Utopia Talk / Politics / homeowner vs black kid

tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 17 21:17:29 black kid (16) went to wrong home to pick up little brothers at ~10pm... old white guy (84) answers door and shoots him twice “ Lester fired two shots through a glass door from a .32-caliber revolver, the prosecutor said. Yarl, who was struck in the head and an arm, did not cross the threshold, Thompson said, adding it did not appear any words were exchanged in the encounter. But Yarl told police in an interview at the hospital where he was treated that the man told him, "Don't come around here," local media reported, citing court documents. “ http://www...-going-wrong-house-2023-04-17/ seems likely race was a factor in causing the fear, unlikely the kid just decided to be menacing for some reason (and I don’t think old guy has ever claimed so... though he will once his lawyer done with him) he’s been arrested but surely will go with ‘feared for my life’... is MAGA world going to back him?
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 17 22:00:23 Maybe your side should have months of violent riots over this singular incident. That is your MO, is it not...you cultist?
Forwyn Member	Mon Apr 17 22:07:29 "84-year-old" "life in prison" lol
Sam Adams Member	Mon Apr 17 22:47:14 Black people shoot 10,000 white people per year in the US. no posts from tw on any of those. Hmmm.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 17 22:58:06 probably not many using a 'stand your ground' defense
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 00:18:21 here's the racist attempted murderer's narrative (in the attached image): http://twi...tatus/1648094746055778305?s=20 (w/ poor cropping... some of missing top part seems to include hearing doorbell ring & i believe he says he was getting into bed somewhere) TLDR: he claims black guy was pulling on the door handle of the exterior locked storm door & was "scared to death" of the guy's size
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 00:25:42 some of the innocent angelic black kid's narrative: http://twitter.com/MattFlenerKMBC/status/1648104042000777219 TLDR: he claims he rang bell, that it took awhile for guy to answer (he claims he didn't touch door handle)... then old guy answered & shot him in the head & again when he was on ground so... i'll judge it's possible he may have tried the door handle since old guy taking a long time (as was getting in bed originally, & kid obviously assumes he's at the right address) but i'll stick w/ insufficient to attempt killing ...there's probably better links to that document out there but find 'em yourselves
earthpig GTFO HOer	Tue Apr 18 00:37:22 It should be able to be proven, one way or another, if being shot in the arm happened while he was still standing, or once he was on the ground. Which might hint at which of the two stories is being retold with more/less accuracy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 01:19:41 it’s also possible the kid reached for the outer door once inner opened thinking he was being let in in any case, I wouldn’t say it warrants lethal force... people put flyers and newspapers inside that door (& this was locked so not even opened)... maybe not at 10pm (though some Chinese restaurants probably do...) but newspapers can come ungodly early (& I got many a complaint for letting that door bang when I delivered ‘em early, as a kid)
Dukhat Member	Tue Apr 18 01:23:19 Dude looks senile as fuck. Another Cherub Cow type, obsessed over facebook memes and conspiracies and ready to shoot at imagined enemies.
Rugian Member	Tue Apr 18 06:46:00 "Man accused of fatally shooting New York woman who went to the wrong address" http://the...who-went-to-the-wrong-address/ Unfortunately for tumbleweed the victim here was white, so he and Democrats can't use this story as a platform to falsely claim that America is hugely racist (it's not).
Dukhat Member	Tue Apr 18 08:52:29 What a fucking stupid argument on all levels.
Forwyn Member	Tue Apr 18 10:06:11 Not really stupid. Another example of an old jumpy person whose dimished threat assessment and greater sense of vulnerability in the face of decreased physical ability to deter real threats kills an unexpected person at night. Fortunately this kid lived. Unfortunately people with agendas will manipulate this.
Rugian Member	Tue Apr 18 10:27:27 The point is that just because a black person dies somewhere in America, that doesn't mean that racism was the motivating factor. Tumbleweed could have easily named this thread "Homeowner vs. Lost teen" and it would have been just as accurate, and without suggesting the racism card. But no, because leftist media is fucking obsessed with the idea that black people are being killed in America for their race, the skin color of the victim needed to be highlighted. Maybe race played a role. More likely, the cause of the incident was the homeowner being a senile fuck.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 11:43:41 your article is dated today so i had no chance to post it... my other thread is cops vs homeowners (the shot party white) & i've posted stupid shootings by any cops & blacks in the past i find it unlikely this old guy was going to shoot anyone he saw at the door, even if touching the outside door handle (which is in dispute), so yeah, i'm guessing race was a main cause of his fear
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 12:06:18 CNN just covered that moron shooter of the woman as a matter of fact
Forwyn Member	Tue Apr 18 12:54:51 Yes, a prim and proper skinny white kid might not have you shot. Bias may have played a role in his initial fear, but that's different than shooting him for being black.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 16:00:10 for Rugian's guy, apparently there was a motorcycle & more than 1 car... thus must use deadly force obviously
kargen Member	Tue Apr 18 16:49:11 CNN and MSNBC are to blame. They have been telling us there is a race war ongoing for several years now. No wonder the old guy was scared.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 18 17:31:41 ha!!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 19 15:11:15 people love shooting people: " ELGIN, Texas (KTRK) -- Two members of an elite competitive cheerleading team in Oak Ridge were shot Tuesday morning after one of the athletes reportedly mistakenly tried to get into the wrong car after practice. The four young women drove from the Round Rock area to Woodlands Elite Cheer Company in Oak Ridge three times each week for practice. They used the Elgin H-E-B as a carpool lot for the approximately 360-mile round-trip. Just after midnight, cheerleader Heather Roth said she got out of her friend's car and opened the door to a vehicle she believed to be her own in the H-E-B parking lot. Roth said there was a man sitting in the passenger seat, so she initially panicked, thinking a stranger was inside her car, and got back into her friend's vehicle. When she noticed the man approach their vehicle, she said she rolled down the window to apologize, telling him she thought it was her car. Roth said the man threw up his hands, pulled out a gun, and started shooting. ABC13 has verified the testimony with Bastrop County sources. An affidavit states that the H-E-B manager witnessed the gunman "shoot at the vehicle multiple times" before fleeing the area. ... " http://abc...odriguez-jr-arrested/13150502/ not enough people being raised on the A-Team... they resolved things without killing... iirc
Dukhat Member	Wed Apr 19 15:57:45 Foreskin getting creative with the facts as usual. Dude shot the kid a 2nd time for no reason and also aimed at the head in the first place. Fucking piece of shit. So many chickenshit neckbeards arming themselves to shoot innocent people. Probably lots of social media usage too.
obaminated Member	Wed Apr 19 20:14:32 Cuckhat doesn't realize when you pull a trigger it's with the intent to kill. Life isn't a video game where you can clip someone. But we know you have a hard time figuring out fantasy from reality.
Dukhat Member	Wed Apr 19 21:13:22 Fuck you, you racist retard. There's some guy on your front step and they ring the doorbell, you don't shoot to kill. You sad, pathetic middle-aged piece of shit.
Dukhat Member	Wed Apr 19 21:14:24 The cuckservatives have only gotten dumber and dumber and worse and worse over time on here. Dumbasses using the internet all day to reinforce their own bigotry and stupidity.
kargen Member	Wed Apr 19 23:29:04 Gun safety classes that I know of all teach over and over again never point a gun at a living thing unless your intent is to kill. You can back off that intent as the situation changes but you should always go in knowing your pointing a gun at a living thing could result in death.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Apr 20 06:45:13 [Left-Wing Projection Bot]: "Another Cherub Cow type, obsessed over facebook memes and conspiracies and ready to shoot at imagined enemies." Wow, Dukhat has like.. zero perception about anything going on around him in UP. I've told him I've never had a personal Facebook account, but I guess he forgot that. Nothing I've said is "conspiracy", and I am far too competent to make mistakes like this with firearms (assuming it was a mistake at all). I wouldn't even need to worry about someone at my front door because I'd let any would-be thief break all the way inside because that's where the trap door and the alligator pit are. Firearms are only a backup if they manage to escape the Saw puzzles. .. [Left-Wing Projection Bot]: "Dude shot the kid a 2nd time for no reason and also aimed at the head in the first place." More retarded logic by Dukhat: • Assuming that the testimony of a delayed second shot is true and/or that any delay necessarily indicates malevolence. • Assuming that there is not reason for follow-on shots. • Assuming that a shooter has total control over exactly where a shot will land (i.e., assuming that the first shot was intended for the head specifically and/or that the target never moved). [Left-Wing Projection Bot]: "you don't shoot to kill." Without getting into extremely niche sub-possibilities: you should *only* shoot to kill. Shooting to wound is delusional Hollywood nonsense. You shouldn't even *point* a firearm unless you expect to kill. This is such an elementary fact of gun safety that it's not surprising that UP's most retarded poster would still not know it after years of people holding his hand (in one ear and out the other?). Dukhat, where do you think nearly every new shooter is taught to aim, what do you think is there, and what do you suppose is the consequence of being shot there? .. [Rugian]: "The point is that just because a black person dies somewhere in America, that doesn't mean that racism was the motivating factor." Exactly. And the left's own racism always enters immediately as they decide that that *must* have been the reason — since it is the basis of *their* perception and they are projecting it onto others. So, if they hear about a black person being shot, they assume that that person was shot because he or she was black — because they themselves react viscerally to black people but they cannot acknowledge that feeling consciously and thus project their feelings when presuming the theory of mind of those who take action against black people. It's like gay men who want to have gay sex but instead insist that they're straight. If they see a man hitting an attractive man, they'll assume that the man doing the hitting must be a latent homosexual acting out against his frustration. Weird guess. Maybe you're just a faggot.
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 20 08:06:42 The Boston Globe (my regional newspaper) has been covering the OP with a series of inflammatory articles: "White America’s ‘sundown town’ mentality almost claims another Black teen’s life" "What to know about KC shooting of Black teen Ralph Yarl" "Shooting of Black teen who went to wrong house investigated" "Man charged in shooting of Black teen at his front door in Kansas City" "Homeowner who shot Black teen Ralph Yarl pleads not guilty" --- Note the consistent use of the term "black teen" to generate maximum outrage. Other news outlets have used similar phraseology, implying and sometimes outright saying that the incident was a racist one. Meanwhile, the news NEVER clarifies the race of the victim of black-on-black crimes, which kill *far* more black Americans than white-on-black crimes despite getting far less coverage. Same thing with black-on-white crimes. Even when race *is* a motivating factor there, the media usually treats the races of the perpetrator and victim as irrelevant. White-on-black incidents are the only ones to get this kind of treatment because the media really wants to color America as some uber-racist place where blacks are treated as non-people.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Apr 20 09:10:48 10,000 whites are shot by negros per year. But this one case of the much less common reverse is what they hype up. The propaganda is blatant.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 20 14:13:11 so here's a crazy black shooter one: " A manhunt is underway near Charlotte, North Carolina, for a man who reportedly shot and seriously wounded his 6-year-old neighbor and her dad when a basketball rolled into his yard. Robert Louis Singletary, 24, should be considered armed and dangerous, Gaston County Police said. He’s 6-foot-2 and about 223 pounds, with brown eyes and black hair. The shooting began after kids had been “playing basketball, and a ball had rolled down that way and had rolled into the yard and they went to go get it,” neighbor Jonathan Robertson told CNN affiliate WBTV. “We never expected anybody would break a gun out amongst all those kids,” he said. “I mean that was insane.” The 6-year-old girl said she was shot in the cheek and described to WBTV her understanding of what happened. “I couldn’t get inside in time so he shot my daddy in the back,” she said. Police would not confirm what started the Tuesday night shooting in Gastonia, citing the investigation. ... " http://www...sketball-singletary/index.html
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 20 14:36:53 And his woke dreadlock haired white grandson claims the dementia riddle 84 year old was radicalized by qanon. Honestly, we have a problem and we need to start culling the herd from these leftist opportunists. Also get rid of half the black population because this mob attacks are becoming way too frequent.
kargen Member	Thu Apr 20 14:54:08 odd thing about that crazy black shooter. The article doesn't tell you he is black. They say police are looking for the suspect and even though a photo is available they don't show the photo. If the little girl had been black and the shooter white CNN would have plastered the report with his picture and already have him "linked" to several white supremist organizations.
Rugian Member	Thu Apr 20 15:01:21 "and already have him "linked" to several white supremist organizations." By which they mean either that he once liked a post on social media that was written by an alt-righter or that there's a photograph of him making the "okay" hand gesture.
kargen Member	Thu Apr 20 15:43:15 Maybe went to a PTA meeting. White supremacists are the rank and file of parents that attend school functions like that.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Apr 20 15:49:20 Marxist/Marcusean “repressive tolerance” (the intentional one-way application of power) really is wild to behold in such overt detail. Regime media applies standards purely based on whether or not they can further Marxism and villainize non-Marxists. They hide the identity of their criminal castes if one of theirs has victimized the target group, but if the target group can even slightly be perceived as victimizing one of the Marxist criminal caste, then the entire weight of Regime propaganda will accelerate on the issue.
murder Member	Thu Apr 20 18:35:32 "A manhunt is underway near Charlotte, North Carolina, for a man who reportedly shot and seriously wounded his 6-year-old neighbor and her dad when a basketball rolled into his yard." This is America. I grew up jumping fences and running through people's properties. The worst anyone ever did was yell at us to leave. We hit tons of cars with footballs, basketballs, frisbees, and anything else we could make a game out of. Even in crazy ass gun swamped Miami back then, no one ever had to worry about getting shot. Americans have lost their damn minds.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 20 19:24:06 The 90s was a lot worse with drive bys shooting into random houses. The biggest problem is the pack of blacks attacking people at random
Dukhat Member	Thu Apr 20 19:51:07 Obaminated is so fucking helpless and stupid, he contiunes to double down when proven wrong. Olease just kill yourself already you fucking ingrate.
obaminated Member	Thu Apr 20 19:58:10 Cuckhat doesn't think it's a growing trend for packs of teenage blacks to attack people at random.
Dukhat Member	Thu Apr 20 20:12:06 Some kid gets shot and you make up some dumb shit about roving bands of black teenagers to justify your own unwillingness to change. You stupid fuck. Go kill yourself.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Apr 20 20:59:14 "roving bands of black teenagers" Commit fucktons of crime and should be watched carefully, preferably through a gunsight.
Forwyn Member	Thu Apr 20 21:26:09 "A manhunt is underway near Charlotte, North Carolina, for a [black] man who reportedly shot and seriously wounded his [white] 6-year-old neighbor and her [white] dad when a basketball rolled into his yard." CC observation proven true
kargen Member	Thu Apr 20 21:27:14 "I grew up jumping fences and running through people's properties. The worst anyone ever did was yell at us to leave." The only person that ever shot at us at least had the decency to put rock salt in bird shot rounds. I was lucky enough to never get hit but my friend said it stung something fierce. The guy did have up a bunch of no trespassing signs, lived a couple of miles from nearest neighbor and we went out there to fuck with him so hard to blame him for taking a few shots.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 20 22:27:23 sort of important to note we don't have the nutbag black guy's story yet... presumably he'll claim the father was aggressive in someway (if he's not a total crazy, which he may be) in any case, no story likely to warrant opening fire, just like the rest of the shootings
kargen Member	Fri Apr 21 02:59:34 Dude turned himself in. Found this on the BBC. "A neighbour told reporters that the shooting had unfolded after a basketball rolled into the suspect's yard. Local residents told US media that when the children went to retrieve their ball, the suspect shouted at them. A father of one of the children went to the suspect's door and remonstrated with him. Police said the suspect went inside his home and came out with a gun before he fired indiscriminately at neighbours. The father who had argued with Mr Singletary was not injured by the gunfire, said neighbours."
obaminated Member	Fri Apr 21 03:26:10 Thankfully the white girl is just gonna have a small scar on her cheek, and a hell of a first date story when she gets older. Black guy turned himself in after fleeing to Florida. So he fled across state lines and injured multiple people for no real reason. He is going away for a long time.
obaminated Member	Fri Apr 21 03:26:57 Also makes me wonder what gun he used? The girl isn't seriously injured. Maybe he was using a bb gun? The injury on her cheek looks like a bb. Or maybe airsoft.
obaminated Member	Fri Apr 21 03:27:57 Oh I forgot, they also got him on kidnapping charges because apparently he took the girl and didn't let her go saying he wouldn't let her go until she finished helping him clean up the scene.
Habebe Member	Fri Apr 21 07:27:59 "claims black guy was pulling on the door handle of the exterior locked storm door & was "scared to death" of the guy's size" I mean, he is 84, he is probably terrifies of steps as well. Idk, seems like an overly jumpy reaction, but I'm not surenit was criminal. "Some kid gets shot and you make up some dumb shit about roving bands of black teenagers to justify your own unwillingness to change." Have you not heard about Chicago?
murder Member	Fri Apr 21 12:30:52 This shit can't be a coincidence ... ===================================== Couple Delivering Instacart Groceries Says Car Was Shot at After They Drove to Wrong Address The couple wants the person who shot at them to be held accountable. A young South Florida couple feared for their lives when someone shot at them after they ended up at the wrong address in Southwest Ranches while delivering groceries. Waldes Thomas said he was delivering for Instacart Saturday, and his girlfriend Diamond D'arville was with him. They were on the phone with the customer trying to find her address but ended up at another home on Southwest 178th Avenue. As they were about to drive off the property, they saw a flashlight. "He's like, 'Who are you?' and we're saying we're with Instacart," D’arville said. D'arville said they thought this could’ve been the person they were supposed to deliver to, but things took a terrible turn. “The guy gets in his truck and reverses, and he pulls up behind us,” D’arville said. When they tried to get away, that's when she saw a man pull out a gun. "I had seen him pull out a gun and that's when I said, 'We got to go, we got to go,'" D’arville said. "I was scared, I'm not going to lie." D’arville said her car was hit several times. They pulled over about a block away and soon they were talking with Davie Police. "We were there for Instacart, we were trying to tell him, and he went about it the wrong way — instead of just calling police, saying I have trespassers on my lawn, he decided to shoot,” Thomas said. Davie Police confirmed with NBC6 that a gun went off at a home on Southwest 178th Avenue. "We can confirm that a discharge of a firearm occurred at a residence at the 6500 block of SW 178th Ave in Southwest Ranches on the 15th. There were no reported injuries," Davie Police's statement to NBC6 said, adding they couldn't release specific information and that the case was active. "(A detective) asked if we wanted to prosecute and we agreed to do that, but he said since they didn't break any laws or do anything unlawful, they couldn't do anything because we were on their property,” D’arville said. The couple is reminded of similar stories in just the last week of people at the wrong address and getting shot. They want the person who shot at them held accountable. "It's just not right — even if you have a gun, I understand you're trying to protect your family, but you don't come outside shooting," D'arville said. "We're telling you what we're here, we're trying to leave and you're blocking us in, it could've just been on our way and they made it bigger than what it was." NBC6 went by the home where the couple said they pulled up to but we weren't able to get on the property. “The safety of the entire Instacart community is incredibly important to us, and we take immediate action when we receive reports of violence or threats of violence made against any member of the Instacart community. "Instacart said in a statement to NBC6. "We have reached out to the shopper and will cooperate with law enforcement on any ongoing investigation." Instacart added that they have several safety resources for its shoppers and any incidents should be reported to and will be investigated by its safety team. http://www...rove-to-wrong-address/3019269/
Rugian Member	Fri Apr 21 12:43:12 Guess the Race? Southwest Ranches is 44% white, 43% Hispanic, 5% black, 4% Asian.
obaminated Member	Fri Apr 21 13:03:04 Black couple and white trash shooter.
Paramount Member	Fri Apr 21 13:11:32 Instacart needs to provide their employees with guns, for self defence. Buy more guns.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Apr 21 15:22:10 CNN is so desperate to foster anti-white propaganda they are now digging up murder cases from 20 years ago. None of the 20,000 black on white murders since then got the samw treatment.
Rugian Member	Fri Apr 21 16:05:10 ^ lol yup. Top of the front page.
Rugian Member	Fri Apr 21 16:14:39 Reminds me of a recent AP article regarding a bunch of Wyoming women who are suing to kick a fake transgender woman out of their sorority... an effort which the reporter then linked to the murder of Matthew Shepherd in order to claim that "Wyoming has a long history of wrangling with LGBTQ+ issues." http://twi...86953?cxt=HHwWkoCw7d3A7OItAAAA The narrative they push is so fucking blatant.
kargen Member	Fri Apr 21 19:03:20 "Oh I forgot, they also got him on kidnapping charges because apparently he took the girl and didn't let her go saying he wouldn't let her go until she finished helping him clean up the scene." that was an earlier case. He hit his girlfriend with a mini sledge hammer and wouldn't let her go to the hospital until she cleaned up the mess. He was I believe out on bail for that one.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 21 19:08:05 so a real 1950s family man #maga
Rugian Member	Fri Apr 21 19:17:48 What's wrong with the 1950s nuclear family, tumbleweed?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 21 19:42:27 it was a wife beating joke of course, as he’s black, he wouldn’t be welcome in 1950s MAGA-land... or most of present day MAGA-land
Forwyn Member	Fri Apr 21 19:47:38 "What's wrong with the 1950s nuclear family, tumbleweed?" Ah, the classic leftist meme that the 1950s was filled with dudes working cushy eight-hour shifts and coming home to Mike Tyson their wives who were all hooked on narcotics
Rugian Member	Wed May 03 16:27:37 Another one: "The Washington Post @washingtonpost A 30-year-old Black man was killed on a New York subway this week after a fellow rider, who is White, confronted the man when he was screaming and placed him in a chokehold for several minutes, according to a witness’s account and video of the encounter." http://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1653836923159322630 It was super important that the racial identities of both parties, even though race doesn't appear to have had anything to do with the incident...but hey, gotta advance that black genocide myth.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 03 16:45:04 yeah, going overboard
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 03 16:47:14 "An Illinois man using a leaf blower in his own yard was fatally shot by his 79-year-old neighbor during an argument, authorities said, marking the latest incident in which people are gunned down while going about their everyday lives. William Martys, 59, was using a leaf blower in his yard at his Antioch home on April 12 when he was approached by his next-door neighbor, Ettore Lacchei. The two argued, the Lake County Sheriff’s Office said. During the altercation, “Lacchei shot Martys in the head,” the sheriff's office said in a news release. An investigation into Martys' death found that Lacchei “had various perceived grievances with Martys.” " http://www...lower-yard-officials-rcna81945 an armed society is a polite society
Forwyn Member	Wed May 03 20:07:41 ^Weren't you and your ilk cheering while Rand Paul got assaulted in a similar manner sans-gun?
obaminated Member	Wed May 03 20:24:43 Guy who killed the homeless guy is a marine vet between deployments, he is now charged with homicide. Fucking stupid to try to detain an erratic homeless nigger in Manhatten. One more reason to just avoid NYC entirely unless required to do so over business.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 03 21:36:16 "Weren't you and your ilk cheering..." i don't recall cheering (though Rand -has- been a dick since infected by the cult leader) also, sans gun makes a difference apparently
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 04 05:42:08 Rand Paul is one of the few GOP members who's against the totalitarians (e.g., he opposed Ukraine funding, opposed COVID mandates, is persisting in Fauci prosecution and origin investigations), so, naturally, tw is against him. .. That subway death seems to be the Regime's primary agitprop at the moment, with the signal set for a boost today (May 4th) were the left not so catastrophically ADD and thus pre-engaged with Star Wars memes. This thread is a good summary of the events and includes the full video: http://twitter.com/bluerepublik/status/1653920129871233024 The short version is that a former Marine and two other bystanders attempted to restrain a homeless man who was threatening to hurt people on a subway. Some reports say that the man was threatening significant harm and was throwing things at people. The Marine puts the homeless man in a rear-naked choke, releases it when the man stops struggling, and then puts him in the recovery position (all in a 3:48 video). EMS arrived and were unable to resuscitate. Naturally, left-wing Twitter (e.g., AOC, her sock puppets, her delusional psychopaths) think it's a "modern lynching" (their go-to delusion for anything race-related), since a black man died and a white man was involved. That's literally all they need, and it doesn't matter that a black man was actually helping the Marine and that the mood on the subway car seems pretty clearly against the homeless man. AOC also calls it a "public murder", so she is proving that she's still retarded/illiterate when it comes to legal matters ( https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1653907660201160704 ). CNN, meanwhile, is posting repressive tolerance headlines for the Atlanta shooting: "Military veteran suspected of killing 1 woman, injuring 4 others in Atlanta medical facility is captured. Here’s how the hourslong manhunt unfolded" https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/04/us/atlanta-midtown-shooting-suspect-thursday/index.html They didn't say the races in the headline, and this follows Steve Sailer's rule that certain criminals are more likely to wound than are others (high wounding, low kills; versus high kills, low wounding), so you know who did what to whom. Spoiler: black man kills white woman. And, of course, since this is not the Regime's ideal flow of power for slave propaganda (i.e., an "oppressed" class killed an "oppressor"), their article links to companion articles that frame it as a need to erode the Second Amendment: "‘This is how people are expected to live now’ in America’s mass shooting reality" https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/04/politics/mass-shooting-reality-america/index.html I pointed this out years ago (pre-2016), by the way, when some in UP still thought that CNN was unbiased: for CNN's website, Marshall McLuhan's "the medium is the message" is very much in play. That is, their propaganda exists not just in their phrasing but in their formatting. So, in this case, visitors see the article on the shooting and are subconsciously fed the Regime's approved reaction (screenshot for reference: https://i.imgur.com/ZFzTdwb.png ). For unaware visitors, this means a multi-step process merges into the Regime narrative: Step 1: Disembodied image and primary article takes up half of the CNN front page; users know that a shooting has happened but know no details about the suspect. Step 2a: If you click the primary article, you are told that the suspect is a "military veteran" (this is priming; this is the detail you are supposed to see above all others) Step 2b: A sub-article mentions that the victim was a "CDC employee" Step 2c: If your eyes are drawn to the bold font of "Analysis", you are conditioned to believe that this is merely "America's mass shooting reality" In film, this is the montage effect (multiple ideas and images combined quickly to simulate a single idea). On CNN.com, these steps combine into the Regime's narrative: • veterans need mental health services • the CDC is being targeted by crazy people (a more subtle point) • mass shootings are the central issue (i.e., erode the Second Amendment) The common CNN viewer ends up thinking that these things are their own thoughts.
obaminated Member	Fri May 05 19:54:09 Lots of witnesses are saying the same thing, the homeless man was screaming about not having food or drink and not worrying about jail because he was ready to die. He was also throwing trash at passengers. In a rational world there would be police around the subway system to prevent this mentally unstable individual from getting on the train. But NYC isn't part of any rational world. So citizens did the safest thing they could do, detain the crazy man before he does something really dangerous and wait for the police to show up. Which they did. The marine hasn't been charged with anything yet but 100% he is going to be charged with something. Probably manslaughter. Fuck NYC. Do not go there.
Cherub Cow Member	Sat May 06 03:23:07 The FBI's news network had this to say: "Black Americans say white vigilantism played a role in Jordan Neely’s homicide. “It reignites the terror in the souls of Black folks when we witness these killings of our people without trial, without jury, without adjudication,” one psychologist says." [NBC News; May 5th, 2023] http://www...dium=social&utm_source=twitter And here's the line that the left is being taught to parrot: "“It’s really disturbing,” he said. “If you’re in New York and ride the subway, you will see homeless people and people having mental health episodes. They’re angry. They’re upset, but a high percentage of the time they’re not threatening. You ignore them or move to another car. You don’t attack them.”" Just ignore it! It's fine! A little bit of assault and a little bit of piss and shit on your shoes is just part of life in the big city! More lols: "Grant said he thinks the deaths of Neely — and Martin, Arbery and many others — stem from racism and the feeling of power that comes with taking matters into their own hands." Don't take things into your own hands! Wait for the help that is not coming! Let yourself be conquered! And they end with the checklist: “And so white superiority ideology is a combination of all those things: ✅ "historical context, ✅ "white supremacy, ✅ "racism, ✅ "classism and ✅ "a system that has been supported through literature, through film, through journalism. And those messages are consistent. We can’t continue to excuse vigilantism.” Gotta make sure that defending yourself in public is "racist" and "white supremacist"! Wouldn't want to defend yourself against the plans of your conquerors! It's far better to be conquered than to be labeled "racist"!
Rugian Member	Sat May 06 10:00:36 ^ along those lines, I read an article yesterday that basically accused Mayor Adams' attempts to clean up the subways of indirectly leading to Neely's death. They literally believe that the subway should be a safe haven for criminals and homeless people. Meanwhile, very few of them probably actually use the subway. Progressivism is an exercise in insanity.
Rugian Member	Sat May 06 10:01:56 NY's city counsel chalked up the incident to racism: "Statement from Speaker Adams on the Killing of Jordan Neely May 3, 2023 “Jordan Neely was a New Yorker, a son, and a performer, and he should still be alive. My heart and condolences are with his loved ones during this difficult time. His killing at the hands of a fellow passenger and the responses to this violence that took his life have been not only tragic but difficult to absorb. Racism that continues to permeate throughout our society allows for a level of dehumanization that denies Black people from being recognized as victims when subjected to acts of violence. The perceptions of Black people have long been interpreted through a distorted, racialized lens that aims to justify violence against us. It is another example of how far we remain from an equitable and just society. “Let’s be clear: any possible mental health challenges that Jordan may have been experiencing were no reason for his life to be taken. The initial response by our legal system to this killing is disturbing and puts on display for the world the double standards that Black people and other people of color continue to face. There must be accountability for his killing, and a thorough investigation by the Manhattan district attorney that accounts for the facts and these realities is critical. Everyone in our city and nation should be reflecting on what this incident represents and says about us.”" http://council.nyc.gov/press/2023/05/03/2396/ They are hellbent on creating division between the races.
Rugian Member	Sat May 06 10:02:13 *council
Cherub Cow Member	Mon May 08 21:56:43 [Rugian]: "They literally believe that the subway should be a safe haven for criminals and homeless people." Yep. AOC directly stated this. My Twitter response was that "AOC wants them in "supportive housing", which effectively means Arkham Asylum is released into the Narrows. She is not a serious person. Curtis Sliwa had far better plans for proper facilities, but, naturally, NYC elected Adams instead." For those unfamiliar, "supportive housing" means that instead of putting criminals in jail, the anarcho-tyranny state places these criminals in special housing (rent free, so it's also a giant welfare scam) where they can be "rehabilitated" (i.e., given criminal caseworkers who graduated with Marxist majors such as sociology). This is similar to halfway homes but is a massive scale-up which definitionally must release higher-level criminals into these networks due to its false belief that psychopaths and braindead criminals can be rehabilitated. In other words, the criminals remain on the streets and are free to continue criminalizing the area. If it were to become a widespread policy, it means that Heinlein's dystopic descriptions of social scientists causing the downfall of society is basically a half-step away. This is specifically because Heinlein warned about policies which take away the brutal consequences of criminality and replace those consequences with an over-compassionate stupidity which thinks that terrible actions can be redeemed with a light touch. In reality, hardened criminals only understand that which shakes their very nervous system, since these people do not otherwise possess the morality to control their actions as citizens, their morality never having been formed with effective lessons in their youth. .. [Adams speech]: "Racism" Lol. No. [Adams speech]: "an equitable and just society." Marxist psychopathy. Equity and [social] justice are the markers of a slave morality. [Adams speech]: "any possible mental health challenges that Jordan may have been experiencing were no reason for his life to be taken." And they were *not* the reason. This is a broken causality by Adams. The cause of actions against Neely was his physical threats upon a law-abiding citizenry. The consequence was that he was rightly subdued. [Adams speech]: "double standards that Black people and other people of color continue to face." Fucking lol. The double standard is that a criminal is called a "victim" by people such as Adams ("'Innocent'? Is that supposed to be funny?"). [Adams speech]: "There must be accountability for his killing" There already has been; Neely is dead. He was held accountable for his actions, and his body gave out in accountability for the weakness that he brought into it through drug use. .. Anyways, I'm a little annoyed that Post Millennial and a bunch of right-wing media totally missed the mark on the Neely video. The very *first* thing I did when I saw the 2-minute Neely video was search for the full video. It took literally fucking ten minutes to find the video I posted above on May 4th since "BlueRepublik" had already done the heavy lifting of scraping Spanish-Facebook ( http://twitter.com/bluerepublik/status/1653920129871233024 ) (the Facebook link there is broken, but I saved the raw Facebook file, btw). But, Post Millennial treated it as "breaking" news *yesterday* (May 7th) and did not even cite the correct source, a stupidity which was mirrored by Posobiec, TimcastIRL, James Lindsay, Charlie Kirk, Cernovich, and others who presumably do this for a living.
Sam Adams Member	Thu May 11 14:48:13 http://twi...tatus/1656287148583124994?s=20 2 more niggers kill random white man in hate crime. Not on most news.
obaminated Member	Thu May 11 15:57:31 Called it, former soldier is gonna be charged. Fucking new york.
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 16:31:35 He'll probably be indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced too. All because he just had to try and not allow a mentally ill piece of shit to run rampant throughout the subway.
Sam Adams Member	Thu May 11 22:30:08 The far left african DA doesnt need a conviction. He just wants to harm the guy by making him face a trial.
obaminated Member	Thu May 11 23:15:47 Nah, he will get convicted because the jury will be stacked with Tyrones and Rashidas who have already decided he is guilty.
obaminated Member	Thu May 11 23:16:12 I mean, would you ever think you will get justice in a NYC court?
Sam Adams Member	Sat May 13 20:59:08 http://www...ed-through-wall-while-sleeping Nigger kills white man, soros backed prosecutor in austin texas lets him off after just 90 days.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat May 13 21:21:02 “criminally negligent homicide” seems fitting to me the sentencing is weird, being certain days over 5 years, but maybe the judge figured sitting in prison for a long time not very necessary over an accident two years is the max sentence in Texas
obaminated Member	Sat May 13 21:29:39 I mean life in prison is off the table but I think negligent homicide and only 3 months of prison spent over the course of 5 years to be pretty... pointless. I'd consider the very lenient sentence to show how little the prosecutor cared about the case. Was the suspect under any influence at the time? Why would someone of sober mind try to clean a loaded gun?
obaminated Member	Sat May 13 21:31:28 Opps. I should've written, who tries to modify a loaded gun at midnight when they are of sober and clear mind? That's a bit more than negligence id say. Negligence is leaving your gun loaded and available for someone to get to it and accidently discharge it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat May 13 23:10:25 i've read many stories of people shooting themselves while cleaning a gun always 'forgot the one in the chamber', & presumably what happened here
Sam Adams Member	Tue May 16 20:19:13 http://kom...ual-assault-on-college-student Africa strikes again.
obaminated Member	Tue May 23 16:14:33 http://www...eal-Daniel-Penny-ARRESTED.html The uncle of that subway lunatic who called for the brave marine who subdued him to be jailed for murder has been arrested for possession of a knife (I'm assuming illegal and I'm assuming he has a felony track record) as well as multiple stolen credit cards. Really hope Sharpton and aoc help raise funds for his bail.
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