Utopia Talk / Politics / Myths and other falsehoods

Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Jul 02 08:14:24 One of my favorite mythical falsehoods is this idea that Peacock males carry their feathers at great cost, that it only serves as visual "aid" in mating their strategy and is actually detrimental to their overall chances for surviving. In all fairness, Darwin himself entertain something akin to this about Peacocks. 1. Peacock male feathers molt and they only have the massive feathers during mating seasons. 2. It serves also as deterrence against predators. 3. Why on earth would detachable tail feathers, be negative for surviving a predatory attack? Just ask lizards. Exhibit A. Tiger vs peacock. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8e5IxiT-70 Notice how the peacock seems to have no problems flying away and the tiger hesitating/flinching as the peacock folds the feathers down and towards the tiger. Then instinctively the tiger tries to claw the feathers as soon as they are in reach. This is one of those things, that didn't make sense to me as a child. Like when the told us you could see the great wall of china from the moon. Bitch! I have seen the pictures from satellites and you can't even see it from orbit!
Habebe Member	Sat Jul 02 08:26:21 You can see deez from the moon.
nhill Member	Sat Jul 02 21:05:09 DN?
patom Member	Sun Jul 03 06:17:43 People up the road from me have a bunch of exotic ducks, geese, chickens and now they have a peacock. I'm wondering what will get it first. Coyote, fox, or car.
LazyCommunist Member	Sun Jul 03 06:40:48 "Bitcoin is a currency"
TheChildren Member	Sun Jul 03 07:02:24 normal cash has inflation, bitcoin will counter inflation
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Jul 05 09:38:50 LC A currency is whatever people decide to use and accept as payment, it is thus not false that bitcoin is a currency. It's not a widely adopted or effective currency, but a currency none the less you could argue. There is too much risk fpr semantics here for this to be an objective example of something false that lingers in the general population. TC You are correct that bitcoin has thus far not worked as an inflation hedge. This is objectively and empirically true. It qualifies as "other falsehoods". Here is another myth: Shaving makes your hair grow quicker and/or thicker. This one is tricky, because anecdotally we can feel the precption of hair feeling thicker to the touch because shaving creats sharp angles, while growing hair will become cone formed and softer at the tip due to abrasion. But it is infact completely false. Hair grows from the root and the hair itself does not have the qualities that for instance skin does that can react to external stimuli and grow thicker. If you pull the hair out from the root, it will take time for the root to form again and be thin initially, but eventually grow back to the same thickness. Hair thickness is largely a factor of your genes.
murder Member	Tue Jul 05 09:44:28 Guns don't kill people.
Habebe Member	Tue Jul 05 10:04:10 Nhill, Yes, Im basically 12.lol Has anyone noticed how people handled polaroids? In the US it was common to fan them as if it made a faster picture. I remember around the world many cultures did similar bit different things
Average Ameriacn Member	Tue Jul 05 10:40:41 Biden has won the election.
nhill Member	Tue Jul 05 11:13:58 I always thought shaking polaroids did something but haven't thought about it forever, and, now that I do, why the fk would that make sense? lol Some things you don't question growing up Now shaking an etch-a-sketch, that works!
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Jul 05 11:26:49 I thought we shaked them to dry them? I can swear they were a little wet and people told you to not grab the picture before it was dry. Am I making this up? IS MY LIFE A LIE?
nhill Member	Tue Jul 05 11:41:31 You have to dry traditional film while you develop it. I remember doing that in a high school class. Also sometimes the 35mm from the kodak store wasn't totally dry after printing too, and you shook them when viewing the first time to be sure. I think Polaroid, on the hand, isn't printed, it's a chemical reaction. Nothing to dry there!
nhill Member	Tue Jul 05 11:58:52 on the other hand*
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Jul 05 12:26:43 This is the best I have, a CNN article from 2004. http://edi...'%20in%20the%20picture.%22 LONDON, England (Reuters) -- OutKast fans like to "shake it like a Polaroid picture," but the instant camera maker is warning consumers that taking the advice of the hip-hop stars could ruin your snapshots. OutKast's number one hit "Hey Ya" includes the "shake it" line as a reference to the motion that amateur photographers use to help along the self-developing film. But in the "answers" section on the Polaroid Web site, the company says that shaking photos, which once helped them to dry, is not necessary since the modern version of Polaroid film dries behind a clear plastic window. The image "never touches air, so shaking or waving has no effect," the company said on its site. "In fact, shaking or waving can actually damage the image. Rapid movement during development can cause portions of the film to separate prematurely, or can cause 'blobs' in the picture." A Polaroid spokesman added: "Almost everybody does it, thinking that shaking accelerates the development process, but if you shake it too vigorously you could distort the image. A casual shake typically doesn't affect it." Polaroid said its film should be laid on a flat surface and shielded from the wind, and that users should avoid bending or twisting their pictures. Of course, "lay it on a flat surface like a Polaroid picture," doesn't sound nearly as cool.
nhill Member	Tue Jul 05 12:46:45 The more you know!
nhill Member	Tue Jul 05 12:50:10 I always thought it was some sort of chemical reaction in the polaroid paper to light which caused it to not be printed (although I guess printing could be classified as a "chemical reaction", pretty generic term), and, therefore not need to dry. But it sounds like it did benefit from quicker drying at one point. The more you know. ;)
kargen Member	Tue Jul 05 18:56:11 Early Polaroids you coated with something so they wouldn't fade. People would shake them to dry them. People would also shake Polaroids before opening them thinking it helped with development. One art director I worked with was always happy and easier to get along with if we made a big deal out of shaking Polaroids before opening them. He liked a lot of action while on set so we did all kinds of unnecessary shit during a shoot. Early in switching from film to digital ad agencies didn't want to pay the same because they didn't think they were getting as much with no film to hold onto. They also didn't want to pay for Photoshop but didn't mind paying for film retouching when that was needed. Shampoo manufacturers put an ingredient in the shampoo to make if foam/lather up. THe lather does nothing to get your hair clean. It is added because people think the suds mean it is cleaning better. Not a myth but early in the consumer PC days a weight was put in the bottom of the PC. Some people thought it was for heat dispersion. It was actually put in because people at that time thought the heavier computers were somehow better.
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