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murder Member	Thu Sep 22 00:12:39 Republicans Support Christian Nationalism Most Republicans Support Declaring the United States a Christian Nation New polling shows the appeal — and limits — of a Christian nationalist message. Christian nationalism, a belief that the United States was founded as a white, Christian nation and that there is no separation between church and state, is gaining steam on the right. Prominent Republican politicians have made the themes critical to their message to voters in the run up to the 2022 midterm elections. Doug Mastriano, the Republican nominee for governor in Pennsylvania, has argued that America is a Christian nation and that the separation of church and state is a “myth.” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Georgia hard-liner, declared: “We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian Nationalists.” Amid a backlash, she doubled down and announced she would start selling “Christian Nationalist” shirts. Now Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis seems to be flirting with Christian nationalist rhetoric, as well. Appeals to Christian nationalism have a long tradition in American history, though they have usually operated on the fringes. But the increasingly mainstream appearance of this belief in GOP circles makes sense if you look at new public opinion surveys. Our new University of Maryland Critical Issues Poll suggests that declaring the United States a Christian nation is a message that could be broadly embraced by Republicans in the midterms and 2024 presidential race. But our findings also see limits to its appeal — and over the long-term, Christian nationalism could be a political loser. ******************************** Most Republicans Say Christian Nationalism Is Unconstitutional — But Still Support It ******************************** Our national poll included 2,091 participants, carried out May 6-16, 2022, with a margin of error of +/- 2.14 percent. We started by asking participants if they believed the Constitution would even allow the United States government to declare the U.S. a “Christian Nation.” We found that 70 percent of Americans — including 57 percent of Republicans and 81 percent of Democrats — said that the Constitution would not allow such a declaration. (Indeed, the First Amendment says Congress can neither establish nor prohibit the practice of a religion.) We followed up by asking: “Would You Favor or Oppose the United States Officially Declaring the United States to be a Christian Nation?” The findings were striking. Overall, 62 percent of respondents said they opposed such a declaration, including 83 percent of Democrats and 39 percent of Republicans. Fully 61 percent of Republicans supported declaring the United States a Christian nation. In other words, even though over half of Republicans previously said such a move would be unconstitutional, a majority of GOP voters would still support this declaration. Not surprisingly, much of the support for declaring the U.S. a Christian nation comes from Republicans who identify themselves as Evangelical or born-again Christians: Seventy-eight percent of this group support the move compared to 48 percent of other Republicans. Among Democrats, a slight majority of those identifying themselves as Evangelical or born-again Christians also backed such a declaration (52 percent), compared to just 8 percent of other Democrats. Younger Generations, Including Younger Republicans, Are Less Supportive of Christian Nationalism Previous research has shown that the youngest generations — millennials (those born between 1981 and 1996) and Generation Z (those born between 1997 and 2012) — are less likely to be religiously affiliated and to trust religious institutions. That’s also consistent with the results from our Critical Issues Poll. We found that members of younger generations are less likely than those of older generations to support declaring the U.S. a Christian nation. Only about a quarter of Millennial respondents (25 percent) and a third of Generation Z respondents (34 percent) favor this declaration. By contrast, a majority of respondents from the two oldest generations — Silent Generation (those born between 1928 and 1945) and baby boomers (those born between 1946 and 1964) support the U.S. being declared a Christian nation (54 percent and 50 percent, respectively). Within the generations, partisanship also plays a role in shaping attitudes about Christian nationalism. Most Republicans in every age group favor designating the U.S. a Christian nation, but even more so in older generations. Fully 71 percent of Silent Generation Republicans and 72 percent of Republican baby boomers would like to see the U.S. officially declared a Christian nation, compared to 33 percent of Silent Generation Democrats and 20 percent of Democratic baby boomers. Among the youngest generations, we see that 51 percent of Millennial Republicans and 51 percent of Generation Z Republicans want the U.S. to be declared a Christian nation, compared to 10 percent of Millennial Democrats and 7 percent of Generation Z Democrats. Along with age, race can also play a factor when it comes to sympathizing with Christian nationalism. Our polling found that white grievance is highly correlated with support for a Christian nation. White respondents who say that members of their race have faced more discrimination than others are most likely to embrace a Christian America. Roughly 59 percent of all Americans who say white people have been discriminated against a lot more in the past five years favor declaring the U.S. a Christian nation, compared to 38 percent of all Americans. White Republicans who said white people have been more discriminated against also favored a Christian nation (65 percent) by a slightly larger percentage than all Republicans (63 percent). The rising threat to American democracy was made quite clear during the Jan. 6 insurrection, which featured, not incidentally, significant Christian nationalist imagery. Indeed, as our polling shows, a non-trivial number of Americans want to see the U.S. become a Christian nation— even if they acknowledge that the Constitution prohibits such a designation. Prominent Republican politicians have seized on this sentiment and are openly campaigning on a message of Christian nationalism. Our poll results demonstrate why this message may be resonating, at least among the most ardent, religious and older base of the Republican Party. However, this strategy may be short-sighted. As our findings demonstrate, there is strong opposition to declaring the U.S. a Christian nation among younger Americans, and even younger Republicans. For that reason, the GOP may want to tread carefully or risk alienating rising generations. http://www...es-a-christian-nation-00057736
Y2A Member	Thu Sep 22 00:15:17 Richard Dawkins needs to be required reading in all these schools.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 22 00:38:15 So, what is that supposed to mean? They want to sacrifice cows to Yaweh? They want to banish other religions? Is this just a scary word for ppl like murder to get worked up over?
kargen Member	Thu Sep 22 01:35:04 "We started by asking participants if they believed the Constitution would even allow the United States government to declare the U.S. a “Christian Nation.” We found that 70 percent of Americans — including 57 percent of Republicans and 81 percent of Democrats said that the Constitution would not allow such a declaration. " SO no need to ask any farther.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 22 01:59:08 There questions do not match up. "if they believed the Constitution would even allow the United States government to declare the U.S. a “Christian Nation" "“Would You Favor or Oppose the United States Officially Declaring the United States to be a Christian Nation?” Notice the subtle difference? The US and the US government are not the Same, now it gets hairy when you say officially declare, because who would declare it? Regardless its a poorly worded question. Plus again, they never ask.what that means. Do many people view the US as a largely white Christian nation, especially in the past? Yes. That's not the Same as enacting sharia law.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Sep 22 02:38:12 Yes, Habebe, king of convenient goalposts, because I'm sure the people who have time to waste by answering public polling spam calls are thinking of that nuance, and aren't just below average IQ voters.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 22 03:02:54 Ep, These are people who wear T-shirts and have bumper stickers proclaiming "I love my country but fear my government" The poll was worded badly, likely to help get a sensational story. Ask the question should congress enact legislation to make this a Christian nation and the answers will likley be different.
murder Member	Thu Sep 22 13:45:33 "SO no need to ask any farther." Except that ... "Fully 61 percent of Republicans supported declaring the United States a Christian nation. In other words, even though over half of Republicans previously said such a move would be unconstitutional, a majority of GOP voters would still support this declaration." They think it's unconstitutional and they don't care.
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 22 16:31:33 Murder, Its not unconstitutional to declare the US a Christian Nation, it largely is, or was. Thats different from having the government enforce religious practice. This poll was intentionally meant to get a pre determined outcome. They don't even define what that means.
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 22 16:39:19 "History of Massachusetts Bay Colony Government The structure of the colonial government changed over the lifetime of the charter. The Puritans established a theocratic government limited to church members. Winthrop, Dudley, the Rev. John Cotton, and other leaders sought to prevent dissenting religious views, and many were banished because of differing religious beliefs, including Roger Williams of Salem and Anne Hutchinson of Boston, as well as unrepentant Quakers and Anabaptists... The charter granted the general court the authority to elect officers and to make laws for the colony. Its first meeting in America was held in October 1630, but it was attended by only eight freemen.[56] They formed the first council of assistants and voted (contrary to the terms of the charter) that they should elect the governor and deputy from among themselves.[57] The general court determined at the next session that it would elect the governor and deputy.[58] An additional 116 settlers were admitted to the general court as freemen in 1631, but most of the governing and judicial power remained with the council of assistants.[59] They also enacted a law specifying that only those men who "are members of some of the churches" in the colony were eligible to become freemen and gain the vote.[57] This restriction was not changed until after the English Restoration.[58] The process by which individuals became members of one of the colony's churches involved a detailed questioning by the church elders of their beliefs and religious experiences; as a result, only individuals whose religious views accorded with those of the church leadership were likely to become members and gain the ability to vote in the colony.[60]" http://en....chusetts_Bay_Colony#Government Pretending that America was not founded as a Christian (and more specifically Protestant Christian) nation is as asinine as claiming that George Washington would have been cool with transgender fudgepackers getting married.
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 22 17:13:06 Presidents are sworn in with their hand on a Bible. We are a Christian nation.
murder Member	Thu Sep 22 18:07:36 "Presidents are sworn in with their hand on a Bible. We are a Christian nation." That's not so. Absolutely no book of any kind is required.
kargen Member	Thu Sep 22 22:03:20 murder is correct remember when President Obama came straight from Kenya and took the oath using the Quran?
Habebe Member	Thu Sep 22 22:46:22 Trump swore upon the art of the deal, he refused to pledge allegiance to a lesser author.
murder Member	Fri Sep 23 05:34:00 Trump has never even read The Art of the Deal.
Rugian Member	Fri Sep 23 06:20:29 kargen Member Thu Sep 22 22:03:20 "murder is correct remember when President Obama came straight from Kenya and took the oath using the Quran?" He also went a bit over a top with that kenti kufi he wore at the inauguration. And people still believe this motherfucker was born in Hawaii. lmao
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