Utopia Talk / Politics / Cali wantes 2 pay negros $360,000 repara

OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Sat Mar 04 21:36:45 http://www...ple-task-force-decides-to.html Now California reparations panel RAISES amount it wants to give 1.8m black people from $220,000 to $360,000 each in $650 BILLION give away - as hearing is told payments are 'only way to stop our children busting into liquor and grocery stores' * Black Californians could be paid $360,000 each as part of 'reparations' plan * Locals divided over the project which one said had turned into 'political theatre' * It comes as several other cities contemplate similar initiatives Black Californians could be in line for $360,000 each as part of the state's plan to dish out 'reparations' to descendants of slaves. Secretary of State Shirley Weber told a meeting today that California must 'admit its sins and change the narrative,' to pave the way for initiatives similar to ones already being considered in other states. But there has been no detail about how the $650 billion project will be funded amid concerns over California's growing deficit which is expected to worsen due to a jobs blood bath in its tax-generating Silicon Valley. And members of the black community were divided over the plan, with one woman saying racial injustice would not be solved 'if we just throw money at it.' Others accused the scheme of being nothing more than 'political theatre' and 'marketing' rather than offering genuine support to black Americans. A nine-member 'reparations taskforce' was set up in 2020 by California Governor Gavin Newsom following nationwide protests for racial justice in the wake of the killing of George Floyd. Previous estimates suggested the payments could be as much as $220,000 each for the state's 1.8 million black citizens. But in a meeting on Friday, the taskforce indicated the cheques could actually be as high as $350,000 as they seek to compensate Black citizens for generations of discriminatory practices. There have been difficulties from the start around how the state could accurately measure the harms suffered by its black citizens. And local residents voiced concerns about how the money would be paid in practice. One man wearing a top hat told the meeting that the money must be made in cash payments direct to black citizens. 'There is only one thing that would stimulate this economy - and I need you to spread the word what you heard - and that one thing is capital, money, reparations,' he told the meeting. 'That will stimulate the economy for the millions of blacks in California. 'There is only one thing that would stop our children busting into these liquor stores and grocery stores, stealing junk food and different things and that's reparations.' However Gloria Pierrot-Dyer, 71, disagreed. 'If you want to do something it’s not going to solve the problem if we just throw money at it,' she said. ‘We need programs and resources to undo the psychological harm that has been done by being surrounded by hatred for centuries.' The taskforce in California is made up of: Chair Kamilah Moore, Vice Chair Dr. Amos C. Brown, San Diego Councilmember Monica Montgomery Steppe, California State Senator Steven Bradford, Dr. Cheryl Grills, Lisa Holder, Donald K. Tamaki, Jovan Scott Lewis, and Reginald Jones Sawyer. Moore has previously stated she plans to be as 'radical as possible' when it comes to deciding who will receive reparations and how much. But local residents took aim at the taskforce during Friday's heated meeting, with one man demanding Moore 'step down and step aside' as she was not fit for the job. 'This is all political theatre and it needs to end,' he added. Meanwhile one woman pointed out the taskforce had been put together by Governor Gavin Newsom, Senate President Toni Atkins and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon - none of whom are black. 'We don’t expect non-blacks to tell us how we going to get reparations - we’re going to mobilize it by ourselves. It’s power to the people.' In California, white families are roughly six times wealthier than their black counterparts. The taskforce is considering a model which would use the state's racial wealth gap to measure how much descendants of slaves had lost. A conservative estimate would mean the state owed $636.7 billion to its black citizens. Other strategies discussed were calculating damages related to specific injustices such as housing discrimination, mass incarceration and health harms. The taskforce has until July 1 to publish its recommendations and outline exactly how the reparations will be made. It will then be up to lawmakers to decide whether to adopt them. The idea of giving reparations to black citizens has become popular across America, with cities including Boston, Massachusetts, St Paul, Minnesota, and St Louis, Missouri, as well as the California cities, San Francisco and Los Angeles, among those to have set up similar task forces. Evanston, Illinois, in 2021 became the first US city to provide reparations to its Black residents, including giving housing grants. More recently politicians in Shelby County, Memphis, voted to allocate $5 million funding to a feasibility study which will 'establish, develop and implement reparations.' Cities including Boston, Massachusetts, St Paul, Minnesota, and St Louis, Missouri, as well as the California cities, San Francisco and Los Angeles, have also set up task forces and panels to hatch their own reparations plans.
kargen Member	Sat Mar 04 21:41:53 I think any time a bill is proposed for reparations at any level of government there should be an amendment stating any person that has held public office in the last twenty years is not eligible.
murder Member	Sat Mar 04 23:00:50 *shrug* Not my money. Not my problem. :o)
murder Member	Sat Mar 04 23:02:10 "I think any time a bill is proposed for reparations at any level of government there should be an amendment stating any person that has held public office in the last twenty years is not eligible." I think there should be some personal risk involved. Have whatever funds normally pay to provide security for them diverted to the reparations fund.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Mar 05 10:43:29 Africans owe far more than that in reparations for all their crime.
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 05 10:54:08 "There is only one thing that would stop our children busting into these liquor stores and grocery stores, stealing junk food and different things and that's reparations." Well that's fucking racist.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Mar 05 15:11:43 Also blackmail. We will commit crime until we give you money. Nuke em.
Turtle Crawler Admin	Sun Mar 05 20:06:58 They should do it, then when it doesn't work a few more people might wake up.
Turtle Crawler Admin	Sun Mar 05 20:11:51 And as a plus cali would be bankrupt
jergul large member	Mon Mar 06 06:46:47 It boils down to about 35 billion/year in community, housing and educational support. Not really a terrible idea. That would be how it is done. The 4 acres and a mule concept has seen its day 150 years ago.
murder Member	Mon Mar 06 07:21:28 "Not really a terrible idea." It's an insane idea. First of all giving a bunch of money to poor people is damn near guaranteed to end badly. It's also insane to try to get one generation of people to "repay" centuries worth of oppression. It's even crazier considering that we're still racking up the bills.
murder Member	Mon Mar 06 07:22:27 "It boils down to about 35 billion/year in community, housing and educational support." That's hardly a new idea. For the most part we've been doing that for decades now.
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