Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump to be arrested Tuesday

Rugian Member	Sat Mar 18 11:06:18 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 5h OUR NATION IS NOW THIRD WORLD & DYING. THE AMERICAN DREAM IS DEAD! THE RADICAL LEFT ANARCHISTS HAVE STOLLEN OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND WITH IT, THE HEART OF OUR OUR COUNTRY. AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE BEING ARRESTED & HELD IN CAPTIVITY LIKE ANIMALS, WHILE CRIMINALS & LEFTIST THUGS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM THE STREETS, KILLING & BURNING WITH NO RETRIBUTION. MILLIONS ARE FLOODING THROUGH OUR OPEN BOARDERS, MANY FROM PRISONS & MENTAL INSTITUTIONS. CRIME & INFLATION ARE DESTROYING OUR VERY WAY OF LIFE...NOW ILLEGAL LEAKS FROM A CORRUPT & HIGHLY POLITICAL MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICE, WHICH HAS ALLOWED NEW RECORDS TO BE SET IN VIOLENT CRIME & WHOSE LEADER IS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS, INDICATE THAT, WITH NO CRIME BEING ABLE TO BE PROVEN, & BASED ON AN OLD & FULLY DEBUNKED (BY NUMEROUS OTHER PROSECUTORS!) FAIRYTALE, THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK! http://tru...Trump/posts/110044039949982181
Average Ameriacn Member	Sat Mar 18 11:32:43 I've ordered more ammo
Paramount Member	Sat Mar 18 11:33:08 Is he wrong? OUR NATION IS NOW THIRD WORLD & DYING ✔ THE AMERICAN DREAM IS DEAD! ✔ THE RADICAL LEFT ANARCHISTS HAVE STOLLEN OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ✕ AND WITH IT, THE HEART OF OUR OUR COUNTRY ✕ (ur country never had a heart) AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE BEING ARRESTED & HELD IN CAPTIVITY LIKE ANIMALS ✔ CRIMINALS & LEFTIST THUGS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM THE STREETS ✔ MILLIONS ARE FLOODING THROUGH OUR OPEN BOARDERS ✔ CRIME & INFLATION ARE DESTROYING OUR VERY WAY OF LIFE ✔ FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK (it remains to be seen)
Paramount Member	Sat Mar 18 11:34:05 The checkmarks got a dark gray color for some reason. Weird.
Paramount Member	Sat Mar 18 11:35:14 OUR NATION IS NOW THIRD WORLD & DYING ✓ THE AMERICAN DREAM IS DEAD! ✓ THE RADICAL LEFT ANARCHISTS HAVE STOLLEN OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ✕ AND WITH IT, THE HEART OF OUR OUR COUNTRY ✕ (ur country never had a heart) AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE BEING ARRESTED & HELD IN CAPTIVITY LIKE ANIMALS ✓ CRIMINALS & LEFTIST THUGS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM THE STREETS ✓ MILLIONS ARE FLOODING THROUGH OUR OPEN BOARDERS ✓ CRIME & INFLATION ARE DESTROYING OUR VERY WAY OF LIFE ✓ FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK (it remains to be seen)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Mar 18 11:46:12 a shame it's not on his efforts to steal the election or keep classified docs this case just about writing off his hush money as a legal expense & possibly also a campaign finance violation if proven done to protect campaign here's hoping the case is strong, though not sure how it can be given he leaves no paper trail & doesn't let assistants keep notes either (just like all legitimate business leaders i'm sure)
Y2A Member	Sat Mar 18 12:34:00 I still find it hard to believe that a corrupt rich white guy can ever go to a non-club fed prison in this country. anyway, the clown is calling for the deplorables to come out to manhattan. it's times like these that I really do wish we had southern style gun laws.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Mar 18 12:47:59 if not willing to rise up to protect Dear Leader, rise up to save America: " IT’S TIME!!! WE ARE A NATION IN STEEP DECLINE, BEING LED INTO WORLD WAR III BY A CROOKED POLITICIAN WHO DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HE’S ALIVE, BUT WHO IS SURROUNDED BY EVIL & SINISTER PEOPLE WHO, BASED ON THEIR ACTIONS ON DEFUNDING THE POLICE, DESTROYING OUR MILITARY, OPEN BORDERS, NO VOTER I.D., INFLATION, RAISING TAXES, & MUCH MORE, CAN ONLY HATE OUR NOW FAILING USA. WE JUST CAN’T ALLOW THIS ANYMORE. THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA!PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!! " either way... work to save his criminal ass through intimidation
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Mar 18 16:43:00 the continual liar's "Tuesday" claim seems based on nothing reports of "as soon as next week" is the basis for his claim... (which doesn't mean happening Tuesday...)
murder Member	Sat Mar 18 16:48:54 What exactly is he being charged with?
murder Member	Sat Mar 18 16:49:55 "the continual liar's "Tuesday" claim seems based on nothing " They probably contacted his attorney to arrange for Trump to turn himself in.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sat Mar 18 16:57:06 He's surrounded by law enforcement 24/7 in the form of the secret service. Obviously NYPD or FBI isn't going to swoop in on SS without advanced notice. Not crazy that at least one of the SS dudes is friendly with Trump and tipped him off. Plausible.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Mar 18 17:49:17 it's plausible but doesn't seem what occurred his mafia attorney said his claim was based on press reports even his all caps counterfeit tweet says so if you follow the really long sentence "NOW [not] ILLEGAL LEAKS... INDICATE THAT... [criminal]... WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK" ================== "What exactly is he being charged with? " possibly nothing, but he has the hush money payment that was [actually] illegally written off as a legal expense, which is a misdemeanor, but if they establish done for purpose of protecting his campaign [which is a campaign finance violation] then becomes a felony (so basically both those definitely happened, but they have to prove Trump personally involved beyond a reasonable doubt) however, if you listen to fuckhead & his garbage news cloud you'd think he's being charged for fucking Stormy... even Giuliani was on Newsmax or Fox saying 'they didn't go after Bill Clinton for Monica so why going after Trump for Stormy?????'... um, maybe as nothing whatsoever in common
jergul large member	Sat Mar 18 22:36:11 I HAVE DECIDED TO ONLY USE CAPITAL LETTERS IN THIS FORUM.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Mar 18 23:31:13 i seriously wonder if anyone on the Right even knows what crimes he's being accused of... i keep seeing only that Trump had sex w/ Stormy, such as garbage Bongino on garbage Fox: “This is one of the darkest days in our history if this turns out to be true. The political opponent of the man in the WH, whose son is on tape committing sexual acts that you’re accusing Donald Trump of” http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1637260887311409153 -maybe- he clarified more after that clip ends but i doubt it & makes no sense to mention Hunter sex acts to begin with plus they're clueless on Jan 6th investigations thinking it was all about just the riot... & on the classified docs case... & on how Russia collusion investigation was NOT a hoax... totally uninformed... thanks Fox! (& Elon & the rest)
murder Member	Sat Mar 18 23:52:55 "i seriously wonder if anyone on the Right even knows what crimes he's being accused of..." I don't either. Something something write off, something something campaign violation, something something paperwork. Maybe they have a real case against him, but if they do I haven't seen it laid out by anyone.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Mar 18 23:56:49 if Fox was actually news they'd know instead, Trump keeps denying having an affair w/ her & they just decide he's being charged for having an affair i guess & defend him as such
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 00:04:07 claiming the hush money as a legal expense let him write it off his taxes, pretty clear why that's not legal & Cohen already got convicted on the campaign finance violation so obviously that was a crime i don't see how whether he fucked her is relevant, & certainly isn't why he's being charged (despite what idiots on the Right keep pushing), but if it is, given she detailed his penis appearance, maybe he'll have to expose himself Michael Jackson style to confirm or deny
murder Member	Sun Mar 19 13:35:36 "claiming the hush money as a legal expense let him write it off his taxes, pretty clear why that's not legal" So the state of New York is charging him with tax evasion?
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 19 13:40:25 No, the Manhattan DA is charging him with a bullshit crime that is a misdemeanor in 99% of cases, using a legal code that is entirely different from the one that was used on Cohen. TW isn't telling you this obviously, because he peddles non-stop misinformation.
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 19 13:50:00 This entire case stinks on ice: "[DA] Bragg is struggling to twist state laws to effectively prosecute a federal case long ago rejected by the Justice Department against Trump over his payment of “hush money” to former stripper Stormy Daniels. In 2018 (yes, that is how long this theory has been around), I wrote how difficult such a federal case would be under existing election laws. Now, six years later, the same theory may be shoehorned into a state claim. It is extremely difficult to show that paying money to cover up an embarrassing affair was done for election purposes as opposed to an array of obvious other reasons, from protecting a celebrity’s reputation to preserving a marriage. That was demonstrated by the failed federal prosecution of former presidential candidate John Edwards on a much stronger charge of using campaign funds to cover up an affair. In this case, Trump reportedly paid Daniels $130,000 in the fall of 2016 to cut off or at least reduce any public scandal. The Southern District of New York’s U.S. Attorney’s office had no love lost for Trump, pursuing him and his associates in myriad investigations, but it ultimately rejected a prosecution based on the election law violations. It was not alone: The Federal Election Commission chair also expressed doubts about the theory. Prosecutors working under Bragg’s predecessor, Cyrus Vance Jr., also reportedly rejected the viability of using a New York law to effectively charge a federal offense. More importantly, Bragg himself previously expressed doubts about the case, effectively shutting it down soon after he took office. The two lead prosecutors, Carey R. Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz, resigned in protest. Pomerantz launched a very public campaign against Bragg’s decision, including commenting on a still-pending investigation. He made it clear that Trump was guilty in his mind, even though his former office was still undecided and the grand jury investigation was ongoing. Pomerantz then did something that shocked many of us as highly unprofessional and improper: Over Bragg’s objection that he was undermining any possible prosecution, Pomerantz published a book detailing the case against an individual who was not charged, let alone convicted. He was, of course, an instant success in the media that have spent years highlighting a dozen different criminal theories that were never charged against Trump. Pomerantz followed the time-tested combination for success — link Trump to any alleged crime and convey absolute certainty of guilt. For cable TV shows, it was like a heroin hit for an audience in a long agonizing withdrawal. And the campaign worked. Bragg caved, and “America’s Got Trump” apparently will air after all. However, before 12 jurors can vote, Bragg still has to get beyond a series of glaring problems which could raise serious appellate challenges later. While we still do not know the specific state charges in the anticipated indictment, the most-discussed would fall under Section 175 for falsifying business records, based on the claim that Trump used legal expenses to conceal the alleged hush-payments that were supposedly used to violate federal election laws. While some legal experts have insisted such concealment is clearly a criminal matter that must be charged, they were conspicuously silent when Hillary Clinton faced a not-dissimilar campaign-finance allegation. Last year, the Federal Election Commission fined the Clinton campaign for funding the Steele dossier as a legal expense. The campaign had previously denied funding the dossier, which was used to push false Russia collusion claims against Trump in 2016, and it buried the funding in the campaign’s legal budget. Yet, there was no hue and cry for this type of prosecution in Washington or New York. A Section 175 charge would normally be a misdemeanor. The only way to convert it into a Class E felony requires a showing that the “intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.” That other crime would appear to be the federal election violations which the Justice Department previously declined to charge. The linkage to a federal offense is critical for another reason: Bragg’s office ran out of time to prosecute this as a misdemeanor years ago; the statute of limitations is two years. Even if he shows this is a viable felony charge, the longer five-year limitation could be hard to establish." http://the...-ratings-but-short-on-the-law/
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 19 13:55:26 TL;DR, Bragg himself didn't want to prosecute this case, but was pressured into doing so after one of his zealous underlings decided to go on a media tour shilling his book about how Trump is guilty. This despite the fact that the charges against Trump would be unprecedented and the case against him is flimsy on both technical and substantial grounds. Trump *might* still be found guilty, because NYC is the last place you could find an impartial judge and jury, but in a less corrupt shithole this who thing would be tossed out in minutes.
murder Member	Sun Mar 19 14:26:37 Thanks but I stopped listening to Jonathan Turley since he all but officially joined Team Trump.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 14:58:45 yeah, i've seen Jonathan Turley multiple times on Faux News defending Trump on every legal issue (plus used during defense on impeachment) and as to: "It is extremely difficult to show that paying money to cover up an embarrassing affair was done for election purposes as opposed to an array of obvious other reasons, from protecting a celebrity’s reputation to preserving a marriage." Michael Cohen was -already- convicted for that also, Trump has no reputation to protect but no this isn't the case i want to see... although it's not like Trump will exercise his right to a speedy trial, so the other charges will still come before this ever goes to trial & which of his crimes goes to trial first will be unknown for a long time
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 15:13:11 & Trump didn't pardon Cohen for that crime, so admission of guilt. case closed
kargen Member	Sun Mar 19 15:19:43 " but he has the hush money payment that was [actually] illegally written off as a legal expense, which is a misdemeanor" all fine and good but it has already been determined that payment was on the lawyer and not on former President Trump. Of course you don't remember the outcome of those hearings because you live in an alternate reality. They think they are harming Trumps chances in 2024 but all they are really doing is expanding his loyal base.
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 19 15:40:30 Tw I'd love to see you quote some legal scholar who hasn't completely been on the anti-Trump bandwagon for the last half-decade. Also Cohen pled guilty and turned rat, he wasn't convicted. But his case is absolutely irrelevant here as those were federal charges that are completely different from the ones Bragg is pursuing. So stop bringing up that irrelevant jizzstain.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 16:20:46 "all fine and good but it has already been determined that payment was on the lawyer and not on former President Trump" determined by what? and are you back to claiming Cohen did it on his own to impress Trump or whatever made-up nonsense motive you had? you've already been proven wrong since Trump paid him back
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 16:28:48 (plus Trump is -on tape- discussing the other hush money payment... so yeah, he knew)
kargen Member	Sun Mar 19 18:14:13 Paying someone as part of a non disclosure agreement isn't illegal. Remember when she had to pay a fine for breaking the agreement?
kargen Member	Sun Mar 19 18:14:50 The liberals are going to fuck around and get Trump elected again.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 18:54:27 he's not going to be charged with things that aren't illegal as you can't charge for things that aren't illegal he won't be charged for fucking her he won't be charged for paying her to keep quiet (not that people who get info from the fraudosphere will know these simple things)
Rugian Member	Sun Mar 19 20:18:59 tumbleweed the wanderer Sun Mar 19 18:54:27 "he's not going to be charged with things that aren't illegal as you can't charge for things that aren't illegal" Since you elected to ignore my earlier post, I'll just say again that he is being charged with a statute that is being warped in an unprecedented way by the prosecutor in order to make it applicable to Trump. So yes, he is getting the banana republic treatment.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Mar 19 21:04:07 we don’t know what he’s being charged with or even if being charged, but I -am- certain it will be with something that is illegal (as the ‘news’ on the Right doesn’t seem to want to mention... not the first time they bought into the weird shit Trump puts out, like when he complained the classified docs weren’t on the floor... which was confession of guilt, btw... but instead idiots on Fox also then complaining the docs weren’t on the floor...)
kargen Member	Sun Mar 19 22:06:39 Your brain really is all kinds of fucked up from your delusions. They weren't saying the documents were not on the floor. They were saying the FBI put them on the floor for the photograph. Might be true might not be. The photos are not evidence one way or the other.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Mar 20 00:27:27 yes, the FBI put them on the floor for a photograph... as is not remotely uncommon... spreading collected evidence out for evidence photos Trump acting like it tarnished the FBI is fucking ridiculous... but he's a known idiot child... adults at alleged news outlets shouldn't join in (although fairly well established Fox is total garbage at this point) "The photos are not evidence one way or the other." they weren't trying to claim he put them on the floor... he is not going to be charged for having them on the floor... it was a totally idiotic observation... doubly so as that's Trump admitting he recognized them & knew where they were (boxes still in his office) after certifying all returned
kargen Member	Mon Mar 20 00:37:08 "Trump acting like it tarnished the FBI is fucking ridiculous..." the left looking at the photo and concluding treason was the ridiculous part and the main reason why Trump responded like he did. "they weren't trying to claim he put them on the floor" the main stream media did. President Trump didn't say he never knew where the documents were. His claim was that it was okay for him to have the documents. That being his claim then yeah of course it doesn't matter that he admits to having them. He didn't say I don't have any documents. He said the documents I have are mine and have been declassified so I could have them. The argument then became whether or not he could declassify them himself. That will eventually be decided. You of course will as always invent your own outcome.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Mar 20 01:33:11 "I'd love to see you quote some legal scholar who hasn't completely been on the anti-Trump bandwagon for the last half-decade." That's an odd goalpost, it means TW has to find a mental retard who has had their head buried beneath the sand for a half a decade, but that is still considered a "legal scholar" in spite of that mental retardation.
patom Member	Mon Mar 20 05:43:07 Rugian, are you going to hop on the Train and go to NY to join Trumps Army? I heard that he's promising to hire your lawyer if you get arrested.
murder Member	Mon Mar 20 07:31:49 Not only that, Trump will be leading the charge into the DA's office. Well not leading, but he'll be right there with them. Well not right there with them, but right there with them in spirit.
murder Member	Mon Mar 20 08:12:34 "even Giuliani was on Newsmax or Fox saying 'they didn't go after Bill Clinton for Monica so why going after Trump for Stormy?????" For the record I'd be perfectly fine with charging both Clintons. The more politicians that get hauled off to prison the better.
Rugian Member	Mon Mar 20 10:17:45 "The more politicians that get hauled off to prison the better." This is perfectly fair. If politicians from both parties were regularly sent to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison then by all means go after Trump. In a "perfect" system he would more than deserve it. As long as the Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas are walking around free though, fuck that.
patom Member	Mon Mar 20 10:47:11 Is it the Democrats fault that the Republicans seem incapable of hiring investigators and prosecutors who can put the Clintons behind bars?
patom Member	Mon Mar 20 10:47:11 Is it the Democrats fault that the Republicans seem incapable of hiring investigators and prosecutors who can put the Clintons behind bars?
patom Member	Mon Mar 20 10:47:11 Is it the Democrats fault that the Republicans seem incapable of hiring investigators and prosecutors who can put the Clintons behind bars?
Paramount Member	Mon Mar 20 11:41:04 So Trump Arrest Day is tomorrow already? Should we prepare with popcorn?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Mar 20 11:44:35 "That's an odd goalpost" good point... it's like when studies showed 80% or whatever of Trump news coverage was negative & concluding major media bias he's objectively a total piece of shit liar, coverage -should- be negative -------------- "The argument then became whether or not he could declassify them himself" not really no... & no of course he can't declassify without anyone knowing... declassifying implies people fucking know it happened... he doesn't even claim he declassified them, he puts out general claims that he 'could have' done so... he's never given a single detail of it occurring bringing up ridiculous claims like he can do it just by thinking (but not saying that's what he did)... & no declassifying secretly, which isn't a thing, wouldn't then make the documents his property so yeah, he absolutely shouldn't have kept secret the docs plastered w/ classified markings that he knowingly had (but, super importantly, not on the floor!)
kargen Member	Mon Mar 20 16:43:19 "not really no" yes really.
Paramount Member	Mon Mar 20 17:09:38 Prelude to Trump Arrest Day. LIVE from New York.So far it looks very boringly peaceful. http://www.youtube.com/live/QylNPnPxRts?feature=share
Paramount Member	Mon Mar 20 17:49:23 So if Trump, a political opponent, is arrested on Biden’s watch — shouldn’t the International Community place sanctions on the Biden regime then?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Mar 20 18:52:21 "yes really" nope... him being able to declassify is not in question... he didn't do it, nothing suggests he did, just a claim he made-up after being caught... and the fact you idiots even accept the idea that it makes sense he can just secretly declassify (w/ absolutely no one aware) & then also just keep all the shit, cause hey, why not, is mind-bogglingly bizarre... like so much of your dismissing of Trump's continual idiotic & dangerous insanity... the real Trump Derangement Syndrome
kargen Member	Mon Mar 20 21:29:34 I offered no opinion on whether or not Trump could declassify documents. I simply told you what the Trump team claimed and pointed out once again you were wrong when said Trump claimed to not have them.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Mar 20 22:13:18 his lawyer certified no classified docs remained... with no "because my client secretly declassified all the remaining documents & the gov't didn't need to know about it then, nor now (as we aren't showing you them), as that totally makes sense... you can just guess which of every single document in gov't is still classified..."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Mar 20 22:40:24 the fact anyone entertains that as a possibility is idiotic, but to drive home how idiotic, here's the only statement ever released by Trump's team to news outlets (& posted on his website) & never retracted by Trump, about how the alleged declassification happened: "As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time. American presidents are no different. President Trump, in order to prepare the work for the next day, often took documents, including classified documents, to the residence. He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified the moment he removed them." so not some rushed declassification at end of term that didn't get handled... some absurd standing order that makes no sense whatsoever, the ONLY possible reason to have such an order would be to prevent him from having classified docs (gee, the crime he just got caught doing!) all docs he took home every weekend for 4 years just were to be idiotically declassified based on time & geography of when/where seen (actually it's even worse than i recall since says "to the residence", so that includes just his home area in the White House... no adults would ever have allowed such an order, and in fact zero people in the White House recall this order & multiple (including at least two of his Chiefs of Staff) claim it's insane & would never have been allowed for extremely obvious reasons & why did they go w/ such a stupid explanation? as they know there will be no record of any of the docs being declassified so no, he did NOT declassify them... it's an insanely obvious lie... he lies 100% of the time about any wrongdoing... completely proven multiple times how does anyone not see through this stuff??????????
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Mar 20 23:26:13 Fox continuing to keep the viewers informed: "There's no proof Trump slept with Stormy, there's no baby. And Trump didn't use campaign funds." ~ Jesse Watters http://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1637953941521543171 neither relevant to the charges being discussed... (& you can indeed fuck w/o a baby)
Sam Adams Member	Mon Mar 20 23:48:05 "And Trump didn't use campaign funds" This part seems like it might be relevant.
kargen Member	Tue Mar 21 00:56:39 Jesse Watters is the host of a talking head program. He is there to entertain not inform. The viewers pretty much know that. FOX News does a good job of keeping opinion driven and news programs separate unlike most the other networks.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Mar 21 02:07:17 yeah, by not having any news programs ...and of course you accept a “news” channel providing regular flat misinfo justifying as entertainment... ——- “This part seems like it might be relevant.” I don’t believe so... Cohen paid Stormy and Trump repaid him, then it was written off as a legal expense by Trump Org (at least that’s is my understanding)... and that’s the misdemeanor under consideration (& felony if they can tie it as a campaign finance violation for which Cohen already convicted based on the same facts, strongly suggesting it was a crime as known) not a sexy case and I’ve seen no one excited about it, & certainly not one that would ‘bring him down’
Habebe Member	Tue Mar 21 11:28:28 The funny thing about Trumps support in the public is that, the democrats have made him basically bullet proof by crying wolf so many times. From day one, they have lobbied hundreds of accusations over and over, most of which have been shown over time to be complete falsehoods made up by people like HRC and Adam Schiff. But then when they have accusation 2,467 they think anyone who doesn't beleive with religious fervor that Trump is the anti-christ will takenit seriously? Dems do something similar all the time, where they overlay their hand so much so that it actually makes any valid point useless. Take Jan 6th, they compared it to 9/11, "worst attack on our democracy since the civil war" and drones on about the deaths. Well, the fact is, no one died there that day except for a female veteran a black supremacist murdered. Some say 6 cops died, the fact is, that is 100% fairytale false, it never happened, it has less credibility than the Clinton hit list. Worst attack on our democracy since the Civil war? The US initiated the civil war, so are they arguing a pro slavery stance?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Mar 21 11:57:32 "most of which have been shown over time to be complete falsehoods" incorrect & zero hoaxes have been established out of the numerous hoaxes the fucking liar claims the collusion investigation was NEVER about him & publicly known it was about the campaign in general... plus Trump Jr did every element of collusion he could (w/ Trump aware) & still unknown what Manafort was up to... & investigation was NOT a hoax, the Hillary lawyer/Alpha bank thing was nothing (plus no wrong-doing found in court anyway), the Steele dossier also not shown to be a hoax & also was NOT a major part of it despite Fox over & over pretending it was the core, so not caused by some Hillary hoax (nor Schiff) some people exaggerating significance of J6 riot (although their goal WAS changing outcome of election on his lies & yes, with violence) doesn't change the fucking insane level of dangerous shit Trump was up to that the right doesn't care about AT ALL (pressuring -numerous- officials in multiple states to just chuck the votes & declare him winner based on things he was repeatedly told were false & trying to corrupt the DOJ to just lie & back him (w/ stooge traitor AG already picked & lie letter already drafted)... & many cultist traitors in legislatures on board, just not various key people... who he then tried replace as much as possible in midterms, luckily w/ limited success despite his claims of massive victory... but him being a failure doesn't make his acts any less dangerous) impeachment #1 was established he did it, many R's agreeing... w/ him putting up zero people w/ a defense, while Dems -wanted- those around Trump to testify & him preventing it impeachment #2 was on J6, he absolutely was the cause of that riot, stirring them up for months with his bullshit lies & inviting them & inciting them (despite 1 time saying 'peacefully' in a speech full of incitement & telling them the outcome was still changeable if that vote stopped) plus he DID side w/ Putin in Helsinki, then told an obvious lie to the public when even Fox didn't back him... a crazy unfit act followed by a blatant lie & somehow that made it all fine there's a life-long track record of him doing wrong... him just slipping out of it w/ settlements that have NDAs, abusing bankruptcy laws, straddling the line of fraud laws constantly, intimidating those who would expose him, & justice taking forever on criminal charges (or him being immune while 'president' which was stupid imo)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Mar 21 12:07:56 "A Trump indictment would be a disgusting abuse of power. The DA should be put in jail." ~ Rand Paul http://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1638168633149882370 he doesn't even know the charges or evidence he has... Rand fully joining the cult of idiots that protect the criminal at all costs
Sam Adams Member	Tue Mar 21 12:09:57 Whats really going to hammer left-wing dems is that they love to be soft on crime. Except in this case. A bit of tax evasion is the sort of low-end crime that a soros prosecutor would normally give the most benign slap on the wrist for. These clowns are handing out slaps on the wrist for armed robbery and all of a sudden want to hammer a misdemeanor tax evasion? The hypocrisy is rank.
www.yeswecansong.com Member	Tue Mar 21 12:43:23 "Making pictures of Trump getting arrested while waiting for Trump's arrest." http://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1637927681734987777
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Mar 21 15:15:36 glorious dare to dream
murder Member	Tue Mar 21 18:12:18 "The US initiated the civil war" You've been living in South Carolina too long.
Sam Adams Member	Tue Mar 21 19:23:46 "Making pictures of Trump getting arrested while waiting for Trump's arrest." Ok ray finkle.
jergul large member	Tue Mar 21 20:38:43 Sammy Its a technique predating RICO. Get mobsters and racketeers for anything and throw the book at them when you do. Capone was famously sentenced to decades for tax evasion.
obaminated Member	Tue Mar 21 21:39:23 Nothing happened. If people got arrested for paying off a whore then a lot of men would be in jail.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Mar 21 21:43:41 "Nothing happened" the -ONLY- source claiming an arrest today was Trump... who even said he was basing it on news reports (as did his spokespeople when asked why he was saying Tuesday)... however no news reporting ever said Tuesday... he's a fucking liar... i guess he made up a specific day in hopes of getting impressive protests (which didn't happen... sad!) "If people got arrested for paying off a whore then a lot of men would be in jail" not the crime in question... though it's what keeps getting churned out by garbage news so not your fault (other than for still watching/reading the garbage news)
Sam Adams Member	Wed Mar 22 01:03:49 "Its a technique predating RICO. Get mobsters and racketeers for anything and throw the book at them when you do. Capone was famously sentenced to decades for tax evasion." You have a bit of a point, ill give you that. Youd have more of a point if trump was as clearly bad as capone was. Hes a shitty president but hes not gunning down rival gangsters. Dont get me wrong, trump is enough of a douche that he deserves some time in prison... but having a far left prosecutor go after trump while being completely forgiving of most other crimes simply sends a message of hypocrisy and probably helps trump. People see the rank hypocrisy and dont like it, making them more likely to vote for the fucker.
Paramount Member	Wed Mar 22 08:09:15 "Nothing happened" It was fake news.
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