Utopia Talk / Politics / the death of hot rod - ototot

earthpig GTFO HOer	Wed Jun 01 17:41:12 What was the deal with that? Did he eventually actually pass away? And if so, how do we know? Etc, all the questions
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 17:44:12 His obituary was posted, I think Real Fred confirmed at the time, and maybe Dakyron?
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 17:44:36 http://www...x?page=lifestory&pid=191112817
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 17:45:09 http://www...hread=83910&time=1591486345606
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 17:45:40 I only know this because when I came back last year it was one of the first things I investigated in disbelief. Still suspect it was all made up tho.
Rugian Member	Wed Jun 01 17:48:22 Hot Rod is happily living on a beach in Hawaii with his 20-year old Japanese girlfriend and a fully repaired knee. God bless him.
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 17:53:07 I used to think Habebe and Hot Rod were the same person for a while back in the day. Not so much anymore, though. It would be easy enough for someone to run the Hot Rod multi account until they decided to retire it with an obituary that fit the storyline. But either way, multi or real, RIP Hot Rod. He was fun.
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 17:53:45 (no offense Habebe, I don't even know why I felt that way back then, maybe the communication style, just a random memory)
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Wed Jun 01 18:01:43 What the fuzz "I knew Hot Rod for about 15 years. One thing he loved to do was to debate and he was good at it. One thing I never admitted to him was that I admired his sharp mind, his determination and his ability to put his thoughts into words and to influence people when we sparred of the mind. He must have outwitted and beat me and changed my point of view hundreds of times over the years and one day I hope to hone my mind so that it will become as sharp as his was back when we debated politics on the forums. Your passing has left a hole in my heart and my life has become darker without you. Sam Adams Acquaintance January 1, 2019"
nhill Member	Wed Jun 01 18:02:39 Grief makes you feel things, is that unknown to you?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Wed Jun 01 18:09:38 Stay classy, UP: "We spent hours playing hide and seek in the crawl space under his house when I was little. I can't believe he's gone. It feels like a big part of my life was stolen from me. I guess the only thing left to do is try to forget and move on Lil Davey December 23, 2020"
Rugian Member	Wed Jun 01 18:43:48 At the end of the day, Hot Rod was a basically decent human being who we socially interacted with on a near-daily basis for years on end. Whatever you thought of his politics (and yes he was hopelessly addicted to Fox News), you'd would have had to be an asshole to not be at least a little bummed when he died. But of course, if there's one thing that UP's not lacking for, it's assholes.
obaminated Member	Wed Jun 01 18:54:46 Eh it's not UP, it'd the disconnect people allow themselves when interacting online. Recall the guy who wrote that shitty joke hid behind a multi and then tried to defend himself. People like that are simply cowards. They/he knows if he were to make the same tasteless joke at an in person funeral he would be waking up in a hospital. But online it's safe to have zero humanity. Cowardice.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 01:28:22 I'm still not convinced he was a real person.
jergul large member	Thu Jun 02 01:57:58 I felt I mobilized a sufficient degree of sympathy.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 02 02:38:23 Everything west of the Urals was mustered. I never considered HR fake, I think TJ had his phone number? I don’t know if that is true or I have constructed a false memory, if in fact Fred was the only connection, then all bets are off.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 02 02:42:46 I mean I get sad when people leave this place, it is the oldest piece of the internet that I go to. I think? So based on that alone there is a piece of sentimental value and emotional investment in each and every one of you :,-)
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 03:25:42 I don't consider him fake, just not convinced he's real. Dunno what else to say about it. The character I interacted with is missed.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 03:28:56 I also get sad not seeing people from the old days here. I started posting in the HO as a young teenager, pretty much everyone is gone. I only migrated to UP once people stopped posting in UGT. Never been particularly interested in politics, but I do love everyone here, even those I argue or get trolled by/troll myself, and would miss anyone if they left.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Jun 02 03:42:10 An oddly large number of HOers wound up dying...
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 03:43:36 Fuckssakes - I got the lil Davey post taken down. Evidently the asshole decided to repost it.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 02 03:50:19 That we know, a lot of UPers just dropped off, so we have a lot of MIAs.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Thu Jun 02 04:11:36 rob iz in prizen an fred stopid beein a truk drivar 2 maek xtremlie low grade porns aftar convertin hiz truk in2 a mobile porn studio krel is in a north koreen prisen camp
patom Member	Thu Jun 02 05:24:48 Haven't heard from TJ lately but I believe he was the one contacted by Hot Rods relative and he was also the one to publish his OBIT.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 02 09:51:52 Nhill The TJ connection is one reason, I think HR was real.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Thu Jun 02 09:54:08 mebe hot rod Tj and reel fred wear all da saem person sum1 shuld maek a UP movie
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 09:59:58 I don't know this TJ fella very well, but do remember him posting a while back. Didn't he post on a competing version of UP too? But not trying to make this a witch hunt or disrespect HR as either a person or character. We're all usernames and text to each other for the most part, other than the select few that have met up in person (IIRC Dakyron and Real Fred met up, maybe some others here have too). That's real enough for me
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 02 10:43:29 I think he did yes. TJ is as real as they get... I think. You have made me paranoid now. I have seen a picture of what was allegedly him, he reminded me of my father I remember. Vietnam veteran, 3 girls, yea yea TJ, had many discussions with him. Conservative man, but very free in spirit. He has to be real... right? =(
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Thu Jun 02 11:01:10 "He has to be real... right? =(" u 4get dat dis film is basid on UP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-6XHJFUBDI&t=60s
Pillz Member	Thu Jun 02 11:34:47 Hot Rod was the embodiment of all the reasons voting shouldn't be open to the public. The single stupidest individual any of us have met, online or otherwise. But I'd rather he be here today than Seb, she reports harmless jokes by the only people Hot Rod spoke to on a daily basis for the last 20 years of his life. Rot in hell seb
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Thu Jun 02 11:45:00 mebe UP iz jsut kreel on drugz halucinatin 10 diferint persenalitiez and nun of us iz evin reel we r jsut figmints of krels imaginatiun
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 11:50:12 The real question nobody has answered is: Who the fuck is Turtle Crawler? How many multis of his are we interacting with right now?
murder Member	Thu Jun 02 12:24:17 "Who the fuck is Turtle Crawler?" Turtle Crawler is the Source (Code). ;o)
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 02 13:38:29 "Who the fuck is Turtle Crawler?" Some say he is a myth, an old wives tale that mothers use to scare their children.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 13:45:26 Who's afraid of the big bad admin :o
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Jun 02 14:01:12 @nhill - is that a serious question?
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 14:24:11 Which one? About Turtle Crawler? Yeah, he runs the site but barely posts. Must have a multi or two he uses. Is he you?
Pillz Member	Thu Jun 02 14:47:14 No, I'm fairly certain he just doesn't have a lot of time for this place and only comes by when something he's interested in occures.
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 14:52:27 Pillz: Hot rod - at least his behaviour and positions on this board - to my mind was an ass. It's not harmless - as I said at the time. It's obviously a taunt and I assume he has family members that loved him that do not need to have their mourning interposed by some solipsistic shithead that thinks his behaviour on this board is the yardstick by which he should be measured.
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 14:54:00 Basically, you can't offend hotrod. He's fucking dead. You can offend and upset friends and relatives though - random people you don't know. Why the hell would you want to do that?
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 15:02:07 >I assume he has family members that loved him Every post on the obit, which is not confirmed to be Hot Rod, is from UP.
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 15:05:33 You can call me a kill joy for ruining someone's hilarious paedophile joke if you like. You can tell me to rot in hell too (there is no hell, jokes on you). But what does it say about you that your first thought is about me ruining someone's joke, rather than that someone causing pain or discomfort to someone at their most vulnerable when a loved one has just died? Get your priorities straight and get a sense of perspective. This board is what, getting on for 30 years old? How old are you? Grow the fuck up.
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 15:10:32 nhill: Literally the first post that went up was the first 'lil davey one. Someone paid for that page. It is true it may be an elaborate hoax - but would you really take the risk? To make the least funny, tired when it was first made 10 - 15 years ago "hot rod is a paedophile" joke?
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 15:14:13 Put it this way nhill, if you fell under a bus tomorrow, and somehow it found its way here that you had died, and your family had paid for an obit page in your local newspaper, would you really want your family trying to figure out why there appeared to be some folks insinuating you were a paedophile? I'm not sure there is a joke worth making there that is worth the downside risk.
Seb Member	Thu Jun 02 15:15:46 Anyway, this is a hill I am absolutely prepared to die on. Not because I think one should not speak ill of the dead, but because I think nothing said hear is worth fucking with someone else's grief.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 15:29:18 Seb, I wasn't talking about the Lil Davey bit, I agree with you on it. I would never ever risk hurting the feelings of someone in mourning or remembrance.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 15:31:45 I should have made that clear, my apologies. I'm simply skeptical of the whole thing, his character seemed like it was out of a cartoon. No strong feelings either way, I'm squarely in the middle. He may have been real, he may have been TJ's alter ego, but either way he contributed a unique flavor that I miss. He was the best troll in UP by a mile.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Thu Jun 02 15:32:35 Dude doubt anyone outside of UP knows shizz about the lil davey thing
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 15:35:26 I have no idea where it came from or the context. I did at one point, but not cataloged it. Did he mention a kid named Davey and UP spun it into a pedo narrative? If so, and he's a real person, it's possible someone might take it the wrong way. Maybe a 1% chance, but I wouldn't ever want to hurt someone in mourning or remembrance. But that's just me. If someone here thinks the minor risk is worth an inside joke, that's fine.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 02 15:37:34 Everyone has their own tolerances for this type of stuff. To Seb it's a sacred line in the sand, to me it's something I wouldn't do or condone. But it doesn't upset me much that someone else put it there.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Thu Jun 02 15:38:11 lil davey came from renzo the dude never existed
obaminated Member	Thu Jun 02 15:39:31 Seb and Nhill are correct. Glad some of us understand right and wrong. Hr was a 70 year old dude, single and childless (?). It makes a lot of sense that a man like him would be so stubborn and borderline ridiculous in his beliefs. Even more so that he would dig in and refuse to change because that's basically all he had.
patom Member	Thu Jun 02 17:57:57 If I'm not mistaken he was 80 or 81 when he passed. He once told me he was born in 1937.Fred stopped in to see him once. TJ had been in contact with him. I think TJ is in his early 70's now. I'm 78 and definitely not smart enough to create any multi. Nor do I have any interest in creating one. As for the Little Davie thing. It was totally boring as far as I was concerned. It seemed that no matter what HR posted, whether it was pertinent to a current event or political or sports or anything. Someone would start in again with the Little Davie BS.
Seb Member	Fri Jun 03 04:18:31 Nhill: Yeah sorry, my ranty posts at pillz probably affected the tone on my response to yours.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 03 07:15:23 Nhill For what it worth, Hot Rod was consistent about his background and life situation. He was real, at least in the sense that there are people like him, nothing was extraordinary, not even his stubborn stupidity. For whatever reason he became a lightning rod in this forums and now people remember him as unique. I see Hot Rod in this forum to this, in a bunch of posters. Perhaps the thing that made him stand out is that he was stupid and stubborn, but from another era, which made him seem more out of place. But his inherent baseline level of stupidity and dishonesty can be seen in other posters and other people daily.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 03 07:22:20 "This board is what, getting on for 30 years old? How old are you? Grow the fuck up." Word!
murder Member	Fri Jun 03 07:46:46 There are posts in the Mod forum that would probably clear this up. Asking TC if he could "darken" parts of the board because he was having issues seeing due to his age and declining eyesight. Possibly revealing personal information by accident ... repeatedly. Trying to send back soup at the deli. ;o) I have no doubt that Hot Rod was exactly who he said he was.
nhill Member	Fri Jun 03 09:57:28 Seb, it's all good. Nim/murder I'm glad you are convinced, but I am not. He was a remarkably consistent character, I'll give him that. Whether he was flesh and blood or not makes little difference to me. We get attached to characters in books, movies, and television all the time.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 03 10:02:15 He was as real as any of you.
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 03 10:12:43 It's nice we still remember and talk about the old fart.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jun 03 12:54:59 Nhill Fair enough. I only have first hand information of 3-4 UPers outside of UP.
nhill Member	Fri Jun 03 14:36:21 I've shared my Facebook here, people know I'm real. Haven't logged onto said Facebook for 5 years but pretty sure Earthpig is my friend. jergul, I'm more real than you buddy. :)
nhill Member	Fri Jun 03 14:54:17 Ok I lied, guess I have logged into it. Just checked and looks like I updated my profile picture in 2019, and my job in 2021. Just not been active on it other than updating metadata for about 5 years.
nhill Member	Fri Jun 03 15:15:49 I will do a world tour someday and verify everyone personally that is open to it
Pillz Member	Fri Jun 03 15:26:25 Then you can tell us how many multies ibty and rugian have
nhill Member	Fri Jun 03 15:27:42 Dozens, I'm sure ;)
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 04 04:35:49 Jergul is real, I found him outside UP. He checks out. Earthpig, yes, have him on FB, that I log into once every 3 years. Asgard (Israeli) I have him on FB as well. Oh, then there is seb, I found him on the interwebs. Right Turtlecrawler, since I once donated money for server up keep through paypal, I know or at least saw the name of a real person. Yea I have a road trip through America on the list. Definitely swinging by everyone that can.
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 11:32:48 Proof of Humanity. ;)
Paramount Member	Sat Jun 04 11:43:41 Are you Norwegian, nhill?
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Sat Jun 04 11:46:54 nimz reel hiz wief invitid me round 4 da sex
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 12:48:28 Yes Paramount, my mom’s side is Norwegian
jergul large member	Sat Jun 04 14:03:44 Nooooooooooooooo :D
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 14:08:15 <3
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 14:11:24 Nim Do you have a super hot wife or something? Why do people keep imagining themselves in bed with her here? This is at least the 3rd time I've seen someone fantasize about her on these boards. Congrats on making people jealous! ;)
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 04 15:22:56 hmm I may have posted some flattering picture of her, back in the day and some details avout how she spoiled me. Down to earth kind of gal :) Though tbh I didn’t make that connection until you mentioned it. Someone from here may have fapped to her picture, (suited for work pictures I am not a ghoul) I don’t know to feel about that.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Sat Jun 04 15:31:10 rofl nimzo an nhil sukin eathothars coks in ure wife iz in bed wit othar men bcos ure 2 busie beein gay wit nhil
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 15:39:06 It's incredible how jealous people are of your fantastic down to earth wife. Nice work man :) My wife is from the Caribbean, she's beautiful and skin dark as the night (there's something about very dark skin that is extremely sensual to me). Sounds like we both have great catches, someday we'll all meet up!
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 04 15:40:06 I think I had found Sen on Twitter.If not there wqs alot of coincidences lined up.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Sat Jun 04 15:43:30 "My wife is from the Caribbean, she's beautiful and skin dark as the night" rofl nhils wit a negress bcos no1 else wantid him im suer if nimzo an nhill meat up thayll haev gay sex
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 04 15:44:48 Does anyone remember Baskerlar? He offered me a job @ 50k/yr when I was like 19 managing a pet shop for exotic animals, but it was very snake heavy, so I definitely declined. I don't deal with snakes.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Sat Jun 04 15:48:50 u wear lookin 4 jobs threw UP?
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 04 15:53:38 No, we talked alot outside of UP. He made an online game similar to the old UP, but more like Civilisation. Anyway we found out we lived near each other , I think he was in NJ. Im freinds on FB with thePowersthatbe , turned out we lived in the same small town. Havnt spoke to him in 10+ yrs though.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jun 04 18:42:02 Nhill Great people these wives :) My wife is Kurd from Iraq. I remember back in the early days, she would come to my appartment make food for me and go home to her mom again, all while I was sleeping (night shift). The way to a mans heart as the saying goes is through his stomach :)
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 19:14:35 That's awesome. Yeah when my wife first woke me up to fish and bake with fried plantain I was like...yup it's a keeper. ;) I used to work the night shift too, sometimes I wonder if my sleep schedule still messed from it over a decade later. But it's also how I became active on this site. I was an auditor at a hotel, automated most of it and browsed the net for the rest of the shift.
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 19:15:32 We're badass if people are also fantasizing about us having gay sex. Winners stay winning!
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 22:54:44 http://www...style-fry-bake/?v=920f83e594a1 Here's a recipe if anyone wants to try saltfish and bake. Waking up to that smell of freshly fried bread and seasoning is mmmm mmm good. Can't promise it'll be as good as a native, but worth a shot. I didn't even know saltfish was a thing until I met her.
nhill Member	Sat Jun 04 22:57:18 Or wait, I guess that's just a recipe for the bake part. Can't find any recipes for the whole thing that look equivalent, but it's basically sauteed saltfish mixed with onions, tomatoes, peppers and some other juju.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 05 02:00:08 Klippfisk with a potato substitute. So roots going back to the 1500ds at least. Finnicky only in-so-far as salt cod needs to be watered down for at least a day. I would say baccalao, but feel I need to teach you the proper name of things now that you are part of the Norwegian rike.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 05 03:29:59 ”sometimes I wonder if my sleep schedule still messed from it over a decade later” Shouldn’t be a surprise, but I also have a very “unorthodox” sleeping schedule. My sleep deprevation skills are Navy SEAL level… lol :)
nhill Member	Mon Jun 06 14:50:55 Thank you jergul :) maybe that's why I liked the klippfisk. In the blood in it! I know that feeling Nim. Let's go with Navy SEALs, not irresponsible sleep depravation. I like that spin ;)
nhill Member	Mon Jun 06 14:52:00 And yeah you definitely need to soak that stuff. One time my wife forgot so she just did overnight and the salty flavor was overwhelming
nhill Member	Wed Jun 15 19:47:49 What else should I know jergul
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