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Peter Walsh
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Tue Jan 11 13:23:46
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Peter Walsh
Member
Tue Jan 11 13:27:30
To help their guy play tennis in Australia
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jan 11 14:19:09
Probably. It's Serbia after all.
murder
Member
Tue Jan 11 17:01:44

I'm not really sure what that image shows but I just assume that anything Novak Djokovic says is bullshit.

murder
Member
Wed Jan 12 07:41:43

AFP News Agency @AFP

#UPDATE Djokovic admits meeting a journalist when he knew he had Covid-19, calling it an "error of judgement" and concedes he submitted false declaration to Australian government about his travel history, but blames his agent

http://twitter.com/AFP/status/1481109656739082242


Sam Adams
Member
Wed Jan 12 09:48:16
Jail for a month.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Jan 12 09:53:17
Or even better, 10 year ban from aussieland. No more kangaroo open for you.
murder
Member
Fri Jan 14 02:25:58

ABC News @ABC

Australian government’s immigration minister says he canceled Novak Djokovic’s visa “on health and good order grounds, on the basis that it was in the public interest to do so.”

http://twitter.com/ABC/status/1481900915829444608

Rugian
Member
Sat Jan 15 08:50:33
Australia is such a fucking joke now.

It may still be a democracy, but it is no longerrors a part of Western Civilization. Those idiots share more in common ideologically with China than us.
murder
Member
Sat Jan 15 09:09:56

Imagine not allowing entitled stars to get away with ignoring laws just because they think they're special.

Outrageous!

Rugian
Member
Sat Jan 15 10:37:46
The laws themselves are idiotic and ridiculous.
murder
Member
Sat Jan 15 11:10:30

It doesn't matter if they are idiotic and ridiculous. If he didn't like them then he shouldn't have flown thousands of miles to violate them.

Rugian
Member
Sat Jan 15 11:58:59
I am perfectly fine from banning Australia from hosting future sports events, if you are as well.
murder
Member
Sat Jan 15 17:04:03

I can say with absolute certainty that Australia is more relevant than Novak Djokovic, and will remain so long after Novak's entire bloodline is dead and gone.

Rugian
Member
Sat Jan 15 17:13:08
Australia is a minor country that will be a Chinese vassal state in 50 years' time. You can't get more irrelevant than that.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 16 05:48:04
Table tennis is a much more efficient use of space. Tennis should be banned.
murder
Member
Sun Jan 16 07:58:24

Update: The little bitch lost his appeal.

Eat a dick antivaxxers!

murder
Member
Sun Jan 16 08:42:57

Damn ... now I'm going to have to reevaluate my position. :o\


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Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

BREAKING: Covid rule cheat, immigration form liar, & anti-vaxxer icon Novak Djokovic loses final appeal against deportation & will be thrown out of Australia without being able to compete in Aus Open. Good.

murder
Member
Sun Jan 16 08:55:55

Yep. :o)


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Bobby Duke @BobbyDuke1

Conservatives suddenly oppose immigration rules

http://twitter.com/BobbyDuke1/status/1482705410981343236

Pillz
Member
Sun Jan 16 10:05:38
murder consumes jizz by the gallon
Rugian
Member
Sun Jan 16 10:09:33
Leftists like murder would have preferred that he snuck into the country illegally, he wouldn't be subject to any Covid protocols whatsoever.
murder
Member
Sun Jan 16 11:23:18

murder would prefer if everyone gave a shit about the health and welfare of others. But given that sociopaths are a healthy portion of the population, I would have preferred that Australia give him a pair of water wings and told him to swim home.

Rugian
Member
Sun Jan 16 11:25:21
"murder would prefer if everyone gave a shit about the health and welfare of others."

...

Questions of civil liberties and the inherent powers of government aside...

Vaccines. Don't. Stop. You. From. Spreading. Covid. To. Others. You. Moron.
murder
Member
Sun Jan 16 12:15:47

That is false. Vaccines induce the body to fight off infection. That means that at minimum a vaccinated person will have a lower virus load which means that they are less infectious.

Rugian
Member
Sun Jan 16 12:35:33
*claims what i said was false*

*types out a bunch of bs that doesn't even contradicts what i said*
Pillz
Member
Sun Jan 16 14:19:09
It apparently doesn't reduce it enough for you to cry and bitch that the world is still ending.
kargen
Member
Sun Jan 16 15:10:06
murder that depends on the vaccine.

"A growing body of preliminary research suggests the Covid vaccines used in most of the world offer almost no defense against becoming infected by the highly contagious Omicron variant.

All vaccines still seem to provide a significant degree of protection against serious illness from Omicron, which is the most crucial goal. But only the Pfizer and Moderna shots, when reinforced by a booster, appear to have initial success at stopping infections, and these vaccines are unavailable in most of the world.

The other shots — including those from AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson and vaccines manufactured in China and Russia — do little to nothing to stop the spread of Omicron, early research shows. And because most countries have built their inoculation programs around these vaccines, the gap could have a profound impact on the course of the pandemic."
nhill
Member
Sun Jan 16 19:13:06
All the spread arguments are off with Omicron, which is more contagious than measles. Doesn't matter if the vaccines reduce the likelihood of spread when the R0 is so high anyways.

murder was correct that the vaccines slow down the spread of COVID, but Rugian's claim, which is also correct, is they don't stop you from spreading.
murder
Member
Mon Jan 17 08:33:18

No vaccine, no French Open for Djokovic, says French Sports ministry

PARIS, Jan 17 (Reuters) - Novak Djokovic could be barred from playing in the French Open as things stand now after the Sports Ministry said on Monday there would be no exemption from France's new vaccine pass law.

World number one Djokovic, who has not been vaccinated against COVID-19, was deported from Australia on Sunday before the first Grand Slam tournament of the year after losing a court case to have the cancellation of his visa overturned.

France's vaccine pass law, approved by parliament on Sunday, will require people to have a certificate of vaccination to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes, cinemas and long-distance trains.

"The rule is simple. The vaccine pass will be imposed, as soon as the law is promulgated, in establishments that were already subject to the health pass," the ministry said.

"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice.

"Now, as far as Roland Garros is concerned, it's in May. The situation may change between now and then and we hope that it will be more favourable. So we'll see, but clearly there's no exemption."

Serbian Djokovic, who was barred from bidding to win a record 21st Grand Slam title at the Australian Open, has refused to vaccinate and was criticised for attending public events last month after testing positive for the coronavirus.

http://www...ch-sports-ministry-2022-01-17/

murder
Member
Mon Jan 17 08:34:32

lol @ Djokovic :o)

Rugian
Member
Mon Jan 17 08:44:40
You have lost the plot murder. I do feel sorry for you.
murder
Member
Mon Jan 17 09:00:22

I feel sorry for me to. But why do you feel sorry for me?

There is an entire format of entertainment that revolves around laughing at stupid people suffering the consequences of their stupidity. How is this any different?

Pillz
Member
Tue Jan 18 08:03:03
Because the dissolution of the institution we call liberal democracy isn't meant to be celebrated, you knuckle dragging shit for brains mexican
murder
Member
Tue Jan 18 08:35:03

I checked ... it turns out that liberal democracy doesn't have a fuck to do with vaccination.

It does seem to involve voting rights though. Maybe you can get upset over laws to restrict those.

Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 18 08:47:13
No ones voting rights are getting restricted you cretin.

Also, I never realized that liberal values could accommodate an authoritarian state that could literally forces its citizens to inject experimental drugs into their bodies.

Having learned about liberal values in America (and not, say, communist Cuba), i always thought that they involves governments of limited and enumerated powers that were specifically restricted in their use of authority in order to prevent descents into tyranny.

Silly me.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Jan 18 08:47:14
Could've been the Tennis GOAT. Instead he's Tennis joke. But he was always a moron clown anyways.
murder
Member
Tue Jan 18 09:20:46

"Also, I never realized that liberal values could accommodate an authoritarian state that could literally forces its citizens to inject experimental drugs into their bodies."

The problem is that you get your information from shit sources. This isn't an authoritarian state. And I find it lol funny that you're shocked that the government has the authority to protect the the country and its people.

I find it doubly funny since I assume that you're aware that they can send you half way around the world to be injected with lead.

murder
Member
Tue Jan 18 09:26:25

It really never gets old listening to or reading comments from people pretending that they are "patriots" and freedom fighters when they are just selfish assholes.

Wrapping themselves up in the Constitution, the flag, and self-importance, to mask the simple truth that they simply don't give a fuck about others.

Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 18 09:40:09
You literally think anyone who has a contrary political opinion to you should be ostracized, banned, jailed, or killed.

What makes you think that your views are compatable with America's, at all?
murder
Member
Tue Jan 18 09:48:01

Literally everyone in my family has a contrary opinion to mine on any number of topics. I have no desire to have you jailed or killed. But at the same time you have no right to expect others to agree to endanger their lives, that of their loved ones, and the general public, just so you can feel firmed up walking around in your "don't tread on me" undies.

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