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habebe Member	Fri Jan 14 18:44:44 http://gre...ate-democrats-use-the-jim-crow Senate Democrats Use the Jim Crow Filibuster to Protect the Kremlin Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has 55 Senators in support of his bill to sanction a Russian pipeline company. Why are the pro-democracy Democrats blocking its enactment? Senate Democrats Use the Jim Crow Filibuster to Protect the Kremlin Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has 55 Senators in support of his bill to sanction a Russian pipeline company. Why are the pro-democracy Democrats blocking its enactment? Glenn Greenwald 8 hr ago 319 283 President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris speak to the American people about constitutional voting rights in Atlanta, GA, on January, 11, 2022 United States. (Photo by Peter Zay/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images) Speaking at the funeral of Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) in May, 2020, former President Barack Obama called for the elimination of the Senate filibuster, which he maligned as “another Jim Crow relic.” During his four years in the Senate, Obama himself used that Jim Crow relic on two dozen occasions to block the Republican majority from bringing various bills to a floor vote. In 2005, Obama's second year in the Senate, Republicans — furious that Senate Democrats were using the filibuster to block President Bush's judicial appointments — proposed the "nuclear option” to eliminate the 60-vote requirement for judicial appointments. In response, the junior Senator from Illinois took to the floor of the Senate and delivered one of his trademarked impassioned speeches in defense of this Jim Crow relic, railing against the unfairness of “one party, be it Republican or Democrat … chang[ing] the rules in the middle of the game so they can make all the decisions while the other party is told to sit down and keep quiet.” He also heralded the importance of the 6o-vote requirement in the Senate for protecting the rights of the minority party: “If the right of free and open debate is taken away from the minority party and the millions of Americans who ask us to be their voice, I fear the partisan atmosphere in Washington will be poisoned to the point where no one will be able to agree on anything.” Filibuster hypocrisy of this sort is the norm in Washington. In 2017, when Senate Democrats were in the minority under President Trump, 32 of them signed a letter urging that the filibuster be maintained on the ground that it is necessary to safeguard “the existing rights and prerogatives of Senators to engage in full, robust, and extended debate as we consider legislation before this body in the future." Fast forward four years, when the Democrats have a 50-50 majority in the Senate with the tie-breaking vote of the Vice President, and now that very same filibuster has been transformed by them from a sacred guardian of minoritarian rights into the tell-tale sign of white nationalism and fascist contempt for democratic values. Thus have Democrats, being Democrats, made this about so much more than hypocrisy. They have somehow managed to infuse a racial component into this long-standing and pedestrian parliamentary tactic, and converted the routine side-switching each party has done for years based on whether they arein the majority or the minority into some overarching test of moral character. Under the rubric Democrats have now created, using a filibuster is not merely an unfair and obstructionist weapon used by the minority — the standard claim invoked by each party whenever they are in the majority and their will is thwarted by it — but instead it has now become proof that whoever uses it is a racist. Speaking in Atlanta on Tuesday, President Biden alleged that anyone who continues to support a filibuster to stop his party's voting rights legislation is choosing to "stand on the side of” George Wallace over Dr. King, Bull Connor over John Lewis, and Jefferson Davis over Abraham Lincoln. As is usually the case, this sort of racialist coercion — do what I want or you will be branded a racist — failed, as two Democratic Senators, Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) promptly announced that they will continue to support the 60-vote requirement for all legislation, echoing all the arguments then-Sen. Obama made back in 2005 about the key role played by the filibuster in preserving comity and avoiding divisiveness. But the Democrats’ view that the filibuster is racist and that only racists use it is not confined to the subtly named John Lewis Act to Protect Voting Rights. As Obama's comments at Lewis’ funeral reflect, it is now common in Democratic Party discourse to speak of the filibuster as an inherently white nationalist tool. "Here’s Why the Filibuster Is a Jim Crow Relic,” was the headline of Jonathan Chait's New York Magazine article from May, echoing — as he usually does — the words of Obama. Chait argued that in the past, “it was used rarely and almost always for the purpose of blocking civil-rights bills,” adding that “the filibuster exception to the general practice of majority rule was a product of an implicit understanding that the white North would grant the white South a veto on matters of white supremacy.” New York Magazine, Mar. 23, 2021 That the filibuster is an inherently racist tool, a relic of Jim Crow, is an odd position for Democrats to take given that just yesterday, they used the filibuster to block legislation proposed by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). Indeed, Sen. Cruz’s bill not only attracted the votes of forty-nine out of fifty Republican Senators (the only exception was Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)), but also six Democratic Senators who face close races in 2022 and/or are from purple states: Senators Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Catherine Cortez-Masto (D-NV), Mark Kelly (D-AZ), Jacky Rosen (D-NV), Maggie Hassan (D-NH) and Raphael Warnock (D-GA). That meant that Cruz had 55 votes for his bill — a clear majority. So why did it not pass? Because Senate Democrats invoked the racist Jim Crow relic in order to refuse to allow a vote on that bill unless it first attained 60 votes to close the debate. In other words, Democrats — on Thursday— used the filibuster to block Cruz's bill despite its having the support of the majority of Senate. What makes the Democrats’ conduct here even more notable is the substance of Cruz's bill that they blocked with the filibuster. Cruz sought to impose sanctions on the Russian pipeline company Nord Stream 2, which is constructing the pipeline that will allow Moscow to sell large amounts of cheap natural gas to Germany and to Europe more broadly. There are few more pressing priorities for the Kremlin, if there are any, than construction of this pipeline. So by blocking Cruz's bill, Democrats not only used a racist filibuster, but they did so in order to protect Vladimir Putin and a vital Russian company from sanctions. Indeed, few episodes have revealed what utter propagandists and unhinged conspiracy theorists the corporate media are more than the controversy over Nord Stream 2. At exactly the same time these media outlets were insisting that Trump was little more than a treasonous, subservient tool of Putin — controlled through Moscow's blackmail — Trump was doing everything possible to sabotage this pipeline, arguably the most vital interest of Russia (it competes for that title only with Ukraine, which Trump, infuriating the Russians, swamped with lethal arms after Obama largely refused to do so). Trump was threatening, cajoling, and trying to coerce Germany into buying U.S. natural gas rather than from the Russians, arguing that U.S. expenditures on NATO and on Germany's military protection obligated Berlin to buy from the U.S. instead. The Trump administration used sanctions regimes and other tools to prevent completion of that pipeline — an extremely odd act for a Russian-controlled asset, to put it mildly. Shortly after Biden was inaugurated, he announced that those sanctions would be lifted and the U.S. would cease its efforts to impede completion of Nord Stream 2. In other words, it was Trump — depicted for years by an unhinged U.S. media and their Democratic allies as an obedient blackmail victim of Russia — who did everything possible to prevent this pipeline from being built (while simultaneously arming the Ukrainians against Moscow). It was Biden who lifted those sanctions and acknowledged that the U.S. would no longer take steps to block it — a huge gift to Putin, even if his motive, as he claimed, was to avoid conflict with the Germans. And now it is Senate Democrats — ignoring the pleas of the Ukrainians, who view Nord Stream 2 as a grave threat, and at the behest of the Biden White House — who are so eager to block sanctions against this Russian company that they are using the filibuster to prevent Cruz’s bill from passing even though it is supported by 55% of U.S. Senators, at exactly the same time they are trying to convince Americans that only racists use the filibuster, a relic of Jim Crow, and that democracy requires the approval of all bills that attract the support of fifty Senators. I personally regard efforts to stop Nord Stream 2 and punish the companies involved as absurd and irrational. Aside from the obvious futility of it (how can the U.S. prevent Germany from buying natural gas from Russia if it wants?), what right does the U.S. have to try to prevent this? Why should the U.S. try to arrogate unto itself the power to dictate to whom Russia can sell its natural gas and from whom Germany and the rest of Europe can buy it? There is nothing wrong with attempting to persuade the Germans that it is in their interest to buy it from U.S. companies, but using various forms of coercion and force to stop it has always been extremely ill-advised and destined to fail. So I, too, would have opposed Sen. Cruz's sanctions bill. But all of these events should immediately cause any employee of corporate media outlets to recognize and acknowledge the utter absurdity of the deranged conspiracy theory they fed Americans for four years: that Trump, as he did everything he could to sabotage Russian vital interests, was a treasonous puppet of the Kremlin. And it should also prevent any journalists from ever again taking seriously the solemn claim from Democrats that the filibuster is an inherently racist tool given that they just used it yesterday to prevent a bill that would have sanctioned a Russian pipeline company. That corporate media outlets will instead continue to propagate both of these DNC-sponsored fairy tales — Trump was an asset of Putin and the filibuster is only used by white nationalists for racist ends — tells you all you need to know about them and their Democratic allies. As is true for all conspiracy theorists and fanatics, there are no facts or contradicting events that can undermine their devotion to their worldview. --------- I known it is long but I thought it best to be posted in its entirety.
habebe Member	Fri Jan 14 18:45:31 Plus honestly, the color scheme is easier to read for me.
murder Member	Fri Jan 14 19:23:48 I have to admit this is comedy gold. Not the stuff about the Democrats. Russian asset Glenn Greenwald pretending that he's not a Russian asset. That's the gold. "Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has 55 Senators in support of his bill to sanction a Russian pipeline company. Why are the pro-democracy Democrats blocking its enactment?" Germany. See? It's not that complicated.
habebe Member	Fri Jan 14 20:00:31 Murder, 1. Argue the argument, not just the voice. Everything there is public knowledge. 2. Other than HRC probably valling him, Jill Stein, Tulsi, my dead dog and Geroge Washington a Russian asset what evidence do you have that he is employed by Russia?
habebe Member	Fri Jan 14 20:01:15 The fact of the matter is Biden has been the most pro Putin potus of all time.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 14 20:59:13 totally absurd Trump was indistinguishable from a Russian spokesperson 99% of the time
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 14 21:07:05 Glenn Greenwald is an actual journalist who has released several major stories of international renown during his career. What he is not is a Democratic Party stenographer like 99% of the whores in the MSM, so of course NPCs like murder and tumbleweed hate him with a passion. tumbleweed's antipathy for him in particular is funny to me, because he used to be a Ron Paul fan and people like Greenwald and Snowden and Assange were heroes to libertarians a decade ago. Apparently 10 hours of CNN viewing every day can radically change a man.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 14 21:34:23 I was calling Habebe’s claim absurd... and actually disturbing as it’s shared my many Trumpists on social media when it’s totally ridiculous I don’t even know why it’s an insult to Biden, as being -friends- with Russia was one of the things Trump actually ran on in 2016... one of the heaps of definite proof he was and will forever be the most pro-Putin/Russia ‘president’ as for Glenn, I don’t know his history... but you have helped prove his present is corrupt and biased
habebe Member	Sat Jan 15 01:18:00 Tw, It kind of boggles me that you can ignore pro Russian policy ans connections. I get It, you hate Trump, but the evidence is in, at This point its delusional.
Paramount Member	Sat Jan 15 04:35:36 ” as for Glenn, I don’t know his history.” He is a homosexual Republican from Brazil.
Paramount Member	Sat Jan 15 04:45:46 So maybe we’ve been tricked all the time. Biden is actually the Russian puppet, not Trump. And last light in Sweden the police spotted large unknown drones over three different nuclear plants in southern Sweden. The police tried to track them but I read that at least one of the drones dissapeared over the ocean (most likely to a naval ship, if you ask me). So maybe Putin is planning an attack on Sweden and NOT on Ukraine. We’ve been tricked all the time and its only now, in the last hour, that everything is becoming clear?
Paramount Member	Sat Jan 15 04:46:32 * last night
habebe Member	Sat Jan 15 05:22:20 He is a homosexual from NY who lives in Brazil...he is not a Republican.
murder Member	Sat Jan 15 06:56:10 "Argue the argument ..." There's nothing to argue. The why is known. This crap is just Republicans attacking NATO allies to drive a wedge between the US and Europe to benefit Putin. If the pipeline moves forward ... Putin wins. If it doesn't ... Putin wins more.
habebe Member	Sat Jan 15 07:11:42 Biden's move regardless of his excuse is hands down the most pro Russian diplomatic event by any post 9/11 potus. He basically gave Putin billions of dollars and more leverage over the EU. But please tell me how a sane and rational person can claim Trump was the Russian asset? You know how Putin wins? By selling billions of dollars of fuel.
habebe Member	Sat Jan 15 07:13:23 Why is Germany so important? Its an obsolete regional power.
murder Member	Sat Jan 15 09:18:49 "Why is Germany so important? Its an obsolete regional power." Because that's the region of NATO.
murder Member	Sat Jan 15 09:20:37 "You know how Putin wins?" Yes. By dismantling NATO so he can rebuild the Soviet Union without resistance.
habebe Member	Sat Jan 15 09:26:39 With euro oil money.
murder Member	Sat Jan 15 09:31:29 They are just pumping gas dude. Trading gas for Euros makes them as dependent on the EU as it makes the EU dependent on Russia.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 15 11:59:26 "He basically gave Putin billions of dollars and more leverage over the EU." did Biden recommend the pipeline & help build it? it was nearly completed when he took office " But please tell me how a sane and rational person can claim Trump was the Russian asset? " - "Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow – if so, will he become my new best friend?" ~Trump (pre 'presidency') -part of Trump's 2016 campaign was 'we should be friends w/ Russia' (to the confusion of all) - that alone puts him ahead of Biden -Republican view of Russia dramatically rose starting then -Trump doubted they shot down the plane; didn't care about Crimea suggested Crimeans might prefer to be Russian; doubted poisonings done by Russia; reflexively called bounties story a hoax (when saying he knew nothing about it); defended Putin assassinating people; -- a pattern of always defense for them -when Putin suggested they join our cyberdefense team, Trump tweeted the idea proudly; when Putin suggested letting Russians join the investigation of them, Trump thought a great idea... yet neither happened, as everyone immediately noticed a stupid idea -when Putin & Trump met privately, he confiscated the notes of the interpreter to make sure even people in his own admin didn't know what was said -Trump lobbied for Russia to be back in the G8, punishment for Crimea (as he wanted a friend in the group given he didn't get along w/ our allies) -and last, but certainly most... for ~two years, he worked on their defense team trying to convince the American public that Russia did not interfere in election (not no collusion, no interference), contradicting conclusions of EVERYONE (including R-led commissions) on our side, leading to his Helsinki performance siding w/ Putin the entire time (not w/ one word) a completely traitorous & completely unjustifiable performance ---------- & as for being an 'asset'... if going by just dictionary definition, i'm sure they fucking love how he's undermined all faith in multiple aspects of America, and does NOTHING but spread division (plus as noted above, has helped raise opinion of Russia)
Rugian Member	Sat Jan 15 12:09:51 Claiming Glenn is a Republican is utterly hilarious. The dude is a complete leftwinger on most issues. He also just happens to dislike warmongering, the intelligence cabal, and free speech censorship. Sadly, those qualities mean that the authoritarian American left want nothing to do with him.
Rugian Member	Sat Jan 15 12:10:56 Daily reminder that murder is the son of literal communists and shares more in common ideologically with Castro's Cuba than Madison's America. As long as we're attacking the source...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 15 12:42:46 i didn't say he was a Republican... as -you- pointed out... Glenn Greenwald mocking the networks who televised a Jan 6th hearing: --------- " Like people are sitting around on Monday night with all their concerns and difficulties, thinking: I'm dying to watch Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney drone on and on , and show off fake tears, about The Insurrection™. I'll be surprised if 10 people under the age of 65 watch that. " "How is Liz Cheney doing? Is she on fire? [fire][fire][US flag][US flag]" (sarcasm) " ...I'm not watching. But I know how much people love Liz Cheney these days so I was just wondering if she's living up to expectations in her performance as the Conscience of the Republic. " --------- that's not how an unbiased journalist talks (& that hearing did have very notable information revealed, surely more-so than whatever garbage was on Fox or other Trump networks)... if you accept he has clear bias, fine, don't represent him otherwise also, amongst all the smears of Liz Cheney i've never once seen a clip attached showing her sounding stupid, or lying, or bullshitting (on Jan 6th/Trump)... do you have one? and the idea she's out for revenge makes zero sense as this is the only thing that got her in trouble w/ her ex-party now cult
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 15 12:47:15 from brief glancing thru Glenn's tweets during Trump era, not seeing much (any) anti-Trump sentiment when there was heaps to work with i don't 'follow' him, if you have evidence he's equal opportunity, feel free to present
murder Member	Sat Jan 15 17:09:29 "Daily reminder that murder is the son of literal communists and shares more in common ideologically with Castro's Cuba than Madison's America." Oh no, Rando insulted my parents! I must defend their honor. Daily reminder that Rugian supports the rape of unconscious minors, which no doubt is the result of likeminded parents.
murder Member	Sat Jan 15 17:14:13 "Claiming Glenn is a Republican is utterly hilarious." It's almost as if intelligence assets pretend to be what they are not.
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