Utopia Talk / Politics / seb strikes again

Sam Adams Member	Tue Jan 25 11:30:37 Crime surges in Italy’s migrant ghettos http://www...78dac98dfd86eafa226583b17c00fe
Seb Member	Tue Jan 25 11:32:07 "Rejected by society" Literally the first sentence. Sam strikes again.
murder Member	Tue Jan 25 11:34:26 Crime surges in all ghettos. But yeah, letting in muslims is never a good idea.
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 25 11:48:44 ” Unlike in France, there is little sign, so far at least, of religious extremism emerging. “There is no politics, ideology or religion, just nihilism,” said one police officer. Instead a thriving rap music scene in San Siro has produced national stars: Seven 7oo, a track by a local group of rappers, has notched up 14 million views on YouTube” Why don’t these north-african youths travel to the USA instead? Everyone knows that the US is the land of opportunity. Italy not so much. Also, in the US they would have the right to own guns.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jan 25 13:13:57 "Rejected by society" You claimed this wouldnt happen. You claimed you would be able to integrate them this time. Rofl sebfail.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 25 16:16:13 "Rejected by sociey" Yeah why is that again? "Hamada, 40, an Egyptian who arrived on a boat 16 years ago and lives in San Siro and works as a builder, offered a solution: “Kids getting off boats can’t work because they don’t have papers, so they are hired by dealers. Give them documents and this would stop,” he said." Oh right, they're illegals who shouldn't be in Italy in the first place. Deport them all and the problem goes away.
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 25 17:00:35 “Kids getting off boats can’t work because they don’t have papers, so they are hired by dealers. Give them documents and this would stop,” he said." Kids should not work. Child labor is illegal in the EU. Send the kids back to their parents and to da school. After they have finished school and got an education then maybe they can apply for a work visa in Italy or why not the USA? :)
Seb Member	Wed Jan 26 04:30:10 Sam: "You claimed this wouldnt happen. You claimed you would be able to integrate them this time." Italy explicitly elected a party that - like you - pursued anti-integrationist policies.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jan 26 10:00:19 So you didnt forsee obvious anti-immigrant pushback that has occured every single other time a high crime demographic was imported?
Seb Member	Wed Jan 26 12:12:16 Sam: Italy elected extremists before the Syrian crisis. You only need to look at their concentration camps for Roma.
Seb Member	Wed Jan 26 12:12:50 Italy was being Sammish racists before Syria, and will be afterwards.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 27 10:10:07 So, like i said 8000 times.... you will be unable to integrate your new imports and crime will increase.
Seb Member	Thu Jan 27 10:38:49 Sam: Unable is different from "deliberately chose not to because people like me will do everything we can to ensure it won't happen". One should not take advice on fire prevention from an arsonist.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 27 10:49:22 So, your excuse for being completely wrong is that you were unable to predict the existence of people like me? Who you talk to all the time? Lol. Amazing.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 27 10:52:32 In reality of course, immigrant success is related mostly to the quality of the immigrant, rather than the quality of the integration effort.
Seb Member	Thu Jan 27 14:35:06 Sam: I'm saying we should ignore people like you, because you are stupid and wrong.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 27 15:21:58 Yet here we are, with me being right, and you being wrong, yet again. If you listened to me more, youd be less wrong.
Seb Member	Fri Jan 28 08:31:35 If we listened to you, we would be like the Italians, and have concentration camps for minorities - which is about as wrong as you can get.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jan 28 09:33:33 No. There would be no high crime migrants at all. Thus no problem, and a much safer and better integrated society.
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