Utopia Talk / Politics / shit about Shit & his shit associates#25

tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Dec 29 16:05:38 Trump has posted another: "Whatever happened to Global Warming?" (in response to cold weather in Buffalo) he knows more about science than anybody
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 30 07:45:55 January 6 Committee Retreats from Its Trump Subpoena Stunt By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY December 29, 2022 1:49 PM As Caroline reports, the January 6 Committee has withdrawn the subpoena it issued to former President Donald Trump in mid-October (i.e., when it was trying to help Democrats make Trump the centerpiece of their midterm-election campaign). The committee well knew it was never going to get Trump’s testimony, for many good reasons that have nothing to do with whether he had relevant testimony to provide. The issuance of the subpoena was not just a pointless stunt, it was counter-constitutional and norm-breaking. I explained this at the time: Hoping to end with a bang, the committee voted to do what the judges presiding over January 6 cases would not permit charged defendants to do: subpoena Trump for testimony. At this point, it is theater. It is a step the committee could’ve taken months ago, but didn’t, because members knew that it would bog them down in controversy and litigation. The Justice Department has always taken the position that presidents have absolute immunity from congressional subpoenas because the Framers did not want the executive to be subservient to the legislature. Trump is no longer president, but a congressional committee’s subpoena to a former president to grill him over his actions as president would bludgeon the separation of powers, putting every sitting president on notice that the legislature could interrogate him later for the actions he takes now — exactly what the Framers wanted to avoid. This specter was always bound to make any Trump subpoena the subject of a lengthy court fight. Knowing that such a subpoena would be seen by many not as Trump’s comeuppance but as a subversion of the Constitution’s structure, the committee waited to issue it until, as a practical matter, there was no time left to debate its enforcement. Congress is not in session again until after Election Day, after which there will be a few lame-duck days of mischief before — assuming they win back the House as expected — Republicans retake the chamber and immediately disband the committee. Symbolic though it may be, the issuance of the subpoena still raises a number of obvious questions. Since committee members announced with great fanfare at the start of their proceedings that Trump was the instigator of the riot — and spent all afternoon Thursday claiming that they’d already proven their case against him — why is his testimony even necessary at this point? If Trump is suddenly an essential witness — after the committee let over a year go by without trying to subpoena him — how can the committee issue the final report it has been promising without interviewing him, as it surely won’t get the chance to do? And finally, since it is well known that Trump is the subject of an active criminal investigation in which a federal court found probable cause to believe that three felonies had been committed and issued a warrant to search his residence — which search led to the seizure of additional incriminating evidence — why would the January 6 committee think he’d agree to testify when anything he says can be used against him in that case? If none of this makes sense to you, don’t worry — it’s not supposed to. The subpoena gambit was the last act of a months-long political theater. Of course, like many things the committee did, its issuing and then retreating from the subpoena helps Trump. He is now publicly claiming that the committee’s withdrawal of the subpoena is an implicit acknowledgement of his blamelessness in the events surrounding the Capitol riot. Caroline notes the statement the former president published on his social-media platform: Was just advised that the Unselect Committee of political Thugs has withdrawn the Subpoena of me concerning the January 6th Protest of the CROOKED 2020 Presidential Election. They probably did so because they knew I did nothing wrong, or they were about to lose in Court. Perhaps the FBI’s involvement in RIGGING the Election played into their decision. In any event, the Subpoena is DEAD! This is nonsense, of course. In every criminal case, the main suspect has relevant information that would shed light on the allegations. But the prosecutor and grand jury virtually never subpoena the main suspect. In nearly 20 years as a prosecutor, I can think of a handful of times when a suspect requested to testify before the grand jury (believing he had a good defense and could talk the panel out of indicting him). But grand juries and professional investigators do not ignore the Fifth Amendment and try to coerce such testimony. Everybody knows that to refrain from issuing a subpoena to a suspect, or to withdraw one improvidently issued, is not in any way an admission that there is no case against the suspect. (Although Trump may have a point that the committee would have lost in court had it seriously tried to compel Trump’s testimony.) To frown upon subpoenaing a suspect is an expression of our constitutional culture: A person is not required to testify against himself, and the government is obliged to respect that right, not undermine it. In my experience, a very high percentage of those suspects who were not subpoenaed were indicted, and a very high percentage of those indicted were convicted. Nevertheless, Trump wins this media cycle because of the foolishly issued subpoena. Personally, I doubt this matters much. But, since committee members occasionally exhibited a Trump-like obsession with press coverage, it probably matters to them. http://www...from-its-trump-subpoena-stunt/
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Fri Dec 30 09:46:48 "January 6 Committee Retreats from Its Trump Subpoena" Dude the commitee had like 3 days left and already referred trump on criminal charges
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 30 11:12:13 Was the committee not aware that it was always going to have a clock on enforcing the subpoena? Even back when they issued it, we were talking about a red wave in November. So you disagree with the objections to the subpoena on constitutional and legal grounds?
murder Member	Fri Dec 30 11:26:56 There is no legitimate constitutional objection. Every single person subpoenaed by Congress by definition has reason to not want to testify ... otherwise there would have been no need for a subpoena.
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 30 11:36:14 Everyone who is subpoenaed by Congress is under criminal investigation? That's news to me.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 30 11:47:42 "Was the committee not aware that it was always going to have a clock on enforcing the subpoena? " they gave the subpoena so fuckhead liar couldn't claim they didn't try to get his testimony they withdrew as the committee over, i don't know if they could even fight the court fight... who would even be representing their side? (although i do approve of article's "This is nonsense, of course" conclusion about Trump's idiotic claim)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 30 12:01:22 odd statement by fuckhead about his tax returns: http://sta.../original/0db685f2bd7b57bf.jpg (not sure where to find copy/paste text as he turned his website into just fundraising)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 30 12:04:13 this is the not too flattering Forbes article he's quoting: http://www...ttle-in-taxes/?sh=10d2620a5ae8 (about "How could someone have so much money yet declare so little income?") there's definitely going to be heaps of improper tax write-offs
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 30 13:14:29 so it seems Trump was telling multiple lies on this debate question: http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1608885505529380866 i am shocked he would do such a thing
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 30 14:01:50 to ramp up their offensiveness, Don Jr now hawking Bibles: http://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1608854540258009100
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 30 14:03:53 it doesn't have Trump's name or face on it so Jr probably just a paid spokesperson for some other 3rd party grifters looking to separate the cult from their money
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 01 01:44:12 typical holiday message from the absurdity: " HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of the Radical Left Democrats, Marxist Lunatics, China loving Coco Chow and her Obedient Husband, Mitch, and Clueless RINOS, who are working so hard to DESTROY our once great Country. More importantly, HAPPY NEW YEAR to the Incredible, Brave, and Strong American Patriots who Built, Love, and Cherish America. The REAL leaders of our Country will always remain FAITHFUL and LOYAL to you. The USA will be back, Bigger & Better & Stronger than ever before. GOD BLESS YOU ALL! "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 01 02:13:21 Trump speaking to festive party-goers... http://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1609406998730182656 he has 1 setting
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 04 12:22:25 " Some really good conversations took place last night, and it’s now time for all of our GREAT Republican House Members to VOTE FOR KEVIN, CLOSE THE DEAL, TAKE THE VICTORY, & WATCH CRAZY NANCY PELOSI FLY BACK HOME TO A VERY BROKEN CALIFORNIA,THE ONLY SPEAKER IN U.S. HISTORY TO HAVE LOST THE “HOUSE” TWICE! REPUBLICANS, DO NOT TURN A GREAT TRIUMPH INTO A GIANT & EMBARRASSING DEFEAT. IT’S TIME TO CELEBRATE, YOU DESERVE IT. Kevin McCarthy will do a good job, and maybe even a GREAT JOB - JUST WATCH! " ~ Trump putting his weight behind McCarthy on the next vote, McCarthy actually went down 1 vote so another loss for Trump to pretend didn't happen
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 04 12:24:52 " The single WORST person the Republicans could have as Speaker would be Fred Upton, almost worse than a Democrat. Remember, he QUIT when I wouldn’t endorse him. STONE COLD LOSER! " ~ presumably a ridiculously childish response to Upton speaking against Trump on the news or something
murder Member	Wed Jan 04 14:11:37 I can't believe that not one single Democrat has had the nuts to troll Trump by nominating him for Speaker just to watch him get zero votes from Republicans.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 05 01:10:12 so followin up on “so another loss for Trump to pretend didn't happen”: " I actually think that a big Republican VICTORY today, after going through numerous Roll Calls that failed to produce a Speaker of the House, has made the position & process of getting to be Speaker BIGGER & MORE IMPORTANT than if it were done in the more traditional way, much like me again becoming President after having won big in 2016, gotten many Millions of MORE VOTES in 2020 but “supposedly” not winning (BIG LIE!), & then winning again in 2024. It will be BIGGER than the traditional way! " do I know that fuckhead or what
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 05 21:17:30 Matt Schlapp Is being accused of groping the crotch of a male Herschel Walker staffer... and no need to feel bad for his wife as she’s also an awful person (Mercedes Schlapp)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 05 21:44:46 "I will not suffer this harlot, I will not be taught vows & loyalty, commitment from a whore!" - Ali Alexander about Marjorie Taylor Greene http://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1611025349030318082 & says he will reveal evidence she committed a crime (possibly related to some "drunken night") unfortunately as a Trumper, his word is meaningless... though infighting always nice
murder Member	Thu Jan 05 22:57:36 Is Ali Alexander out of the closet yet, or no?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 05 23:05:39 i don't think so... its possibly just pipsqueakishness
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 06 18:09:51 " I see that American coward Cryin’ Adam Kinzinger has taken a high paying political job at VERY LOW RATINGS, FAKE NEWS, CNN. He was supposedly on tonight, all propped up and ready to go! I hear he was NOT crying. But a question - How does he negotiate and get such a job when he is working on the January 6th Unselect Committee. Wouldn’t this be a TREMENDOUS, and perhaps ILLEGAL, CONFLICT OF INTEREST? It just never ends with these losers! " ~ fucking idiot... yeah, 'perhaps illegal'... this total fucking moron was head of the executive branch... sooooo fucking ridiculous.... also the committee over & he's not even in congress so goddamn stupid
Cherub Cow Member	Sat Jan 07 01:13:22 Kinzinger is definitely so goddamn stupid! Lol I can’t imagine voting for his party of Bolsheviks, pedophiles, and totalitarians. And on top of everything, just at a visceral level he’s a total little bitch who probably squat pees in a corner of the house while his handlers are gone. Lol Anyways, I hope he at least celebrates Ashli Babbitt Memorial Day, since this day couldn’t even push significance for two years without it settling on the recognition that the only life lost today was a patriot killed by the propagandized International Bolshevik totalitarians. Totalitarian cultist loser ⬇️⬇️⬇️
murder Member	Sat Jan 07 08:14:40 We all celebrate Ashli Babbitt catching a bullet. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of easily manipulated morons."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 07 18:49:08 Kevin McCarthy thanked Trump after winning Speaker, so fuckhead posted: "Thank you Kevin. It was my great honor!" w/ the video of Kevin doing so which would be a normal place to stop... but nope, fuckhead also posted: " The Fake News Media was, believe it or not, very gracious in their reporting that I greatly helped Kevin McCarthy attain the position of Speaker of the House. Thank you, I did our Country a big favor! " [eye roll] plus posted article: "Kevin McCarthy Thanks Trump after Speakership Win: ‘I Don’t Think Anybody Should Doubt His Influence’" plus posted article: "‘Thank You, President Trump’: McCarthy Credits Ex-Prez for Speakership, Says Trump’s Grip on Republicans Is Firm" plus posted article: "Trump Credited With Calling in to Close Deal for McCarthy" plus posted article: "Sources: Donald Trump Was Instrumental in McCarthy's Victory" plus posted article: "Donald Trump Played Crucial Role in Getting Speaker Kevin McCarthy Across Finish Line" plus posted article: "‘Thank you, President Trump’: Newly elected Speaker McCarthy praises former president for being ‘all in’" plus posted article: "McCarthy thanks Trump after House speaker vote: 'He was with me from the beginning'" plus posted article: "Kevin McCarthy credits Donald Trump for House speaker victory" --------- i daresay he likes being given credit
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 07 19:02:04 in McCarthy's ass-kissing message he claims what Trump is -really- saying is that the party & country have to come together (using the secret decoder ring that is always necessary to interpret Trump, since what Trump -actually- says is never unifying) like this message of today (amongst the praise of himself): " So an out-of-control wild man kills beautiful Ashli Babbitt, a true Patriot, who was the only one killed on January 6th. Her mother goes to protest her death and memory, and they arrest her mother. Something has to be done about these Communists and Marxists that are taking over and destroying our Country. Pray for Ashli, and her wonderful, brave mother! " ~ fuckhead Trump (or CC) here's the police statement on the terrorist's mother's arrest: http://www...bstructing-roadways-obey-order (an arrest exactly as R's would want)
murder Member	Sat Jan 07 19:39:48 The DeSantis wing of the GOP is displeased.
Cherub Cow Member	Sat Jan 07 19:49:36 Kinzinger is definitely so goddamn stupid! Lol I can’t imagine voting for his party of Bolsheviks, pedophiles, and totalitarians. And on top of everything, just at a visceral level he’s a total little bitch who probably squat pees in a corner of the house while his handlers are gone. Lol Anyways, I hope he at least celebrates Ashli Babbitt Memorial Day, since this day couldn’t even push significance for two years without it settling on the recognition that the only life lost today was a patriot killed by the propagandized International Bolshevik totalitarians. Totalitarian cultist loser ⬇️⬇️⬇️
murder Member	Sat Jan 07 20:17:52 Are you glitching?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 07 22:02:06 the whole content of the post seems like a glitch
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 09 17:14:56 Trump's deal w/ the devil at work again some classified docs found at some Biden office it's far fewer docs, & they turned them over as soon as located rather than jerking around the Nat'l Archives then FBI & requiring raided, but won't matter at all to the Fox/fraudosphere
murder Member	Mon Jan 09 18:23:30 It doesn't matter to me either. Impeach the senile old coot! :o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 09 21:23:45 somewhere along the line, i got the impression impeachment crimes have to be committed while in that office (but maybe i'm wrong) though if R's admit it's a big crime, then that's bad for Trump & fine w/ me more likely though it'll just be used to protect criminal Trump... 'how can you possibly charge Trump & not Biden!?!' even though Trump circumstances (as ALWAYS) are much worse
habebe Member	Mon Jan 09 22:51:32 "some classified docs found at some Biden office" How could someone be so irresponsible? "even though Trump circumstances (as ALWAYS) are much worse" How? Biden at the time was an ex vice potus AIUI. With no authority to control classification of documents, so definitely he had stolen top secret documents.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 00:05:59 - Trump had >20x as many docs - plus rather than returning immediately upon discovery, Nat'l Archives had to ask for them & was rejected repeatedly, so had to go to the FBI, still jerked around including lying in response to a subpoena, requiring a search warrant/raid to recover a large quantity of them otherwise he'd still have the bulk of the docs (& undoubtedly still has some) (& no, he didn't declassify them... declassifying has effects... declassifying w/ no indication of doing so makes zero point zero sense) Trump -always- worse
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 01:11:54 hey, fuckhead mcGee is making shit up again as ALWAYS: "The amount was 54 Million Dollars that the Biden Think Tank received from China. That’s a lot of money. They saw the Classified Documents!" "Biden giving China Highly Classified Documents would be a bridge too far. I certainly wouldn’t do that. Not a good situation for our Country to be in!" yep, China saw the docs, totally established & not COMPLETELY MADE UP at all w/ absolutely zero evidence whatsoever
habebe Member	Tue Jan 10 13:16:41 Biden had no more authority to classify documents as you or I. He wasn't potus at the time he stole classified documents. The entire classification process is for the potus and entirely controlled by the potus with authority from article 2 and suppoeted by USC case law, somebody VS the Navy , I think in 1988.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 13:30:12 if Trump HAD declassified WHILE in office, it would be known, it would be marked... & he should've noticed that nothing happened (although there's zero indication he tried to do it by anyone, otherwise they wouldn't use the (stupid) story of the (no-evidence-of-existing & completely ridiculous) standing order all docs he took out of the WH were to be declassified if Obama says he mentally or otherwise declassified the Biden docs are you going to accept it? + the elements of the law require intentionally doing it... no indication Biden knew these were there, whereas Trump has (stupidly) admitted to knowing he had them when he (extremely stupidly) felt compelled to note they weren't on the floor + the rest of the obstruction by Trump not present w/ Biden Trump worse, by lots
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 13:50:51 " Allen Weisselberg, former President Donald Trump’s long-time chief financial officer, was sentenced by a New York judge to five months in jail for his role in a decade-long tax fraud scheme after testifying as the state’s witness against the Trump Organization. Following the court hearing, Weisselberg, 75, is expected to report to Rikers Island, the notorious New York City jail, to begin serving his sentence immediately. He pleaded guilty last August to 15 felonies in a deal with prosecutors. As part of the deal, he was required to testify truthfully at the trial of the Trump Organization, pay $2 million in back taxes, interest and penalties, and waive any right to appeal. ... " http://www...-trump-organization/index.html
murder Member	Tue Jan 10 14:28:19 "Allen Weisselberg, former President Donald Trump’s long-time chief financial officer, was sentenced by a New York judge to five months in jail for his role in a decade-long tax fraud scheme after testifying as the state’s witness against the Trump Organization." The government's witness is literally the only one going to prison ... and this somehow makes sense to someone somewhere.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 16:14:55 he was only a witness to reduce his sentence, so it's some victory in bringing to justice the criminals orbiting the head criminal & Diamond of 'Diamond & Silk' is dead... so one more pawn removed from the board, by different means
Habebe Member	Tue Jan 10 16:46:55 "if Trump HAD declassified WHILE in office, it would be known, it would be marked" Where in the US constitution or a supreme court interpretation does it state this?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 17:36:20 you don't believe there is any process to declassification? that any & all classified docs that currently exist may or may not be classified because any president since their creation may or may not have secretly declassified them without any indication whatsoever? but yes, when he carelessly blurted out classified info he was protected, as the public blurting itself would (stupidly) be deemed him declassifying (even though it obviously was never intentional)... but after leaving office that power to be a fucking idiot w/ classified info ceases
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 18:35:55 Trump still trying to get Ruby Freeman & her daughter harmed (2020 GA poll workers): " Ruby, her daughter, and the others who ran back into the counting room, grabbing the cases from under the “skirted” table, and then back to their counting machines where they came from prior to hearing “water main break” (which never happened) have got a lot of explaining to do... " a week or so ago he was playing audio clips about them that demonstrated nothing as well (& he's referring to an incident that was THOROUGHLY investigated by his own DOJ, w/ MULTIPLE people including Barr & Donahue explaining to him that he was wrong)
murder Member	Tue Jan 10 18:53:29 "he was only a witness to reduce his sentence, so it's some victory in bringing to justice the criminals orbiting the head criminal" A victory? They reduced his sentence to 100 days ... and they let him refuse to testify against the people he was working for. That is outrageous.
Habebe Member	Tue Jan 10 18:55:11 "you don't believe there is any process to declassification?" Not codified into valid law, no I don't. In short, if the USC grants the authority and the scotus vwrifies this (article 2) the codified process would also have to be in the constitution, otherwise its left up to the sitting potus. The issue is that our current classification process didn't come about until long after the USC was written.This should have been written into the USC perhaps, but it never was and here we are with lesser procedural laws being suggestions.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 19:01:48 a rich bastard is going to Riker's... it's more than usual --------- i don't understand why you're even buying the idea he declassified the shit... it's such an idiotic and obvious lie... he makes stuff up basically ALL the time (like tacking on that China saw the Biden docs based on -nothing-... he can't let a bad story just be the bad story, has to embellish it)
murder Member	Tue Jan 10 19:10:24 "Trump still trying to get Ruby Freeman & her daughter harmed (2020 GA poll workers):" They should sue him. Or hire a hitman.
murder Member	Tue Jan 10 19:14:22 The constitution doesn't say shit about declassifying documents.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 10 19:26:03 "Trump still trying to get Ruby Freeman & her daughter harmed" So shedding light on people who have committed actual or alleged crimes constitutes an act of "harm" now? Interesting position for someone with a 100+ series dedicated to obsessing over the real and imagined (mostly imagined) transgressions of a single man to take. But i guess I shouldn't be surprised by the hypocrisy. Your side has a near-monopply on cancel culture, yet you all throw an autistic bitchfit every time LibsOfTikTok posts something. Transparency is only good for one side of the political spectrum apparently.
murder Member	Tue Jan 10 19:49:00 Elie Mystal @ElieNYC 15 years of tax fraud = 5 months in jail. Being white must be so awesome. ==================== @politicalplayer Allen Weisselberg will do 100 DAYS in jail. He was convicted of 15 felonies, tax fraud, and stole millions of dollars. Kalief Browder spent 3 YEARS on Rikers island awaiting trial for allegedly stealing a backpack. He was never convicted. American justice in Black and white.
habebe Member	Tue Jan 10 20:47:08 " The constitution doesn't say shit about declassifying documents." No, but it is interpreted as such in article 2. However the process should probably be codified. But also, why do we have so many classified docs? A free Republic should not hide so much from its citizens.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 10 21:16:24 "So shedding light on people who have committed actual or alleged crimes constitutes an act of "harm" now? " who is accusing them of crimes? (other than Trump or Rudy)... also Bill Barr as AG, plus the next AG both told Trump he was wrong about what he was claiming (people who actually investigated & the US AG is a pretty high up person to be saying so) & when Trump posted those audio clips recently they didn't even catch fire w/ the fraudosphere so were beyond worthless nonsense... no 'light is being shed'
habebe Member	Tue Jan 10 23:24:14 Eli Mystal looks like Don King in drag.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 11 11:46:56 Trump merging his storylines (on the Biden docs): "Was the Old Crow’s boss, China loving Coco Chow, involved? Just asking?" ...not fucking crazy at all he also put out a video of continuous lies about the 'Twitter Files'
murder Member	Wed Jan 11 14:14:45 Jimmy Failla @jimmyfailla Nassau County GOP is officially calling on George Santos to resign. I’m sorry but this is no way to treat guy who stormed the beach at Normandy to protect our freedoms.
murder Member	Wed Jan 11 14:36:12 Jimmy Failla @jimmyfailla He (George Santos) is vowing to fight until the end like he did at the Alamo.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 11 14:54:02 " I’ll NEVER give up my gas stove. If the maniacs in the White House come for my stove, they can pry it from my cold dead hands. COME AND TAKE IT!! " ~ 'Dr' Ronny Jackson... member of congress... this guy was the doctor for a real president... then met Trump & has gone completely insane Trump Derangement Syndrome
Habebe Member	Wed Jan 11 20:22:48 It absurd to ban new gas stoves.
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 11 21:01:45 I can't wait for CA to have blackouts six months out of the years instead of just three lol Fucking deranged lunatics, and TW is worried about hyperbolic reactionaries on Twitter
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 11 21:03:20 Yeah, I'm passed about this proposed ban too. But because Republicans are criticizing it, tw automatically supports it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 11 21:18:47 I expressed no opinion on stoves I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize stoves, and I’m certain “they can pry [my stove] from my cold dead hands” is a fucking insane reaction and just one of the string of bizarre ass shit that guy posts, when he presumably was once a respected doctor and rear admiral
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 11 22:16:27 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize alcohol" tw 1920 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize gold" tw 1930 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize guns" tw 1940 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize weed" tw 1950 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize LSD" tw 1960 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize cocaine" tw 1970 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize homemade mixtapes" tw 1980 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize folding stocks" tw 1990 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize Liberty Dollars" tw 2000 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize bump stocks" tw 2010 "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize pistol braces" tw 2020" "I’m certain gov’t goons won’t come to anyone’s door to seize stoves" tw 2023
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 00:17:38 would you like to place a bet? did they come & seize lawn darts? the entire hysteria is over the commissioner of Consumer Product Safety Commission saying: " “This is a hidden hazard,” Richard Trumka Jr., an agency commissioner, said in an interview. “Any option is on the table. Products that can’t be made safe can be banned.”  " that's the entire source of the hysteria & even if there was a ban, no reason to think it would apply to pre-existing stoves (& Ronny Jackson remains nuts)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 00:20:50 " Joe Biden is going after your gas stoves. He is out-of-touch with hardworking Americans. " ~ Elise Stefanik (R leadership, piece of shit) Biden specifically put out that he does NOT support the idea many hours before that tweet... doesn't matter just fucking lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie, keep the constituents in constant outrage
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 00:26:12 more Ronny Jackson " 187 MILLION Americans have gas stoves in their homes, and it will cost a FORTUNE to replace them. There's no "science" behind this. It's just another excuse Biden is trying to use to put MORE GOVERNMENT in your lives. HANDS OFF OUR STOVES!! http://SaveTheStoves.com " at idiotic website: " Our Stoves Are At Risk! Biden and Democrats want to BAN gas stoves in EVERY home! INCLUDING YOURS! We can't let the maniacs in the White House get away with this! Add your name now to the official petition to SAVE OUR STOVES!! " (which undoubtedly puts you on a mailing list to request donations or maybe you'll have to donate to get on that 'official petition'... over something that's not even happening) the evidence Biden is after your stoves is what?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 00:31:11 idiotic website also starting off with graphic "STOP BIDEN FROM BANNING OUR STOVES", w/ lovely photo of gas burners...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 00:50:19 even the one guy who kicked this all off released a statement including "...to be clear, I am not looking to ban gas stoves and the CPSC has no proceedint to do so" but gas-stove-gate & the false claims will continue til they find some new total bullshit to outrage people over M&Ms were back in the news... maybe time for Dr Seuss again, or hamburgers...
murder Member	Thu Jan 12 10:41:14 "I’m certain “they can pry [my stove] from my cold dead hands” is a fucking insane reaction" But not a deal breaker.
murder Member	Thu Jan 12 10:47:10 Why would they even bother banning gas stoves when they can simply ban the sale of gas or tax it out of existence?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 11:40:33 " You’ll have to pry it from my COLD DEAD HANDS! #FoodieRevolt [video of gas stove] " ~ Matt Gaetz (a full day after completely clear it was not happening) and again the 'cold dead hands'...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 14:57:44 " The Special “Prosecutor” assigned to the “get Trump case,” Jack Smith(?), is a Trump Hating THUG whose wife is a serial and open Trump Hater, whose friends & other family members are even worse, and as a prosecutor in Europe, according to Ric Grenell, put a high government official in prison because he was a Trump positive person. Smith is known as “an unfair Savage,” & is best friends with the craziest Trump haters, including Lisa Monaco who runs “Injustice.” The Boxes Scam is a HOAX... " i'm sure Biden will post the same thing (& "Rick" is how you spell "Rick", a tricky name to be sure... and Richard (Rick) Grenell is a Trump loyalist shitbag)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 12 15:01:42 continued idiocy: " Fire a man who may very well turn out to be a criminal, Jack Smith. His conflicts, unfairness, and mental state of derangement make him totally unfit for the job of “getting Trump." Go after Biden and the Biden Crime Family instead. Like Bill Barr, the U.S. Attorneys in Delaware and Illinois are weak, ineffective, and afraid to do what must be done. The Election was RIGGED, and we are now losing our Country. We can’t let that happen. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! " and some more idiocy: " Merrick Garland has to immediately end Special Counsel investigation into anything related to me because I did everything right, and appoint a Special Counsel to investigate Joe Biden who hates Biden as much as Jack Smith hates me. " Jack Smith: a deranged corrupt criminal who hates Trump more than anyone who ever lived... backed up w/ solid evidence i'm sure
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 13 11:31:05 "If only we had a president who cared more about what was good for the country and less about how to protect his family’s corrupt business interests." ~ Laura Ingraham (a Trump fan talking about Biden)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 13 11:38:17 Daily Dose of Idiocy: "Importantly, I have single-handedly shown the American Public how Crooked and Corrupt our Government is. NOW WE CAN FIX IT!" "When are the intelligence Officers That signed the “Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation” letter going to JAIL?" ('retweet') "Our Country is SICK inside, very much like a person dying of Cancer. The Crooked FBI, the so-called Department of “Justice,” and “Intelligence,” all parts of the Democrat Party and System, is the Cancer. These Weaponized Thugs and Tyrants must be dealt with, or our once great and beautiful Country will die!!!" ('retweet' of himself) "Schiff is a criminal!"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 13 14:27:33 " Joe Biden's inflation caused 1/3 of Americans to skip meals or cut portion sizes. Yet Democrats are more worried about banning gas stoves. " ~ Kimberly Guilfoyle (Don Jr's gf, ex-Fox host, wannabe whore) (two days since the ONE guy who started hysteria clarified he's NOT looking to ban gas stoves)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 13 14:34:20 " I was at a bodega this morning when I saw a small boy ask his mother for some candy. As I saw her hand reach for a package of M&Ms, I cried out and left my place in line to stop her. Once I informed her M&Ms had gone woke, she thanked me profusely and opted for a Twix instead. " ~ Nick Adams (self-proclaimed Alpha Male) so many of his posts seem like he must be a comedian... yet many others give impression just an insane(typical) Trump cultist (plus he appears on Fox News, not as a comedian... & his wikipedia has no indication of being a comedian)
murder Member	Fri Jan 13 19:43:52 Nick Adams is a self-parody account. He plays the part of a right winger ... and then subtly exposes how ridiculous they are.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Jan 14 10:53:33 MAGA philosophy explained in its entirety in 8 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yArNhh_ZFfc
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 14 13:46:01 Daily Dose of Idiocy: " What Biden did was wrong, but he was given a reasonable and stable Special Counsel who is sane, inclined not to make waves, friendly with RINOS, and is not known as a flame-throwing lunatic or a Biden hater. What I did was RIGHT, Secured documents in a secured place, lock on the doors, guards and Secret Service all around, security cameras working. Mar-a-Lago is essentially an armed fort, and was built that way in the 1920’s, with High Walls & structure to serve as the Southern W.H. I was President of the U.S. and covered and protected by the Presidential Records Act, which is not criminal and allows and encourages you to talk to the NARA, which we were, very nicely, until the FBI, who it is now learned has been after me for years without pause or question, RAIDED Mar-a-Lago, a stupid and probably Illegal thing to do. As President, I have the right to declassify documents, Biden did not. Special "Prosecutor" Jack Smith, however, is a Trump Hating political Thug. The Boxes Hoax Case against me should be dropped immediately. I have done nothing wrong! " " How come the Biden “Prosecutor” is a nice guy, very friendly with Democrats and RINOS alike, close to Christopher Wray, & pretty much liked & known by everybody, while my “Prosecutor” is a Radical Left Trump HATING Lunatic, whose wife & family get a perfect “10” for spewing Trump HATE, & whose “friends” are the most evil, angry, & disgusting Marxists & Communists in & around Government? They are GRILLING innocent people in Grand Juries for hours, all to “get Trump.” These are Sick Thugs! " he's really packing in the crazy
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 14 15:47:04 Tucker is working to bring back smoking: http://twitter.com/cynicalzoomer/status/1614072361363378176
Rugian Member	Sat Jan 14 16:00:52 ^this coming from the party that not only supports marijuana legalization but encourages its use.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 14 18:45:19 is marijuana a leading cause of cancer or other deaths?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 14 18:48:35 Trump retweet: "This is an actual murder!!! Ordered by Nancy Pelosi!!!! What do we have to do to get this charged? [image w/ photo:] Michael Byrd murdered Ashli Babbitt Arrest him now! " a murder AND Pelosi ordered it? wow, i bet there's compelling evidence of that... such a responsible person
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 14 19:01:25 " An 18-year-old Indiana University student was hospitalized after a woman stabbed her multiple times on a bus near the university’s campus, in an attack authorities are calling racially motivated.  The 18-year-old victim, an Asian student at Indiana University, told investigators she was standing and waiting for the exit doors to open on a Bloomington Transit bus when another passenger, 54-year-old Billie Davis, began striking her in the head, Bloomington police said in a release. This photo provided by Bloomington Police Department shows Billie Davis.  Davis stabbed the victim multiple times in the head with a folding knife, reportedly saying it "would be one less person to blow up our country."  " the presumed Trump voter: http://a57...2/1046/e401a1b9-Artboard-1.png
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 16 11:42:58 " The White House just announced that there are no LOGS or information of any kind on visitors to the Wilmington house and flimsy, unlocked, and unsecured, but now very famous, garage. Maybe they are smarter than we think! This is one of seemingly many places where HIGHLY CLASSIFIED documents are stored (in a big pile on the damp floor). Mar-a-Lago is a highly secured facility, with Security Cameras all over the place, and watched over by staff & our great Secret Service. I have INFO on everyone! " ~ psycho "in a big pile on the damp floor" what the fuck is his deal w/ the fucking floor... and i'll guess NO, they were not just lying in a pile on the floor... & i'll guess there is NO indication that was the case (same as 'flimsy', 'unlocked')
murder Member	Mon Jan 16 16:37:24 "I have INFO on everyone!" No kidding??? :o)
murder Member	Mon Jan 16 16:37:44 "I have INFO on everyone!" No kidding??? :o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 17 11:56:14 " The FBI (Fake Bureau of Investigation) & the Department of Injustice, together with the Trump Hating Thug, Jack Smith, are interviewing, harassing, and subpoenaing people that work for me relative to the BOXES HOAX, & the “Peacefully & Patriotically” speech I made at the January 6th protest of the Rigged and Stollen Presidential Election, where so many have been treated horribly and Unconstitutionally. This is a Gestapo type operation! Are they doing this to the Biden people? I don’t think so! " ~ ex-'president' continuing to falsely smear our institutions... which long ago stopped making news they absolutely should be investigating his hundreds of classified docs (& thousands of others) improperly taken (& refused to return/lied about)... & are also investigating Biden too & his speech is just a drop in the bucket of his attempt to subvert democracy ...& still can't spell "stolen" (not a typo, he just can't spell)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 17 14:35:14 Trump fan & failed GOP candidate Solomon Peña (who claimed election fraud) has been arrested for having people shoot at homes of Democrat officials http://www...ew-mexico-shootings/index.html
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 18 12:07:47 Trump going to Diamond's memorial service: "please join us...as we celebrate the life of Diamond, she lived it in an incredible way & we're going to have a wonderful celebration & ceremony. All of Diamond's family & Silk, her sister, she loved her sister so much... & they were with me from the beginning & they never wavered...so we're going to celebrate, Silk will be there, but I will be there, & we're going to celebrate the life of Diamond..." http://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1615758359596261377 pretty confident he doesn't know their real names or anything about her life that she supposedly 'lived in an incredible way' i'll also guess he disappears quick
murder Member	Wed Jan 18 12:36:50 "... Silk will be there, but I will be there ..." lol :o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 19 12:01:40 Tucker about the New Zealand PM: "What are the chances she was a puppet of the Chinese government? We don’t have enough evidence to prove that but we would rate that as about 100% likely..." http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1615882635280015364 he pauses before 'have enough' probably as he has no evidence whatsoever
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 19 12:05:37 idiot: " Making a big political speech today at TRUMP DORAL, in Miami. The Fake News says I am not campaigning very hard. I say they are stupid and corrupt, with the Election still a long time away. But do not fear, MANY GIANT RALLIES and other events coming up soon. It will all be wild and exciting. We will save our Country from DOOM and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 19 21:56:52 " The Supreme Court has just announced it is not able to find out, even with the help of our “crack” FBI, who the leaker was on the R v Wade scandal. They’ll never find out, & it’s important that they do. So, go to the reporter & ask him/her who it was. If not given the answer, put whoever in jail until the answer is given. You might add the publisher and editor to the list. Stop playing games, this leaking cannot be allowed to happen. It won’t take long before the name of this slime is revealed! " " Arrest the reporter, publisher, editor - you’ll get your answer fast. Stop playing games and wasting time! " ~ former head of executive branch (& candidate running for that office again) calling for more improper arrests (for the ~55th time in the past week or so)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 19 21:58:57 but he doesn't like his guilty CFO & his criminal org being convicted: " I can’t get over the fact that a casualty of the greatest Witch Hunt of all time, Allen Weisselberg, my long time employee and chief financial officer, is sitting in a prison cell in Rikers Island for a type of case that has never been brought before in the history of our Country. He didn’t pay taxes on the use of a company car - does anyone?The use of a company apartment - does anyone? Or the Education of his grandchildren - Wow! Are these things really a criminal, or even a crime? [yeah, obviously] Remember, we are talking about New York City as the Crime and Murder Capital of the World, where no murder case has even been tried by the D.A. in 6 years, and yet they spend tens of millions of dollars, view 11,000,000 pages of documents, years of investigation, and weeks in trial over the education of grandchildren, etc. Such a thing has never happened before. He was offered a “DEAL” if he pled GUILTY TO EVERYTHING - 90 days, or Life in Prison. Allen Weisselberg is a CRIME VICTIM, and so am I. "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 19 23:12:13 "Trump and his lawyer Alina Habba sanctioned nearly $1 million for frivolous lawsuit accusing Clinton, the DNC, Comey and others of a sweeping conspiracy to harm him in 2016" http://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1616289925489385472 some bits from article: " “This case should never have been brought,” U.S. District Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks wrote in a 46-page ruling. “Its inadequacy as a legal claim was evident from the start. No reasonable lawyer would have filed it. Intended for a political purpose, none of the counts of the amended complaint stated a cognizable legal claim.” ... The suit names Mrs. Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and other people and entities that he claimed conspired to damage him in the 2016 election with what he called false claims about his ties to Russia. Among the defendants were Mr. Comey; the former deputy F.B.I. director Andrew G. McCabe, who opened the counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia; and the former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele, who helped circulate a dossier of lurid claims about Mr. Trump and Russia, many of which were unsubstantiated. The conspiracy-minded racketeering suit was filed with hyperbole and exaggerations, and made claims easily shown to be false. In the ruling on Thursday, Judge Middlebrooks broke down how the suit’s claims — including that Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Comey had conspired to take down Mr. Trump — were “implausible” and “categorically absurd.” Mr. Trump’s claims were “a hodgepodge of disconnected, often immaterial events, followed by an implausible conclusion,” the judge wrote, adding, “This is a deliberate attempt to harass; to tell a story without regard to facts.” " ------------- "to tell a story without regard to facts” that's literally all Trump ever does finally at least some consequences for his continual misuse of the legal system
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 20 19:07:17 "David Crosby knew the truth about the Kennedy assassination- perhaps that is why he has now turned up dead!" ~ Roger Stone ... citing something Crosby said in 1967
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jan 20 20:00:28 You know he only hired her 'cos he thinks she's hot.
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