Utopia Talk / Politics / Oh God no... (Dems just won 2024)

Rugian Member	Thu Nov 10 17:55:03 Fuck. Mods, please delete OP and replace with: “NewsCorp, which is Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the no longer great New York Post (bring back Col!), is all in for Governor Ron DeSanctimonious, an average REPUBLICAN Governor with great Public Relations, who didn’t have to close up his State, but did, unlike other Republican Governors, whose overall numbers for a Republican, were just average — middle of the pack — including COVID, and who has the advantage of SUNSHINE, where people from badly run States up North would go no matter who the Governor was, just like I did! Ron came to me in desperate shape in 2017 — he was politically dead, losing in a landslide to a very good Agriculture Commissioner, Adam Putnam, who was loaded up with cash and great poll numbers. Ron had low approval, bad polls, and no money, but he said that if I would Endorse him, he could win. I didn’t know Adam so I said, ‘Let’s give it a shot, Ron.’ When I Endorsed him, it was as though, to use a bad term, a nuclear weapon went off. Years later, they were the exact words that Adam Putnam used in describing Ron’s Endorsement. He said, ‘I went from having it made, with no competition, to immediately getting absolutely clobbered after your Endorsement.’ I then got Ron by the ‘Star’ of the Democrat Party, Andrew Gillum (who was later revealed to be a ‘Crack Head’), by having two massive Rallies with tens of thousands of people at each one. I also fixed his campaign, which had completely fallen apart. I was all in for Ron, and he beat Gillum, but after the Race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt Election process in Broward County, and Ron was going down ten thousand votes a day, along with now-Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended, just prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win. I stopped his Election from being stolen.” “And now, Ron DeSanctimonious is playing games! The Fake News asks him if he’s going to run if President Trump runs, and he says, “I’m only focused on the Governor’s race, I’m not looking into the future.” Well, in terms of loyalty and class, that’s really not the right answer."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 10 18:08:09 cause Trump knows all about 'loyalty and class'
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 10 19:06:16 some of the replies to his post: http://pbs...X0AEXh_w?format=jpg&name=large "i'm now thinking he is impulsive with no self control" ha! 'now'... complete w/ a standard idiot thinking Trump is playing 37-dimensional chess
williamthebastard Member	Thu Nov 10 21:47:52 Yes, this brewing fight could get really exciting. Looking like it could develop into trump pissing off the average GOP voter with his attacks on DeSantis. If he loses them, man, real convictions suddenly became a real possibility
murder Member	Thu Nov 10 22:41:02 Excellent! :o)
williamthebastard Member	Fri Nov 11 01:03:05 As Nietzsche says, populists become prisoners of their followers. Trump's life in freedom is in the hands of his Maga mob.
habebe Member	Fri Nov 11 01:20:30 Inside Williams mind truly mist be a queer place.
Dukhat Member	Fri Nov 11 04:31:39 I'm not really sure what Rugian's angle is. Does he want Trump to win? Does he want someone other than Trump or Desantis?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 11 11:48:03 i'm sure Rugian wants DeSantis over Trump as any sane person would amongst the barrage of recent posts, fuckhead retweeted this take from a cultist: " Trump masterfully started this fake "fight" with DeSantis to reveal the Deep State RINO scum and their puppets. Brilliant move! Now we see who is truly for the people and who is for the DC Swamp. Trump 2024!!! MAGA " which makes no sense & he also has a weird shot at Youngkin in VA: " Young Kin (now that’s an interesting take. Sounds Chinese, doesn’t it?) in Virginia couldn’t have won without me. I Endorsed him, did a very big Trump Rally for him telephonically, got MAGA to Vote for him - or he couldn’t have come close to winning. But he knows that, and admits it. Besides, having a hard time with the Dems in Virginia - But he’ll get it done! " but maybe that's a masterfully fake fight too
murder Member	Fri Nov 11 13:02:58 "i'm sure Rugian wants DeSantis over Trump as any sane person would" Fortunately I'm not weighed down by sanity. :o)
habebe Member	Fri Nov 11 13:22:01 TW, I think midterm results show a bunch of things, but clearly Trump brings out the base like no other. Much like cowbell, we need more Trump.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 11 13:39:14 no, you don't... at least not one who requires the spotlight entirely on himself & who picks candidates based solely on friendship/loyalty to him i don't think Youngkin even said anything about Trump, i bet Trump attacking him just as he's another R who people think would be a good 2024 candidate... Trump wants only himself discussed (even crazily saying CNN should have a channel w/ only Trump on it) in Ohio, Trump's Senate candidate did way worse than unconnected Gov candidate in GA, a similar but lesser effect in PA, Mastriano was a disaster, & Oz should never have won the primary (& wouldn't have if not for Trump) he's garbage
McKobb Member	Fri Nov 11 13:54:00 he is and has always been garbage but in a Idiocracy world garbage is king
habebe Member	Fri Nov 11 13:55:02 Mastriano wasn't really a Trump pick, he picked him 2 days before primary when it was clear he was ahead. JD Vance got snubbed by McConnel, who repeadetly under funded MAGA candidates. Now oddly enough Republicans actually gained like 6 million votes apparently. But were spaced out to make gains in places like NY. Vance lost funding while Murkowski wad heavily funded to win against a more Trumpian candidate. McConnel clearly wants less Trump in the party even to his own peril.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 11 15:06:40 McConnell is why you got the 3 SC justices, he is sane & intelligent (yet corrupt) Trump is insane & dumb & corrupt... if he actually cared about anyone but himself, he'd just be the clown who keeps the masses entertained (& he could even still just talk about all his grievances & perfect phone calls, which the idiots seem to like hearing about over & over) but he would let adults be & pick the candidates
habebe Member	Fri Nov 11 15:24:21 Yeah, Mitch did well. He didn't do so well these midterms and cases like JD Vance and Murkowski highlight that. Yes they won, but Vance had to get funding from Peter Thiel. Mitch is not a Bushite, But he isnt a populist either. The Republican base loves Trump like a fat kid to cake. I don't know about 2024, but this last midterm needed more Trump and mabey an embrace of early voting or cut out mail votes if we can win independent state legislature case from NC. Republicans should lean into populism and the little guy, social conservatism and economic populism I think is a winning ticket.Fight the corporations (Desantis) and root out the woke and hang it for all to see. Less Ron Josnson and more JD Vance.
murder Member	Fri Nov 11 18:56:34 House GOP leader Elise Stefanik backs Trump 2024 bid as others urge delay House Republican Conference Chairwoman Elise Stefanik on Friday endorsed Donald Trump for a 2024 White House run — becoming the first member of the GOP leadership to publicly take sides in a simmering feud on whether the party should ditch the polarizing ex-president. “I am proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for President in 2024. I fully support him running again,” Stefanik, of New York, said in a statement to The Post. “Under his presidency, America was strong at home and abroad, our economy was red hot, our border was secure, our neighborhoods were safe, our law enforcement was respected, and our enemies feared us.” The upstate congresswoman said the US cannot afford another four years of “failed policies that have led to the inflation crisis, border crisis, and crime crisis” under President Biden, who will turn 80 on Nov. 20. The 76-year-old Trump’s potential 2024 rival, Ron DeSantis, 44, cruised to a double-digit re-election win as Florida governor Tuesday and is being looked at as the future of the party. But even some Trump loyalists and former top staffers have been advising the ex-president to hold off on announcing any bid for 2024 until after the crucial runoff election in Georgia on Dec. 6, which could decide the balance of power in the Senate. Trump has said he will make a major announcement on Tuesday from Mar-a-Lago, and it is expected he will launch his 2024 bid then. “I’ll be advising him that he move his announcement until after the Georgia runoff,” former Trump adviser Jason Miller told the Associated Press. “Georgia needs to be the focus of every Republican in the country right now.” Trump has come under withering criticism for his role in the midterm campaign after Republican expectations for crushing victories in the House fell short and control of the Senate remained up in the air as of Thursday morning. However, Stefanik, who has been a staunch Trump loyalist and who has risen rapidly in the GOP thanks to his support, countered that the 45th president is being unfairly blamed for Republicans not winning more seats during the midterm elections, including losses of Trump-backed candidates in Pennsylvania. “Republican voters determine who is the leader of the Republican Party and it’s very clear President Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. What the media fails to report is that we just won the midterms and flipped the House,” she said. “It is time for Republicans to unite around the most popular Republican in America, who has a proven track record of conservative governance. Poll after poll shows that President Trump would defeat any Republican challenger by massive margins, and would beat Joe Biden if the election were held today. She said Trump has always “put America First, and I look forward to supporting him so we can Save America.” Another Trump run for the White House has divided the GOP, even in his home state of New York. On Thursday, Congressman-elect Mike Lawler said it’s time for the GOP to move past Trump and talked up DeSantis as a potential 2024 candidate for president. http://nyp...feuds-over-ex-presidents-role/
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 11 21:50:19 Stefanik is a female Jim Jordan as demonstrated in some hearings... Mueller maybe, can’t recall for sure which
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