Utopia Talk / Politics / I have no idea if this is real or not.

murder Member	Fri Jun 24 07:57:04 OSINTtechnical @Osinttechnical Alchevs'k, Luhansk Oblast, a Russian SAM fails during launch http://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1540195160310665217 *shrug*
Rugian Member	Fri Jun 24 08:53:12 Pretty!
TheChildren Member	Fri Jun 24 12:20:50 lololol its FAKE. i just happen 2 be readin this crap about hmiars or whatever its called being received and immediately used by ukraine... look at da footage. it almost da same as footage from OP!!! LOLOLOL http://twi...ystems-used-first-time-ukraine
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 24 12:27:05 Yeah don't bother watching that munute clip tc just posted, it is literally a minute of successful missile launches. Op looks legit.
TheChildren Member	Fri Jun 24 12:29:58 what r u an idiot. thats ur hardware being launched moron.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 24 14:25:44 *shrug* indeed. Hardware have failure rates in the low percentages.
murder Member	Fri Jun 24 15:14:57 There's failure and then there's shit turning back on itself. If that's real, that fucking brutal.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 24 15:26:22 http://www...failed_ukrainian_buk_1_launch/ ======= No secondary explosions, so it just looks brutal. Launchers are generally armoured against shrapnel, so you need direct hits.
murder Member	Fri Jun 24 15:35:22 Yeah but that's failure. The one in the OP seems to have locked on to their own radar.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 24 16:42:11 The radar is not by the launcher
jergul large member	Fri Jun 24 16:42:46 I am pretty sure that was an s-300 series missile
murder Member	Fri Jun 24 17:18:33 "The radar is not by the launcher" That missile begged to differ.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 24 17:22:00 Not really. It could not have locked on to the launcher. terminal radar is front sector only. It could not have seen the launcher.
murder Member	Fri Jun 24 18:10:59 Again, that missile begged to differ.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 25 02:32:41 Again, it missed the vehicle and had no targetting instrument capable of targetting the vehicle when it initiall veered off course. Just because you want something to be true does not make it true.
murder Member	Sat Jun 25 07:08:34 Apparently everyone and their brother in law was filming this. http://twitter.com/samotniyskhid/status/1540115418320453632
Seb Member	Sat Jun 25 09:00:29 Jergul: The missile doesn't return to the launcher - the angle makes it look like it does but there are other videos, it turns to the left. May well have locked onto radar or something else.
Seb Member	Sat Jun 25 09:00:59 Assuming it has some kind of seeker I mean.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 25 23:07:16 Seb You would do better saying that to murder. I suspect half the stabilizing fins did not deploy after launch, so it looped around.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 25 23:10:57 The easiest explanation. Two stuck long enough for it to make a nice 180 then continue on course. The missile systems have midcourse correction + terminal homing. It was on a powered balistic trajectory when it failed. No guidance on offer at that stage of post launch.
murder Member	Sun Jun 26 07:21:26 "May well have locked onto radar or something else." Of course it did. The easiest explanation is Russian incompetence.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 26 13:24:56 Not how the missiles work. But you are sometimes counterfactual, so why not? Or be creative! Ukraine planted faeries on that particular missile. Anything goes!
Pillz Member	Mon Jun 27 13:08:35 Another video of this exists, from much closer to the explosion. The missile failed after launch and just turn back into the ground. Difficult to tell from the video exactly where it landed in relation to the launcher but it's clear it landed a fair distance forward of where it launched. By fair I mean maybe a couple hundred meters.
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