Utopia Talk / Politics / Germany arrests jounalists

Habebe Member	Mon Jul 04 16:05:40 Alina lip is a German journalist who reports from Donnas region of the Ukraine. Apparently that's a crime in Germany because they say it's pro Putin. http://mor...-over-reporting-donbass-region Europeans hate freedom and diverse opinions. But this is the liberal world order were protecting.
Paramount Member	Tue Jul 05 16:44:22 Freedom of opinion and press freedom is only important as long as you follow the liberal agenda with its narrative.
Paramount Member	Tue Jul 05 16:44:57 * and its narrative
Habebe Member	Tue Jul 05 16:53:11 http://youtu.be/MgVYq0fc5nE Here is side of the story on video. Apparently "supporting the Russian invasion" is a crime. And reporting that many in the donbas region side with Russia is in violation of that, even if it's true. She is a German citizen too.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Tue Jul 05 16:59:44 Dude we all know you are only posting this shizz just because russia helped get trump elected and trump covered for them as much as he could when he was in power
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Tue Jul 05 17:02:28 http://web...nts-mueller-report-doc-1fr5vv1 Main points of Mueller report "The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. "The Special Counsel's investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. "First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. "Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton campaign and then released stolen documents." The report said there were numerous contacts between members of Trump's circle and Russia and that the campaign "expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts."
Habebe Member	Tue Jul 05 17:09:59 Trump isnt the president anymore.Get over it.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Tue Jul 05 17:16:56 Exactly dude so why the butthurt loyalty to russia? you hoping theyll help get him in again?
Habebe Member	Tue Jul 05 17:47:25 You think that accurate reporting is pro Russian? I'm pissed were starting another forever war.Biden/Congress lobe sending $ over there to extend am insurgency. And they are backing a losing cause, I just seen today the Ukraine withdrew another city surrendering it.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Tue Jul 05 17:53:52 "Afghanistan can't win, we should back russia" - Habebe 1979 You see any american troops in ukraine dude?
Daemon Member	Tue Jul 05 18:18:14 "You think that accurate reporting" Even for you this trolling attempt is very bad.
Habebe Member	Tue Jul 05 18:35:25 Jesse, Actually the US has boots on the ground. No soldiers I bekeice they are "advisors" like Vietnam. We're already outpacing spending from our Afghan war. Daemon, As far as I can tell, she isn't reporting falsehoods. His argument was that I don't care about accurate reporting and just that she is pro russian basically. However she is not. You have to admit its weird what she did is a crime in Germany.
Daemon Member	Wed Jul 06 03:37:16 "Daemon, As far as I can tell, she isn't reporting falsehoods." Yeah because you're retarded. This is a fact check and it's already more than 3 months old. Since then she is posting more fake news every day: (automatically translated) http://www.volksverpetzer.de/analyse/alina-lipp/ ... On Lipp's blog "News from Russia" there is a real horror story about organ trafficking. Allegedly, organs were taken from unconscious people who were still alive and sold by “black transplantologists”. The people, who are primarily soldiers, but also women and children, would then be cremated. Criminal organ trafficking and mass murder are said to be taking place under the cloak of war. That not only sounds suspiciously like a conspiracy theory with anti-Semitic implications (ritual murder legend), the complete lack of evidence for this spectacular claim also made us sit up and take notice. The colleagues at correctiv.org have already subjected this claim to a fact check (read the article). Their result: All claims in the blog post (including alleged "mobile crematoria" from Germany) are fictitious. The reason that Alina Lipp does not provide any evidence is simply that there is no evidence. Who would have thought? The story may sound stunning and fits well into the anti-Ukrainian narrative, but it's completely made up. ... Mariupol is already 90% destroyed or damaged, the city has been besieged by Russian bombs for weeks now (source). Humanitarian conditions in the city are catastrophic, according to a team from AP who had been waiting there at risk of death (source). It was also the AP team that sent the images from the destroyed children's hospital in Mariupol. They documented how one of the pregnant women then gave birth elsewhere while Russian propaganda cynically lied that they were just "actors" (source, fact check). Pictures from Maxar show that Russian bombs do not spare even a theater that was used as a shelter. "Children" was written in bold letters - visible from space: She claims that shots were fired at Mariupol from outside the city (at least she admits this) from the “Ukrainian direction”. Only: The city is surrounded. There is no "Ukrainian direction". Russian troops were advancing on the city from all sides (source). This map shows verified sightings by Russian troops at the time of the statement: Sergei Lavrov himself admitted that it was Russian troops who deliberately bombed the Mariupol maternity hospital, but he lies that there were no civilians left there. Pictures clearly refute that. Here the Russian propaganda once again did not coordinate so well. ... Alina Lipp circulated a video to claim that reports of the many civilians killed by the Russian bombardment are not true. But first, there is an enormous amount of evidence that clearly shows that there is an enormous amount of casualties among civilian targets: And secondly, the video she is showing here is actually a Russian music video, and not a scene of staged Ukrainian victims. The lie here is that no one ever claimed that the civilian casualties were from Ukraine. Here is a lie debunked that never existed. THAT is the lie. The video was already used last year to raise awareness against Corona, and it was also shared here to claim that the Corona victims were only "staged" and "actors" (source). It's not just the old strategies, even the same old fakes: ... Alina Lipp also shared the fabricated story of a boy's murder in Euskirchen, allegedly by Ukrainian refugees. The Bonn police denied the existence of such a case and said they believe it is a "fake video" targeted to incite hatred. The author of the video later apologized for having spread the fictitious story. The meaning behind it is clear: the murders of civilians by Russian soldiers in Ukraine should be distracted with such invented stories and hatred of Ukrainians should be stirred up.
Habebe Member	Wed Jul 06 06:49:51 "The colleagues at correctiv.org have already subjected this claim to a fact check" Oh yeah..."fact checkers" Its funny that the ghost of Kyiv stories led to no arrests. NPR in the US is known to literally just make up random fake stories. But we don't jail journalists.
Forwyn Member	Wed Jul 06 21:15:46 Germany now arresting people for "fake news". lol Germans cheer, and American leftist fags cry about muhhhhhhhh 2016 Russia it was herrrrrrr turn!
Daemon Member	Fri Jul 08 03:58:18 "Oh yeah..."fact checkers"" You should read more of their stuff, then you would write less BS. "Its funny that the ghost of Kyiv stories led to no arrests." We don't investigate her for spreading fake news.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Fri Jul 08 07:13:18
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