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superdude
Member Wed Jan 19 16:11:59
Profile of a average Progressive Democrat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Latimer_Felton

Rugian
Member Wed Jan 19 16:23:31
Wikipedia is such PC trash these days.

"Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton (June 10, 1835 – January 24, 1930) was an American writer, lecturer, feminist, suffragette, reformer, slave owner, and politician who became the first woman to serve in the United States Senate, although she served for only one day.[1][2]"

"Slave owner" is not something that makes her stand out in the pages of history. Putting undue emphasis on that in the lede is undoubtedly the work of some fat SJW loser.

Habebe
Member Wed Jan 19 16:29:30
"Wikipedia is such PC trash these days."

Agreed.

superdude
Member Wed Jan 19 16:35:06
Agreed but not in this case.

Most slave owners were Democrats and she was the last one to serve in Senate.

nhill
Member Wed Jan 19 16:37:41
The democratic party came full circle last year, enslaving a bunch of BLM NPCs. Some things never change.

Habebe
Member Wed Jan 19 16:46:12
I was also just agreeing in general.

murder
Member Wed Jan 19 17:15:00

"Yeah but we were Democrats back then!"

murder
Member Wed Jan 19 17:18:48

""Slave owner" is not something that makes her stand out in the pages of history. Putting undue emphasis on that in the lede is undoubtedly the work of some fat SJW loser."

I don't know, I find it pertinent considering she was also a white supremacist and "and spoke vigorously for lynching."

I'd say that judging from her views regarding race, slave owner is literally the nicest thing they could have said about her.

Rugian
Member Wed Jan 19 17:22:25
"Felton considered "young blacks" who sought equal treatment "half-civilized gorillas", and ascribed to them a "brutal lust" for white women.[21] While seeking suffrage for women, she decried voting rights for black people, arguing that it led directly to the rape of white women.[22]

Felton also advocated more lynchings of black men, saying that such was "elysian" compared to the rape of white women.[23] On August 11, 1898, Felton gave a speech in Tybee, Georgia, to several hundred members of the Georgia State Agricultural Society. She urged an increase in lynchings in order to protect rural white women from being raped by black men.

When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue – if it needs lynching to protect woman's dearest possession from the ravening human beasts – then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.[24]

— Mrs. W.H. Felton, August 11, 1898"

I think I have a hard on now.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Jan 19 17:25:11
"Most slave owners were Democrats"

the 1860 electoral map:
http://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1860_large.png

kinda different than today's breakdown

Rugian
Member Wed Jan 19 17:30:58
^ this is just a lazy MCNDC talking point.

The Republican Party of 1860 was strongly nationalist, pro-business and pro-tariff, in addition to having an abolitionist strain.

Meanwhile, your average Democrat in today's age STILL calls for government-mandated racial segregation, via bullshit equity programs (our current "president" has himself advocated for them on multiple occasions). Also, they hate business, meritocracy, and America itself.

Geographic distribution aside, 2021's Democrats would have had little in common with the party of Lincoln.

Habebe
Member Wed Jan 19 19:09:26
"Meanwhile, your average Democrat in today's age STILL calls for government-mandated racial segregation"

**While I don't support Rugians feelings toward blacks**, that above statement is true as the sky is blue.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Jan 20 03:19:04
Rugian
In the context of American history with that whole civil war that acted as a watershed moment between two ideologies and fundamentally different values. Sure. It was a pretty big deal back then you know, political campaigns were built around being for or against slavery, entire business were operated with slave labor.

Habebe
Member Thu Jan 20 03:39:20
I don't really get the argument, its not like that's the only or even the main thing they say, its in a list of things in an encyclopedia.

murder
Member Thu Jan 20 05:30:00

"^ this is just a lazy MCNDC talking point."

The South was the South. It still is.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Jan 20 05:49:42
I think habebe is agree that it is a valid thing to list.

Rugian’s the objection really falls flat on its’ face, given that slave ownership was a integral part of these peoples identity and way of life. They were proud of it. ”Slaver owner” is thus a statement of facts that is informative of a historical context and of these people’s identity.

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superdude Member	Wed Jan 19 16:11:59 Profile of a average Progressive Democrat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Latimer_Felton
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 19 16:23:31 Wikipedia is such PC trash these days. "Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton (June 10, 1835 – January 24, 1930) was an American writer, lecturer, feminist, suffragette, reformer, slave owner, and politician who became the first woman to serve in the United States Senate, although she served for only one day.[1][2]" "Slave owner" is not something that makes her stand out in the pages of history. Putting undue emphasis on that in the lede is undoubtedly the work of some fat SJW loser.
Habebe Member	Wed Jan 19 16:29:30 "Wikipedia is such PC trash these days." Agreed.
superdude Member	Wed Jan 19 16:35:06 Agreed but not in this case. Most slave owners were Democrats and she was the last one to serve in Senate.
nhill Member	Wed Jan 19 16:37:41 The democratic party came full circle last year, enslaving a bunch of BLM NPCs. Some things never change.
Habebe Member	Wed Jan 19 16:46:12 I was also just agreeing in general.
murder Member	Wed Jan 19 17:15:00 "Yeah but we were Democrats back then!"
murder Member	Wed Jan 19 17:18:48 ""Slave owner" is not something that makes her stand out in the pages of history. Putting undue emphasis on that in the lede is undoubtedly the work of some fat SJW loser." I don't know, I find it pertinent considering she was also a white supremacist and "and spoke vigorously for lynching." I'd say that judging from her views regarding race, slave owner is literally the nicest thing they could have said about her.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 19 17:22:25 "Felton considered "young blacks" who sought equal treatment "half-civilized gorillas", and ascribed to them a "brutal lust" for white women.[21] While seeking suffrage for women, she decried voting rights for black people, arguing that it led directly to the rape of white women.[22] Felton also advocated more lynchings of black men, saying that such was "elysian" compared to the rape of white women.[23] On August 11, 1898, Felton gave a speech in Tybee, Georgia, to several hundred members of the Georgia State Agricultural Society. She urged an increase in lynchings in order to protect rural white women from being raped by black men. When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue – if it needs lynching to protect woman's dearest possession from the ravening human beasts – then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.[24] — Mrs. W.H. Felton, August 11, 1898" I think I have a hard on now.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 19 17:25:11 "Most slave owners were Democrats" the 1860 electoral map: http://www.270towin.com/historical_maps/1860_large.png kinda different than today's breakdown
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 19 17:30:58 ^ this is just a lazy MCNDC talking point. The Republican Party of 1860 was strongly nationalist, pro-business and pro-tariff, in addition to having an abolitionist strain. Meanwhile, your average Democrat in today's age STILL calls for government-mandated racial segregation, via bullshit equity programs (our current "president" has himself advocated for them on multiple occasions). Also, they hate business, meritocracy, and America itself. Geographic distribution aside, 2021's Democrats would have had little in common with the party of Lincoln.
Habebe Member	Wed Jan 19 19:09:26 "Meanwhile, your average Democrat in today's age STILL calls for government-mandated racial segregation" While I don't support Rugians feelings toward blacks, that above statement is true as the sky is blue.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jan 20 03:19:04 Rugian In the context of American history with that whole civil war that acted as a watershed moment between two ideologies and fundamentally different values. Sure. It was a pretty big deal back then you know, political campaigns were built around being for or against slavery, entire business were operated with slave labor.
Habebe Member	Thu Jan 20 03:39:20 I don't really get the argument, its not like that's the only or even the main thing they say, its in a list of things in an encyclopedia.
murder Member	Thu Jan 20 05:30:00 "^ this is just a lazy MCNDC talking point." The South was the South. It still is.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jan 20 05:49:42 I think habebe is agree that it is a valid thing to list. Rugian’s the objection really falls flat on its’ face, given that slave ownership was a integral part of these peoples identity and way of life. They were proud of it. ”Slaver owner” is thus a statement of facts that is informative of a historical context and of these people’s identity.
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