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Nekran
Member
Sat Dec 04 09:11:56
Week 12's results:

murder 37.5
Cherub Cow 32.5 (+3.5)
kargen 30
Nekran 27.5 (+7.5)
Forwyn 25.5
Sam Adams 22
patom 21 (+7.5)
swordtail 20
CrownRoyal 18
nhill 11

Thursday
DET chi 3
lv DAL 7.5***
NO buf 6.5

Sunday
ten NE 6.5
MIA car 2***
NYG phi 3.5***
nyj HOU 2.5***
IND tb 3
JAC atl 1.5
pit CIN 4.5
DEN lac 3***
min SF 3.5
lar GB 0.5
cle BAL 3.5

MNF
sea WAS 0.5


The options for Week 13 are below. Your pick must be posted in this thread prior to kickoff of the game you are picking. Lots of high scores to be had this week. I suggest we start allowing double picks in week 14? That's 4 weeks for making double picks and getting back on top.

Underdog listed first. Home team in CAPS.

Sunday
ATL tb 10.5
lac CIN 3
CHI az 7.5
NYJ phi 6.5
DET min 7.5
HOU ind 10.5
nyg MIA 6
jac LAR 12.5
was LV 1
PIT bal 4.5
SEA sf 3
den KC 9.5

MNF
ne BUF 2.5
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Sat Dec 04 09:19:23
jac LAR 12.5
Nekran
Member
Sat Dec 04 09:30:07
ne BUF 2.5

Really don't like the selection this week... though undoubtedly there's a big score to be had.
murder
Member
Sat Dec 04 10:04:21

den KC 9.5

*fingers crossed* :o)

patom
Member
Sat Dec 04 10:37:42
nyg MIA 6
patom
Member
Sat Dec 04 10:39:42
nyg MIA 6
murder
Member
Sat Dec 04 10:54:18

The Giants & Dolphins are playing a double-header?

Sam Adams
Member
Sat Dec 04 12:46:12
CHI az 7.5
CrownRoyal
Member
Sat Dec 04 15:20:48
NYJ phi 6.5
kargen
Member
Sat Dec 04 19:18:23
PIT bal 4.5
nhill
Member
Sat Dec 04 19:28:44
NYJ phi 6.5
nhill
Member
Sat Dec 04 19:28:58
I’m losing badly :(
Forwyn
Member
Sat Dec 04 20:13:22
nyg MIA 6
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Dec 05 04:34:22
SEA sf 3

Sooooo many bad options this week! I love it.
"Our kinda day!"
http://youtu.be/QiwItbTiqAs?t=145
murder
Member
Sun Dec 05 09:22:50

"I’m losing badly"

No you're not. You're losing like a pro. :o)

nhill
Member
Sun Dec 05 20:30:53
You're only being nice because you're in 1st place. :P
murder
Member
Mon Dec 06 08:37:12

Not for long. CC and Kargen are hunting me down as if I was a negro out for a jog in the deep South. :o(



murder
Member
Mon Dec 06 08:39:37

So far the winners this week are ...

kargen: PIT bal 4.5
Cherub Cow: SEA sf 3

And Nekran still has a chance.

Nekran
Member
Mon Dec 06 08:50:16
I regret not succumbing to the detroit temptation I had... I consider the pats favorites tonight though, so I do assume I'm going to get that modest gain.
murder
Member
Mon Dec 06 08:56:53

You're like the guy following in the 2nd pickup truck filming the whole thing.

This isn't going to turn out well for anybody.

Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Dec 07 04:42:12
[murder]: "Not for long. CC and Kargen are hunting me down as if I was a negro out for a jog in the deep South. :o("

Lulz. That trial reached its verdict, but one thing it established is that Ahmaud Arbery was *not* out for a harmless jog.

• Arbery had been sighted in the neighborhood before; Arbery had been caught entering that house several times before and as recently as about 12 days before the shooting — even under cover of night (that's not at all suspicious!).
• Arbery had a criminal record which included a weapons charge and a 2017 arrest for theft. He had been caught looking into cars in 2018. He had a pattern of running from places where he was caught stealing, claiming to be a jogger and threatening violence (e.g., in 2019 and 2020 he had stolen items from convenience stores with this same strategy, fighting with people who confronted him).
• the neighborhood had experienced a rash of thefts, and that home had reported missing tools.
• Arbery was caught on video *walking* on the sidewalk, then walked to the house, paused, then looked around for witnesses, then approached the house looking for an entrance, then entered.
• A neighbor observed Arbery's entrance and called 911.
• Arbery was in the house for about 4 minutes before *running* out of the house. Most "joggers" simply taking a curious peak (if there even is such an animal) would probably at least walk back onto the sidewalk or street rather than bolting from the doorway of the house.
• So, when Arbery was pursued, he had just entered a private residence, likely to steal construction materials.
• The 911 caller reported that Arbery may be armed, his pursuers were made aware of this, and his pursuers equipped themselves with that in mind, intending to film Arbery so that his image could be given to police.
• Arbery did what he does, running away, attacking his pursuers, and in this case grabbing a shotgun (the prosecution does not dispute this, btw), and was then shot.

That said, the people who pursued may have been over-charged, but they used lethal weapons (vehicles), and made the idiotic decision to block (partly) the road while pursuing Arbery (though I understand the argument that Arbery could have gone around rather than attacking, the best move by the pursuers at this point would be to pull into a driveway and film Arbery running past), so this wasn't a *huge* injustice in prosecution, though it certainly was one for the filmer.

There were potentially bad jury instructions by the judge regarding citizen's arrest laws (the question of Arbery's felony versus misdemeanor trespassing and the question of imminent knowledge of Arbery's actions and potential possession of a weapon), and the pursuers were very likely over-charged and over-convicted, but I don't think this is the sensational case you think it is. This was not the media lie of a "modern lynching", and this was not just a "jogger" who was killed for being black. The real story is that Arbery was a criminal doing criminal shit, he got caught, but the people who tried to stop him got in over their heads and left themselves vulnerable to prosecution.
murder
Member
Tue Dec 07 05:41:02

"but one thing it established is that Ahmaud Arbery was *not* out for a harmless jog."

Actually that wasn't established. Not in any way shape or form.

murder
Member
Tue Dec 07 05:43:02

This weeks winners are ...

kargen: PIT bal 4.5
Cherub Cow: SEA sf 3
Nekran: ne BUF 2.5

Congratulations ... and fuck you all for cutting into my lead.

Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Dec 07 10:38:45
"Actually that wasn't established. Not in any way shape or form."

lol.
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