Utopia Talk / Politics / Viktor Orbán speaking at CPAC in Texas

murder Member	Thu Aug 04 09:15:32 Carlos E. Gates @CarlosEGates1 Victor Orban, the Hungarian president, and a favorite of the Trump MAGA movement says “the mixing of races is the biggest problem [in the West]”. After that statement, his staff resigned. He is now the guest speaker at the GOP’s CPAC next week. More proof the GOP= Nazism http://twitter.com/CarlosEGates1/status/1552700410644860929
murder Member	Thu Aug 04 09:15:58 Not that Republicans are racists or anything.
Dukhat Member	Thu Aug 04 09:37:21 Why the fuck do these fascists all fucking align with each other cross-border. They claim to be nationalists. Oh right, most are funded by foreign oligarchs and are just fucking playing a part. Fuck them and the stupid shits that follow along.
murder Member	Thu Aug 04 10:30:58 Because they are part of an international conspiracy.
Habebe Member	Thu Aug 04 10:48:44 I Like Orban.
murder Member	Thu Aug 04 10:49:11 No kidding?
Habebe Member	Thu Aug 04 10:51:57 His pro family policies are to my liking. Yeah, probably loosely based on Nazi policies, but basically they will pay you to have kids and start a family.
murder Member	Thu Aug 04 11:07:10 So like the welfare policies that Republicans like to accuse blacks of exploiting in the US?
Habebe Member	Thu Aug 04 11:22:27 So if a woman has a baby and she is under 40 she gets a 36k loan. If she has a 2nd baby 1/3 is wiped off and a 3rd baby and the loan becomes a gift. So not really like anything we have here. The idea, very reminiscent of actual Nazi policy is to let atomic families have a chance to buy a house and such.
murder Member	Thu Aug 04 12:04:34 Sure it is. In the US lazy blacks keep pumping out babies to get more and more government benefits. The difference is that the welfare queens aren't allowed to buy a house because we wouldn't want to hurt white property values. And of course there are the hard working real American white welfare queens with their child tax credits. Big government largesse for everyone! You've got to keep women pumping out babies so they don't get any empowerment ideas in their heads. ;o)
Paramount Member	Thu Aug 04 12:17:50 ” Why the fuck do these fascists all fucking align with each other cross-border” It is their strategy to support and help each other. For an example, Steve Bannon was touring in Europe a couple of years ago and met with all kinds of fascists.
Habebe Member	Thu Aug 04 12:44:28 Murder needs to have his own show on CNN. So these incentives are designed with the intent to have them have more kids. Honestly, a similar policy here would likely most dramatically impact minority families. There may be other stipulations IIRC around being married.
murder Member	Thu Aug 04 13:25:58 So being baby makers isn't enough, they have to subject themselves to the will of some man or risk getting cut off the gravy train?
Habebe Member	Thu Aug 04 14:26:54 Or vica versa. If anything the man loses out more. A marriage worthy man is just worth more. Women are more in demand for sex, they have the leverage, it switched for marriage.
Forwyn Member	Thu Aug 04 22:27:17 "empowerment" What empowerment?
Paramount Member	Fri Aug 05 03:29:53 US conservatives cheer Hungarian PM Viktor Orban at conference Dallas, Texas, US – During the last decade, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has consolidated power over Hungary’s judiciary and press and chipped away at the country’s democratic foundations. He has called “ethnic homogeneity” the key to economic growth, and deployed the army and erected razor wire fences to stop Syrian refugees from entering the country. Orban has championed a law banning teaching LGBTQ topics in schools, and in a speech in July, criticised creating peoples of ”mixed-race” and seemed to joke about Nazi gas chambers, prompting a longtime adviser to call his comments “pure Nazi” and “worthy of Goebbels”. “Orban was invited here to speak because his form of leadership should be a model for the United States,” said David Wall, a 23-year-old who works in forestry. http://www...-pm-viktor-orban-at-conference
Habebe Member	Fri Aug 05 04:24:11 Everyone is a Nazi. The same ppl shamomg Orban fully support arming and funding actual Neo Nazis. But that is somehow different. The pro family laws in the US would largely benefit minorities. Especially allowing urban dwellers a chance to move to the burbs. Sounds win win.Sure it coildnuse some tweaking.
Daemon Member	Fri Aug 05 07:34:37 What this world needs is more humans?
Habebe Member	Fri Aug 05 08:48:56 Absolutley.
murder Member	Fri Aug 05 17:15:06 Not.
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 05 17:17:05 I like Orban too.
murder Member	Fri Aug 05 17:21:39 No kidding?
Rugian Member	Fri Aug 05 17:30:00 You're right though. Conservatives are so racist that they support pro-life policies that would save countless millions of unborn black children, especially since black babies are currently being murdered in the womb at 3-5 times the rate of white ones). So racist. No one gives a shit if a married black couple decides to start a family and have children. That's great, it's part of the American dream, good for them. The problem is with this anti-family mentality that results in poor children being raised in broken single-parent homes that inevitably fail to teach them how to behave and thrive in society. And of course, idiot leftists encourage and financially incentivize that sort of mentality by offering welfare that almost rewards women for being single mothers. So yes, go Orban and let's go Brandon.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Aug 05 19:14:59 so this is how democracy dies… with thunderous applause
murder Member	Fri Aug 05 19:25:51 "You're right though. Conservatives are so racist that they support pro-life policies that would save countless millions of unborn black children, especially since black babies are currently being murdered in the womb at 3-5 times the rate of white ones). So racist." Well that cotton isn't picking itself. "No one gives a shit if a married black couple decides to start a family and have children. That's great, it's part of the American dream, good for them." Yeah because the American dream has never been intentionally kept from black families. Like it still doesn't happen anywhere the law doesn't forbid it, and even places where it does. "The problem is with this anti-family mentality that results in poor children being raised in broken single-parent homes that inevitably fail to teach them how to behave and thrive in society." You don't give a fuck about kids. Quit pretending. "And of course, idiot leftists encourage and financially incentivize that sort of mentality by offering welfare that almost rewards women for being single mothers." lol! The only people getting incentivized to have children are the middle class welfare queens. The checks poor people get are barely enough to keep them alive. "So yes, go Orban ..." But you're not racist.
Habebe Member	Fri Aug 05 19:37:20 ^Supports ACTUAL Nazis, but everyone else is the racist.
murder Member	Fri Aug 05 20:05:01 I don't give a shit about Putin's bullshit when it comes out of Putin's mouth. Russian forces are on the wrong side of their border. Not one single other thing matters.
Habebe Member	Fri Aug 05 21:41:41 Ok, so stop taking US tax dollars. That's the single thing that matters to me.
Habebe Member	Fri Aug 05 21:43:21 And it's well documented they have actual Nazis. But if your going to call everyone who likes Orbans pro family policies a Nazi its fair to point out you support arming and funding actual Nazis.
murder Member	Sat Aug 06 01:48:46 "Ok, so stop taking US tax dollars." Better Ukraine than Israel.
Dukhat Member	Sat Aug 06 06:55:05 Habebe trying to play the fiscal conservatism card about spending money on Ukraine. Fucking retarded. Even if you were intellectually honest about it, having Ukraine test our weapons against the Russians is a great deal for us as we get to see how they perform on the field and adjust. Better than spending hundreds of billions on another carrier group like Trump did when we already have 10 more carrier groups than the next guy who happens to be our ally anyways.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Sat Aug 06 07:13:35 Habebe really doesnt care about any of this Trump was pro russia which means habebe will be pro russia. Habebe will make up shizz to try and twist and justify it but it aint the real reason
Habebe Member	Sat Aug 06 07:19:20 "Habebe trying to play the fiscal conservatism card about spending money on Ukraine. Fucking retarded." We have already spent more in the Ukraine than the first 3 years of Afghanistan. So, yeah, I'm permitted to bitch. And let's face it, its a losing war.The goal is to extend the ear to weaken Russia, and Russia is making record profits while the West is in a recession, Germany is facing rolling black outs and lack of hot water....great job. Jmb, Exposes his real thoughts. He imagines Trump aligned with Russia, even though clearly its more Biden. But that's his mental image, Robin his mind its ok to destroy our country to "get back at Trump" as he sees it.
Habebe Member	Sat Aug 06 07:20:25 The same ppl that cried over an 8 billion dollar wall are fine with sending 10s of billions to the Ukraine regularly....
murder Member	Sat Aug 06 07:28:19 "And let's face it, its a losing war.The goal is to extend the ear to weaken Russia, and Russia is making record profits while the West is in a recession, Germany is facing rolling black outs and lack of hot water....great job." You wanted to cut off Russian gas.
murder Member	Sat Aug 06 07:30:11 "The same ppl that cried over an 8 billion dollar wall are fine with sending 10s of billions to the Ukraine regularly...." Yes. Helping finance the defense of Ukraine is a just cause. Building a wall to keep out brown people was a racist white nationalist cause.
Habebe Member	Sat Aug 06 09:43:41 "You wanted to cut off Russian gas." I wanted to transition off of it years ago. Ive also said it makes.no sense to fund both sides of a war. "Yes. Helping finance the defense of Ukraine is a just cause. Building a wall to keep out brown people was a racist white nationalist cause." Does that make.Biden a white Nationalist? He is building a wall. Its funny how DC and NYC suddenly want help with the migrant crisis.
murder Member	Sat Aug 06 16:55:26 "Ive also said it makes.no sense to fund both sides of a war." Well that was the result of your brilliant plan. Unfortunately the senile POS in the White House thought it was a good idea too.
murder Member	Sat Aug 06 16:56:19 "Does that make.Biden a white Nationalist? He is building a wall." Joe Biden wanted to keep schools segregated. I don't need additional evidence that he's garbage.
Habebe Member	Sat Aug 06 17:54:04 "Well that was the result of your brilliant plan." ??? Also, I love Murders turn against Biden now that thebleft media is distancing themselves from him too.
Habebe Member	Sat Aug 06 17:58:02 And lets no BS ourselves. Biden does not run the WH. He is the mascot, it's run by the Democratic party elite. More so than any Potus since maybe the last few years of Reagan. So when you support democrats, in general this WH represents their views pretty accurately. Trump was the opposite , hard to contain and just did his own thing. While the team approach has merits, I think results speak for themselves.
murder Member	Sat Aug 06 19:59:08 "Also, I love Murders turn against Biden now that thebleft media is distancing themselves from him too." There hasn't been a day that I've liked Joe Biden. Not as President. Not as Vice-President. Not as Senator. Not as a candidate for any office.
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