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murder Member	Sat Nov 27 18:19:42 ... the Netherlands yesterday. No word yet on if it's the new strain, but that's a lot of positive cases for 2 flights. Basically 10% of all the passengers. --------------------------------------- 61 travellers from South Africa in Netherlands positive for COVID-19 -authorities By Toby Sterling AMSTERDAM, Nov 26 (Reuters) - Dutch health authorities said that 61 people who arrived in Amsterdam on two flights from South Africa on Friday tested positive for COVID-19, and they were conducting further testing early Saturday to see if any of the infections are with the recently discovered Omicron coronavirus variant. Around 600 passengers arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on the two KLM flights on Friday and then faced hours of delays and testing due to concerns over the new virus variant. The Dutch health ministry said early Saturday 61 tests had come back positive. "Travelers with a positive test result will be placed in isolation at a hotel at or near Schiphol," health authorities said in a statement. "Of the positive test results, we are researching as quickly as possible whether they are the new variant of concern, now named 'Omicron'." The Dutch government banned all air travel from southern Africa early on Friday. Health Minister Hugo de Jonge determined that passengers already en route to the Netherlands would have to undergo testing and quarantine upon arrival. Passengers on the two KLM flights, from Cape Town and Johannesburg, said they were kept waiting on the tarmac for hours. "Vigorous applause because there is a BUS that has come to take us ... somewhere," tweeted New York Times journalist Stephanie Nolen, a passenger on the flight from Johannesburg who later said she had tested negative. "Bus to a hall to a huge queue. I can see COVID testers in bright blue PPE far on the distance. Still no snacks for the sad babies," she added in a second tweet. A spokesperson for the health authorities in Kennemerland, the Dutch region that oversees Schiphol, said the positive cases were being analysed by an academic medical hospital to determine whether they are the new strain. The new variant has been detected just as many European countries are grappling with a surge in coronavirus cases. The Dutch government separately on Friday announced the nighttime closure of bars, restaurants and most stores as it tries to curb a record-breaking wave of COVID-19 cases that is swamping its healthcare system. http://www...-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 28 04:19:46 There was a swedish family among them, and she said (to a swedish newspaper) that people were complaining about having to quarantine. Complaining about having to sit in quarantine? Wtf. Who are these people? She also said that all the people who tested negative were kept in the same crowded space as everyone else, and that that was "an unnecessary risk". I just want to say that if she is worried about "unnecessary risks", then why the fuck is she travelling around the world during a pandemic. Why isn't she staying at home and keeping her mouth shut. Now she is probably back in Sweden where she will put people at risk because she was dumb enought to travel and get stuck with covid-infected people.
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 28 04:22:42 "Vigorous applause because there is a BUS that has come to take us ... somewhere," tweeted New York Times journalist Stephanie Nolen," I wish the bus took all of them to a concentration camp.
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 28 07:19:43 So they are being kept in quarintine against their will? Will Europe just stop enslaving Africans, you would think they would grow bored of this.
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 28 08:59:12 Most quarintines are probably against people’s will. Except maybe in the US where people are happy to quarintine.
TheChildren Member	Sun Nov 28 09:14:29 wasnt they already on a small plane packed like sardines sittin next 2 all these peoples coughin and blowin air deliberately in peoples faces for like 10 hours... why they complainin bout sittin in da same room. lmao
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 28 09:25:18 "then why the fuck is she travelling around the world during a pandemic." She's living her life. You should be too.
Paramount Member	Sun Nov 28 09:44:22 ” wasnt they already on a small plane packed like sardines sittin next 2 all these peoples” Exactly. But she didn’t complain about ”unnecessary risk” then.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Nov 28 13:39:34 The plane in the air is pretty safe. Hulls leak pretty fast with such low pressure outside and are replenished rapidly by those mighty engines. ...waiting on the ramp for hours... not so much.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Nov 28 13:41:31 But ya, 10% of the south african population is infected at one point in time? I suppose thats good news actually... if that sort of infection rate is not resulting in mass death, we are in good shape, especially vaxed people.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Nov 28 13:44:22 20% of the covid cases on those flights were the new strain.
murder Member	Sun Nov 28 13:49:32 I guess we have ourselves some useful data. Now they just have to keep track of the other passengers, and how many if any of those already infected shit the bed.
TheChildren Member	Sun Nov 28 14:07:25 sounds like denial... this variant is already spread over da world. its already found in canada, us, europe and aussieland. u livin in denial son? keep track? lololol. its already in ur country as well. and it will replace delta coz it is sooo much more potent. it over.
murder Member	Mon Nov 29 07:53:05 I still can't get over the Dutch just sending the negative cases on their way after they were packed like sardines with a bunch of covid positive passengers ... including 13 cases of the new variant. Omicron may be highly infectious, but stupid spreads faster.
murder Member	Mon Nov 29 08:29:28 Couple detained on plane after leaving Dutch quarantine Dutch military police have arrested a husband and wife who left a hotel where they were being quarantined after testing positive for COVID-19 and boarded a plane bound for Spain The Associated Press - November 29, 2021, 10:25 AM THE HAGUE, Netherlands -- Dutch military police arrested a husband and wife Sunday who had left a hotel where they were being quarantined after testing positive for COVID-19 and boarded a plane. Local media reported that the couple were trying to fly home to Spain. A spokeswoman for the local security authority that covers Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport said Monday that an investigation was underway into whether the couple had committed a crime and should be prosecuted. “Quarantine is not obligatory, but we assume people will act responsibly,” spokeswoman Petra Faber said. “But there was a couple that wanted to go home and they tried to fly home. The Royal Marechaussee took them off the plane and handed them back to the local health authority.” When authorities heard the couple had left the hotel, the head of the local security authority, Marianne Schuurmans, quickly signed an isolation order that empowered the Marechaussee police force to detain the couple. "These people they are now in enforced isolation no longer in our municipality but in a hospital elsewhere in the Netherlands,” Faber said. Authorities, citing privacy rules, declined to give more detail about the couple or whether they had tested positive for the new omicron variant of the coronavirus. A total of 624 people arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on Friday on two flights from South Africa. Tests showed that 61 of them had COVID-19 and sequencing of samples has so far shown that at least 13 of them have the new variant. Schuurmans told Dutch broadcaster WNL “it is incomprehensible that people who had tested positive would do this.” http://abc...ving-dutch-quarantine-81441911
murder Member	Mon Nov 29 08:31:46 They left quarantine and boarded another plane. lol :o)
Paramount Member	Mon Nov 29 09:54:50 ” These people they are now in enforced isolation no longer in our municipality but in a hospital elsewhere in the Netherlands” Drugged and strapped to a bed.
murder Member	Mon Nov 29 11:07:04 They should have had guards outside of their rooms to prevent this. God knows if they infected others before they were apprehended.
Forwyn Member	Mon Nov 29 11:20:41 "Quarantine is not obligatory" lol
Habebe Member	Mon Nov 29 13:18:14 I remember the Netherlands was rated the least cool nation.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Nov 29 18:39:38 "Dutch military police have arrested a husband and wife who left a hotel where they were being quarantined after testing positive for COVID-19 and boarded a plane bound for Spain" Shoot em.
Nekran Member	Tue Nov 30 02:29:59 "if that sort of infection rate is not resulting in mass death, we are in good shape, especially vaxed people." They have a really young population though... but yeah, let's hope so.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Nov 30 09:43:49 True, theres definitely some caveats there. It could be early in the infection cycle too.
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