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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 14:30:49
Shit = Donald Jagoff Trump (for the future archaeologists)
Habebe
Member
Sat Nov 27 14:36:01
You should put the year, 2021.

Murder, Yeah they would take a little bit longer to get going but those are his other options.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 17:18:40
"Does anybody really believe that longtime Con Man Bob Woodward, and his lightweight lapdog assistant Robert Costa, are implying in their book of fiction that I was planning to go to war with China, but that one of the dumber generals in the military called the Chinese to tell them that he will inform them if this action proceeds further. Milley may have called, but if so, he should be tried for treason. I never had even a thought of going to war with China, other than the war I was winning, which was on TRADE. To make up stories like this and to sell it to the public is disgraceful. I watched that craggy smug face of Woodward as he "bullshits" the public and said to myself, 'I wonder if history will really believe this stuff?' How do you get your reputation back? I was the only President in decades to not get us into a war — I got us out of wars!

Our Country has been taken over by Scammers and Hoaxsters, and we have to take it back. Just like the Russia, Russia, Russia Scam has now been totally debunked and discredited as a FAKE Democrat/Crooked Hillary Plot, the 'go to war with China' story is even more ridiculous. It's incredible that someone is even allowed to write this stuff. We no longer talk about greatness for our Country, everything is about political investigations, hoaxes, and scams. We will make America Great Again!"
~ Shit

the story was about rumors of attack being around (which was true) & Milley assuaging their fears (that existed)... so story all true & Milley told congress what he did & nothing close to treason occurred... so all of his outrage here is just stupidity, the moron child unable to grasp concepts as always

...and "Russia, Russia, Russia" has not been "totally debunked and discredited as a FAKE Democrat/Crooked Hillary Plot" & i bet he'd claim even the interference debunked as he ALWAYS linked it to his alleged collusion (& even defended them when it had nothing to do w/ his alleged collusion for some mysterious reason... stupidity, mental-illness, compromised... no good reason exists)


"It's incredible that someone is even allowed to write this stuff"

Rugian claimed i wanted silencing of opponents so i guess he'll be disgusted the leader of his party is wanting it... again...


"We no longer talk about greatness for our Country, everything is about political investigations, hoaxes, and scams"

[massive eyeroll]... this from the guy who has smeared every aspect of America continuously for years... & is still accusing our elections of being rigged corrupt third world shit
murder
Member
Sat Nov 27 17:43:34

"Our Country has been taken over by Scammers and Hoaxsters, and we have to take it back."

It was ... and we did.


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 21:46:29
“ Trump has backed seven candidates for state House or Senate seats in Michigan, an electoral battleground that he lost narrowly to Joe Biden last year — more than anywhere else. Most of the endorsements, including Rocha’s, were announced in recent weeks. All of the candidates have one thing in common: They’ve made election administration and investigating last year’s vote central to their platforms.”

http://www...lature-could-help-him-n1284693

totally normal stuff... and I’m sure he cares about all their political views...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Nov 27 21:52:05
which will encourage others in State races or any races to publicly doubt our elections to get his endorsement

i'm sure it's a prerequisite

no one can know he's a loser... who cares what it does to the country
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 29 16:07:04
"
A wealth of new information about the intelligence briefings for Donald Trump and those around him as a presidential candidate in 2016, as president-elect in 2016-17, and as president has just hit the CIA’s public website

...

Reports about President Trump not reading the PDB but taking oral briefings instead get confirmation in the new material.

“He touched it,” Trump’s first full-time PDB briefer said about the president’s book. “He doesn’t really read anything.”

...

As expected, the intel community tailored the PDB to President Trump, reducing the number and length of its articles.

...

While the PDB kept being published every day, Trump got a briefing only two to three times a week. Later in his term, he settled into only two sessions per week, on average.

They just stopped in late 2020; Trump took no PDB briefings for the last month or so of his term.
"
^ my highlights of this guy's highlights:
http://twitter.com/DavidPriess/status/1465150202596274177

not shocking (to me anyway) that he never read his PDBs & barely listened to it... or that he was completely checked out after election... it was non-stop mass fraud claims & 'many calls & meetings from morning to night' as only entry on his daily schedules

totally unfit piece of garbage moron child
murder
Member
Mon Nov 29 16:44:56

A patriot would have ended his term early.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 30 14:04:06
As The GOP Cult Turns:
======================

Rep. Lauren Bohbert jokes about Rep. Ilhan Omar being a suicide bomber (& repeatedly calls her a member of the 'Jihad Squad'... only 2 members i think are even muslim)

Boebert surprisingly was apparently pressured to apologize & gives a weak one, annoying Marjorie T. Greene

----------

Rep. Marjorie T. Greene:
"Democrats want us censored, shut down, and imprisoned.

Never apologize to Islamic terrorist sympathizers, communists, or those who fund murder with our tax dollars.

Ilhan Omar and the Jihad Squad are all three and are undeserving of an apology."

-----------

Rep. Nancy Grace criticizes Boebert's comments, also annoying Marjorie T. Greene.

Rep. Marjorie T. Greene:
"
Nancy Mace is the trash in the GOP Conference.

Never attacked by Democrats or RINO’s (same thing) because she is not conservative, she’s pro-abort.

Mace you can back up off of Lauren Boebert
or just go hang with your real gal pals, the Jihad Squad.

Your out of your league.
"

----------------------

Nancy Mace:
"*you’re

And, while I’m correcting you, I’m a pro-life fiscal conservative who was attacked by the Left all weekend (as I often am) as I defied China while in Taiwan.

What I’m not is a religious bigot (or racist). You might want to try that over there in your little “league.”"

-----------

they are lawmakers

Greene coming off as the most childish & worthless, though not impressed w/ any of them. The only mature one (Nancy Mace) is still pretty two-faced in what she says when on Fox vs what she says when on CNN.
murder
Member
Tue Nov 30 15:59:21

We just keep electing dumber and dumber people to elected office. There are people in Congress that I'm sure must have cheated constantly just to graduate from high school.

I bet the average IQ in Congress is ~ 90 ... and that's with some heavy lifting by the 2/3 that aren't total morons ... because ~ 1/3 of them have to be borderline mentally disabled.



tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 30 16:06:28
(Boebert didn't even graduate high school)

& they will only be getting dumber as the only qualification now is backing a moron fraud child
murder
Member
Tue Nov 30 16:15:29

Yeah but what does that say about the general population? All the toxic chemicals China keeps pumping into the US must be the cause, because I'm old enough to remember when even stupid people wanted people smarter than them running the country.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 30 16:31:09
i think that went out the window with the 'guy you'd have a beer with' qualification that came up for Bush

which was around the time 'intellectual' became an insult
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Nov 30 17:11:16
Marcus Lamb, a prominent Christian broadcaster known for his outspoken opposition to COVID-19 vaccines, has died after contracting the virus.

“There’s no doubt in my mind that this is a spiritual attack from the enemy,” Lamb’s son, Jonathan, said about his father’s COVID-19 illness on a Nov. 23 broadcast of the Ministry Now program. “As much as my parents have gone on here to kind of inform everyone about everything going on to the pandemic and some of the ways to treat COVID — there’s no doubt that the enemy is not happy about that. And he’s doing everything he can to take down my Dad.”

http://rel...istian-broadcaster-dies-at-64/
---------

yes "to kind of inform" & "some ways to treat"... by being anti-vax & pro-hydroxychloroquine
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 01 14:37:22
here's another super secret message meant only for Trump's most loyal supporters... each person (everyone on his mailing list) has been individually evaluated by his team & they rank among the 'top in every category' & now have this exclusive chance at a ball he maybe signed while watching a World Series game... thus sorta sounds like a ball from the game but isn't...

just give him money... & then have that donation doubled... & then again paid every month...

http://pbs...8NCJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 01 18:31:54
according to his lawyer, Jeffrey Clark (was a Trump stooge in the DOJ) is going to plead the fifth rather than answer questions to the Jan 6th committee

amongst other issues Jeffrey Clark drafted a DOJ letter claiming the FBI suspected fraud voting in many states (false) & wanted it sent out to various state legislatures, but multiple other DOJ officials threatened to resign (as it was corrupt bullshit) & it didn't happen


so much shocking behavior went on behind the scenes yet R's just pretending they don't see any of it & still want the anti-democratic shitbag fraud back again...

but, i'll agree w/ Trump on this point: taking the fifth means you're a criminal
murder
Member
Wed Dec 01 19:35:44

"according to his lawyer, Jeffrey Clark (was a Trump stooge in the DOJ) is going to plead the fifth rather than answer questions to the Jan 6th committee"

I hope they don't grant him immunity. If he's telling me that he needs protection from prosecution, I believe him. Get someone else to roll on him.

Habebe
Member
Wed Dec 01 20:13:21
In all fairness Boebert has her GED.

She left Rifle highschool (you cant make that up!) Because she was pregnant.

Not really a hug deal , the house has elected worse, its always crazy in that house. And people like Jergul want that to be the final word without the Senate.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 01 21:20:58
it’s a big deal if they become the norm rather than fringe... Marjorie claims already that they are the party not fringe, unclear if she’s right (their type are Trumps favorites to be sure)

——

here’s another of Tucker’s professional chyrons
http://pbs...WYAYZYpY?format=jpg&name=small

‘Stelter talks like a fag and his shit’s all retarded’
~ a Tucker guest or chyron (soon)
Rugian
Member
Wed Dec 01 21:33:54
To be fair, those kids are fucked if Stelter has to raise them on his own.

“Dealing with hardship actually makes you stronger. That’s what Governor Cuomo said earlier today. That’s what I’m going to go teach my kids right now at home.”

-Stelter in 2020, back when CNN was giving nightly BJs to Andrew Cuomo (which tumbleweed of course later denied ever happened in a particular fit of gaslighting)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 01 21:48:48
i made the point that Cuomo harassment allegations didn't retroactively make his covid pressers bad (like your side of media stupidly pushed)
Habebe
Member
Wed Dec 01 23:14:49
Well no one herenis claiming that FOX is the home of unbias journalism.Or Journalism.

murder
Member
Thu Dec 02 00:27:02

"i made the point that Cuomo harassment allegations didn't retroactively make his covid pressers bad (like your side of media stupidly pushed)"

The fact that people were dying by the truckload and he was hiding the true death count made his press conferences garbage.

And the media fawning over him while all those people died was a disgrace.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 02 14:43:13
"Well no one here is claiming that FOX is the home of unbias journalism.Or Journalism"

some here watch it... but i'm not arguing w/ anyone in particular here, just pointing out what crap they are... here's more:
http://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1466221341200330760

(Tucker talking about Brian Stelter dismissing nanny for not getting vaccine)

"the headline here is CNN's media critic blithely dismissed his little non-white servant because she wouldn't obey" & then Tucker assuming she's starving & going homeless... & deciding Stelter doesn't care about his servants "we don't really care about our servants do we when they disobey"

...or maybe Stelter's nanny is just fine, but he also cares about his child's health


i wonder if Tucker even knows the 'non-white' part for a fact or just made that up too (the rest i'm sure he just made up)... & he has a record of doing that so not too shocking i guess... him having no consequences doing so on a 'news' channel is a bit shocking though...

all Fox's focus on Stelter is weird to begin with... seen Fox twice write entire articles on just the ratings of that guy's show (which is on once a week on Sunday morning...) sure, Stelter criticizes Fox (w/ immensely good reason), but do Fox viewers actually care about his nanny or ratings?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 02 18:22:05
nature is making forests wrong... can't ride horses through them & owls can barely fly through them... according to Dough LaMalfa (R)
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1466555402498154496
animals hate cover
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 02 18:50:44
"Stacey “The Hoax” Abrams has just announced that she’s running for Governor of Georgia. I beat her single-handedly, without much of a candidate, in 2018. I’ll beat her again, but it will be hard to do with Brian Kemp, because the MAGA base will just not vote for him after what he did with respect to Election Integrity and two horribly run elections, for President and then two Senate seats. But some good Republican will run, and some good Republican will get my endorsement, and some good Republican will WIN! "
~ clearly delusional madman


"I beat her single-handedly"

(& he will single-handedly beat her again w/ whatever meaningless person he can find to pledge fealty to him)
Habebe
Member
Thu Dec 02 19:09:11
TW, I watch clips on YT f fox, MSNBC etc. semi regularly.

I personally like Breaking points which just hit the 6 month mark and the Hill is interesting. I like watching news that I may disagree with but isnt pushing one narrative unfairly.
Habebe
Member
Thu Dec 02 19:10:27
Very often I'll watch how a few different shows handle the same event, it can be telling.

It also can reflect the business models.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 02 21:23:22
well Saagar is awful (and Joe Rogan not trustworthy either), but I’m sure you’re better off than most in watching a range at least

———

the only R in the House who didn’t try to shut down govt over debt ceiling was Kinzinger (so in lock step with Trump ranting and ravings). Whereas, In the Senate it passed 69-28 suggesting (again) how nutty and dangerous the Rs in the House are. The infrastructure bill was also not something Rs should nearly all oppose... but the trash are either scared of Trump and blindly follow or are a part of the cult and blindly follow... and what a dumb piece of shit fraud to follow.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 02 22:14:06
apparently Tucker didn't have a problem benefiting off Hunter's name in 2014...

http://pbs...AENtnX?format=jpg&name=900x900
(Tucker thanking Hunter for writing a letter to help Tucker's son get into college)

that was posted by Lin Wood who is total garbage so could be fake... but then again, only people from team total garbage have access to Hunter Biden's almost certainly stolen laptop, since Giuliani wanted full control of info flow... so relying on garbage is the only option
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 03 23:25:24
deranged lunatic, in his tuxedo (perhaps has been in it since that MyPillow interview), standing in empty dining room welcoming invisible Japanese people:

http://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1466951740226428933

(posted by one of his dick suckers so nothing is edited to make him look bad)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 04 12:28:42
"
Every single year more than 600,000 people in the US die from cancer.

The country has never once shut down.

Not a single school has closed.

And every year, over 600,000 people, of all ages and all races will continue to die from cancer.
"
~ Marjorie TG

then she went on w/ some other stupid points but also a few ok points... but how can you be so stupid to lead w/ that cancer thing...

(also Biden hasn't shut down the country & isn't going to shut down the country even though they keep acting like he has/will)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 04 12:42:15
"The best vaccine we've found is Mother Nature's vaccine. It's contracting the virus. That is what has provided the greatest protection over the longest period of time."
~ Matt Gaetz (seen that message from people on Fox too)
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1467200006813798403

'getting the virus is the best protection from the virus'... solid logic (& of course that's getting it w/o vaccine)

also, the 'longer protection' thing seems false or minimally unproven
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 04 14:13:46
standard R politician xmas card:
http://twi...sie/status/1467197523127422979
i'm guessing not too many squirrels in their yard
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 04 22:55:23
"Anybody that doesn't think there wasn't massive Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election is either very stupid, or very corrupt!"
~ corrupt moron

http://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1467310339217924100

that's relayed on his spokeswoman's twitter... (the double negative might get fixed when the intern puts it on the website)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 05 21:45:50
here’s fuckhead claiming that if he hadn’t fired Comey, they may have taken down his presidency (Comey was doing nothing at all to take him down, Trump wasn’t even a target of the investigation)

http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1467674845987016707?s=21

fuckhead also claiming (making up) that those who found it a dumb move (as it kicked off the much broader Mueller investigation, where Trump -did- make himself a target for obstruction) are supposedly calling it an incredible instinctual move by Trump (they are not)


this ‘man’ is mentally unsound. Do not vote for this ‘man’ again nor ever believe anything he says... no idea why anyone ever does...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 06 12:35:27
“The Fake News continues to push the false narrative that I had Covid prior to the first debate. My Chief of Staff Mark Meadows confirmed I did not have Covid before or during the debate..."
~ lying piece of shit

Meadows has no way to confirm that, but also here's the page straight from Meadows' book:
http://pbs...XsAos23_?format=jpg&name=large
(^which specifically says they'll never know if he had it at debate & notes the positive test)

plus there are other parts in book about Trump looking sick to Meadows

one woman from the administration said Meadows never took the virus that seriously & probably didn't think a big deal when writing the book & now being mealymouthed as it created a stir

(the whole book pro-Trump apparently... even a reference to Biden cheating in the election on that very page above)
murder
Member
Mon Dec 06 15:49:43

I appreciate your commitment to your craft. :o)

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 06 16:05:47
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

...so i'm doing a little
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 06 16:06:21
Fox News has confirmed that Devin Nunes plans to retire, with a source saying the lawmaker "got a job offer that he can’t refuse" as CEO of a newly established Trump media organization.

(Devin Nunes is the mentally retarded congressman that R's chose to head the Intelligence committee)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Dec 06 18:21:41
it seems Trump's bargain basement or unpaid spokeswoman still hasn't fixed that double negative statement, and now even the (likely unpaid) intern didn't fix it when adding to the website recently (despite roundly mocked on social media):


"Anybody that doesn’t think there wasn’t massive Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election is either very stupid, or very corrupt! "
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-9wkazhkepw0
(at least, ^that's what currently is there as of posting)
murder
Member
Mon Dec 06 18:59:22

"... as CEO of a newly established Trump media organization."

There's at least a 50/50 chance that Trump first offered the job to Devin Nunes' cow.


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 07 15:42:52
"Vladimir Putin looks at our pathetic surrender in Afghanistan, leaving behind dead Soldiers, American citizens, and $85 billion worth of Military equipment. He then looks at Biden. He is not worried!"
~ el dickbag


the Trump admin made the surrender deal... the $85 billion is nonsense, as it has been all of the dozens of times he's repeated it... plus i'm sure it would've gone so much smoother if anyone had listened to his rushed post-election order to pull out by Jan 15, merely as he wanted credit for it on his watch
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Dec 07 22:44:57
another R xmas card:
http://twitter.com/laurenboebert/status/1468411381653323777
Habebe
Member
Wed Dec 08 01:32:25
Murder, Sometimes commitment to a craft can change people.Look at Alex jones!
Habebe
Member
Wed Dec 08 02:49:26
http://youtu.be/nE_4Rv4x1tM

Look at what they did to Alex Jones!

The man is crazy muttering drunk about having to contemplate eating his neighbors.

How fucked up is some of the shit he has seen to do this to a human being?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 08 12:15:04
"Alex Jones is often mocked for his flamboyance but the truth is he’s been a far better guide to reality in recent years, in other words, a far better journalist than, say, NBC News national correspondent Ken Dilanian or Margaret Brennan of CBS."
~ Tucker (to attack Jan 6th commission for wanting to hear from him)

flamboyance isn't the problem w/ Alex Jones
crudeness isn't the problem w/ Donald Trump
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 08 12:32:53
Trump used to talk like a normal person in the 90s, maybe they both should be taken & studied
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 08 18:01:20
a Fox tweet/article:

"Ted Cruz: Russian invasion of Ukraine would be Biden's fault after Afghanistan 'surrender'"
Habebe
Member
Wed Dec 08 18:26:30
Tumbleweed, Thats an arguably true statement. Everyone called him crazy for talking about the elites having a pedophile island.That was true and its in court now.

I fear your down the path of AJ.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 08 18:35:42
the surrender was negotiated under Trump

the article makes no mention of it
Habebe
Member
Wed Dec 08 18:38:37
"Stelter talks like a fag and his shit’s all retarded’
~ a Tucker guest or chyron (soon)"

He isn't telling a lie.
Rugian
Member
Wed Dec 08 18:40:42
I refuse to believe that Stelter is heterosexual
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Dec 08 18:51:48
semi-related:

"[getting the covid virus] does feminize people. No one ever says that but it's true"
~ Tucker (guy w/ no requirements for saying something is true)

http://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1468704702275670019
Rugian
Member
Wed Dec 08 18:58:46
Pretty easy way to factcheck that. Does getting Covid make your voice sound like Brian Stelter?
Rugian
Member
Wed Dec 08 19:02:35
Brian Stelter's secret is out

http://youtu.be/I1KyMby-lPE
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 09 13:33:15
yet more treason revealed...

here are a couple slides from a powerpoint Mark Meadows turned over titled “Election fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 JAN”:

http://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1468989737490911232

listing more (& some repeated) options for overthrowing democracy... every possible method to trash the election results was considered apparently

looks like they wanted to trash all people who voted on a machine as well as by mail... nothing fucking crazy about that at all


...but i'm sure R's will continue to have no interest or complaints
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 09 16:44:05
The appeals court has rejected Trump's efforts to keep records hidden... so now Trump gets to waste more time sending it to the Supreme Court

(where he will expect the judges he appointed to vote in his favor, as that's how things work in his mafia world)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 09 19:03:09
outrage!!

http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1469105623530815492
(Biden added "women" when paraphrasing Declaration of Independence about people being equal, how dare he!!!)

not even sure who that woman is, but seen multiple clips of her being crazy lately, perhaps a new person & a high quality pick to be sure
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Dec 09 21:44:18
i think this woman will quickly become my most hated Fox host... i should probably figure out her name
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1469103876448026624
here she is w/ a guest totally lying that other networks weren't covering Smollett verdict (they do this regularly: falsely make-up that other networks not covering something)

i know CNN announced it as soon as it came in... & seen it discussed repeatedly
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 12:25:22

Kanye West publicist pressed Georgia election worker to confess to bogus fraud charges

Weeks after the 2020 election, a Chicago publicist for hip-hop artist Kanye West traveled to the suburban home of Ruby Freeman, a frightened Georgia election worker who was facing death threats after being falsely accused by former President Donald Trump of manipulating votes. The publicist knocked on the door and offered to help.

The visitor, Trevian Kutti, gave her name but didn’t say she worked for West, a longtime billionaire friend of Trump. She said she was sent by a “high-profile individual,” whom she didn’t identify, to give Freeman an urgent message: confess to Trump’s voter-fraud allegations, or people would come to her home in 48 hours, and she’d go to jail.
<continues>
...
some video of them talking here: (& the above article is in the second post)
http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1469349954128949251
murder
Member
Fri Dec 10 19:36:40

Amazingly the coercion occurred right in front of a cop and on camera ... and no arrests were made and no charges files.

Habebe
Member
Fri Dec 10 20:36:54
The video shows nothing threatening.Where is the video of the threat?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 21:06:43
it started at the election official’s home, not sure what all is on tape (although the henchwoman continuing to push it at the police station shows there must’ve been real pressure to succeed)

I saw a fuller video somewhere, I’ll look for it later
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 21:23:06
this is a fuller video but still has edits
http://twitter.com/reuters/status/1469281995184168961?s=21
Habebe
Member
Fri Dec 10 21:29:06
Cool thanks.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 21:37:48
from the article:
“Inside the station, Kutti and Freeman met in a corner, according to footage from a body camera worn by an officer present at the meeting. Reuters obtained the video through a public-records request.

“I cannot say what specifically will take place,” Kutti is heard telling Freeman in the recording. “I just know that it will disrupt your freedom," she said, "and the freedom of one or more of your family members.”

“You are a loose end for a party that needs to tidy up,” Kutti continued. She added that “federal people” were involved, without offering specifics.

According to Freeman, Kutti told her that she was going to put a man named “Harrison Ford” on speakerphone. (Freeman said the man on the phone wasn’t the actor by the same name.) Kutti said the man had “authoritative powers to get you protection,” the bodycam footage shows.

At that point, Kutti can be heard asking the officer to give them privacy. The body camera did not capture a clear recording of the conversation that followed after the officer moved away from the two women.

Kutti and the man on the speakerphone, over the next hour, tried to get Freeman to implicate herself in committing voter fraud on Election Day. Kutti offered legal assistance in exchange, Freeman said.

“If you don't tell everything,” Freeman recalled Kutti saying, “you're going to jail.”

Growing suspicious, Freeman said she jumped up from her chair and told Kutti: “The devil is a liar,” before calling for an officer.”
http://new...pressed-georgia-111401179.html

the stuff up to Harrison Ford is in that fuller recording (“who is Harrison Ford?” blasphemy!)... the audio of stuff done after in private should be sent to our top CSI team (a TV one would be appropriate for this craziness that goes on with Trump)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 22:27:06
so to sorta summarize...

an election worker (Freeman) is living in fear from a massive quantity death threats incited by the former president's made-up bullshit.... she gets a visit from a random stranger (Kutti) who says Freeman's in danger... Freeman calls 911, they end up at police station

then paraphrasing (it's all on video above):
Kutti: 'hi, i'm a random stranger, and somehow i know the life of you & your family are in danger from an unspecified thing happening in the next 48 hrs & there are Feds involved & you can trust no one, so i'll put you in touch with random stranger Harrison Ford (not -the- Harrison Ford) & we'll move you to someplace safe... you have no problem being abducted by strangers do you?'

then they talk in more privacy... Freeman's claim of pressure to confess to election fraud doesn't seem to be on tape although it fits with the nuttery & what exactly is prompting Trump-supporting Kutti to be doing this?

if Kutti is actually believing Feds are coming for Freeman, then it fits w/ the fucked up crazy shit cultists believe... so was probably a 'just confess, we'll protect you from the Feds who will try to silence you... in 48 hrs... that we know is coming somehow' [as the DOJ/Feds were in on the 'steal' according to the former president... so fit!]

if Kutti doesn't actually believe what she's saying, then deliberate deception doesn't suggest positive motives
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 22:37:14
here's Fuckhead McGee lying about gas prices in California again (done many times):
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1469509449727442951
(& he tends to raise the alleged CA price slightly every time he mentions it... as is his way)
& the $1.87 price he keeps using (usually saying 'a year ago') is also a lie too of course, because how could he say something true?


and i'm gonna guess Ingraham didn't note he's a lying piece of shit
Habebe
Member
Fri Dec 10 22:58:43
Meh, politicians exaggerate constantly. Trump always exaggerates, its his thing.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Dec 10 23:04:55
or he just fucking lies every time he speaks

CA gas prices are not $7.77
and there's absolutely no reason to believe other parts of the country are going to be 'catching up' to that fake number

he just makes shit up, that's all he does... i guarantee he made no policy argument, was just to imply he'd be better than Biden based on bullshit & to pretend no price increases would've occurred if people had just ignored the election results as he urged numerous people to do... (& he is now working to replace all those who wouldn't play ball at State & Federal levels)
Habebe
Member
Sat Dec 11 00:13:41
$7.59 and yes I know it was only one town.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 12:18:08
one remote station at a small cluster of buildings along the highway... no town... & in no way representative of CA

so in no way is a listener to Trump going to know CA actual prices are 40% less than his claim... (plus obviously was a no-thought made-up lie that 'a lot of rest of the country will be catching up' toward that fake price)

Fox putting him on the air proves they hate their audience (although most of their hosts exist to misinform so also proof they hate their audience)

calling it entertainment doesn't change the fact they are completely misinforming their audience (& Trump isn't hoping people know he's just lying every time he speaks)
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 11 12:23:50
You're calling THIS a lie, when I had to pull tooth and nail just to get you to admit that "Jim Crow on steroids" was "an acceptable form of lying?"

Stop pretending you care about the truth at all.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 12:28:44
do you actually want to go on the record claiming Biden lies approximately the same (or even more) than Trump?

go for it... can whatever integrity you have allow you to type those words?

Trump is in a class of his own on lying (in quantity & in utter lack of attachment to reality, he just doesn't care)
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 11 12:51:29
Do you actually want to deny that you could easily fill a whole thread series with Biden "lies," if you judged every statement he made with the same severity that you do Trump's?

For example, Biden just put out a statement crediting himself for the 6 million new jobs created since January 2020. Most people would see that, realize that he was posturing by taking credit for something that he really had nothing to do with, and move on with their lives.

If Trump had said that exact same thing though, you would 100% have been making posts about how "this fraud idiot had NOTHING to do with the jobs market...serial liar etc. etc. etc."

Easy to fill up a couple dozen threads when your threshold for calling out bullshit is that low.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 13:03:37
so your problem is i'm focusing on the MUCH worse person?

Biden bragging about job #s under pandemic is stupid, there, happy? (& Trump DID do the same thing when there was a bounce back after the shutdown)
Rugian
Member
Sat Dec 11 13:09:28
Tumbleweed

Biden is a much worse president than Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 13:32:55
Trump didn't do the job so hard to compare

and unless you're a fan of the Greene, Gosar, Gaetz, Gohmert & Boebert idiot brigade, you should wish Trump would go away too

those are the types he favors & is working to pack the party/cult with

loyalty is the ONLY prerequisite... & that's loyalty to a disgusting piece of filth fraud liar, so what type does that attract?
Habebe
Member
Sat Dec 11 16:17:33
Biden has been an utter failure. He started out ok the first 100 days.

Now he is Jimmy Carter 2.0
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 16:37:55
Trump & his administration were separate entities... Trump was rarely on the same page and multiple times flat out contradicted them

they did what they did, he watched TV to find out what was going on & tweeted all his random thoughts & golfed at his properties nearly every weekend


he was like some unstable guy wearing a team's mascot outfit dancing around at a game, but not actually the official mascot
Habebe
Member
Sat Dec 11 17:01:34
Donyou preffered the Trump admin., just not Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 17:59:08
every member of his administration was more fit than he was... even Kayleigh McEnany

but it definitely still had lots of garbage... like Kayleigh McEnany

i don't think any of them had the complete detachment from truth that Trump has... others knew they were lying & did it for a purpose

...& were able to recognize a tweet from a random person/bot wasn't necessarily a reliable source
(nor Putin, nor Xi, nor Saudis, nor Netanyahu)
Habebe
Member
Sat Dec 11 18:17:08
Inloved Kaleigh.Very prepared and easy on the eyes.

Do you agree Biden as of now is the head of a failed administration?

Eerily similar to Carter.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 18:50:47
10.5 months into his administration? no

i would abandon the vaccine mandate though

i do know he didn't actually cancel Dr Seuss, nor restrict hamburger consumption, nor send goons to homes to forcibly vaccinate, nor cause the gas price increase, nor the global supply chain problems

& the Afghanistan withdrawal was destined to be messy

the infrastructure bill seemed fine & should have had way more R votes (& those who voted no will still play up the benefits to their voters)
Habebe
Member
Sat Dec 11 19:42:56
Well I agree he isn't winning any support with the mandates.

And your right, those things you listed were not actions taken by Biden or his admin.

But Afghanistan? Thats on him.

Gas prices? Thats on him.

Even the economy in general, it may not be his fault but the potus gets blamed for that.

And he hasnt done much to try and ease the burden.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Dec 11 21:32:47
well, i'm extremely pleased Trump is not in office

gas prices would still have gone up, the global supply chain would still have issues, Afghanistan would have gone just as messily or worse as he wanted it done faster (if we even got out at all, military might have convinced him to stay to 'keep the oil'... & some of his team has claimed (lied) that he didn't really plan on leaving) & far fewer people would be vaccinated (he put zero effort into encouraging it, including hiding his own vaccination, if he even got it... he & his team lie extremely regularly so who knows)

plus we'd have a mentally unfit child fraud with no respect for law or democracy, who learns absolutely nothing, who regularly just makes shit up, who smears any decent people or organizations that point out his lies or get in his way, who loves spreading division, & who actively dislikes experts & professionals ('stiffs')... 'leading' the ship again
Habebe
Member
Sat Dec 11 22:39:11
Gas prices are thoroughly controlled by OPEC and Biden bent over backwards to piss of its most prominent member.

Then he made it more difficult to ramp up domestic supply.He boxed himself in a corner.

He could relax sanctions on Iran and Venezuela but lets be honest that's its own can of worms.

Trump handled foriegn policy especially in the ME very well.

This Admin. Has only had success in in building anti Chinese partnerships, which I think they should get more praise for.

I'm not sure Afghanistan could have gone any worse.

I definitely think more people would be vaccinated. Especially Republicans.

Politicians exaggerating doesnt phase me. Find me one that doesn't.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 12 12:12:01
is telling people that mass fraud is being proven all over the place just exaggeration?

is telling the DOJ to just say they found fraud when they didn't just exaggeration? (same for GA secretary of state, & who knows who all he called)

--------

Chris Wallace is leaving Fox News & joining CNN+

he was one of their only news people
Habebe
Member
Sun Dec 12 12:54:23
"is telling people that mass fraud is being proven all over the place just exaggeration?"

No, Hillarry made all that up about Russia.Your right.
Habebe
Member
Sun Dec 12 12:57:13
http://www....com/article/amp/idUSKCN1R72S0

You act like Trump is the only one that lies. Then your argument will be Trumps is so much worse because he did it on a Saturday with a blue tie, so its worse.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 12 15:28:41
Hillary did not... Russia was not a hoax... & she did nothing remotely close to what Trump did & is continuing to do


also as far as collusion... Trump Jr's meeting alone is practically all you need

- Trump knew about it w/ 99% certainty (based on logic & his announcement of a speech on brand new Hillary dirt that he made just before meeting)
- they thought it was the Russian gov't wanting to help, they accepted

the only reason it failed is -Russia- didn't come through w/ good enough material, otherwise collusion

so in terms of judging Trump, he did it... it's like if he tried to rape someone but she fought him off & escaped... is he now innocent? oh, he didn't rape, she got away, no big deal


although, doesn't matter if you buy any of that, people didn't lose faith in the elections because of 2016 (plus the interference was real, Trump colluding or not doesn't impact whether the election was fair)... plus Hillary isn't spending her time working to primary & replace multitudes of people... replacing people w/ ethics with those who have none

Hillary conceded the morning after

Trump never has, never will & will continue to claim our elections rigged & full of fraud forever & lie about that fraud being found everywhere & try to get all those w/ moral fiber removed from office

he is an awful person
Habebe
Member
Sun Dec 12 15:43:58
You lost me at Russia was not a hoax.

HRC took a different route. She formally conceded BUT spread lies and misinformation about Russia and people like you beleive it because Trump said nice stuff about Russia....the rest was made up by HRC and her employees.

If Trump had a lawyer who got caught making up random stories to the FBI you would be all over it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 12 16:04:37
"You lost me at Russia was not a hoax"

well this is actually sad... not criticizing you, just the Right's media (& Joe Rogan who also bought their bullshit)

Durham has charged 2 people:
- 1 person - who brought the Alfa bank info to FBI (was not a big story) & he was charged only for not revealing he represented Hillary, not because info fabricated
- 1 person for lying to FBI (& Steele) about some things in Steele's dossier

when the dossier first became public (which was AFTER election) Steele himself said it was raw intelligence & estimated 70% accuracy (i noted this at the time... if any history searches work, find me saying "70%" or "raw intel")... so stuff being false was expected (& i know i never read it & never relied on it)

the dossier was NEVER the origin, even though Fox News tried over & over & over to make people think so after learning Hillary hired the company who hired Steele

the investigation started before the FBI ever saw that dossier... & it was focused on 4 people in Trump's campaign, who all deserved to be looked into as every review has found, the dossier was integral to nothing

plus people believing Trump had a weird relationship w/ Russia is because he kept saying 'we should be friends w/ Russia' and defending them on all issues... even R's were confused... plus he asked Russia to help find Hillary's emails publicly... there was plenty of reasons for the public to be suspicious & from stuff all pre-dating dossier

& as noted, the dossier wasn't revealed before election, so Hillary faking it makes no sense

so the investigation in no way has been shown to be a hoax, and Russian interference to help Trump confirmed by EVERYONE (except mentally challenged Trump capo Devin Nunes)


(& Trump morally is guilty of collusion... only failed as Russia didn't come through... do you think if he was given good info he would've decided 'this feels wrong, i shouldn't use it'?... even AFTER Helsinki, he said in an interview he'd be fine taking info from foreign countries (then adults had to give him a talk & get him to pretend he didn't really mean it))
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 12 16:15:38
...plus we still don't know what Manafort was up to

although the Don Jr meeting is sufficient to judge Trump's ethics... plus all his own words & actions which show he clearly has no moral fiber in any aspect of his life & is fine doing anything to win, well beyond accepting help from foreign countries, we now know he's willing to deceive the public to trash their votes or ignore voting altogether, which is much much worse
Habebe
Member
Sun Dec 12 19:35:56
"person - who brought the Alfa bank info to FBI (was not a big story) & he was charged only for not revealing he represented Hillary, not because info fabricated"

But it was fabricated, whether or not he got charged for it doesn't really matter.

Hrc hired a lawyer to feed made up Russia stories to make Trump look bad. What in that statement is wrong?
Habebe
Member
Sun Dec 12 19:36:49
Wrong as in inaccurate.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 12 21:33:28
what is your evidence for it being fabricated?

also it wasn’t a major story, I had to look it up when those charges happened

also, how does that make all of the Russia saga a hoax?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Dec 12 22:14:16
apparently Herschel Walker (Trump's pick for GA senate) has his own Don Jr son:

http://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1470225633355653121

he seems very likeable...
Habebe
Member
Sun Dec 12 22:39:51
Didn't he admit he lied? I might be mixing him up.

How about the Russian bounties. Even if you by your argument that it was sincere from the beginning.It didnt pan ouy either.

If anything there seems to be more evidence come to light that HRC was colluding with the Kremlin.
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