Utopia Talk / Politics / Greatest Sandwiches

nhill Member	Tue Jun 28 17:41:52 I just consumed two big mothafking sandwich which ranks right there as one of the kings of sandwiches. Words cannot describe the taste, smell and utter satisfaction. Just one of these mean mothafkers is twice the size of a big mac. And I ate TWO. I fking OWN. Nothing like fresh, warm ciabatta (straight from the oven; you should have seen the hot air when I sliced it in half), lettuce, tomato slices, big chunk of raw tuna (half a pound of fresh tuna consumed in total, yes I said POUND), cocktail sauce. Yummie yummie. Damn, I can barely move right now. Thats one mean mothafking sandwich. The ingredients costed me a fking arm and a leg but so worth it. So worth it. Raw tuna (not the canned shiat, but fresh raw tuna steaks bought straight from fishmongers). I had the foresight to save some tuna for tomorrow, upon which I will make myself one big ass mean sandwich again. Hahaha its good to be nhill.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Jun 28 18:21:20 Another classic The Children thread, where he was bullied at work. It's a bit sad actually. http://utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=48587
nhill Member	Tue Jun 28 18:28:54 "The Children Member Wed Jul 20 09:42:03 no, kid. u took it up the ass. i got my revenge. warrior style, motherfker." I think the saddest part of this thread is that TC doesn't see why it is sad.
Habebe Member	Tue Jun 28 19:14:19 This one brings back memories. "The ingredients costed me a fking arm and a leg but so worth it." Oh no, all.his monies!
nhill Member	Wed Jun 29 12:42:03 Hehe
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 29 12:47:52 " Tue Jun 28 19:14:19 This one brings back memories. "The ingredients costed me a fking arm and a leg but so worth it." Oh no, all.his monies! " >> why u say this like u can afford anything else other than playin 16 bit ROM games on ur pc from 2001?
patom Member	Wed Jun 29 17:02:15 If you want sandwiches, the best are made in Philly metro area.
nhill Member	Wed Jun 29 17:04:58 What is your favorite?
Y2A Member	Wed Jun 29 18:57:52 a fat cat or fat darrell
patom Member	Wed Jun 29 20:10:50 The last time I was in Philly was in 2009. My cousins took me to a Jewish deli where I got a liverwurst and sweet Vidalia onion on freshly baked rye bread. My mouth is still watering for that. It's a toss up between some great Hoagies or Cheese steaks. The secret is the rolls. There used to be a bakery in the Richmond section of Philly that was only open a few days a week. They made the best rolls ever.
Habebe Member	Wed Jun 29 21:13:33 Patom is pretty spot on with most everything he just said. That region really takes its sandwiches seriously.I couldnt pick just one. But it definitely all starts with the roll. Roast pork and broccoli raab , os pretty good too. Always wanted to try an authentic Cuban though.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 05:17:23 I know Patom is into Jameson. Jameson is very smooth and mild. I havent got much to spend my money on over here since I inherited my fully-paid for condo, so one of the things Ive been indulging in is whiskey. If you like smooth whiskeys, that translates to Speyside in Scottish terms. Mid-range to midupper Speyside range, depending on age: Aberlour is just delicious, man, whether you pick a younger or older one. Highly recommend.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 05:20:44 Yeah, my mum used to take me to a Jewish deli in the West End where all the famous actors and celebrities hung out when I was a kid, still remember those salt beef sandwiches
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 08:17:49 But today i ordered a very different meal for the george benson outdoor concert next week. Havent eaten this in 25 years. And the name only struck me just now. Is this Patels latest gig? http://www.zamnesia.com/1801-magic-truffles-utopia.html
patom Member	Thu Jun 30 09:49:53 william, I love Jameson but too expensive, so I settle for Black Velvet for my night cap. I mostly stopped drinking beer because I'm trying to lose weight, slowly. dropped about 25 lbs. in the last year. Plus I'm a cheap old fuck. When I grew up we went for volume vs. high end.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 10:15:26 Yeah, canadians are smooth too.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 10:21:42 http://sta...Classic-Laddie-alt-318x768.png If you like scotch, highly recommend The Classic Laddie (or The Laddie Eight). It's an Islay, which are usually strongly peated, but this one is unpeated. Haven't found anything close to as good in the price range.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 10:35:04 Sounds interesting, Ill keep an eye out. I need to get into som Islay stuff at some point anyway, even if Im mainly interested in smoke in that category. But that damn Aberlour man, if you see it, dont hesitate, especially the higher end ones.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 10:37:10 The 3 cask one is smooth as a cats back, easy enough for your granny to swig and full-bodied enough to silence a connoisseur for 5 minutes
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 30 10:40:42 Also: the JD Single barrel? Buy it, pour the stuff inside down the toilet and use the very pretty bottle for real whiskey, as I do.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 14:34:57 I'll pick up some Aberlour this weekend :)
obaminated Member	Thu Jun 30 14:39:08 I've found pulled pork sandwiches are the most delicious on a hot summer day.
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 15:34:41 >Im mainly interested in smoke in that category It's still smoky, but it doesn't have the peaty flavor that tastes like mold like most Islay variants
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 15:35:37 Had a BBQ pulled beef sandwich today, and it's been over 100 lately. Can verify as satisfying in this weather. ;)
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 15:36:50 If you ever are in Austin, find the brisket sandwich at the "Rolling Smoke" food truck. It knocks these made in Philly metro area sandwiches out of the water. :P
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 15:37:43 Good luck finding the truck, though, that's part of the fun. Usually is on east 6th street
nhill Member	Thu Jun 30 15:45:58 European's can't cook barbeque for some reason, and when I took a friend from Denmark to the Rolling Smoke truck he started tearing up while eating from how delicious it was. Reminds me of the TC story, as my friend also went back and ate another sandwich (they are $12 and huge, never seen anyone eat two).
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 02:50:47 "It knocks these made in Philly metro area sandwiches out of the water. :P" Id be willing to try it. But my prejudice finds itnhard to beleive the rolls are not terrible. The further away from Philly I get the worse the rolls seem to get.
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 03:11:09 And the Amish...my god can they cook.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 03:59:36 Finished off a 15 y o chivas and a 28 y o Ben Bracken last night, had to since they were opened several months ago. the 15 y o chivas is so-so, but the Bracken thing was pretty chocolaty and thick and warm. Low-cost Lidl has a good rep in France for buying up wine and booze from reputable producers and selling it under their own brand so thought I'd try their 28 y o speyside. For the money, its a great deal
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 04:03:17 ...Which has actually got me mildly interested in whiskey auctions, bid on a couple of nice vats, store them for a few years, the interest in recent decades has been very good apparently
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 04:04:36 "Finished off a 15 y o chivas and a 28 y o Ben Bracken last night, had to since they were opened several months ago. the 15 y o chivas is so-so, but the Bracken thing was pretty chocolaty and thick and warm. " Nobody needs to know about your sex life.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 04:05:23 I wish
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 04:17:07 Lol. I agree though LIDL has decent wine cheap.Like dirt cheap. They probably offer more Cali wines here than there for.obcious reasons.
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 04:17:45 Cali wine is pretty cheap here without tariffs etc.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 04:27:42 Sure, also, Lidl has different segments and campaigns in different countries as well as different quality levels. Cali, of course, does some good wines (its amusing that Cali actually comes from the muslim word for caliphate). The US ones dont seem to do any of their whiskey brands, for example. Here, in France, theyve boosted their image by selling good wine and spirits under no-name brands. Theyre also good at oysters etc., but that might be a regional thing, given that I live by the Med. Otherwise, theyre pretty crap, but their aged whiskies are well worth it.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 04:34:34 I mean, any whiskey thats been reserved for 28 years is gonna be pretty good, and Lidl is so big that theyre probably more concerned with being utterly truthful than smaller dealers. Also, that kind of business is saturated with legal verifications etc, so you really do get an almost 30 y o whiskey for like 5-600 bucks, which isnt bad.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 04:35:21 * for like 50-60 bucks
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 05:04:38 Lidl cant legally sell liquor innthe US in most places. Stores can get licenses, but it's rare. In my experience liquor 90% of the time is sold at bars and state stores.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 05:24:02 Anyway, if you ever go to Bottle King, my cousin married the owners daughter and is now one of the top execs, in one of his usual male-whore moves, so every bottle you buy there goes toward my nieces college
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 05:39:27 Cool.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 05:50:49 You know of them? He'll inherit it all one day, the useless little potsmokn' gigolo lol
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Jul 01 07:08:33 "muslim word for caliphate" Arab word.
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 07:18:31 I thought it was from an old Spanish book about black Amazonian women?
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 07:24:15 they dont really know, but caliphate is apparently a strong contender, muslims who saw them as an autonomous society/self-ruled caliphate or something
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jul 01 07:25:35 Theres also a luxurious area here in Cannes called la californie which I like to cycle through, but I cant find out which was first, the american or the french one
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 16:36:47 Habebe, you are probably right about the rolls. I've never paid much attention to it. Pretty sure you could put this brisket on wonder bread and it would be better than a Philly sandwich. The meat is smoked for days, super tender, melts in your mouth. It's the star of the show. But if rolls are the star of your sandwiches, it's probably not going to be your thing. But everyone knows Texas beats the pants off the east coast when it comes to meat. Y'all have to put processed cheese from a can on top of the meat to cover up how low quality the meat is. ;)
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 16:37:49 I say it all in jest, of course. Everyone has their own preferences and a good sandwich is a good sandwich! Love me some cheesesteak.
Habebe Member	Fri Jul 01 18:10:26 Nhill, Alot of what passes for a Philly cheese steak (even IN Philly) isn't that good. Like, pats and Ginos? Its tourist food. Most people go to their local joint of choice. Tony Likes makes something special, he starts with dry aged prime rib. I was appalled at the restaurant choices in the south though when I moved here. For starters its like 90% chain/fast food. I was spoiled with every block having atleast either a deli/Italian/Chinese/ diner of some sort. In Philly if you ever have the chance and havnt been I would reccomend reading terminal, especially the Amish, everything they make will kill you, but it's kind of worth it. As for meat, it depends. Brisket? Probably TX....but I wouldnt discount the Amish whipping something up.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 18:19:34 I would love to check those out. As for restaurant choices, I agree, there's not much down here (in terms of world-class food) to speak of outside of BBQ. But Texas BBQ has a monopoly IMO. Never seen any area come even close to something like Franklin's BBQ or the rolling smoke truck I mentioned. It's many tiers above any other BBQ. But that Amish food sounds delicious, next time I'm in the area I'm going to contact you for reccs.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 18:26:21 http://sho...dc?_pos=4&_sid=5ed27111f&_ss=r this thing changed my life, perfectly baked bread each morning with 10 minutes of effort. plus, the smell of fresh baked bread each day perks me up more than coffee it's worth saving up for it, as it'll pay itself off compared to store bough bread (and it's better for you, no preservatives, corn syrup, etc). Each loaf costs about $1 in ingredients to make, so it pays itself off within a year.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 18:27:06 $1 in ingredients if you buy it in bulk, that is. It's closer to $2 if you aren't buying 50lb bags of flour (the primary expense)
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 18:35:24 Hmm apparently one of my posts didn't go through. I was wondering if Habebe knew of any good cheesesteak recipes, but then had second thoughts because it sounds like it's highly dependent on the roll used, so I'd have to bake them myself. That's why I was talking about the bread maker...my skills for baking go straight to zero without it.
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 18:48:43 Also, I'm realizing the bread maker may not pay itself off for most people. We have a big family and can get through a loaf per day, but if you're single it may not be worth it as bread goes stale in a few days when it doesn't have all the chemicals in it
Pillz Member	Fri Jul 01 19:27:46 "Also, I'm realizing the bread maker may not pay itself off for most people. We have a big family and can get through a loaf per day, but if you're single it may not be worth it as bread goes stale in a few days when it doesn't have all the chemicals in it" Yeah that'd require someone go through like several hundred loafs a year when you factor in ingredient costs....
nhill Member	Fri Jul 01 19:30:50 You save at least a dollar per loaf, so about 1 year for us
Habebe Member	Sat Jul 02 01:59:49 "As for restaurant choices, I agree, there's not much down here (in terms of world-class food) to speak of outside of BBQ. But Texas BBQ has a monopoly IMO." Now see If figure TX would Have a better selection. SC and even NC and nearby states seem lacking. Charleston and some of bigger coastal areas have some, especially seafood. Oprah used to fly to the reading terminal for Mac & cheese. Shady maple used to be really good, its an Amish buffet (Schmorgesbourg) but TBH I havnt been there in atleast 10 years. Ibe always wanted to try real Texas BBQ it looks amazing. Actually I should try some the SC BBQ too. I know its down here. I almost gave up on eating out down here, But I'm probably under selling it. My brother is really fat and works for the fire dept., he might know some places. But he also lives on fast food....when I say fat I mean like only in America kind of fat. I used to make my own bread and dough, mostly "pizza dough" so high protein and gluten. I actually have a bread machine that probably still works. Most breads came out so heavy in that thing. I used to go to this winery/bakery right near a nature reserve/state park, I forget the name, theblake was callwd Takena, lake Galena at peace valley, any way this little shop was like minutes from there on site an orchard. They baked daily and even sliced it for you with a machine that looked 100 yrs old. I discovered the place because I used to smoke alot of pot and wander around the nature reserve. It just came to me, Taborah farms it was called. Omg, yes that place.
Habebe Member	Sat Jul 02 02:02:01 I would love some home made sourdough/pumpernickel or rye. But I'm no baker, it all came out so dense. My "pizza dough" I made often enough to make that pretty good back in the day.
nhill Member	Sat Jul 02 20:57:47 You can make sourdough rye and pumpernickel in one. I like making sourdough and rye for myself, and white bread for the kids (not the sugar/corn syrup laden shit tho, this is all organic ingredients and most the sugar gets eaten by the yeast). Each recipe you just put the ingredients in the bread maker in order from top to bottom then press a button. Takes about 10 minutes and comes out perfect every time. Just make sure you use a kitchen scale if you do it, as baking is very sensitive to ratios.
nhill Member	Sat Jul 02 21:03:35 As for the rest of your post above, sounds like Taborah Farms would be a fun getaway. ;) TX BBQ is out of this world if you know where to go. There's a bunch of crappy BBQ capitalizing on the trend though. Make sure you talk to a local. Austin has the best BBQ in the state out of the metro areas. But there's some places just as good or better out in the boondocks (e.g. Snow's in Lexington). I swear to god there's not a place on the planet that comes even close to the real thing. The people down here are insane about it, I've gotten into hours long conversations with pitmasters just walking down the street about the intricacies of BBQ in terms of temperature, equipment, wood, time, technique, etc. There's a ton of variables in good BBQ and a lot of these pitmasters have refined their craft over generations. It shows. Franklin's and Rolling Smoke are my two favorites, but Snow's is in the same league.
williamthebastard Member	Sun Jul 03 02:21:28 Makes zero sense that your bread dough is always dense but your pizza dough is good, since pizza dough is supposed to be even more airy than regular bread, to the point that you should use special, finely ground 000 flour. About ss much sense as anything else you say, I suppose.
TheChildren Member	Sun Jul 03 03:37:41 "European's can't cook barbeque for some reason, and when I took a friend from Denmark to the Rolling Smoke truck he started tearing up while eating from how delicious it was. " >> coz they a cuck culture. but muricans stole err i mean copied da BBQ techniques from cubans and chinese.
TheChildren Member	Sun Jul 03 04:31:31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW9hWPMzsk4 ewww disgustin
TheChildren Member	Sun Jul 03 04:47:57 these mothafuckers! disgustin, puke puke puke... look at how it turned out. those shitty amateurs, that shit looks disgustin!!!
williamthebastard Member	Tue Jul 12 13:15:16 They are here. 75gr of Utopian Grade magic shroomery. Tomorrow I shall make the greatest sandwich I have ever eaten. I havent done this in 25 years, but we only live once. http://ibb.co/sC98TfM
Habebe Member	Tue Jul 12 14:39:30 The last time I shrimp tripped my brother inlaw and I played table tennis by sound for like 2 hrs. No one wanted to score a point, we just wanted the beat to keep going, it was great.
nhill Member	Tue Jul 12 15:50:20 Polished off the bottle of Abelour last weekend. Good stuff. A bit sweeter than I usually like in Scotch, but had a great finish, like a lingering taste of sweet breads.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jul 13 00:32:37 Oh great, glad you liked it. Yeah, this stuff is very gentle Speyside stuff. Sweetbreads sounds a likely candidate. Just did a glenlivet 12 which was quite similar, slightly cleaner but very good, definitely worth having as the house brand
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jul 13 00:35:04 which aberlour did you do? Ive done the 12 and the triple cask and looking for their a'bunadh now
patom Member	Wed Jul 13 15:41:35 back on the subject of great sandwiches. So far today I've had two lobster rolls. We got our rebate checks from Governor Mills and my brilliant wife said we should go to McLaughlin's seafood in Bangor and buy some shelled lobster. She bought 2 1/2 lb. Damn, that's some wicked good eating.
nhill Member	Wed Jul 13 15:51:39 Abelour 12 was the one I purchased
williamthebastard Member	Tue Jul 19 10:07:30 Lets do this http://ibb.co/Z6h8sbM
williamthebastard Member	Tue Jul 19 10:26:09 lighter on the chocolate than the 12, slightly more fruit, both light and dark fruits. Im guessing thats down to the casks. I kinda miss the thick chocolate, tho
williamthebastard Member	Tue Jul 19 10:32:36 Just ridiculously smooth. Lethal, because you want to drink it like wine
nhill Member	Thu Jul 21 13:12:34 Nice! Have to give that one a shot, maybe this weekend. Although I think I'm going to do a 3 day dry fast tomorrow like I do each season. May have to wait until next weekend. You have to get the laddie I recommended above and report back!
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