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obaminated
Member
Thu Nov 24 14:32:55
You guys tend to die more often those of us who didn't jump at the chance to be lab rats for an untested and unproven vaccine. Rip.

http://www...vaccinated-Americans-time.html
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 24 14:52:03
and your side spreading the headline wildly (to deliberately misrepresent it), w/o reading the reasons

"
Experts caution this is always expected because such a large majority of the population has received at least the standard two-dose regimen.

Those more likely to die from Covid, for example the elderly and immunosuppressed, are also more likely to be vaccinated, further skewing the ratio. 

But it is also true that as Covid has mutated, the vaccines have become less effective — with regular boosters required to top-up immunity.
"
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 24 15:11:55
So let's say, healthy people age 21-50 or whatever, how are they fairing?

I took one shot, didn't get anymore.

Id say relatively healthy, but damn did I get fat, I gained way more wieght than I realized moving south.

I need my Dr. To prescribe some adderall again.
murder
Member
Thu Nov 24 16:02:34

What a fucking headline.

Dukhat
Member
Thu Nov 24 17:29:13
“ It’s still true that vaccinated groups are at a lower risk of dying from a covid-19 infection than the unvaccinated when the data is adjusted for age.”

Fucking mexican tardnado still defending his idiot positions after it killed grandma.

What a pathetic cuck.
obaminated
Member
Thu Nov 24 18:39:34
I'm sorry that the untested vaccine you pumped into your body did either nothing or had specific negative effects to those dumb enough to be lab rats for incredibly idiotic and intentionally misleading health "experts".

And yes cuckhat. My 96 year old grandma who had already undergone a quintuple bypass and whose husband of 70ish years dying a year earlier clearly would've lived another decade if she never got covid.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 24 18:52:30
there is nothing about this story suggesting vaccine useless or harmful (but that IS what the Right is trying to push from it, and you have fallen for it, as they hoped)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Nov 24 18:54:55
...although if it ever does prove harmful, I’ll be happy to call it the Trump vaccine, as his people wanted
obaminated
Member
Thu Nov 24 18:55:05
Generally if you are vaccinated against a virus you don't die from that virus. If you do, then you didn't take a vaccine, you took a placebo.
williamthebastard
Member
Thu Nov 24 18:58:32
"To all my vaxed friends...be afraid"

I always lotion up really well first, wide stance, mirror on the floor and long strokes.
williamthebastard
Member
Thu Nov 24 18:58:41
Oh, I thought you said waxed
Rugian
Member
Thu Nov 24 19:09:39
tumbleweed
the wanderer Thu Nov 24 18:52:30
"there is nothing about this story suggesting vaccine useless or harmful (but that IS what the Right is trying to push from it, and you have fallen for it, as they hoped)"

No, what this story suggests is that Joe "Career Fucking Liar" Biden and the entity of the media, who spent the better part of last year claiming that Covid is a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" and that people who didn't get vaccinated should be stripped of their civil rights and jobs, were 100% full of shit.

Of course, those of us who rely on better news sources than CNN have already known that for a long while.
kargen
Member
Thu Nov 24 19:32:29
"Those more likely to die from Covid, for example the elderly and immunosuppressed, are also more likely to be vaccinated, further skewing the ratio."

Remember last week when an argument similar to this was bullshit? You know when it was pointed out older people tend to be in Republican areas.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 24 19:38:42
Africa has been decimated! Liter a lot there is no one left. Covid has wiped them all out since only 6% is vaccinated.

All that open land.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Nov 24 19:46:47
Fucking idiots at work again.

If 800 people get the vaccine and 2% get sick, then that is 16 people.

If 200 people do not get the vaccine and 7% get sick, that's 14 people.

There will be more sick vaccinated people but the anti-vaxxers are still fucking idiots for significantly increasing their chances of getting sick and seriously so.

But fucking cuckservatives always find "facts" to support the conclusion they already had in mind in the first place.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 24 19:58:07
I'm burning a cross to remember the once great continent of Africa.

France will have to beat the few African children left even harder so they afford their slave owning life styles in France.
kargen
Member
Thu Nov 24 20:29:39
"If 800 people get the vaccine and 2% get sick, then that is 16 people.

If 200 people do not get the vaccine and 7% get sick, that's 14 people."

The CDC has pretty much admitted the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting COVID. Now they always say prevents "serious" infection instead of just infection.

This is about deaths though and COVID symptoms are usually less severe if you have been vaccinated.

My parents both got COVID and my dads was much worse than my moms. His vaccines were up to date and mom hasn't taken any COVID vaccines. Doesn't mean the vaccine didn't work as intended just that sometimes that shit doesn't matter.
obaminated
Member
Thu Nov 24 20:33:13
Lol cuckhat still thinks the vaccine prevents getting the virus.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 24 20:39:52
It does seem to have good evidence that very sickly people are better off with a vaccine.

Relatively healthy young people seem fine without it.
kargen
Member
Thu Nov 24 21:14:28
yeah if you are over 65, obese, diabetic or have other health issues staying up on the vaccine might be a good idea.

I got my first two shots but if we were given what we know to be true now back then I probably would have decided no.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Nov 24 21:21:53
You still get some variant eventually but you are less likely to die and more importantly less likely to have serious symptoms which also include flu-like symptoms like coughing which decreases the chance of people around you to get it,

If you hate vaccines or whatever, then do what you want with your body … as long as it doesn’t risk anyone else’s life. Which is why anti-vax nurses are pieces of shit and why people who keep going out when they have symptoms are also pieces of shit.
Habebe
Member
Thu Nov 24 21:40:41
The issue is that these specific vaccines have seemingly greater side effects than regular vaccines.

So taking them comes with a risk. That should be reasonably weighed.

However I will grant you that it won't. It will parse to two extremes generally over politics instead of data.


The left still thinks its the pro science/data wing of politics however.When, really it's just ruled by partisan hierarchy.
McKobb
Member
Thu Nov 24 22:32:52
i thought you said vexed, nvm
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