an answer that satisfied him. Trump then calls Senator Cruz. You need to object to all the states that could be raised by the House, Trump said. Cruz says his group will object to Arizona and focus on calling for his proposed commission to probe the election. Trump is unhappy, wants more to be done. With his back to the wall and Pence not budging, and Senate Rs holding to doing their own thing, Trump decides to turn to the Willard group for backup, for more aggression. He knows the mob is outside. He knows Bannon, Giuliani, Boris, Eastman, etc. are over there. People in the streets were yelling, delighted and almost euphoric about Trump possibly taking back the election on Wednesday. They waited to see Giuliani and other Trump stars emerge from the Willard. They nodded warmly at others in red hats, a movement in total solidarity. Trump decides to act, with help from Willard war room. Push Pence to brink. Late Tuesday evening... Trump directed his campaign to issue a statement claiming that he and Pence were in 'total agreement that the Vice President has the power to act.' [Marc] Short was stunned. "This breaks protocol," Short said tersely. [Jason] Miller refused to retract a word. "The vice president has the ability to do this, he needs to be loyal," Miller said. Trump soon called Giuliani, and then called Steve Bannon, who was also at the Willard. With Bannon, Trump brought up his meeting with Pence. There had been a power shift. "He was very arrogant," Trump said. "Very arrogant," Trump repeated. To Bannon and others, Trump's four words were sobering. Pence was not going to break. But Trump, Willard crew kept pushing... Giuliani wonders if he should go see Pence at the Naval Observatory. A 1-on-1. Make it happen. Old school, Trump lawyer to VP. For Pence advisers, the suggestion "felt straight out of a bad mafia movie." Based on our reporting, the Willard scene on Jan. 5, 2021 and into early hours of Jan. 6, 2021 is the culmination of a pressure campaign to prevent Biden from taking office. They first tried (and failed) in the courts. Then they pushed Eastman memo/argument to VP. Relentless. By the time Trump takes the stage on Jan. 6, he has pulled every possible lever of power to try to stay in power. Courts via Rudy. VP via Eastman. Lawmakers. DOJ. Now, all that is left to stoke, the last lever, is the sprawling crowd before him./end " http://twitter.com/costareports/status/1451953928791379969 if you don't believe it happened, why? what sounds hard to believe? there was plenty of public pressure on Pence, why wouldn't there be more privately? plus we know of multiple private efforts by Trump calling election officials & DOJ, asking them to find things they didn't find... & the Eastman memo factually exists (the plan for Pence to follow to hand election to Trump) so just the typical war room of criminals trying to overthrow an election by every means necessary based on made-up lies... no need for any accountability & of course Trump busy trying to replace as many people w/ loyalists as possible for next time...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 25 18:47:38 " What good is it if FOX News speaks well of me when they continually allow horrible and untruthful anti-Trump commercials to be run—and plenty of them. In the good old days, that would never have happened and today it happens all of the time. Ratings-challenged CNN and MSNBC would never run a positive Trump ad—never. With so many forces against us, Big Tech, the Fake News Media, the Radical Left, the RINOs, and more, we are at such a disadvantage, but we will win anyway! " ~ moron does he realize it's third parties paying for ads? (i'm not sure his PAC ever makes ads, probably as the donation money wouldn't go into his pockets)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 25 23:00:33 get your "Guns Don't Kill People Alec Baldwin Kills People" apparel from Don 'collusion' Jr: http://sho...ont-kill-people-mens-apparel-1 who wouldn't want Jr's name printed on their shoulder "Designed and Printed in the USA!" ...so made elsewhere
Habebe Member	Mon Oct 25 23:11:23 You seem to not like such apparel? I think its great, you knew this was going to happen.Alec successfully made himself a laughing stock in the gun debate, he wont be taken seriously.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 25 23:40:30 it's fantastic... & about 25% of the apparel options have "FJB" on it... very classy Carl's Jr: Fuck you, i'm eating
murder Member	Tue Oct 26 05:30:37 "get your "Guns Don't Kill People Alec Baldwin Kills People" apparel from Don 'collusion' Jr:" At least that's clever. So you know they stole it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 26 23:51:01 "when do we get to use the guns?... not a joke... how many elections are they gonna steal before we kill these people?" ~ cultist http://twitter.com/sayre26/status/1452878044931133445 w/ Charlie Kirk claiming 'they' are making him play into their hands... the evil left is making him reveal he wants to murder them... it's not the fucking asshole liars like Trump & Charlie Kirk (a full-on Trump fanatic) making him legit murderous
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 14:11:58 fun fact: NOTHING in the DOJ memo calls parents domestic terrorists yet Fox & others in the fraudosphere apparently convinced even R lawmakers that it did one of many examples of R shitbags flipping out over what they think is in the memo (but isn't... & it's a 1 page memo... maybe READ IT yourself first...): http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1453411053195468804
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 14:13:14 here's the memo... http://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1438986/download good luck finding the problem w/ it, even though every single R lawmaker is outraged at Merrick Garland for it
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 18:53:23 "$7.59 gasoline in various parts in California—a record, and going higher. All over the Country gasoline is spiking. If the Trump Administration were in there, it would right now be $2 a gallon or less." ~ incredibly shameless fraud
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 27 18:54:12 Because the memo was released directly in response to the NSBA letter, which DID liken parents to "domestic terrorists" (and suggested they be prosecuted under the PATRIOT Act). Garland even testified before the House last week that the letter certainly played a role in the decision to issue the memo...so it's definitely relevant. The NSBA letter has undeniably been a massive public relations disaster...over twenty state SBAs have distanced themselves from it, and 3 have entirely broken ties with the NSBA as a result. The NSBA board has since been forced to apologize and claim that the letter was sent out without their approval. The fact that the DOJ acted as it did in response to such an abominable demand letter is shocking. And can you point to any reason they would have issued their memo had the NSBA not sent the letter? The letter is *the* reason the memo was published. We also know that the White House corresponded with the NSBA to have them issue the letter in the first place...then the WH turned around and "discussed" it with Garland prior to the DOJ's memo release. You would have absolutely characterized that as a move to undermine the independence of the AG if Trump had pulled that stunt. On that note, this whole fiasco has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Trump, so I don't know why you're trying to defend it. After all, it's not like you're just a leftist hack who blindly sides with everything the Democrats do or anything. Jesus Chris tw.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 19:10:49 "why would you EVER release a memo... i mean did you write that memo? did staff write that memo? what would have led you to do this, it is so over the top" ~ breathless shocked moron Senator Marsha Blackburn sure sounds like she's talking about the completely reasonable memo that he released and not a letter he had nothing to do with and the letter isn't the only reason for the memo, plenty of reports & video of crazed threatening parents ------- Ted Cruz: "You just called him a domestic terrorist!" (false) Merrick Garland: "I did not!" (true) & Ted super angry that Garland didn't retract his completely reasonable memo ------ fucking liars...
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 27 19:32:35 "and not a letter he had nothing to do with" I love how these threads of yours have consistently shown that you have no understanding of the transitive property. The DOJ memo was released in direct response to the NSBA letter. It wouldn't have been released if the NSBA hadn't written their letter, and it was only released because they did.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 21:03:06 that isn’t established and isn’t that relevant what in the memo is shocking? what is over the top? what will strike fear into the hearts of law-abiding Tennesseans? and Marsha Blackburn is one of the biggest Trumpers in the Senate & the most violent parents likely to be cultists thus fits thread
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 27 21:11:31 It is established, and it is relevant. As I have demonstrated.
murder Member	Wed Oct 27 21:17:21 "what will strike fear into the hearts of law-abiding Tennesseans?" hip hop? Women's Rights? Being exposed as the cowboy poser capital of the world? ;o)
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 27 21:22:48 Threatening to unleash federal agents on parents whose big "crime" is daring to question the teachers' unions and the educational decisions being made on behalf of their children would strike some as a bit scary.
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 27 21:24:47 To turn the question around, what exactly is it that the FBI is being called in for?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 21:35:41 “Threatening to unleash federal agents on parents whose big "crime" is daring to question the teachers' unions and the educational decisions being made on behalf of their children would strike some as a bit scary.” did you read the memo, or just being like R politicians? as that’s not in it and it was crazed threatening parents that inspired the letter you object to, so continue your transitive property up the line to where the fault lies maybe school board members don’t need to live in fear for their lives, just like all the election officials receiving death threats primarily due to one fucking shitbag (who has inspired death threats vs countless people since coming down the escalator... probably more than any non-Imam ever has) -more- should be done on cracking down on all the threats, not less... rather than apologizing for discouraging threats as Rs want apparently
Rugian Member	Wed Oct 27 21:45:22 The clue is in the name, FEDERAL Bureau of Investigation. You don't call in those guys for just any crime. If some yahoo is threatening a school official, that's a job for the local police to handle. You know what DOES concern the FBI though? Domestic terrorism. Which, wouldn't you know it, is the exact crime that these parents were accused of in the letter that prompted the DOJ response. And no, Trump is not exclusively or even primarily responsible for parents' negative reaction to the shit the school boards have been forcing on schools...there's absolutely zero basis for that assertion, and it in fact you saying it proves just how little you actually know about this story. Maybe instead of blaming the boogie man, look in your own backyard and recognize that the political left has been going down the road of extremism, and prompting the backlash that we're now seeing. Or do you think parents are completely unjustified in protesting?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 22:15:58 Trump is 99% responsible for the massive quantity of death threats vs election officials (& members of news media, & various gov't officials doing their jobs, & women assaulted by him, & various actors, etc...) the cult leader has cultivated a death threat oriented violent cult* he also politicized the pandemic & masks & vaccines more-so than ANY fit leader would have as well as causing a mass disinformation network to form fueling hostility and since you don't want to read the memo, how about this sentence "While spirited debate about policy matters is protected under our Constitution, that protection does not extend to threats of violence or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views" it mentions NOTHING about persecuting people over protesting or arguing or any lawful actions *example n: http://twitter.com/sayre26/status/1452878044931133445
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Oct 27 22:33:02 speaking of Trump's proven violent cult, here's Tucker taking another stab at completely misinforming the public about Jan 6th: http://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1453517062073110540 Tucker being the guy who claimed the gov'ts own docs show FBI agents organized Jan 6th (no docs do that) & who also concluded one person was an FBI agent which was debunked in <24 hrs (person was a cultist's wife) Tucker giving that mis-information out on the top-rated show of an alleged news network anyway, i'm sure lots more real trustworthy stuff in that above show
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 29 19:10:21 "I have heard that the Pulitzer Prize Board is too embarrassed, or don’t know how, to respond to my letter..." ~pathetic liar no, you haven't ---- "2 down, 8 to go!" ~child the petty dictator cheering that another of the few R's w/ any ethics & morals is not running for re-election (Kinzinger) ------- "INFLATION NATION!" ~America hater hooray!? http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-vznyahesnq0
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 02 22:29:14 here's R leadership's view on climate change: http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1455548347104825344 significantly altering the surface of the planet & churning out pollution can't possibly have any effects
murder Member	Tue Nov 02 22:48:36 Can this thread also be for hoping Biden strokes out so Kamala can take over? I'm sick of senile old men mismanaging this country.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 02 23:31:11 that seems pretty off topic :p but doesn't really matter to me
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 03 14:35:33 Trump taking credit for VA governor win (obviously) & claiming he won VA in 2020... so Dems cast 450,000+ fraudulent votes in VA (& none discovered): http://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1455927196900642816 & calling America a third world country on elections (again)... very appropriate for a former 'president'
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 04 17:07:38 this collection of praise tweets giving Trump credit for all R election wins is posted on Trump's page: http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-webstwhckw0 pretty sure he plays 'good tweet, bad tweet' w/ his staff (as in Succession) but w/o the 'bad tweet' part
murder Member	Fri Nov 05 08:25:58 I'm old enough to remember when the Dixie Chicks got cancelled for being embarrassed that George W Bush was from Texas. Turns out if you are Republican you can say anything about the President or the US at any time with impunity. Phony outrage. Phony "values".
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 05 08:58:38 I'm old enough to remember when the entirety of the entertainment establishment was calling Trump a mushroom dicked Hitler who was a bona fide illegitimate president. You keep clutching those pearls though. The gaslighting that you're attempting here is hilarious.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 05 11:41:31 he certainly was never fit to be president... not even close i imagine R's would have had a big problem if Obama spent his post (& active) presidency undermining all faith in the nation
murder Member	Fri Nov 05 18:26:56 "I'm old enough to remember when the entirety of the entertainment establishment was calling Trump a mushroom dicked ..." By his porn star prostitute. She would know. "... Hitler who was a bona fide illegitimate president." Well he attempted to overthrow the government and make himself dictator so ...
murder Member	Fri Nov 05 18:31:15 I'm also old enough to remember "America, love it or leave it". But they really really hate cancel culture which is totally new.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 05 22:46:42 the infrastructure bill passed... w/ a tiny smattering of R votes even though it was pretty much trimmed to entirely what R's should be fine with... but of course those R's will now all get smeared by the idiot king just getting that prediction on the record
murder Member	Fri Nov 05 23:03:53 Congratulations to the Blue Republican wing of the party.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 23:12:39 TW, Out of all that wrangling the Democrats chose to die on the hill to save a half trillion dollar tax tax cut for wealthiest few. (SALT)
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 23:15:27 Bernie being a notable exception of pointing out how fucked that is. So when they say they lost per k and child care, the Democrats scrapped those by choice to give a tax cut for billionaires. Its an odd day when Bernie and Trump agree in contrast to the rest of the DNC.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 05 23:21:10 don't compare Bernie w/ Trump... Trump would know nothing about what's in any bill
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 05 23:26:00 Trump was the guy who championed and fot the SALT tax cuts for the wealthy repealed.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 05 23:54:34 i don't recall him championing it at all
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 05 23:55:18 i wonder if idiot Marjorie Taylor Greene knows what is in the bill that passed... she sounds as stupid as the moron himself, her post: " These are the 13 “Republicans” who handed over their voting cards to Nancy Pelosi to pass Joe Biden’s Communist takeover of America via so-called infrastructure: Katko Bacon Van Drew Young Upton Kinzinger Gonzales Reed Smith Gabarino Malliotakis Fitzpatrick "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 06 00:05:53 she probably thinks it still has all the non-traditional shit originally in it that Dems were calling infrastructure... & that's probably what Fox is still telling its viewers for that matter
murder Member	Sat Nov 06 03:54:16 "So when they say they lost per k and child care, the Democrats scrapped those by choice to give a tax cut for billionaires." SALT doesn't have anything to do with anything. Manchin and Sinema first split the 2 bills so they could race ahead with the hard infrastructure bill to get it out of Bernie's hands ... and then started gutting the BBB bill. They essentially tore it in half. They've been delaying until the House passed the BIF bill because they are going to keep on gutting the BBB bill. There is nothing the progressives could have agreed to that would have advanced the BBB bill out of the Senate before the BIF bill passed because gutting it more and more was always the plan. The worst part is that Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi were in on it ... and so was Jayapal. Manchin and Sinema delayed the bill while Jayapal and Pelosi slow walked progressives to capitulation. At this point progressives have no leverage and have to vote for whatever the fuck is put in front of them.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 07 11:59:02 Mike Lindell (My Pillow Guy) will have a 96-hour long broadcast Thanksgiving week: "We are going to show every single piece of evidence" so i guess -this- will be the time that convinces everyone that Trump won, rest up it also will include his plan for the next 9 months (to overthrow democracy or something)
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 07 14:34:12 Murder, Its a simple fact that during negotiations on the price of the bill they fought to keep some things and not others. The democrats decided to die on the hill of SALT taxes on the spending bill til 2031 at a cost of half a trillion dollars. How many other things could they have financed like universal pre K and family leave time if they didn't give the top 5% wealthiest taxpayers a half a trillion dollar tax cut. Its an absolute fact that Donald Trump had a more progressive tax plan than Biden because Trump capped them at 10k. The party of tax the rich.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 07 14:50:11 the hazards of those freebasing the fraudosphere: "Middle School Teacher Recorded Making Comments On Hunter Biden, Presidential Election And Vaccines In Classroom" http://los...ion-and-vaccines-in-classroom/ some of what she was telling students: “Hunter Biden, for example, is doing deals with China and Ukraine where he was funneling money illegally. He also had child pornography on his laptop. He was having sexual intercourse with his own niece” & “If you have a baby in the hospital, they don’t want to give it back if you’re not vaccinated. This is a complete power control threat" <bullshit claim spread on social media> & apparently claimed Trump was still president
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 07 14:55:36 TW, I agree, that sort of discussion belongs in a politics/world affairs class and teachers need to stop trying to push their personal political beliefs on children, its dangerous. Mybe now you can understand the feelings parents have when its liberal teachers that donut as well.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 07 16:44:44 they aren't beliefs, just lies (babies are not being held hostage) my issue w/ the CRT shit is the lies... Fox's opinion shows just lie (about every fucking issue), not opinion, lies (& goes beyond Fox, all the shitty info sources the cult goes to)
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