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Y2A Member	Thu Jun 01 02:14:15 Chances she gets killed in a "Russian opposition" drone strike this year? http://www...ara-reade-defects-russia-biden Tara Reade, who accused Joe Biden of sexual assault, defects to Russia Former Senate staffer who made claim in 2020 appears on Russian media alongside convicted Russian agent in US Maria Butina Martin Pengelly in New York @MartinPengelly Tue 30 May 2023 17.52 EDT Tara Reade, a former Senate staffer who in 2020 accused Joe Biden of sexual assault, has said she had defected to Russia. “I’m still kind of in a daze a bit but I feel very good,” Reade told Sputnik, a Russian press outlet supportive of President Vladimir Putin, while sitting with Maria Butina, a convicted Russian agent jailed in the US but now a member of parliament in Russia. “I feel very surrounded by protection and safety,” Reade said on Tuesday. Now 59, Reade was a staffer for Biden when he was a US senator from Delaware. In 2020, as Biden ran for the Democratic presidential nomination, she claimed that in 1993, in a Senate corridor, he pushed her against a wall and assaulted her. Biden repeatedly denied the accusation. At her press appearance in Russia, Reade was described as a “writer and publicist and former aide to Joe Biden”. Sitting next to Butina, Reade said: “I just really so appreciate Maria and everyone who’s been giving me [protection] at a time when it’s been very difficult to know if I’m safe or not. “I just didn’t want to walk home and walk into a cage or be killed, which is basically my two choices.” Reade recently considered testifying before US House Republicans seeking to use committees to attack Biden and his family. The decision to defect to Russia, she told Sputnik, “was very difficult. I’m not an impulsive person. I really take my time and sort of analyse data points. “And from what I could see based on the cases and based on what was happening and sort of the push for them to not want me to testify, I felt that while [the 2024] election is gearing up and there’s so much at stake, I’m almost better off here and just being safe. My dream is to live in both places, but it may be that I only live in this place and that’s OK.” Biden is running for re-election. As president, he has helped maintain international support for Ukraine as it fights invading Russian forces. Reade said: “To my Russian brothers and sisters, I’m sorry right now that American elites are choosing to have such an aggressive stance. Just know that most American citizens do want to be friends and hope that we can have unity again. “I am enjoying my time in Moscow, and I feel very at home.”
obaminated Member	Thu Jun 01 09:50:47 What does the GOP have to do with Biden sexually harassing women?
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 11:54:46 The left is so crazy that they elect leaders that rampantly rape women and blame the victims for leaving. Mind you, Reade has far more evidence and a veteran case than the one involving Kavanaugh, even objectively. Because "ma Russia" has warped their brains. I winder if y2a admits Russia gate was a hoax yet?
Dukhat Member	Thu Jun 01 12:49:18 She had such an amazing case, she was was caught in blatant lies and committing perjury multiple times.
obaminated Member	Thu Jun 01 13:03:53 Joe was great friends with Ted, I'm willing to believe they made sexual harassing young female staffers a routine. However, only Ted would kill them.
kargen Member	Thu Jun 01 13:27:19 She would rather move to Russia than risk maybe Joe asked Hillary to solve a problem for him.
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 13:50:28 Dukhat, Will you admit that she had a better case than the lady who waited 40 years to remember she was raped?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 01 14:34:17 Ford told people prior (& wasn't rape) & story didn't change (unlike Reade) also, no hoax on 'Russia gate' and weirdly, people don't care about - Trump firing Comey to try to stop the investigation (not ok, even if he believed he was innocent... plus he had no ability whatsoever to vouch for every member of his no-vetting campaign team anyway) - Trump very repeatedly defended Russia on interference (when nothing to do w/ collusion), smearing our intel agencies instead & citing -no- evidence to back him whatsoever (again, NOT related to collusion at all)... so, basically a traitor
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 15:08:53 "Ford told people prior (& wasn't rape) & story didn't change (unlike Reade)" Who? Who did she tell?
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 15:10:49 Tw still believes in russia-gate. Even after any sane person looking at the evidence realizes that people like HRC and CA bug eyes (you know who I mean, kind of bald) literally pushed made up fake stories over and over.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 01 16:10:26 -IG report found the full investigation warranted -Durham report found a preliminary investigation warranted but disagreed on full investigation ∴ fraudosphere concludes no investigation warranted (logic error...) also, no made-up stories pushed over & over (cite them) & if you have a problem w/ made-up stories, you really really really should hate Trump --------------- "Who did she [Ford] tell? " her husband, a therapist, a friend, a coach, & a neighbor... & also came forward before Kavanaugh was the final pick (& was confirmed to be in his friend circle) a pretty lucky find if just a lying saboteur
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 16:31:54 "also, no made-up stories pushed over & over (cite them)" Jesus, how about the fabricated dossier ti start? 1. Tells her husband, srink and friend, then waits 40 years to tell anyone else once the guy is on slate to be a SC judge. 2.Been claiming this since the 90s when it happened and Biden had no.perceivble pots run. Imagine which seems more credible.....
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 01 17:41:34 Ford is more credible... her story isn't even hard to believe, drunk 'boys will be boys' could've been Kavanaugh's defense ------- "how about the fabricated dossier" that's a document, not a story... what claims from it were repeated over & over? (& it was NOT why there was an investigation) & "made-up" is not true even on the dossier
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jun 01 19:03:12 Bomb her.
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 19:05:25 Tw, Only in your warped mind. Most people not blinded having a horse in the race see this. PS...katanji brown Jackson raped me as a toddler....I told my friend, has to be true.
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 19:06:14 But again, you STILL believe russiagate.. You sir will die on that hill.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 01 21:49:29 you'll have to define "russiagate" Russia interfered to help Trump: true Trump doing numerous incredibly unfit things: true criminal collusion not established: true investigation found to be a corrupt hoax: false ----- Reade claiming she was uncomfortable with Biden touching her shoulder & asking her to serve drinks was believable her updated claim of him pushing her against a wall & fingering her, then claiming "You're nothing to me, nothing" much less so... surely Biden has had many many staffers in his lengthy career... yet just one alleging this behavior? having one be a crazy person seems far more likely
kargen Member	Thu Jun 01 22:14:17 Russia interfered to help Russia. Sure eating McDonalds is unfit but still he is much more fit than who replaced him. The investigation wasn't a hoax. It was corrupt and a hoax was used to begin the investigation.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 01 22:57:36 not McDonalds: firing Comey, the countless smears against Mueller & his team (who have been accused of ZERO wrongdoing to the present), his many many many defenses of Russia on interference with ZERO supporting evidence, not even a claim of having supporting evidence, including when standing next to Putin & which included many smears of our intel agencies to defend Russia (again w/ not even a suggestion of evidence) the dossier wasn't a hoax, & it wasn't used to begin the investigation anyway, but as some witnesses were questionable, that's the only thing i can think of that you're calling a hoax (& Steele said publicly -right from the start-, he estimated 70% accuracy... i remember this specifically as is why i didn't pay attention to the contents) anyway, please list what things -specifically- you think were hoaxes & whom created them
Habebe Member	Thu Jun 01 23:20:32 She has been saying this DOCUMENTED since 1993. All sorts of video showing him to be creepy in that particular way. Russia and every other nation on earth did something that impacted elections somehow.... I'll make a big post hopefully tommorow,have my night gloves on now (carpal tunnel)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jun 02 00:07:31 the touching shoulders, hair, etc is on video... (& the fact it's so often on video in public settings, & w/ all ages, suggests not for sexual gratification) that's very different behavior than Reade's (revised) allegations
kargen Member	Fri Jun 02 01:51:14 "the dossier wasn't a hoax" you are correct the dossier was very real. It was also fabricated. It was fabricated to benefit Hillary and at her campaigns request.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jun 02 02:14:33 a very sinister way to describe opposition research & if you wanted fiction why hire people to actually investigate... the same firm Rs hired
kargen Member	Fri Jun 02 19:05:31 I see where you are confused. Opposition research is often an attempt to dig up dirt. The dossier was an attempt to pass lies off as being true.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jun 02 19:18:09 the dossier that was given to the FBI instead of the media? why would you give false info to the FBI? no reason to expect them to announce anything, and if hoping for a leak, it didn’t happen, plus -you- can be the leak... and still didn’t happen so, no, self-evidently you are wrong
kargen Member	Fri Jun 02 19:52:56 "why would you give false info to the FBI?" because you know you have them in your pocket. Have you not been paying attention?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jun 02 20:34:12 ah... of course... and craftily they didn’t leak it, and didn’t frame anyone, so had no effect at all, and no possible way to effect at all genius
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jun 02 20:38:30 also the dossier was NOT the origin NOR focus of the investigation so still absolutely no reason to just fabricate shit and give it to them (which would also be a crime, and no one has accused Steele of doing)... but still ‘let’s commit a crime for absolutely no reason’ is your theory of the case
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jun 02 21:25:24 -the FBI didn’t leak or announce a thing about Trump before 2016 election (though Comey did announce reopening Hillary one... but I understand his reasons) and you fools conclude FBI interfering to hurt Trump —— - no corrupt attempt shown throughout investigation to frame Trump by any report including Durham’s thus more ‘proof’ FBI corruptly after Trump somehow —— - the Twitter Files show absolutely no effort by the FBI to hurt Trump & help Biden so omg, the ‘evidence’ now overwhelming the FBI interfering in elections... with various magats, including the leader, endorsing abolishing the FBI because of all that exactly zero evidence of election interference so fucked up...
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 03 03:22:03 Tt, I want to keep this up til after work.
murder Member	Sat Jun 03 07:33:20 "“I’m still kind of in a daze a bit but I feel very good,” Reade told Sputnik, a Russian press outlet supportive of President Vladimir Putin, while sitting with Maria Butina, a convicted Russian agent jailed in the US but now a member of parliament in Russia." It's amazing how these people keep finding each other all by coincidence. I assume next she'll be doing tiktok videos with Steven Seagal and discussing political persecution with Edward Snowden.
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