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Dukhat
Member Mon Jun 27 11:13:43
Pretty fucking annoying over the last few months.

My sources in the industry say it's because people are getting sick again and there's a worker shortage.

Pretty fucked up. No easy answer either though that Trump Judge who ended the mask mandate probably made things worse.

Fuck I hate layovers.

murder
Member Mon Jun 27 11:15:54

Infections have gone up, although nowhere near where they were ... but very few people are dying.

Paramount
Member Mon Jun 27 11:56:07
Worker shortage. Airports laid off workers during da pandemic. And now it takes some time to hire people again.

Sam Adams
Member Mon Jun 27 13:13:09
Airlines cant hire workers fast enough now that the pandemic is over. Compounded with the baby boomer retirement wave, and especially the decreasing competence of the world as a whole.

Some airlines are doing worse than others(delta is worst right now).

Rugian
Member Mon Jun 27 17:10:25
Dukhat, did you just claim that a lack of mask mandates are making pilots sick?

Pilots. The guys that spend 95% of their flight time in a tiny cockpit with each other.

Lol you fucking idiot.

Dukhat
Member Mon Jun 27 17:18:39
I said people working in the airline industry. So no, not just pilots. And pilots regulaly interact with flight attendants who regularly interact with passengers anyways. And both make up only a fraction of the many varied people who work in the airline industry.

Reading is hard isn't it Rugina.

earthpig
GTFO HOer Mon Jun 27 17:42:39
My buddy just spent >24 hours in Atlanta.

@SA - which airline is least impacted?

earthpig
GTFO HOer Mon Jun 27 17:46:52
"Pilots. The guys that spend 95% of their flight time in a tiny cockpit with each other."

And, according to a tik tok account I deem credible, the single ones spend a lot of the rest of the time hanging out with the flight attendants and other pilots.

LCOL hubs also have a niche of landlord that rents by the room to airline industry folks (local to me it's travelling nurses that is the equivalent niche).

I was sick to death of the masks, so I'm totally fine with seeing them go, but to me it passes a basic probability test that sick passengers making flight attendants sick will make pilots sick.

Coin toss if they are any more or less exposed than me with my small kids in daycare throwing snot at each other all day. But I'm also in a 200sq ft office by myself all day, so I pretty much still go to work no matter what, with little risk of exposing others to whatever random ass plague my children have bestowed on me for the given week.

earthpig
GTFO HOer Mon Jun 27 17:48:29
Early COVID was the first time since my daughter had entered daycare, in her entire life, that she (& by extension my wife and I, at least a little bit) was NOT sick for an entire month in a row.

earthpig
GTFO HOer Mon Jun 27 17:50:12
Anyways, last random rant, we don't to have a fiat one size fits all solution here.

If ABC airline wants to have everyone mask up, they should 100% be able to do so. And we the consumers can vote with our dollars, knowing the trade-off *may* (to the extent that our single slutty pilots/flight attendants do/don't co-habitate within the same company when off work) be less likely to have flight cancellations or delays.

murder
Member Mon Jun 27 17:55:21

"Pilots. The guys that spend 95% of their flight time in a tiny cockpit with each other."

Yeah but the other 5% is spent fucking the flight attendants who spend all their time dealing with the passengers. ;o)

Sam Adams
Member Mon Jun 27 20:28:55
"SA - which airline is least impacted?"

Of the airlines youd actually want to fly, Id say southwest right now, but they fucked up bad last fall. Maybe american?

earthpig
GTFO HOer Tue Jun 28 02:19:40
I guess SW makes sense. Only one major airplane model and all, so by default all of your pilots are licensed to pilot... all of your aircraft. Same with mechanics, etc, making it easiest to swap resources around. More fluidity and liquidity. Resilience. Same reason the military tries to minimize the models of shit in inventory, even if it isn't the best Foozlewizzle, the fact that we only have a single Foozlewizzle to maintain and supply has wartime advantages.

What's the story of American Airlines? What grants them resiliency?

williamthebastard
Member Tue Jun 28 04:37:32
are they obliged to pay compensation as in the EU?

Sam Adams
Member Tue Jun 28 08:32:47
"What's the story of American Airlines? What grants them resiliency?"

Dunno? Better choices? Fewer pandemic layoffs? Luck?

"are they obliged to pay compensation as in the EU?"

Sometimes. They have to cover your expenses when its their fault.

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Dukhat Member	Mon Jun 27 11:13:43 Pretty fucking annoying over the last few months. My sources in the industry say it's because people are getting sick again and there's a worker shortage. Pretty fucked up. No easy answer either though that Trump Judge who ended the mask mandate probably made things worse. Fuck I hate layovers.
murder Member	Mon Jun 27 11:15:54 Infections have gone up, although nowhere near where they were ... but very few people are dying.
Paramount Member	Mon Jun 27 11:56:07 Worker shortage. Airports laid off workers during da pandemic. And now it takes some time to hire people again.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Jun 27 13:13:09 Airlines cant hire workers fast enough now that the pandemic is over. Compounded with the baby boomer retirement wave, and especially the decreasing competence of the world as a whole. Some airlines are doing worse than others(delta is worst right now).
Rugian Member	Mon Jun 27 17:10:25 Dukhat, did you just claim that a lack of mask mandates are making pilots sick? Pilots. The guys that spend 95% of their flight time in a tiny cockpit with each other. Lol you fucking idiot.
Dukhat Member	Mon Jun 27 17:18:39 I said people working in the airline industry. So no, not just pilots. And pilots regulaly interact with flight attendants who regularly interact with passengers anyways. And both make up only a fraction of the many varied people who work in the airline industry. Reading is hard isn't it Rugina.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Jun 27 17:42:39 My buddy just spent >24 hours in Atlanta. @SA - which airline is least impacted?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Jun 27 17:46:52 "Pilots. The guys that spend 95% of their flight time in a tiny cockpit with each other." And, according to a tik tok account I deem credible, the single ones spend a lot of the rest of the time hanging out with the flight attendants and other pilots. LCOL hubs also have a niche of landlord that rents by the room to airline industry folks (local to me it's travelling nurses that is the equivalent niche). I was sick to death of the masks, so I'm totally fine with seeing them go, but to me it passes a basic probability test that sick passengers making flight attendants sick will make pilots sick. Coin toss if they are any more or less exposed than me with my small kids in daycare throwing snot at each other all day. But I'm also in a 200sq ft office by myself all day, so I pretty much still go to work no matter what, with little risk of exposing others to whatever random ass plague my children have bestowed on me for the given week.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Jun 27 17:48:29 Early COVID was the first time since my daughter had entered daycare, in her entire life, that she (& by extension my wife and I, at least a little bit) was NOT sick for an entire month in a row.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Jun 27 17:50:12 Anyways, last random rant, we don't to have a fiat one size fits all solution here. If ABC airline wants to have everyone mask up, they should 100% be able to do so. And we the consumers can vote with our dollars, knowing the trade-off may (to the extent that our single slutty pilots/flight attendants do/don't co-habitate within the same company when off work) be less likely to have flight cancellations or delays.
murder Member	Mon Jun 27 17:55:21 "Pilots. The guys that spend 95% of their flight time in a tiny cockpit with each other." Yeah but the other 5% is spent fucking the flight attendants who spend all their time dealing with the passengers. ;o)
Sam Adams Member	Mon Jun 27 20:28:55 "SA - which airline is least impacted?" Of the airlines youd actually want to fly, Id say southwest right now, but they fucked up bad last fall. Maybe american?
earthpig GTFO HOer	Tue Jun 28 02:19:40 I guess SW makes sense. Only one major airplane model and all, so by default all of your pilots are licensed to pilot... all of your aircraft. Same with mechanics, etc, making it easiest to swap resources around. More fluidity and liquidity. Resilience. Same reason the military tries to minimize the models of shit in inventory, even if it isn't the best Foozlewizzle, the fact that we only have a single Foozlewizzle to maintain and supply has wartime advantages. What's the story of American Airlines? What grants them resiliency?
williamthebastard Member	Tue Jun 28 04:37:32 are they obliged to pay compensation as in the EU?
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jun 28 08:32:47 "What's the story of American Airlines? What grants them resiliency?" Dunno? Better choices? Fewer pandemic layoffs? Luck? "are they obliged to pay compensation as in the EU?" Sometimes. They have to cover your expenses when its their fault.
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