Utopia Talk / Politics / Is Joe Biden a premature drama queen?

Paramount Member	Mon Jan 24 09:22:40 Ukraine says US move to withdraw diplomats' families 'premature' Ukraine on Monday said it was "premature" of the United States to evacuate the families of its diplomatic staff in Kyiv due to fears of a looming Russian invasion. "We consider such a step by the American side premature and a display of excessive caution," Ukrainian foreign ministry spokesman Oleg Nikolenko said in a statement. http://afp...ts-families-premature/a/a7k06L
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 09:36:56 You can imagine why Ukraine may not be happy to see us evacuating.
Paramount Member	Mon Jan 24 09:43:20 After all that the US is doing for Ukraine, shouldn’t Ukraine be grateful or at the least not question the US descisions but be supportive instead and say something like: ”It is good that the US withdraws diplomatic personell. We support it and urge the EU to follow lead”. The current statement is disrespectful.
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 09:46:46 We're not doing much for them at all. What they should be saying is that we owe them nuclear weapons to defend themselves with.
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 10:02:23 Whoever negotiated this for Ukraine should be buried alive if he's not already dead. http://en....orandum_on_Security_Assurances
Habebe Member	Mon Jan 24 10:08:00 He is wagging the dog to distract from his home grown failures. Its sort of a national past time.
Rugian Member	Mon Jan 24 10:14:45 I guess murder really doesn't pay attention to international politics. You're absolutely insane if you think the governments of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan over the last 30 years were trustworthy enough to hold nuclear arsenals.
Habebe Member	Mon Jan 24 10:24:00 So quick poll Who thinks Biden is trying to get the US involved in a war? Do you think it is atleast in part to distract from his cluster fuck performance thus far? I'll start, Yes and yes.
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 10:27:24 "You're absolutely insane if you think the governments of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan over the last 30 years were trustworthy enough to hold nuclear arsenals." There's no need to hold them. Just launch them.
Paramount Member	Mon Jan 24 10:44:53 Habebe, I think he is trying to make Russia attack Ukraine but have the US to stay out the actual fighting. He is doing this because he wants to put as much pressure on Germany as possible to quit the Nord Stream and buy from the US instead. The US is basically prepared to have people killed and property destroyed to achieve this. Pure gangsta.
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 10:53:28 Joe Biden, who is as clever as a fox, tricked Russia into amassing > 100,000 Russian forces along the Ukrainian border and inside Belarus. He also tricked Russia into invading Ukraine and annexing Crimea back in 2014 to set the stage for this coming war. Joe Biden truly is a stable genius.
Paramount Member	Mon Jan 24 11:32:58 He is gangsta.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 24 11:52:44 "Who thinks Biden is trying to get the US involved in a war?" not me... invasion will be just another thing to blame him for (& no way the people will support going to war)... & Tucker is the one trying to get Russia to invade, i don't see Tucker as working w/ Biden
Rugian Member	Mon Jan 24 12:06:19 "& Tucker is the one trying to get Russia to invade, i don't see Tucker as working w/ Biden" I would love to know where you get your reporting on Tucker from, seeing that this is at least the second time in the past week that you've libelled him.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 24 12:33:24 Tucker criticizing our weapons to Ukraine (w/ 'none of this benefits America in any way' chyron) http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1484336500045090816 Tucker says it makes sense for Russia to be acting this way as they don't want NATO on their doorstep (well, if they take Ukraine, NATO will be on their doorstep) Tucker multiple times has said we should be on Russia's side not Ukraine's
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 24 12:33:36 one example of ^that: http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1458608590336708608
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 12:39:35 Tucker: Well Russia has the energy reserves so we should support them gobbling as many of their neighbors as they want. Here ... take the Baltics back too!
Habebe Member	Mon Jan 24 13:59:08 Lets compromise, can Russia just invade Iran?
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 14:16:03 I would root for Iran. I'd support supplying them with weapons too.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 24 14:29:44 "My office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we're not siding with Russia in its threats to invade Ukraine, and who want me to support Russia's "reasonable" positions." ~ Tom Malinowski (congressman) http://twitter.com/Malinowski/status/1485682928709423107 maybe he's lying... no reason to doubt though as Tucker is indeed saying those things (& former guy already prepped the cult to like Russia)
Habebe Member	Mon Jan 24 14:48:08 TW, I hope so. #Fuck Ukraine. Atleast Biden finally cares about borders...just not ours.
Habebe Member	Mon Jan 24 14:49:13 Murder, Yeah we can send them some bombs;)
kargen Member	Mon Jan 24 17:27:35 Someone whispered in his ear we can't have another Afghanistan so they decided get everybody out now to avoid the shit show of leaving people behind.
murder Member	Mon Jan 24 17:43:31 ^ yup
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 24 20:18:05 mo’ Tucker: http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1485780422734737409?s=21 with nice graphic...
murder Member	Tue Jan 25 07:05:20 Has anyone ever made as much money as Tucker by having a perpetually confused look on their face? He's confused by the news. He's confused by his guests. He even appears to be confused by his own "just asking questions" bullshit.
Habebe Member	Tue Jan 25 07:11:42 Murder, His "paying attention" face when someone is talking is priceless.Its the look I imagine someone seeing a mythical creature alive would make. "What?! Unicorns ARE real?"
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