Utopia Talk / Politics / Russia is Building an Arctic "Silk Road"

murder Member	Wed Jan 19 15:17:20 It's an 8 minute video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy9usF7ohE
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 03 22:34:17 Yeah, China wants to have some say over arctic shipping lanes to. They even called themselves a "near Arctic nation" which is not only made up, they are further away than the arctic than even places like the UK. Interestingly enough its also an unsettled beef between the US and Canada. I forget the details but I think Canada wants to charge fees and the US wants free open lanes.
Pillz Member	Fri Feb 04 04:47:34 Canada will have no more navy within 20 years. We lost the arctic fight.
Habebe Member	Fri Feb 04 06:51:44 http://www...-an-arctic-shipping-route/amp/ Honestly I dont see a problem with Canada's claims.I mean yes the US should work out some fair arrangement for shipping preference, but I see no reason why Canada shouldn't get something for it.
TheChildren Member	Fri Feb 04 07:49:01 when usa calls itself artic nation when in da reality they r as far removed from artic as china is... u got nottin 2 gloat. ur only even near artic becoz alaksa lol
murder Member	Fri Feb 04 07:54:43 Canada should just charge fees. They don't need to ask anyone for permission.
murder Member	Fri Feb 04 07:58:29 "ur only even near artic becoz alaksa lol" So we're only "near arctic" because we're actually there?
Habebe Member	Fri Feb 04 08:31:06 Alaska is fucking HUGE too. TC has an absurd argument that it doesn't count because we bought Alaska instead of invaded and conquered.
TheChildren Member	Fri Feb 04 09:06:41 yea by this logic, china will buy a tiny island off da russian artic coast... VOILAAAA artic nation, bitches. yes, we r an artic nation. deal with it haha.
murder Member	Fri Feb 04 09:46:01 "china will buy a tiny island off da russian artic coast" The going rate for tiny islands off the Russian arctic coast is ~ $100,000,000,000,000 Just so you know. :o)
TheChildren Member	Fri Feb 04 12:28:48 we a near artic nation. but we can be a full artic nation too same way u r too. deal with it.
Habebe Member	Fri Feb 04 12:31:29 Well, yes the UK is near the arctic....relative to Chyyyna.
Paramount Member	Sun Feb 06 15:32:12 China signed the Svalbard treaty in 1925 which gave them the right to have a base on Svalbard. China operates from Svalbard so it can’t be wrong to call China a near Arctic state.
Habebe Member	Sun Feb 06 16:12:06 Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, and the United States. These are arctic nations. Near arctic is a made up in recognized title. By that definition Chile is also a near Arctic nation.
jergul large member	Sun Feb 06 16:25:57 Yepp, the Svalbard treaty in principle grants nationa stakehold status in the Arctic. This is by design and a condition for limited Norwegian Sovereignity over the island group.
Paramount Member	Sun Feb 06 16:33:19 Habebe, Have you seen the people of Greenland? http://www...CAEQAw&biw=1832&bih=1081&dpr=2 They basically look like Chinese. Maybe they are relatives to the Chinese?
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