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Habebe
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Mon Nov 22 01:04:28
http://youtu.be/nGRzZKL93GI
Habebe
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Mon Nov 22 01:07:05
http://twi...?t=yZ04gdVSORSPaQX8obCmZA&s=19

The east Asian white supremacist shot 3 black heroes who were peacefully protesting that this uber driver had a car they wanted.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 22 05:58:10
Kind of shocked the video is still up.
Y2A
Member
Mon Nov 22 07:24:07
nothing wrong with true self defense.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 22 09:13:41
Y2a, Im honestly curious what you see as SD in this case and not in Kyle.

Does it boil down to Kyle intentionally going to the riot?
Y2A
Member
Mon Nov 22 18:52:18
I don't know enough about the case to comment with respect to guilt.

What I do know is that it seems reasonable to me that if you see someone with a long arm gun (don't know or care if that's the correct term) running in a crowd and someone yells "he shot someone", that it is perfectly rationale for someone to go and try to grab the gun from them.

In any other context, if the political/racial stuff was disconnected from it a person who would do that would be called a hero.
Y2A
Member
Mon Nov 22 18:54:24
the extreme focus on kyle's right to self defense in the complete absence of the crowd's right to self defense is what I have a real problem with.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 22 18:56:30
Rioters don't have rights to self-defense.
Y2A
Member
Mon Nov 22 19:02:58
yes, dehumanizing people makes it easier to accept violence against them doesn't it?
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 22 19:37:46
Y2a, I won't argue it here, it has plenty of threads of its own, but thank you I genuinely was curious.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 22 19:44:39
http://youtu.be/YCMcZsXytU8

I love rooftop asians.This is why they vote Republican.
Forwyn
Member
Mon Nov 22 23:28:58
"the extreme focus on kyle's right to self defense in the complete absence of the crowd's right to self defense"

Especially in the chaotic storm of a riot and shooting, both parties can be morally justified in their actions and retain self-defense rights.

It's just difficult to litigate.
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