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Habebe
Member
Fri Jun 17 19:27:53
http://www...ed-illegal-entry?intcmp=tw_fnc

9 Colbert staffers broke into the House of Reps to film Mcarthy and boebert's offices.
murder
Member
Fri Jun 17 19:45:27

I was going to say "What the actual fuck???", but then I saw the source and will withhold judgement.

Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 17 19:56:37
Colbert was always a hack but he used to at least be a funny hack.

Now his pathetic show is little more than a safe space for lonely 70 year old liberals who have watched too much MSNBC and have nothing left in their lives other than an unending hatred for the Orange Man.

Anyway, Never Forget 6/16, that dark day when insurrectionists who hate this country stormed the Capitol.
obaminated
Member
Fri Jun 17 20:34:16
Lol. They clearly wanted to start a revolt. Arrest them for treason!

Right - tw, cuckhat, murder ?
murder
Member
Fri Jun 17 20:44:57

Assuming this isn't all bullshit, I'd be more than willing to sacrifice all of them and Colbert as long as they end up sharing cells with Donald Trump and his gang.

Habebe
Member
Fri Jun 17 20:51:00
US Capitol Police arrest Stephen Colbert staffers at House office building, charged with illegal entry
The individuals associated with 'The Late Show With Stephen Colbert' were arrested at the US Capitol complex on Thursday night

The U.S. Capitol Police arrested a group of staffers with CBS's "The Late Show With Stephen Colbert" after they allegedly illegally entered a U.S. House of Representatives office building on Thursday night, Fox News has learned.

The group of seven people were arrested in the Longworth House Office Building after being escorted out of the Jan. 6 committee hearing earlier in the day because they did not have proper press credentials, according to sources.

The same group resurfaced later on Thursday night after the Capitol complex was closed to public visitors and Fox News is told that they took videos and pictures around the offices of two Republican members of Congress, Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy R-Calif. and Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo.

A senior source in the U.S House of Representatives told Fox News that seven individuals associated with Stephen Colbert's show were arrested, which includes Robert Smigel, who is known for being the voice of Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

The group was unescorted and charged with illegal entry to House office buildings after hours.

Fox News is told that the "The Late Show With Stephen Colbert" team applied to get press credentials for the Jan. 6 hearing, but the House Radio/TV Gallery rejected the request because they are not considered "news." The issue didn't go to the Radio/TV Correspondents Association, which usually handles credentialing.

In addition to a regular Capitol Hill press pass, a special "overlay" is required for members of the press who want to be in the room for the Jan. 6 Committee hearings.

Members of Colbert's team could have been in House office buildings if they were invited, which they were. Fox News is told that Colbert's team conducted interviews earlier on Thursday with members of the Jan. 6 Committee, including Reps. Adam Schiff, D-Calif. and Stephanie Murphy, D-Fla. They also interviewed Rep. Jake Auchincloss, D-Mass.

When Capitol Police spotted members of Colbert's team at the Jan. 6 Committee area, they were schooled away, and left the House office building.

At some point, they were let back in to the Longworth House Office Building sometime after 4 p.m. by an aide to Auchincloss and were unattended for several hours. Sources tell Fox News that the aide believed the group had more interviews to do.

Sources tell Fox News that the group apparently roamed the House office buildings while they were unattended for hours.

The U.S. Capitol Police told Fox News in a statement that it received a call for a disturbance in the Longworth House Office Building at 8:30 p.m. on Thursday and said that additional charges could be filed.

U.S. Capitol Police told Fox News in a statement that it received a call for a disturbance in the Longworth House Office Building at 8:30 p.m. on Thursday and said that additional charges could be filed.


"On June 16, 2022, at approximately 8:30 p.m., U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) received a call for a disturbance in the Longworth House Office Building. Responding officers observed seven individuals, unescorted and without Congressional ID, in a sixth-floor hallway. The building was closed to visitors, and these individuals were determined to be a part of a group that had been directed by the USCP to leave the building earlier in the day," the statement says. "They were charged with Unlawful Entry. This is an active criminal investigation, and may result in additional criminal charges after consultation with the U.S. Attorney."


A spokesperson for CBS told Fox News that Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was on-site at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday and Thursday to record interviews for a comedy segment on behalf of "The Late Show," and said the interviews were authorized and pre-arranged with Congressional aides.

The spokesperson said that members of the production team stayed to "film stand-ups" and other comedy elements in the halls when they were detained.

"On Wednesday, June 15 and Thursday, June 16, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was on-site at the Capitol with a production team to record interviews for a comedy segment on behalf of ‘The Late Show.’ Their interviews at the Capitol were authorized and pre-arranged through Congressional aides of the members interviewed," the spokesperson said. "After leaving the members’ offices on their last interview of the day, the production team stayed to film stand-ups and other final comedy elements in the halls when they were detained by Capitol Police."
Habebe
Member
Fri Jun 17 20:54:14
7 not 9***

Democracy is over. A congressional hearing will be scheduled next session.
obaminated
Member
Fri Jun 17 21:11:40
So murder shows his true colors. He would happily sacrifice people to ensure people on the other side also get sacrificed. You are truly a useless member of society and belong in the low level that you, as far as I can tell, live in.
kargen
Member
Fri Jun 17 21:24:48
Murders problems aside I'm still wondering what President Trump has to do with it. He wasn't trespassing in the capitol building.

I'm not buying the film stand-ups in the hall bullshit. Halls go all over that building yet somehow they end up at the offices of the minority leader and one of the most controversial Republican representatives. Their interviews were with Democrats so you would expect if they were at any office it would be the offices of those they interviewed.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Jun 17 21:39:22
All the cuckservatives rubbing each other's dicks completely raw with blood and semen covering their calloused hands.

To equate this with the insurrection is absurd nor will they go unpunished.

Fuck, do you guys ever associate with people not white and conservative. You sound absurd to the real world.
Habebe
Member
Fri Jun 17 21:53:46
I refer back to Dukhats law...everything goes back gay stuff with cocks.


IIRC I brought this up to Nhill when he first started coming back around, that itnhad nothing specific to do with anything anyone posted specifically, with Dukhat it always leads there.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 17 22:00:52
“Right - tw, cuckhat, murder ?”

you’re missing violence... not sure why you people have such trouble with that concept... an extremely significant element
Dukhat
Member
Fri Jun 17 22:35:43
Looks like it was Triumph and they overstayed filming some bits. Cool, I miss Triumph.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 17 22:43:46
hmm, even Tucker spouting the idiocy:
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1537954416585674753
not surprising i guess
Habebe
Member
Fri Jun 17 23:22:08
Tucker steals alot of my material.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 17 23:59:16
i was referring to his 'insurrection' claim, not merely covering the story

that garbage channel always trying to minimize what Trump cultists were doing

they DID use violence & they WERE trying to keep Trump in office, they say so... them being delusional idiots doesn't change that
kargen
Member
Sat Jun 18 02:29:58
If it were about violence most the rioters that sieged the federal building during the summer would be sitting in jail.
The people that trespassed and tore shit up on January 6th should be charged for their actions and the Colbert crew should be charged for their actions. At the very least trespassing.

And have you forgot that the FBI and other agencies found no evidence of collusion or a coordinated effort on January 6th?

And again why were they at those two representatives offices? They weren't there as part of what they filmed earlier. If that were the case they would have been in near a Democrat members office.
Habebe
Member
Sat Jun 18 03:08:39
TW when confronted with a lack of evidence to pin anything on the Teflon Don resorts to "Its Trump, he probably was doing something criminal/nefarious, even if all the evidence falls apart inder scrutiny"

Or "why would he say this? Or.not come forth willingly play along, clearly he is hiding his criminal behaviour "



He cabtp
murder
Member
Sat Jun 18 05:46:37

"So murder shows his true colors."

My true colors are that you were expecting me to defend this idiocy and faceplanted.

OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Sat Jun 18 07:11:29
how can u blaem trump 4 nething if da libs r doin wot da protestirs did da libs r tryin 2 maek a coup on mcconnel

wen r da libs gona b charid wit tresin
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 18 11:30:40
"And again why were they at those two representatives offices?"

probably wanted Triumph to catch Boebert or McCarthy for interview or maybe more likely just comedy bits outside the nameplates of their offices (Triumph shouting jokes into the door or some such)

i don't care if they charge Colbert people for the crimes they committed, it has NO similarity to Jan 6th, & assholes like Tucker who try to downplay the violent attempt to overthrow gov't (YES, that was their goal & purpose, to 'stop the steal', it was the name of the rally... hanging Mike Pence isn't merely complaining about covid changes)

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"And have you forgot that the FBI and other agencies found no evidence of collusion or a coordinated effort on January 6th? "

your source of this is a news article from a long time ago claiming a source inside FBI said it... the FBI has NEVER said that themselves

and OBVIOUSLY is no longer the case given they've charged members of the Proud Boys & Oathkeepers with seditious conspiracy
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 18 11:46:17
if you -dont- think they were trying to keep Trump in office, tell me what you -do- think their goal was?

to in person encourage lawmakers to give 10 more days of investigation into Trump's baseless claims of fraud? then after 10 days when states say, 'yep, Biden still won', they (& Trump) would be 'oh, ok'?

well it's been way more than 10 days, zero mass fraud shown anywhere, & Trump still says he won & they still believe it

Trump -obviously- would not have accepted anything but his own victory, & -obviously- would have pressured legislators (more) to just appoint him (as he had already been doing beforehand), & he did have loyalists in those legislatures already willing to do so (plus he probably would've been fine just accepting the DOJ mass resignations to get his stooge placed as AG to falsely claim DOJ had major fraud concerns to encourage those on the fence, Ender's Game final battle style)

so yes, installing Trump was the goal of Trump & these people
Habebe
Member
Sat Jun 18 12:08:55
So let's recap.

BLM riots were different because of the location, this was worse because they breached the Capitol, that was a major argument. The violence was also far worse with BLM with murders, fires, mass looting and terrorized cities and suburbs. But because it wasn't at the Capitol, although they did take control of federal buildings, thisnwas different, it was Congress.

We all heard this. Can we have a UP historian find these arguments?


But now, it's just the violence that matters. These guys were let in to the Capitol, some reports saying by shifty Schiff now.

They knew they were not allowed there, we had congressman giving them walkthroughs earlier So they could learn the layout (remember that?) and breached it later with help from the creepiest eyed congressman ever.

After hours they secretly recording two high profile targets of the extreme left.


So is it the violence? That was infinitely worse with BLM.

Or was it breaching the Capitol illegally?

I'm sure Boebert doesnt need a therapist, but she may want special permission to ooen carry at work.


These are well funded powerfully connected extremist criminals were dealing with.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 18 13:02:17
"But now, it's just the violence that matters"

no, intent also relevant... but i have kept seeing people compare things that have NOTHING in common

Rugian once posted things such as a sit-in protest (inside a building) as comparable (NOT comparable)

various R's also have said the protests outside SC justices homes or outside the court itself also 'insurrection', nope

now this Colbert incident, extremely weakest of all, w/ even large-audience Tucker tossing out 'insurrection' (obviously not serious, but the purpose to downplay Jan 6th)

as for BLM, they fought through no police lines to invade no occupied buildings w/ never intent to get at people, going after people is a LOT more serious than merchandise (& some of the arsonists were right-wingers)

murders were ultra-rare given number of events, & i believe the majority of the very limited deaths were from the BLM side

for ones proven to commit violence or other serious crimes, yes they should be charged

there is no Democrat politician saying don't charge arsonists or murderers or any other violent acts that i'm aware of

proving actions done by black people at night is a lot harder than proving actions done by white people in the day who were filming themselves and posting it

Habebe
Member
Sat Jun 18 13:34:56
"various R's also have said the protests outside SC justices homes or outside the court itself also 'insurrection', nope"

It is trying to sway the SC alongside threats of violence.

I hear the left claim ppl downplay Jan 6th. Well when ppl compare it to 9/11 and pearl harbor, it needs to be put in reality.

No one died except 1 protestor shot by cops.

They were unarmed.Set no fires. 99%+ of the rioters basically goofing off and acting out, taking selfies. So yes, its not 9/11.

"as for BLM, they fought through no police lines to invade no occupied buildings w/ never intent to get at people, going after people is a LOT more serious than merchandise (& some of the arsonists were right-wingers)"

Clearly people were murdered/killed via the riots. People lost their businesses and property and many (not all) on the left supported just letting them back on the streets after commiting crimes.

Some in the far left even supported this as "reparations" while most routinely downplayed how bad it was. They also destroyed IIRC 60+ covid testing sites duringnoeak pandemic times.

It was bad. The same people would say somethings got out of hand in what was meant to be a reasonable protest lead by corrupt communists who embezzled money for personal gain.

Portland DA wouldn't prosecute the crimes, that should be denounced.

The riots were filmed extensively. There is a documentary being made about Kenosha by Matt Orfaelea.
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Jun 18 14:43:57
"Some in the far left even supported this as "reparations""

Indeed. A large chunk of the left views crime as good because 1) reparations and 2) redistributing wealth.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 18 15:27:53
"Some in the far left even supported this as "reparations""

and some on the far right support Jan 6th
& the Fox/R effort to minimize it is just support of it

the 'which is worse' makes no difference... BLM riots weren't a D vs R issue, & BLM was heavy majority just peaceful protests... murdering was no element of it at all, a few people got murdered in the violence, but NO indication the murders were about some political motivation

& i don't really want sucked into the 'insurrection' term debate, the Right just puts out this 'not an insurrection' shit over & over to get people to just ignore the whole thing

it doesn't matter what you call it... the Capitol being breached by a violent mob while every member of Congress inside is a BIG deal (+ their purpose to get to those members & change results), i can't think of any other building being violently breached that would be more serious except the White House (& no BLM did NOT violently breach the White House)

AND that's only a part of it... Trump's efforts & clear plot to overthrow the election an even BIGGER deal, which was still ongoing to Jan 6th (& Hannity feared Trump would continue plots even after, & his criminal ally Eastman -was- continuing, calling that White House lawyer on the next ploy)
kargen
Member
Sat Jun 18 22:42:15
The gathering at the capitol on January 6th was overwhelmingly peaceful and lawful. Those that trespassed were a very small number compared to the entire crowd numbers.
The only person that died at the January 6th riot was an unarmed woman. The capitol being breached was bad and the people that did it should be held accountable. It was not an organized attempt to overthrow the government. It was a protest where some people went from protesting to rioting. Again those involved should be punished.
Same should happen for the rioters that took advantage of the protests outside the federal courthouse building. Those that rioted there should have to face the consequences of their crimes. That did not happen and isn't likely to happen. Just like the protestors outside Supreme Court Justices homes are not being arrested and held accountable for their illegal actions. Seems being charged with a crime while rioting depends not on the crime committed but the side you represent while committing that crime.
Only one side is being held accountable and that is the real travesty and threat to our country. They should all be held accountable for their actions.

And the FBI and others still haven't found any coordinated efforts or collusion that took place on and around the events of January 6th and in fact said they are unlikely to find any evidence in future investigations.
kargen
Member
Sat Jun 18 22:45:24
Oh and the Colbert morons should be fined and/or jailed for trespassing in accordance to the law. Whoever okayed their trespassing should be fired.

and it isn't surprising that idiot Schiff and his staff were involved with the Colbert debacle.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 18 23:35:06
jailed would be stupid given some Jan 6ers only got probation for trespassing during a violent assault


"And the FBI and others still haven't found any coordinated efforts or collusion that took place on and around the events of January 6th and in fact said they are unlikely to find any evidence in future investigations"

obviously already false given the seditious conspiracy charges

also, Bannon clearly knew something was going down
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Jun 18 23:52:27
[Habebe]: "BLM riots were different because of the location, this was worse because they breached the Capitol, that was a major argument. The violence was also far worse with BLM with murders, fires, mass looting and terrorized cities and suburbs. But because it wasn't at the Capitol, although they did take control of federal buildings, thisnwas different, it was Congress."


Don't forget the May–June 2020 White House riots, where massive fires were set block after block, where people set up a guillotine and called for the decapitation of Trump, where the White House fences were repeatedly attacked, and where the Secret Service was concerned enough about riotous breaches that Trump was evacuated to the presidential bunker, after which the murderous insurrectionists called him "bunker bitch" for not letting them kill him and complained that White House security was improved:

E.g.,
http://twitter.com/gogoxoom/status/1535016656937836572
http://twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1299170978233298946
http://twitter.com/kr3at/status/1535401624457428992
http://twitter.com/samanthajoroth/status/1267291110197657600
http://twitter.com/kr3at/status/1535401043261112320
http://twitter.com/kr3at/status/1535401357053763585
http://twitter.com/david_d1421/status/1535512432512159744
http://twitter.com/finnygo/status/1266932445963837441
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOl2nHMDO7E
http://twitter.com/finnygo/status/1266924009494544384
http://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1266934526875484160
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujtPygMy1I8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut1-1MOcxsE

This was done by the same DNC brown shirts who were calling for the overthrow of the Republic. These people want to
• limit and control the First Amendment,
• abolish the Second Amendment,
• abolish the Electoral College,
• abolish the Senate,
• Pack the Supreme Court and/or make the court elected by the propagandized mob,
• control D.C. directly by making D.C. a state,
• control all elections at the federal level (uni-party control of elections)
• establish a federal police force to replace the local authority of state police (FBI 2.0 / FBI Lite),
• expand the purview of the Capitol Police to become a weapon of the House majority, etc.


These people believe that "the U.S. is founded on racism" and that "the U.S. is systemically racist", and their remedy for that is to "completely dismantle the system". Even *if* they were correct about racism (hint: they aren't), they openly admit that they want to destroy the U.S. from within and institute a Marxist dictatorship of the proletariat.

They use violence, political intimidation, and infiltration at all levels to achieve their ends. They..
• riot in cities around the U.S.,
• actively change U.S. laws to destroy election integrity,
• remove competing parties from the ballot,
• intimidate Justices at their homes,
• threaten and plan to murder Supreme Court justices,

They overtly want to end the Republic, establish mob rule, and empower the DNC uni-party via that rule. They are the insurrectionists, and they merely project "insurrection" onto the Constitution-protecting citizens that they mis-frame and distort. Like the Bolshevik before them, they hide behind the word "democracy" while calling for an end to the United States and an enslavement of the world.
Habebe
Member
Sat Jun 18 23:56:03
CC, TBH, I do vaguely remember the event, I didnt remember the guillotine.

But I definitely remember WH staff saying they were legitimately worried for their safety.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Jun 18 23:58:57
Yep. An insurrectionary mob that has been given control of the streets and endorsed by the D.C. Mayor will make a lot of Constitutionalists worry about being murdered. Making D.C. a state would further empower the Mayor (then a Governor), since they could further produce state actors in the D.C. streets to intimidate anyone not of the uni-party.

The guillotine was the second link, btw. Clickable version:
http://twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1299170978233298946
Habebe
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:01:01
CC, Also, dont let anyone say you don't sonyour due diligence in being thorough.

If I may lob some constructive criticism it would be to aim for that length of a post. That I was willing to read. Some are so long that I just lack the time/patience.

I get that your ongoing thread is good foe references and as such may tend to be longer. But that IMO was good length.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:04:11
That's fair. I have been trying to make a more concise way of getting these things across.
Habebe
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:09:58
And really the gripe from the Right is this.

We recognize this was in called for bad behaviour. But to act like it's anywhere near as bad as all the stuff from then left in that era, is insane.

It reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Marge had a gambling problem.

Gambling problem =Jan 6th.
Homer-the left
Marge-Republicans

But the ending is if he just went on and on with it.

http://youtu.be/960DPXiZCB8
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:16:39
Reminds me also of when the left criticizes a GOP politician of not upholding "family values". The hypocrisy is their focus, but the reality is that they themselves are completely devoid of the morality necessary to even attempt those values.
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:21:17
Cherub belongs in an institution.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:23:26
[Left-Wing Twitter Projection-Bot]: "Cherub belongs in an institution."

Like a gulag, comrade?
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jun 19 00:35:01
I never fucking use twitter you dumb fuck. You fucking imbeciles always project.

You literally spend all day on social media looking for "sources" that will repeat the things you already want to believe.

You are mentally ill without any filter. The conservatives know it too but they don't care about you as long as you support their dumb policies.

It's just embarassing to post the things you post. Literally all your citations are conspiracy-nutbag bullshit.

Shut the fuck up, get off the internet, and go to school you fucking wretched piece of shit. That's your only hope.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 19 00:40:55
i checked the first 10 links or so... all obviously less than what done on Jan 6th...

the text sure is exciting though
"The far-left rioters tore apart the barrier outside the White House piece by piece in an attempt to storm the building and burn it down while calling for Trump to be lynched. Democrats condemned the police for stopping them."

then video of protesters pulling on a bike rack as cops pull on other side... and then doing nothing (no storming or burning down building... & "Democrats condemned the police for stopping them", what are the examples of that?)

there are videos of the same bike rack behavior on Jan 6th, except Trump's cultists knocked down cops & advanced & FOUGHT the cops hand to hand & broke into the building... thus a bigger deal

agreed, no dumpster fires though, other than the oval office
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 19 00:47:20
i shouldn't say "then doing nothing"... they walk up to cops & shout in their faces, thus incredibly clearly not willing to do what the Trump cultists were willing to do

this being one i'm referring to specifically
http://twitter.com/kr3at/status/1535401043261112320
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 19 00:47:43
(also note it's a CNN video)
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Jun 19 01:50:39
[Left-Wing Twitter Projection-Bot]: "You literally spend all day on social media looking for "sources" that will repeat the things you already want to believe."

lol. We finally got more than a Twitter hot-take from Dukhat! That was almost enough for a full paragraph in a Word document! :D

And I love the projection from Projection-Bot! The left can spam social media with January 6th propaganda that serves their narrative, but you post a few links of White House fires during the May 2020 insurrection, and oh no! It's a self-serving bias now! lol :D

I liked this part:
"It's just embarassing to post the things you post. Literally all your citations are conspiracy-nutbag bullshit."

Conspiracy stuff like this left-wing commentary on fences going up?
[June 4th, 2020]
http://twitter.com/betsy_klein/status/1268491075343319041

After rioting and setting fire to areas around the White House for 4 nights, fences went up, and the left-wing conspiracy theorists likened the security closures to Zimbabwe's "Robert Mugabe" — which is ironic, given that Mugabe was a Marxist.

And, in July 2020, when a fencing project that was planned in the *Obama* administration began around the White House, the left-wing useful idiots thought that *Trump* was further becoming a "bunker bitch" (again criticizing Secret Service for being rightly afraid of violence while simultaneously starting a conspiracy theory about Trump building these additional fences):
http://i.imgur.com/fTQ7CyE.png
Their ability to reject evidence was hilarious. Look at the upvotes that the corrective comments get compared to the downvotes for the psychotic and conspiratorial. I wonder which of UP's left-wing useful idiots fell for this conspiracy theory as well. The list of conspiracy theories they believed is quite long.

Or how about the conspiracy theory of Trump supports smearing poop on the walls of the Capitol? That was a lie propagated from an unnamed source who said that there was poop on the *floors* in one area, and it may well have been from the capitol lawns or a bathroom accident. Meanwhile, the conspiracy theory loons said that it was "[smeared on walls and priceless works of art]" — delusions of people who need no evidence to believe in their Two Minutes Hate.

And Dukhat's comment is especially funny because my totalitarians thread has made a specific effort to use DNC sources and the specific documentation within which the DNC-totalitarians formalize these plans. And do be aware: every single bullet point I used here is factually backed. They really do want to dismantle the Republic and remove the Constitution via that checklist. It is indefensible, which is perhaps why Dukhat is getting so angry — he probably voted for it. Gas prices, Ukraine, inflation — this was by design. You voted for the destruction of your very way of life.

But, to a useful idiot, even the words of the DNC itself are "conspiracy-nutbag bullshit". Pretty hilarious :D
..though quite sad.

..
[TDS Bot]: "i shouldn't say "then doing nothing"... they walk up to cops & shout in their faces, thus incredibly clearly not willing to do what the Trump cultists were willing to do"

fucking LOL :D :D :D

The delusions of this fucking idiot never cease to amaze me! :D

Meanwhile, back in reality, those videos I posted and the videos below them show police being pelted with rocks. They show dumpster fires, cars being set on fire, police being assaulted (Or are the fences being yanked away by magic-peacemakers that used no force but only love?), injured Secret Service agents ("peacefully" injured, I guess?), fireworks being used to set fires and attack security forces, people committing acts of violence, arson, and people threatening death. This was in the same White House riots where a nearby cathedral was set on fire:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/06/05/st-johns-episcopal-church-historic-church-next-white-house-set-fire-during-protests/

Cathedral fire here also (if WaPo is subscription-locked):
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/historic-church-near-white-house-damaged-amid-unrest-leaders-pray-for-healing/2318673/

And close-ups of the Cathedral fire:
http://twitter.com/Listen2PANKAJ/status/1267286541837242368

This was also the event when the Lafayette Square bathrooms were set on fire:
http://twitter.com/MrEricAngelo/status/1267295971664371712?s=20

A victimless crime, surely!
It's a peaceful fire! Not like those "Trumplicants" on January 6th! They didn't set *any* fires! Firelessness is violence.. or something. Or like, the GQP's lack of fires shows their complicity in systems of firelessness. #RealPeacefulProtestsHaveFire .

And this is *before* casting a larger net to the Antifa/BLM Brown Shirt insurrectionary summer at large, wherein thousands of officers filed injury reports and people were *murdered*. But, the left-wing useful idiots make a giant memory hole for these stories. They plug their ears and tell themselves that January 6th justifies *everything* bad that they've ever done. It is the Great Sin that their Propaganda Messiah has offered for them to forgive them of their pathetic stupidities. Their Propaganda Messiah has lied on their behalf, and so, with Faith in Party, they hope to go to "heaven" (read: gulags, mass graves). Believe in January 6th, and the political violence of the left disappears!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 19 02:15:28
you have people rioting just to riot, no goal, no storming (& no Hillary/Biden hats, clothes, flags, tattoos, brands, etc)

Trump cultists also threw objects and used chemicals and -fought- cops hand-to-hand and smashed into the Capitol, and some actively hunted various legislators... with all having purpose to stop the certification, there is no other purpose, and what the name of rally was and all they ever chanted... you may claim some had justified concerns, I don’t care... clearly many if not all were packed with total bullshit spewed by Trump

enjoy finding that meaningless
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Jun 19 02:46:48
[TDS Bot]: "you have people rioting just to riot, no goal, no storming (& no Hillary/Biden hats, clothes, flags, tattoos, brands, etc) "

Lol. Fucking delusional :D

Yeah, guys. Those White House rioters were just having some harmless fun! Setting fire to stuff in all the blocks around the White House was just like.. Graham Greene's "The Destructors" — just some kids doing an anarchy. Not a big deal! They didn't even have a logo! No MAGA hats or anything!
#CNN #BLM #Antifa #ACAB #NoJusticeNoPeace #BurnItDown #SayHerName

They totally didn't..
• sport anarchy symbols,
• show anarcho-Marxist tattoos,
• tear down and burn American flags from public buildings,
• show "Black Lives Matter" banners and flags,
• say, "off with his head",
• dress in Antifa/BLM black bloc,
• say, "abolish police!",
• spread the lie, "Hands up, don't shoot",
• chant, "fuck the police!",
• chant, spray-paint, and yell, "Who are you protecting?" (a rhetorical device designed to get security to accept the protestor's belief that police are helping a "villain" — thus allowing the protestor access to that "villain")

These people wanted to break into the White House and murder a sitting president. By the DNC-Politburo's interpretive rules of January 6th, that's what they fucking wanted: to murder Trump. That is why they were there. They were there for arson, criminal conduct, assault, destruction of property, and, if they'd had their way: murder.


And a comparative checklist for White House riots. White House rioters..
"threw objects" ✓
"used chemicals" ✓
"-fought- cops hand-to-hand" ✓
"smashed into the [White House fencing]" ✓
"some actively hunted [White House staff and GOP members]" ✓
"with all having purpose to [end the Republic and murder Trump]" ✓

Additionally:
Used explosives and fireworks ✓
Burned down structures ✓
Set fire to private property ✓
Harassed, intimidated, and provoked ✓
Pulled down security fences ✓
Set fire on barns and hay-stacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears ✓


[TDS Bot]: "you may claim some had justified concerns, I don’t care..."

Yes, I know that you don't care.

Your entire delusion rests on the belief that the "GQP" was there to have an "insurrection" on Trump's behalf. The delusion requires that you evade knowing the true motivations of those protestors. This subsequent delusion requires that you believe that you can know — despite your poor research on the subject — that there was zero evidence of fraud or wrongdoing. Your ultimate delusion is based on a faith in the DNC's propaganda: the belief that the election was perfect and spotless, that all cases were rightly dismissed, and that Trump's claims were the only claims and that they were wrong.

Your delusion requires lies on top of lies. You believe the lies to so much of a certainty that you cannot even peel back the very first layer of the propaganda that you live and breathe. You can never understand the motivations of the people that were there because it would require the end to your delusions, and your delusions are all you have now — the cure for your meaningless life.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 19 11:16:22
"they fucking wanted: to murder Trump. That is why they were there"

with no effort to do so shown...

after bike rack tug of war, they DON'T charge into the breach

Trump cultists after bike rack tug of wars DO charge into the breach


there is no "if they had succeeded, _____" pondering for those BLM riot videos, as nothing is attempted

your own text is "After rioting and setting fire to areas around the White House for 4 nights"... that's some -real- slow storming & shitty strategy


as to your ✓'s... none of your videos show them fighting cops hand-to-hand as Trump cultists did, smashing into -fencing- is hardly comparable to bashing through windows & doors... there's no hunting of people at all, and your murder Trump attempt claim is based on an effigy in fake guillotine? i guess... i see no attempt at all...

for "additionally" you add... Burned down structures (i guess that's the fire in the church basement?)... cultists did plenty of property damage themselves...

and crazily list these in "additionally":
"Harassed, intimidated, and provoked ✓
Pulled down security fences ✓ "
how the fuck did Trump cultists NOT do that...

"Used explosives and fireworks ✓"
well cultists had those pipe bombs...

=============

"you evade knowing the true motivations of those protestors"

please oh please tell me what every single cultist there was trying to do... enlighten me

you think none were trying to overturn the election, & more crazily think Trump wasn't either... asking you to explain why he was heavily pressuring Pence gets you to fake laugh & run away
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 19 11:32:55
and before you go into pages of shit about how you disagree with court case decisions, note i am asking what you think the cultists were trying to do by bashing through cops to get to congresspeople on Jan 6th

what was their goal in -that- effort?

& i never said election was perfect... but the efforts to just trash all mail-in votes after the fact was fucking crazy, that is NOT a proper remedy to anything, there was ZERO warning 'hey, if you decide to vote by mail, it could get trashed', it was just a plot R's pulled out AFTER election, and ONLY in states where it would make Trump win (proving how disingenuous as no concern about down ballot races)... some w/ such stupid complaints as 'drop boxes' aren't in the constitution... so trash all ballots? knowing it will be in the neighborhood of 100% legit votes?... fuck all you who pushed for that

(& feel free to admit Trump was churning out totally baseless mass fraud claims from before the election & continuing to the present & that that is really fucked up)
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jun 19 13:25:21
Cherub writes so much and its all literally wrong.

So much stupid. This is what happens when the social media works on the mind of someone with a 90 IQ.
Dukhat
Member
Sun Jun 19 13:42:21
You really can't have an argument with someone that "Nah nah nah's!" the facts that she can't come up with a response too.

Someone like Cherub that deep into stupidity, like deeply profoundly stupid enough to misuse terms like gaslighting which she uses on other people around her are usually victims of long-term abuse.

They married their rapist or a long-time member of a church. Their learned helplessness is so deep, that they can no longer interact with the real world and have deeply compromised logical faculties.

Or they suffered some kind of head trauma that doesn't allow them to filter out information. The natural tendency for humans to seek confirmation bias will go super fucking overboard.

We've seen people like this implode in the public eye with Roseanne. Cherub isn't famous so she will keep repeating the same stupidities over and over and over, surrounding herself with enablers and/or abusers who don't personally care that she's mentally ill.
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