Utopia Talk / Politics / Edward Snowden: Russian Asset

murder Member	Mon Sep 26 12:43:04 The Associated Press @AP President Vladimir Putin has granted Russian citizenship to former U.S. security contractor Edward Snowden. Snowden has been living in Russia since 2013 to escape prosecution in the U.S. after leaking classified documents. http://twitter.com/AP/status/1574435381344440321
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 12:43:52 Next stop ... Ukraine.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Mon Sep 26 12:43:57 lol
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 12:44:42 Yes, that would be funny. :o)
Sam Adams Member	Mon Sep 26 12:45:51 Hang em both.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Mon Sep 26 12:46:05 nah,you and the other nazi lovers losing your shit is the funny part! ;)
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 12:49:06 Murder calls everyone a Russian asset though. It's a term that has lost all meaning, its what happens when you cry shitwolf.
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 12:49:48 I'm sure now that Snowden is a proud Russian citizen, he will spend all his time criticizing the dangerous and unjust policies of his chosen home. ;o)
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 12:51:37 "It's a term that has lost all meaning, its what happens when you cry shitwolf." Only Habebe would stray into a thread about Snowden becoming a ... *checks notes* ... Russian citizen, and try to discredit the accusation that Snowden was/is a Russian asset.
LazyCommunist Member	Mon Sep 26 12:54:48 He did a good job for us and now he gets his reward, that's only fair http://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1492223626585808903
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 13:04:03 Here are Snowden's tweets ... http://twitter.com/Snowden/with_replies In case anyone wants to know what he does for a living.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Mon Sep 26 13:10:25 lol
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 13:29:21 " I'm sure now that Snowden is a proud Russian citizen, he will spend all his time criticizing the dangerous and unjust policies of his chosen home. ;o)" So migrants with signed disclosure forms and pamphlets you think didn't choose their destination. But a guy who had a layover flight and was forcibly barred to go to his destination with threat of jail chooses his location he was stuck in did choose his home? How does that make sense? "Only Habebe would stray into a thread about Snowden becoming a ... *checks notes* ... Russian citizen, and try to discredit the accusation that Snowden was/is a Russian asset." Again, you literally call everyone including like 25% of US politicians Russian assets.
McKobb Member	Mon Sep 26 13:50:06 He's too frightened to free himself. He chose his prison.
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 13:55:17 A POTUS pardon could fix that.
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 14:03:04 "A POTUS pardon could fix that." A bullet to the dome could fix that. Fortunately he's no longer a US citizen so ...
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 14:04:00 Львiв Tyler @LvivTyler Edward Snowden: an American patriot http://twitter.com/LvivTyler/status/1574433337019895808
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 14:28:22 Murder, Do you find his leaking od the feds acting illegally wrong?
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 15:28:16 He didn't just reveal government surveillance, which is not illegal. That is why no one ever gets prosecuted for it unless they do it for their own benefit. National security is not a crime. He stole a shit ton of classified information ... just like Donald Trump. He acted illegally.
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 15:39:39 Much of the classified documents were classified because they were breaking the law. It even lead to acts of congress to tighten laws, which are still probably broken daily.
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 15:48:48 Clearly the NSA has broken way more and worse laws thsn Snowden did. That goes unpunished. Russia supports him as a political ploy because his leak makes the US/west look bad. Continuing to persecute him makes them look worse. Assange too.
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 16:33:07 "Much of the classified documents were classified because they were breaking the law." It doesn't matter. They weren't his to take. "It even lead to acts of congress to tighten laws, which are still probably broken daily." Of course they are. National security is the federal governments reason to exist. "Clearly the NSA has broken way more and worse laws thsn Snowden did. That goes unpunished." Of course it goes unpunished. National security is not a crime.
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 16:35:57 "It doesn't matter. They weren't his to take." We will never know, he is forbidden a free trial. I would argue, they were his to take as a whistle blower. "Of course it goes unpunished. National security is not a crime." When it goes against the Supreme law of the land, it is a crime.
murder Member	Mon Sep 26 16:39:42 "We will never know, he is forbidden a free trial." He denied himself a free trial because he is a Russian asset and had no intentions of staying in a country he hates. "I would argue, they were his to take as a whistle blower." You would be arguing nonsense. You don't get to steal just because you decide that you are robin hood. "When it goes against the Supreme law of the land, it is a crime." National security IS the supreme law of the land. This land and every other land.
Habebe Member	Mon Sep 26 16:48:40 "He denied himself a free trial because he is a Russian asset and had no intentions of staying in a country he hates." His charges forbid a free trial. "National security IS the supreme law of the land. This land and every other land." This is the guy calling others fascist. Between geography and a well armed populace, no invading force exists that could hold US territory.
Forwyn Member	Mon Sep 26 17:33:07 James Clapper is still a free man. Fuck 'em. Good for Ed.
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