Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump fined $5 million for rape/slander

Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Tue May 09 14:23:05 of Jean Carrol. So I guess DeSantis will have to rape a child to win the nomination.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 14:26:22 he can issue another zero effort batch of fake (NFT) cards to cover it
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 14:35:38 "I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHO THIS WOMAN IS. THIS VERDICT IS A DISGRACE - A CONTINUATION OF THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME!" ~ liar
Paramount Member	Tue May 09 14:55:32 President Biden on Wednesday suggested that if former President Trump opts to run in 2024, he would not make it to the White House for a second term. http://the...ower-again-if-he-runs-in-2024/ Don’t mess with the Biden crime family.
kargen Member	Tue May 09 15:12:59 Not rape. Sexual abuse and slander. I was pretty sure the slander part would be guilty. The abuse was a toss-up until Trump did that video instead of showing up in person. As often happens him going straight to the insults hurt his cause.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 15:19:14 there'd be no defamation if no abuse presumably they believed the pussy grab/fingering part of her story... & only required 51% belief... which was very much backed up by him admitting to pussy grabbing on the Access Hollywood tape then in deposition saying he did believe stars could do it & that he's a star, plus 2 other women testified he did it
Average Ameriacn Member	Tue May 09 15:25:24 WITCH HUNT!
kargen Member	Tue May 09 16:02:00 As I said in the other thread the pussy grabbing comment is always misrepresented. He said women will let you grab them by the pussy. He didn't claim he was grabbing women against their will. The jury for the criminal hearing didn't see enough evidence to say without a doubt he had done these things. The civil jury decided well he could have and well he could have is good enough for a civil case. He should have shown up in person to testify but he didn't take it serious and thought he could joke and insult his way out of it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 16:04:53 (i'll move my comment here too...) "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything." ~ the criminal he's not waiting... plus 'let you do it' means he does it & is claiming they don't resist... how can they 'let him do it' if he's never trying anything?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 16:21:49 also, she admits she was flirting with him beforehand not too hard to imagine a guy as ridiculously full of himself as Trump wouldn't accept that she didn't want it
Paramount Member	Tue May 09 16:38:28 ” He said women will let you grab them by the pussy.” Nah, he was bragging about how he easy he get pussy: ”You grab them by their pussy.”
obaminated Member	Tue May 09 19:22:07 This thread really show how little game Paramount and tw have. Yes. There are some women out there, in the right social setting, who you can spend 5 to 10 minutes talking to before you can start kissing and fondling them. You don't even have to be famous. I had 4 customers while I worked at fucking Verizon wireless I ended up having sex with the same day I met them. It isn't that difficult and they don't have to be complete whores, you just have to carry charisma and energy and yes, you can pretty much grab them by the pussy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 21:17:13 yet if you presume you can do it as a ‘star’ (as he confirmed he believed, and added “unfortunately... or fortunately”), it would be idiotic to assume that 100% of attempts were welcomed by the target
obaminated Member	Tue May 09 21:57:26 Women are attracted to men who are famous, wealthy, powerful and can command respected. Trump had all those in spades.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 22:17:25 unless exactly 100% women are happily surprise groped by stars, that doesn't really matter (& he commands no respect)
obaminated Member	Tue May 09 22:28:30 He got elected president. He may not get your respect because you have the mental maturity of a 16 year old boy (arrested development is funny in your early 20s, it's annoying in your late 20s and pretty pathetic in your 30s ((just a warning)).
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue May 09 22:34:04 funny you can't see Trump's obvious arrested development across every aspect of life his reflexive lying, his childish name-calling, his eating habits, his decorating of his home, his egocentrism, his spelling & language...
Dukhat Member	Wed May 10 03:22:19 Obaminated getting triggered that women have equal rights yet again.
patom Member	Wed May 10 05:01:45 Trump won't pay. He'll beg his MAGA tribe to send in donations to cover the bill.
obaminated Member	Wed May 10 08:49:01 Not triggered little cuckhat, just annoyed that betas like you white knight for vengeful ugly chicks and abuse the legal system. You ain't gonna get laid my guy.
Forwyn Member	Wed May 10 21:13:43 Lol TW since you're a MAGA Twitter addict is this true? @DC_Draino Did you know? The statue of limitations for sexual assault in NY is typically 5-7 years New York even has a 20 year period for civil claims of sexual assault But that wasn’t enough to get Trump - Jean Carroll’s claims go back to the mid 90s So NY amended the law in 2022 to provide unlimited statue of limitations for civil claims of sexual assault and provided a 1 year window where preexisting claims could be litigated That’s where Jean Carroll comes in Funded by a Democrat activist, she filed her claim against Trump in that limited window and even a liberal New York jury wouldn’t find Trump liable for rape People paying attention know what this truly is Another political attack to try and harm Trump before the 2024 election
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 10 21:33:01 her filing this case under that new rule is true... she had a pre-existing case filed when he was still president iirc (that is still unresolved, i believe) "even a liberal New York jury wouldn’t find Trump liable for rape" thus proving they weren't being purposely unfair
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 10 21:38:21 the insinuation the law was made just so this one person could sue Trump is pretty ridiculous though the MeToo movement much more likely related & NY also passed a similar version covering just children prior to it
Forwyn Member	Wed May 10 22:11:26 "#29" Are you suggesting you're the only person who could be this obsessed?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 10 22:42:39 so you really believe NY passed a law just for one lawsuit... half of which she already could do? $3M of the $5M was for the defamation & why not make it apply to criminal part where it would actually matter? Trump paying money won't matter & if you didn't believe all the accusers before you won't now... opinion of Trump does not rest on this incident for anyone
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 05:21:00 tumbleweed the wanderer Wed May 10 21:38:21 "the insinuation the law was made just so this one person could sue Trump is pretty ridiculous though" New York's current attorney general ran on a campaign promise that she would find a crime to prosecute Donald Trump with. The levers of government in that shithole of a state are absolutely being pulled in order to fuck over Trump specifically.
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 05:30:44 In fact this isn't even the first law that New York has amended out of a specific desire to fuck over Trump....they changed their double jeopardy statutes a few years back for the same reason. http://www...rdy-loophole-as-rebuke-to-trum This is banana republic-type shit. In New York, the law exists only to prosecute Democrats' political enemies.
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 05:35:22 From 2018: Why Letitia James Wants to Take on Donald Trump as New York's Attorney General Letitia James wants to be the attorney general who helps take down Donald Trump. “America is in uncharted territory. We are angrier and more deeply divided than we’ve ever been at any point in our history since the Civil War. And at the eye of the storm is Donald Trump, ripping families apart, threatening women’s most basic rights,” she stated. “I’m running for attorney general because I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake.” “I believe that this president is incompetent. I believe that this president is ill-equipped to serve in the highest office of this land. And I believe that he is an embarrassment to all we stand for,” she said. “He should be charged with obstructing justice. I believe that the president of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses and we would join with law enforcement and other attorneys general across the nation in removing this president from office.”" http://now...-wants-to-take-on-donald-trump Sounds like she was really interested in being a dispassionate dispenser of justice...yeah right. A total shithole of a state is New York.
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 05:37:54 (Also note the use of the term "illegitimate president"...prior to 2021, it was absolutely acceptable to question the results of presidential elections in DemocratWorld)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 10:02:12 "New York's current attorney general ran on a campaign promise that she would find a crime to prosecute Donald Trump with" the NY AG doesn't make the laws Trump was NOT even charged in this, it was a civil lawsuit... NOTHING to do with the AG at all a body of 213 people passed a law just so one person could sue Trump for some extra cash? something that person was already doing... you people are conspiratorial nuts this case not even helpful to us sane Trump haters as it let's him continue to claim just being piled on (even though he's 'guilty' on all of it, plus what he was impeached on)... his voters already have long ago decided it's impossible for him to have ever done anything to women (or just don't care... some cultists wear shirts asking him to grab their pussy)
obaminated Member	Thu May 11 10:45:21 It's amusing to see TW, a child who has spent the past 7 years obsessing over trump, to try to downplay the extremes the left would go to in order to hurt trump. Think of it this way. If TW was somehow given an option to send trump to jail but in so doing a random person in america would lose their life savings, does anyone doubt that tw would think twice before sending trump to jail? Thats how unreasonable the left has become.
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 10:48:11 Letitia James has been proposing the relevant legislative packages and New York's legislature is packed with "progressive" far-left supermajorities, so they're basically a rubber stamp for any anti-Trump bullshit. Keep digging that hole tw. I'm rather enjoying this.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 11:25:09 ok, nutbags, believe what you want all judges in Trump cases are corrupt, all juries in Trump cases corrupt, all witnesses corrupt (don't need to specify anti-Trump witnesses, as if pro-Trump you say nothing, as he orders, kinda suggesting they don't have anything exculpatory to provide) he wanted no one to talk on Ukraine, on J6, on documents, on anything plus tampers w/ witnesses who do testify, like publicly threatening Cohen's father right before he testified (& there's been numerous accounts of private contact to pressure/intimidate various people... + they all get death threats from the cult, including the judges & prosecutors, which he never once has discouraged)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 11:55:54 (& of course the entire majority-R FBI is corrupt & conspiring against Trump, as is the CIA now apparently)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 12:04:28 (& & of course the leftist communist marxist extremist National Archives...)
Rugian Member	Thu May 11 15:53:24 Tumbleweed Your side spent half a decade shredding every ounce of its credibility in their mad hate-fueled campaign to take down the evil orange man. You can't very well now expect the rest of us to trust you to be non-biased judges of Trump's behavior. Someone with TDS cannot by definition be impartial in their assessment of Trump.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 16:45:02 "Your side" FBI, CIA, & the National Archives are 'my side'? plus some of the judges he smears were appointed by him ---- and on which investigations was he exonerated? as in shown not to have done what was claimed he did (so not R's merely choosing not to impeach) Russian collusion was about his campaign, not him (& shit -did- get uncovered that sane people should've cared about)... what else you got?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 17:19:28 as for the OP case... you have to decide whether 5 women (that i know of) lied under oath about the behavior Trump admits to doing (+ a couple dozen more women claim it... including at least one very credible R who didn't even want to come forward but friends coaxed her into it) and the story preceding he told prior to admission was a true story of how he took a woman furniture shopping in his efforts to 'move on her like a bitch' & fuck her but failed but he can't possibly have taken a woman clothes shopping to move on her like a bitch?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu May 11 17:21:21 ...to clarify 3 women testified he did that behavior to them, 2 testified that Carroll told them about it at the time (at least that i'm aware of, i didn't monitor the trial)
Cherub Cow Member	Fri May 12 06:59:55 [@AmericazOutlaw]: "Another political attack to try and harm Trump before the 2024 election" Yup. She's not even credible. She's basically another Ford that only midwits who can't read facial expressions will believe. [obaminated]: "try to downplay the extremes the left would go to in order to hurt trump." It's that "Schrödinger's Gun" meme: "Simultaneously useless against the military and a 'weapon of war that no civilian should own'" In this case, the left has been adamant that Trump is Hitler 2.0, constantly floating memes that people should be doing now what they would have done to stop Hitler before he rose to power... but they simultaneously pretend that such logic/rhetoric would *not* result in.. • election fraud, • assassination attempts (likely impending), • laws changed specifically to attack one man, • the weaponization of the FBI, etc. The reality is that they cannot have it both ways. Either Trump is so bad that he deserves 29 psychotic threads, *or* he is not so bad and it's silly to believe that the Regime would bend and break every rule they could to keep him from the presidency. Since the psychotic left cannot say that Trump is "not so bad", then they may as well get to the next stage of the Celebration Parallax where they just admit that they will indeed say or do anything — including the manufacturing of scandals from decades old claims — to prevent any erosion of the rising totalitarian state's power.
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