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Rugian
Member Thu Jun 23 06:17:54
WASHINGTON—The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the Helsinki Commission, today announced the following online briefing:

DECOLONIZING RUSSIA
A Moral and Strategic Imperative

Thursday, June 23, 2022
10:00 a.m.

Register: http://ush...43d40f2b988be5e94f7614ea4a6768

Russia’s barbaric war on Ukraine—and before that on Syria, Libya, Georgia, and Chechnya—has exposed the Russian Federation’s viciously imperial character to the entire world. Its aggression also is catalyzing a long-overdue conversation about Russia’s interior empire, given Moscow’s dominion over many indigenous non-Russian nations, and the brutal extent to which the Kremlin has taken to suppress their national self-expression and self-determination.

Serious and controversial discussions are now underway about reckoning with Russia’s fundamental imperialism and the need to “decolonize” Russia for it to become a viable stakeholder in European security and stability. As the successor to the Soviet Union, which cloaked its colonial agenda in anti-imperial and anti-capitalist nomenclature, Russia has yet to attract appropriate scrutiny for its consistent and oftentimes brutal imperial tendencies.

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The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the U.S. Helsinki Commission, is an independent commission of the U.S. Federal Government. For over 45 years, the Commission has monitored compliance with the Helsinki Accords and advanced comprehensive security through promotion of human rights, democracy, and economic, environmental, and military cooperation in the 57-nation OSCE region.

http://www.csce.gov/international-impact/press-and-media/press-releases/decolonization-russia-be-discussed-upcoming

Seb
Member Thu Jun 23 06:38:29
Quite right.

Putin is very, very open about his imperial agenda.

Seb
Member Thu Jun 23 06:39:42
Frankly there is a reasonable case that Russia itself as a core state is still essentially a Muscovite empire and would benefit from genuine reforms to decentralise - but that is an issue for the Russian people.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Jun 23 06:46:28
Yes. Please decolonize Russia. I have previously said that on this path of decimating fiat and centralization of power, considering that the USA+minions are pulling themselves apart organically, something needs to be done with Russia and China. To some extent these countries are already being or going to be crushed in the vacuum of their own demography. Anything we the west can do, with our own last breaths to pull them down together with us, I see as a strategic and moral imperative.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Jun 23 06:47:57
This century is probably going to be very eventful as the deck is reshuffled.

murder
Member Thu Jun 23 07:27:18

"Yes. Please decolonize Russia. I have previously said that on this path of decimating fiat and centralization of power, considering that the USA+minions are pulling themselves apart organically, something needs to be done with Russia and China."

Even if the US, Europe, Russia, China, and Japan, all collapsed, the one thing you can be sure of is that global finance will not be taken over by a bunch of shady grifters with their homemade money.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Jun 23 08:18:30
Global finance *is* the creation of a bunch of shady grifters with home made money though. We have gotten as far as we can trying to balance and control that behavior with regulation and reached the technical lifespan and inherent limits of the system.

When building a different system, it is to be expected that the shady grifting behavior will infest the very early iterations. This will take years.

Paramount
Member Thu Jun 23 10:17:19
” Even if the US, Europe, Russia, China, and Japan, all collapsed, the one thing you can be sure of is …”

… that American aid to Israel would continue.

Pillz
Member Thu Jun 23 10:55:28
Lol

jergul
large member Thu Jun 23 13:24:25
Well, I dont think the US calling kettle's black will do much to enhance the Western narrative in the AU or Brick countries.

I mention this as the timing of the statement coincides with Russian diplomatic efforts in both of those arenas.

Sam Adams
Member Thu Jun 23 13:46:03
Russia has been comitting savagery and threatening nuclear war for 70 years. We have the right therefore to de-exist russia.

murder
Member Thu Jun 23 15:25:36

Putting out statements just to make noise.

jergul
large member Thu Jun 23 15:38:05
Sammy
The Russian "The West will never let you get ahead, so dont let them divide and conquer" narrative is prolly one you will not beat for hypocracy and other reasons.

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Rugian Member	Thu Jun 23 06:17:54 WASHINGTON—The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the Helsinki Commission, today announced the following online briefing: DECOLONIZING RUSSIA A Moral and Strategic Imperative Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:00 a.m. Register: http://ush...43d40f2b988be5e94f7614ea4a6768 Russia’s barbaric war on Ukraine—and before that on Syria, Libya, Georgia, and Chechnya—has exposed the Russian Federation’s viciously imperial character to the entire world. Its aggression also is catalyzing a long-overdue conversation about Russia’s interior empire, given Moscow’s dominion over many indigenous non-Russian nations, and the brutal extent to which the Kremlin has taken to suppress their national self-expression and self-determination. Serious and controversial discussions are now underway about reckoning with Russia’s fundamental imperialism and the need to “decolonize” Russia for it to become a viable stakeholder in European security and stability. As the successor to the Soviet Union, which cloaked its colonial agenda in anti-imperial and anti-capitalist nomenclature, Russia has yet to attract appropriate scrutiny for its consistent and oftentimes brutal imperial tendencies. ---- The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, also known as the U.S. Helsinki Commission, is an independent commission of the U.S. Federal Government. For over 45 years, the Commission has monitored compliance with the Helsinki Accords and advanced comprehensive security through promotion of human rights, democracy, and economic, environmental, and military cooperation in the 57-nation OSCE region. http://www.csce.gov/international-impact/press-and-media/press-releases/decolonization-russia-be-discussed-upcoming
Seb Member	Thu Jun 23 06:38:29 Quite right. Putin is very, very open about his imperial agenda.
Seb Member	Thu Jun 23 06:39:42 Frankly there is a reasonable case that Russia itself as a core state is still essentially a Muscovite empire and would benefit from genuine reforms to decentralise - but that is an issue for the Russian people.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 23 06:46:28 Yes. Please decolonize Russia. I have previously said that on this path of decimating fiat and centralization of power, considering that the USA+minions are pulling themselves apart organically, something needs to be done with Russia and China. To some extent these countries are already being or going to be crushed in the vacuum of their own demography. Anything we the west can do, with our own last breaths to pull them down together with us, I see as a strategic and moral imperative.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 23 06:47:57 This century is probably going to be very eventful as the deck is reshuffled.
murder Member	Thu Jun 23 07:27:18 "Yes. Please decolonize Russia. I have previously said that on this path of decimating fiat and centralization of power, considering that the USA+minions are pulling themselves apart organically, something needs to be done with Russia and China." Even if the US, Europe, Russia, China, and Japan, all collapsed, the one thing you can be sure of is that global finance will not be taken over by a bunch of shady grifters with their homemade money.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jun 23 08:18:30 Global finance is the creation of a bunch of shady grifters with home made money though. We have gotten as far as we can trying to balance and control that behavior with regulation and reached the technical lifespan and inherent limits of the system. When building a different system, it is to be expected that the shady grifting behavior will infest the very early iterations. This will take years.
Paramount Member	Thu Jun 23 10:17:19 ” Even if the US, Europe, Russia, China, and Japan, all collapsed, the one thing you can be sure of is …” … that American aid to Israel would continue.
Pillz Member	Thu Jun 23 10:55:28 Lol
jergul large member	Thu Jun 23 13:24:25 Well, I dont think the US calling kettle's black will do much to enhance the Western narrative in the AU or Brick countries. I mention this as the timing of the statement coincides with Russian diplomatic efforts in both of those arenas.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 23 13:46:03 Russia has been comitting savagery and threatening nuclear war for 70 years. We have the right therefore to de-exist russia.
murder Member	Thu Jun 23 15:25:36 Putting out statements just to make noise.
jergul large member	Thu Jun 23 15:38:05 Sammy The Russian "The West will never let you get ahead, so dont let them divide and conquer" narrative is prolly one you will not beat for hypocracy and other reasons.
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