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Dukhat
Member
Wed Nov 23 10:28:19
Giving CherubCow a run for her money in terms of idiotic confirmation bias and repeated logical fallacies.

William owned Nim so hard, he'll have to rape his wife extra hard today to compensate for his hurt ego as Muslim men are akin to doing.
Pillz
Member
Wed Nov 23 10:45:07
Cuckhat is pretty mad right now. Some of his best friends were at that Colorado club
McKobb
Member
Wed Nov 23 10:50:15
goddamned, that's low even for you. I mean you still have to reach up to wipe your ass.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:08:22
Dukhat being delusional again.

Billy claimed the anti child exploitation advocate had a crush on Musk. That's the basis of his entire argument and why her pointing out that Musk has been doing well tackling kiddie porn on Twitter should not be believed.

So let's review the facts.

1. It was widely reported that Twitter had a serious kiddie porn problem. Forbes called it a "nightmare"

2. Eliza Bleu is an anti child porn etc. Advocate, well known and active.WTB thinks Newsweek who she has written for is also in on the scam.

3. Musk has added options to report accounts for such exploitation.

4. Eliza has claimed several major accounts have been taken down already and that she is recruiting more whistleblowers empowered by musk new tools.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:09:17
I thought William was the only openly gay poster since Beast left, but I forgot about Dukhat.
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:22:54

"1. It was widely reported that Twitter had a serious kiddie porn problem. Forbes called it a "nightmare""

Did they? Because as I've stated repeatedly, I used twitter for over a decade and never once ran across kiddie porn.


"2. Eliza Bleu is an anti child porn etc. Advocate, well known and active.WTB thinks Newsweek who she has written for is also in on the scam."

That's an opinion piece.

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:27:10

"You can argue she wasn't trafficked etc. But there is no dispute that she is a public advocate and does so daily. So what is the argument specifically?"

Actually I can dispute it. Advocacy is her job. It's how she pays the bills. It is in her interest to claim that she's doing things about the problem, but the most basic thing that she can do to address the issue of trafficking ... identifying the various individual who trafficked her ... is something that she refuses to do.

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:31:30

Also the idea of fighting child exploitation/trafficking on twitter is slightly absurd. There's an entire whole ass dark web for this and other illegal shit ... and just for Nimatzo ... plenty of alternative currencies to finance it all. ;o)

How the fuck did these supposed hashtags even work? And if it was a thing wouldn't it have done more to combat child exploitation/trafficking if Elon had granted law enforcement the means to track the people tweeting that crap out?

habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:34:25
She is paid to be a social worker AFAIK (maybe Im wrong)

"It is in her interest to claim that she's doing things about the problem"

Is she paid to tweet and spread information? She might be, IDK.

Your complaint that she won't oust her claimed personal attacker seems odd. Lets assume it was her attacker, perhaps she has personal reasons for not going after them.

This doesn't dispute the fact she is out in the media daily raising awareness and advocating for protections.
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:50:00

"Your complaint that she won't oust her claimed personal attacker seems odd. Lets assume it was her attacker, perhaps she has personal reasons for not going after them."

Personal reasons for not going after a string of men that trafficked and/or raped her? I posted a link to an interview she did so you could hear the story for yourself.

http://tou...ing-trafficked-with-eliza-bleu


As far as I can tell the only person trafficking her was herself. Trafficking and grooming seem to be buzzwords to cover up all of the bad choices people make in life these days.

What's more is that she displays a pretty obvious streak of seeking fame and absent that working to become fame adjacent. In that interview she openly admits to returning to one of her traffickers/abusers/pimps BECAUSE he was a high profile athlete.

And that's ignoring that parts of her story are questionable.
Hot Dud
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:52:52
Why did nobody tell me?
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:53:41

"She is paid to be a social worker AFAIK (maybe Im wrong)"

Seriously? You think whatever job she has as a social worker (assuming that's even true) pays nearly as well as her media career?
williamthebastard
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:55:47
She's a nail sculptor now turned personal trainer, 2 often related loser jobs
williamthebastard
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:56:52
According to Reddit
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 11:59:12

Also my main objection to all this besides her story seeming like bull for various reasons ... is that the source Nimatzo used to support Elon Musk championing the fight against child exploitation and trafficking, is an Elon Musk fangirl.

williamthebastard
Member
Wed Nov 23 12:02:12
Dont worry, right now, she's probably hammering out the first paragraph of her torrid and sweaty night with a billionaire who sold her to all his friends the next morning and get banned on Twitter
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 12:02:40

This woman may or may not work as a "social worker", but it sure as hell ain't how she pays the bills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCcYP9i2cjM
williamthebastard
Member
Wed Nov 23 12:04:15
^lol holy hell
williamthebastard
Member
Wed Nov 23 12:07:30
thats some child-friendly family values right there
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Nov 23 12:15:34
Honestly Dukhat I did not need more validation that I was on the right side of an issue, but thank you.

habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 12:32:38
So murder/WTB aside from attacking The messenger.

Neither seems to have anything to say about the content (imagine that)

So again, what is your argument against the claims that Musk tools are actually being effective?

Do you think he gave her a horse?Is she lying?

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 12:49:42

"Neither seems to have anything to say about the content"

What content??? As I've said repeatedly, in a decade+ of using twitter I've never encountered child porn, and it seems farfetched that it would be shared on twitter.


"Is she lying?"

Yes, without a doubt. But which specific lie are you referring to?

obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:07:11
Is murder seriously victim blaming?
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Nov 23 14:29:26
"in a decade+ of using twitter I've never encountered child porn"

I have never seen in my entire life seen an eskimo, but I can read about their existence in various sources. This is flat earth level argument bro. Have you seen that the earth is a sphere with your own eyes from space? CHECK MATE!

I may have just turned murder into a flat earther with his own impeccable logical fallacy.

Anyway back in the real world twitter's CP problem has been known and reported for years. You will not find peddlers unless you know what to look for, querying certain code words. I had the misfortune back during the days of Direct connection file sharing to stumble upon one such code word used back then when I downloaded an entire folder of videos from someone, with one named "r@ygold" AKA Raygold AKA Richard Goldberg. A convicted pedophile and child pornographer. :(

Put raygold into google and the first page is that guys wikipage.


obaminated
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:33:13
Tbf the earth isn't a sphere.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:35:36
http://nyp...sing-to-remove-child-porn/amp/

So apparently twittet has had legal issues going back long before Musk about this.

Murder, I presume you are not looking for kiddie porn, which is why we havn't first hand seen it. But it dorsnt mean these things do not exist on the platform.

"Yes, without a doubt. But which specific lie are you referring to?"

Yes, everyone lies. You choose to beleive NPR's story on pure faith even after all other media outlets said it lacked any evidence.

But here Im asking are you claiming that these efforts of Musk that she is claiming are helping are not helping?
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:42:21

Just dropping this here for no reason ...

----------------

Eliza @elizableu

Survivor of human trafficking explains why she’s voting for @realDonaldTrump Please Share!

----------------

I won't post the link to the tweet because I refuse to drive traffic to twitter anymore, but she posted a video explaining why she had decided to vote for Trump ... but lest you jump to any conclusions that she's some sort of crazy right-winger, she let everyone know how much she had supported Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard in the Democratic primary.

She says a constitutional conservative libertarian.

And btw her dad is a Republican politician in Illinois.

lol :o)

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:43:17

"Is murder seriously victim blaming?"

Victim of what? Poor life choices? Attention whoring?

habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:43:31
http://end...curb-sexual-exploitation-site/


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Twitter Has a History of Failing to Curb Sexual Exploitation on Its Platform
By: NCOSE
January 1, 2018



Twitter is responsible for doing its part to curb sexual exploitation, yet the company has by default shifted responsibility to report sexually graphic tweets or accounts onto the individual user. Of course, the copious amount of pornographic and prostitution-centric material on Twitter is overwhelming and beyond any users’ ability to avoid.

Whether an individual is “followed” on Twitter by a pornographic account, or sees pornographic images in “trending” topics, it is virtually impossible for a regular Twitter user to avoid sexually explicit content.

It’s time to #CleanUpTwitter.
Twitter’s lackadaisical approach to exploitive and explicit content has drawn attention in the past. For example, U.S. Congressman Chris Smith has urged that Twitter be investigated for its potential role in the sexual exploitation of women. Twitter has also raised the ire of government officials in Korea who formed a special task force against online distribution of pornography. They were especially concerned about a police investigation which caught 117 people distributing explicit sexual content via Twitter―33 of the distributors were elementary school children!


Included below is a list of news articles providing concrete illustrations of how Twitter has consistently failed to address the use of its site as a sexual exploitation marketplace.

“How innocent photos of children have been exploited on Twitter”
November 28, 2016

Discusses the presence of a network of individuals on Twitter who trade innocent images of children (for sexual purposes), as well as child sexual abuse images (i.e. child pornography).

“Upper Chi Man Gets Long Prison Term in Child-Porn Case”
Daily Times News, September 23, 2016

A man was arrested for possessing 147 images and 27 videos of child sexual abuse. He was traced after distributing child sexual abuse images via Twitter.

“From Prostitutes to Politics: Brothel Owner’s Bid Questioned”
The Seattle Times, September 13, 2016

Brothel owner Dennis Hof is reported to tweet pornography to his 20,000 Twitter followers.

“Australia’s Adult Industry Using Twitter for Marketing”
SBS.com, May 31, 2015

Pornography performers who had accounts cancelled on Facebook and Instagram, report that they use Twitter instead. As the article states, “Twitter is the social media tool most used by the adult industry, because it has no filters.”

“‘It’s Easier on Twitter’: Going Deep into Indonesia’s Online Sex Trade”
Channel NewsAsia, May 17, 2016

Reports on the sex trade in Indonesia and Twitter’s role as a platform for advertising prostitution.

“Exclusive: Anonymous Proves Twitter Does Little to Fight Child Pornography & ISIS”
February 2, 2016

Despite multiple reports from Twitter users, a Twitter account linked to child pornography remained up for several hours.

As these articles suggest, Twitter is a bastion of sexually explicit content of immense variety. Only a cursory survey of hashtags reveals copious amounts of pornography, links to pornography websites, links to virtual prostitution (commonly referred to as “cam girls”) websites, and prostitution sites (euphemistically referred to as “escorts”).
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:45:33

"Anyway back in the real world twitter's CP problem has been known and reported for years. You will not find peddlers unless you know what to look for, querying certain code words. I had the misfortune back during the days of Direct connection file sharing to stumble upon one such code word used back then when I downloaded an entire folder of videos from someone, with one named "r@ygold" AKA Raygold AKA Richard Goldberg. A convicted pedophile and child pornographer."

I'm not going to say a word. :o)


murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:47:49

"Murder, I presume you are not looking for kiddie porn, which is why we havn't first hand seen it. But it dorsnt mean these things do not exist on the platform."

There are tons and tons of things that I've never looked for on twitter but stumbled upon anyway. Spambots are a thing. So are assholes that like to use trending hashtags to draw attention to their unrelated garbage.

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:50:46

"Yes, everyone lies. You choose to beleive NPR's story on pure faith even after all other media outlets said it lacked any evidence."

I have no idea wtf story you are talking about.


"But here Im asking are you claiming that these efforts of Musk that she is claiming are helping are not helping?"

I'm saying that to the best of my knowledge there was no problem to fix.

Much like there were no kids being abused in the nonexistent basement of Planet Ping Pong.

habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:56:23
"I have no idea wtf story you are talking about."

Gorsuch refusing to mask causing the fat Hispanic one to stay home during covid. You and I had an entire thread over it.

As for the rest I found an old article (2018) discussing multiple exploitation issues.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 14:56:56
Atleast enough of an issue for them to have multiple legal issues over.
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 15:02:46

"Gorsuch refusing to mask causing the fat Hispanic one to stay home during covid. You and I had an entire thread over it."

Did we?


"As for the rest I found an old article (2018) discussing multiple exploitation issues."

That seems to be moving the goalpost a ton.

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 15:04:48

For people that are really slow and haven't caught on ... "Elon Musk champion of exploited children" is a PR campaign meant to shift the narrative from "Elon Musk is failing badly at Twitter".



Pillz
Member
Wed Nov 23 15:08:25
^ murder said, having just read it on twitter
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 15:23:12

I didn't read shit on twitter.

murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 15:23:34

Obvious things are obvious.
williamthebastard
Member
Wed Nov 23 16:50:13
But when will this champion of victims of sexual abuse deal with longstanding claims of rampant sexual harrassment at Tesla, "a workplace rife with sexual harassment and a culture of indifference or hostility to their concerns and complaints"?

It seems he prefers to fire them.

"It hasn’t been a great year for women at SpaceX. In December, former SpaceX engineer Ashley Kosak published an essay meticulously detailing alleged sexual harassment at the company. That was followed in June by a group of SpaceX employees releasing a statement saying Musk’s frattish behavior was “a frequent source of distraction and embarrassment” and asking Musk to stop being, well, a creep. SpaceX investigated their complaints for 24 hours, and then announced that SpaceX had “terminated a number of employees involved."


https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/tesla-sexual-harassment-lawsuit-investigation-elon-musk-1234590697/
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 17:10:55
Murder, "That seems to be moving the goalpost a ton."

Wtf are you talking about? The goal post here is that you said you didnt beleive kiddie porn/child exploitation wasna thing on Twitter. I've supplied numerous cases and lawsuits over just that, eveidence that IT IS ON TWITTER and HAS BEEN.

This is the goal post.

Who's whataboutism is a sure fire example that even he thinks he was wrong.
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 18:12:49

"Exploitation issues" is not restricted to child porn or child trafficking or child anything. A lot of things can be included under that description.

habebe
Member
Wed Nov 23 20:23:06
Ok, yes, I summarized. But if you read the link I copied and pasted it is littered with child porn images and child based sexual exploitation etc.

As well as the lawsuits and the Forbes article.
murder
Member
Wed Nov 23 21:10:00

Is this twitter?

http://www...al-report/fintech-crypto-abuse

Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Nov 24 00:32:13
This isn’t about cp or twitter, it’s about her being a Trump supporter. I suspected as much when WTB called her a psychotic whore.
murder
Member
Thu Nov 24 11:51:00

I don't think anyone knew that until I stumbled upon it ... since I don't think that anyone had ever heard of this "well known" anti-trafficking whatever the hell she is until the other day.

obaminated
Member
Thu Nov 24 18:45:24
Has cuckhat ever be correct when he says someone else has embarrassed themselves?

This is a guy who claims to be a billionaire and have regular 3 somes with super models.

But he thinks other people are embarrassing themselves when they articulate their position and all he does in response is reply with personal insults he thinks bite deep but they are coming from him. It's hard to be insulted by someone you dismiss and don't take seriously.

Exit question - what's worse, to be hated or to be dismissed? I vote dismissed because you can't even illicit an emotional response from the person you want to insult/harm.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 24 19:35:08
"since I don't think that anyone had ever heard of this "well known" anti-trafficking whatever the hell she is until the other day."

Ive known of her as a public figure for a while now.
Nimatso
Member
Fri Nov 25 06:11:21
He's my hero! He, too!
http://pbs...AEhAUn?format=jpg&name=900x900
Where's my LSD?
nhill
Member
Tue Nov 29 15:20:07
This and the previous thread are hilarious. Because murder, Seb, et al. have no evidence, and Nimatzo has evidence, they attack the originator of said evidence. XD

People rarely use Ad Hominem correctly on this forum, but this is a real case of people attacking the source of the information rather than the information itself, in an effort to discredit the information.

Two threads filled with a fallacy. You should seriously be ashamed of yourself. Nimatzo could have done something productive with his time rather than read that drivel.

I don't have any hopes for the others' productivity... murder just looks for free handouts from people superior to him, Seb can't come down from the over-inflated clouds in his head, and Dukhat hat really needs no explanation, everyone here agrees he's bottom of the barrel.

Shame on you, murder and Seb.
murder
Member
Tue Nov 29 16:44:27

I have no evidence of stuff not occurring?

Seb
Member
Tue Nov 29 16:49:35
Nhill:

Why are you dragging me into this troll?


Seb
Member
Tue Nov 29 16:50:06
Probably showing the same attention to detail he has always shown. I.e. none at all.
Seb
Member
Tue Nov 29 16:57:14
Literally the sum total of my posts on the whole "Is Elon tackling child porn like the lady says":


"It is welcome that Twitter is focusing on this issue."


Nhill - "shame on seb ".

Jesus, I guess nhill thinks cracking down on child porn is shameful then?
nhill
Member
Wed Nov 30 06:02:37
Sorry I probably mixed you up with wtb.
murder
Member
Wed Nov 30 07:38:26

Are you new here? You're supposed to double down.



nhill
Member
Wed Nov 30 08:28:07
I mean, STFU SEB you child molesting bastard. I can infer from your tone that you tacitly endorsed the fallacious behavior. Asshole!

Better? ;)
murder
Member
Wed Nov 30 09:07:17

That's how we do it here.

nhill
Member
Wed Nov 30 11:20:44
I'm fitting in woohoo!

Now fuck off! :D
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