Utopia Talk / Politics / shit about P01135809 +his shit assocs#36

tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Aug 30 22:24:30 the saga continues...
obaminated Member	Wed Aug 30 22:27:24 It's liberals who want to control how much you drink and smoke and do their best to control the populations appetite for vices through taxes. Not conservatives.
obaminated Member	Wed Aug 30 22:27:29 You dunce.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Aug 30 22:38:11 is the Biden admin planning to limit people to 2 beers a week? yes or no it was ridiculously obvious bullshit... there's zero attempt to limit & the guy never even said 2 a week, just speculated 'toward Canada's for -recommendations-... (also did you even know the current recommendations say limit of '2 a day'?)
obaminated Member	Wed Aug 30 22:43:47 You really are stupid. What do you think recommendations from government agencies are for? Do you think they are used to mold policy? You are laughably dumb. Stick to your trump obsession.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Aug 30 23:23:16 in what way are the current recommendations of limit of 2 per day affecting anything? the -actual story- would be the "Director of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism predicts recommendations will decrease in 2 years..." (NOT saying to 2 per week, plus they remain recommendations) the truth not terribly sexy... so gotta completely misrepresent it
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Aug 31 05:58:27 Just so you know, tw... Seb said this about you in the Londoners thread: "A sustained and active system of building confirmation bias isn't the same thing as thinking. It is quite the opposite. Though it can require a fair bit of the same kind of activities that may look and feel like similar." Sorry he hates you so much. :( :( It's because you constantly engage in "conspiracy theories" about how Trump is behind all of your world's ills. :( He thinks that your thinking has become dangerously reductive and that the next consequence of your thinking is that "The way to fix the world is to get rid of the bad men." But forget about Seb! He does not have your devotion. :) You love Trump, and Trump loves you. (❤◠‿◠) So keep going! Thread 36 should be exciting. ❤:)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 31 11:50:37 "Fmr Trump lawyer John Eastman says on Fox News that what he wanted on Jan. 6 was for VP Pence to delay certification from happening for a week. Not news but in his own words it sounds like he wanted to impede the certification" [video in post being replied to] http://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1697038553828511766 also in interview clip: weasel-shit Eastman says "some people had urged that VP simply had power to simply reject electors", Ingraham [host] says "i don't believe that", weasel-shit says "i don't either" !!! yeah 'some people'... weasel-shit IS THE GUY who suggested it, written down, & is the ONLY person who ever suggested it & he was the only one w/ Trump & Pence describing these 2 plans (he even admits to this part & called it the 'weaker' plan... of the plans HE wrote)... (& both plans were corrupt & illegal efforts, the 'delay' was to have states just vote on who to give electors to, there was no shocking reveals expected within a week)... you fucking corrupt piece of shit liar...
Rugian Member	Thu Aug 31 14:09:57 Kudos on the title. Some prime catnip for you: "For nearly seven hours last April, lawyers with the New York attorney general’s office grilled Trump over his company’s business practices and his children’s roles within the Trump Organization. When asked about how his position changed within the Trump Organization when elected president, Trump said he was “very busy” and considered the presidency “the most important job in the world, saving millions of lives.” “I think you would have nuclear holocaust, if I didn’t deal with North Korea,” Trump said. “I think you would have a nuclear war, if I weren’t elected. And I think you might have a nuclear war now, if you want to know the truth.”" http://the...-he-averted-nuclear-holocaust/ Greatest president ever.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 31 14:54:52 yep, his accomplishments according to him are heroically legendary <toast>to Bill Brasky!</toast>
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 31 15:06:36 People forget that trump did effectively neuter north Korea and Iran during his presidency, really didn't have to worry because everyone else thought trump wouldn't hesitate to use nukes. Remember when the sebs and tws of the world panicked when trump openly refused to take nukes off the table? And the sebs and tws warned that trump would cause a world war? And then no wars happened under trump. Under biden the first war between European nations in Europe since ww2 erupts. Amazing.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 31 15:59:49 "People forget that trump did effectively neuter north Korea and Iran during his presidency" yeah, i did forget that... still having trouble remembering it, in fact... i recall Trump pulling out of an Iran deal that he demonstrated no understanding of (right after viewing a powerpoint made for a child by Netanyahu)... & i recall deranged threats to Kim on Twitter before later falling in love & ever since having nothing but praise for Kim (& only attacks for S Korea)...
Rugian Member	Thu Aug 31 16:43:46 "i recall Trump pulling out of an Iran deal that he demonstrated no understanding of" You know who else demonstrated no understanding of that deal? The entirety of the Republican Party as well as a significant number of Democrats, who all thought that it was appeasement that would do nothing but kick the can down the road. Trump was hardly in unique company on that one.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 31 17:19:43 oh, he was unique... i know he kept repeating the same two points about the deal, both false every time he said them (which was many times) it was an absurd 'presidency'
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 31 17:52:27 An absurd presidency that included largely global peace and economic growth despite half the country screaming that the sky was falling and perpetually claiming trump was a Russian agent.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 31 19:04:31 i missed world peace occurring & the limited economic growth from unpaid for tax cuts causing large rise in debt but yeah, luckily the unfit clown, who couldn't be bothered to learn factual information & liked siding w/ our enemies, was largely kept in check by adults (though still heaps of nationally embarrassing moments)
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 31 19:52:18 Unprecedented peace in the middle east thanks to the Abraham accords...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Aug 31 20:49:44 which Trump couldn’t answer even the most basic questions about thus obviously & unsurprisingly had no role in (plus not like it involved the parties that most matter)
obaminated Member	Thu Aug 31 21:47:57 Yeah, it only happened under his administration and signed in the white house. Trump had nothing to do with it.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Sep 01 04:55:13 [obaminated]: "Remember when the sebs and tws of the world panicked when trump openly refused to take nukes off the table? And the sebs and tws warned that trump would cause a world war? And then no wars happened under trump. Under biden the first war between European nations in Europe since ww2 erupts. Amazing." Yep. One reason they hate Trump is because he's not helping to fast-track WWIII. We're currently back on track, but Trump could interrupt that if elected. Biden is pretty psyched about starting it before the election, though, since then the uni-party won't have to worry about elections at all. Trump is incredibly fit for office, especially if the comparison is to Biden, who is a puppet and pedo who literally shits himself daily.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 12:18:35 Dominic Pezzola, who is the Proud Boy on video famously smashing through the Capitol window w/ a riot shield grabbed from a cop, got a 10 year sentence... [~half of the sentencing guidelines, but seems plenty to me] his wife had testified how he had "started drinking very heavily and inundated himself with Fox News day and night" prior to sentencing he claimed "I stand before you today as a changed and humble man" & other bullshit but on way out of court raised his fist & shouted "Trump won!" so fuck him anyway, that's your brain on Fox/Trump
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 12:27:39 His biggest mistake was being born white. He should've been born black and robbed an Adidas store during the summer of 2020.
Rugian Member	Fri Sep 01 12:31:05 There are literal murderers who are serving shorter sentences. Holy shit.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 14:41:23 attacking the Capitol in efforts to overturn an election is more serious than looting an Adidas store
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 14:42:59 Do you think he was trying to overturn the election, tw?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 15:32:32 100% sure of it... what do -you- think he was doing? just wanted to get into the chambers to say 'i think Trump won, continue on, bye'?
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 16:59:30 Yeah, I think he wanted to exactly what he did. Trespass, make a scene and then go home. Why the fuck do you let the legacy media brainwash you so thoroughly that you actually think a real coup was attempted when people dressed up in costumes and unarmed wandered into the capitol building? You are so useless.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 17:05:48 Even the capitol police knew it wasn't a serious threat to democracy. Or do you think they surrendered the capitol without firing a shot to a crowd of dozens of individuals armed with cellphones and water bottles? I hate that we have allowed liberals to so thoroughly distort what happened that day. Trump will make everything right. That's really the best we can hope for, trump to return and undo all the idiotic shit the left has done over the past 3 years.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 17:05:50 my opinion isn't from media... attacking cops & smashing windows to gain entry just to 'make a scene'? that wouldn't be extremely obviously criminal (& to serve no purpose at all)? he probably wasn't stupid enough to think -just- the attack would be enough (though he's a cultist so who knows)... but fuckhead cult leader was tweeting out how States wanted to change their electors & acting like just needed a bit more time & needed to stop that vote they -definitely- wanted the outcome changed... definitely
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 17:10:08 also many shouts of "1776!"... what does that number mean to you? (plus the Proud Boys in particular have evidence of that being the goal... though fairly obvious)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 17:39:23 here's the window smash video http://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1346904244008456193 one military cosplayer w/ a baseball bat (i'm sure his intentions were peaceful)... & sounds like chants of 'kill' to me at end
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 18:23:12 "Attacking police" Lol yeah, they were out for blood on the 6th of January. The dc police lost scores of men to pitchforks and flaming torches, doubled wounded sent to hospitals.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 19:01:42 how would just 'making a scene' inside the Capitol be any more productive than just protesting outside? how would it be worth the obvious extreme criminality? (& yeah, police were attacked, how you still doubt this is scary... & this guy grabbed the riot shield from a cop under attack)
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 19:04:48 The DC police are in large part to blame for what happened. They did not put in any effort to the control the situation despite being there and the "rioters" simply walked into the capital building and just kept going because no one bothered to stop them. The DC police knew it wasn't a serious situation but should've been forceful to control the crowd because it ended up looking incredibly embarrassing for everyone involved and fueled idiots like tw into think it actually was an attempted coup. Fuck, trump was so close to securing a life long presidency.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 21:05:26 ok, so you have no idea what happened... how did over 100 cops get injured? do you also believe Trump himself wasn’t still trying to overturn? do you also stupidly believe (like CC) he just wanted Pence to do what GOP members already were going to do? (object and vote with full knowledge it would fail in both houses) why was Giuliani calling senators after attack urging them to prevent the vote still? yes, the cult leader and cultists were still trying to overturn the election... with several militia members convicted of seditious conspiracy, not easy to do
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 21:42:49 The DC police union claims 140 police were "injured". In reality, 15 went to the hospital, 1 from a mild heart attack. Hardly an insurrection.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 21:43:43 And I'm purposely avoiding comparing the amount of police injured in any of the BLM riots because in reality you don't give a shit about police being harmed. You only care about what serves your narrative. You degenerate.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 01 22:10:32 do you have an example of a BLM rioter who attacked cops or burned a building who was -identified & caught- & just let go? & even if you could find one (i doubt it, especially on arson... but -maybe- you could find someone who threw an object at a cop or something)... so what... the wrong act is letting that person go, not "well, their* side got some, so we get some too" (*not that they were even acting on some Democrat issue) this constant lean on the BLM-related riots is stupid (especially so when talking of the Trump indictments... he was NOT indicted for inciting the riot (despite fucking asshole Fox/GOP pretending that would be the issue for weeks ahead of time), yet he -was- way more culpable for it than any Dems who made BLM comments after people were already rioting)
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 01 23:50:22 Why are you so stupid? http://www...oters-vandals-charges-dropped/
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 02 00:59:49 "looters and vandals" i said arsonists & cop attackers for a reason attacking cops (& overthrowing the gov't) more serious than looting & vandalism (however, same point about NONE of it mattering applies... plus not sure why you'd want to waste your 'free crimes' tokens on Trump rioters anyway)
Cherub Cow Member	Sat Sep 02 03:58:06 [Rugian]: "There are literal murderers who are serving shorter sentences. Holy shit." Yep. It's absolutely deranged. That's anarcho-tyranny for you. Their 2020 BLM and Antifa insurrectionists were given free reign, with prosecutors dropping and decreasing charges since they too were part of the criminal conspiracy. And as we've seen, the old saying of, "Imagine if the roles were reversed!" does not hold sway for totalitarians who feel their grip tightening around the reigns of power. They are no longer concerned with equality under the law, since equity for their slave castes has proven more fruitful. And once they have the pretext of a forever emergency, those slaves will not be able to stop what they voted to put into action through their masters. The roles will be irreversible, and all will be subjugated. Or so the totalitarians hope! :p .. Anyways, tw has talked so much about Trump being the bad boy, but since tw loves Trump so much, let's talk about what brought these future newlyweds together. (❤◠‿◠) Name three things you like about Trump, tw! I'll start: 1) He's tall! 6' 3" is a good height! 2) He's funny! Clips of him talking always get me laughing. ❤:) 3) He's against the world totalitarian state — very cool! :) You guys go ahead. :)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 02 12:08:08 "Alina Habba [a Trump TV lawyer] told Newsmax on Friday that the four cases prosecutors have lined up against Donald Trump are not about the merits, and they're not about winning — it's all about "tying him up" to keep him off the campaign trail." http://twitter.com/NEWSMAX/status/1697950005838086387 just blast that same message out multiple times a day, every day & people believe it (apparently) who cares that he's clearly guilty on docs w/ just obvious demonstrable lies as defenses, & nobody is even saying he didn't do everything in the J6 cases (just not mentioning the details... so much clear corrupt acts like w/ the stooge AG & the facts around the fake electors)
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 02 12:44:51 http://www...ers-charges-citations-analysis Gee thousands of charges dropped. Wonder why
obaminated Member	Sat Sep 02 12:49:30 http://nyp...orge-floyd-protests-across-us/ Hundreds of police suffered real injuries during the real riots of 2020. Remember those days? I sure as fuck remember seeing a fucking mass of lawless rioters demolishing long Beach and LA, all of it happening less than 20 miles away. Those were real threats to our society. How do we know? Because we saw real damage and destruction, we saw thousands of people ransacking stores and we saw mob violence rob random people at the wrong place at the wrong time. And we needed the fucking national guard to put them down. But tw wants to pretend like the Jan 6th kerfuffle was a serious attack on our nation's democracy with the intent of overturning the 2020 election. Get fucked you weasel.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 02 15:43:20 ok then... some BLMers got off easy (though many got off as they couldn't prove the crime) but you're acting like even the most violent were just let go... no, they weren't identified/caught & i didn't approve of any of the leniency... but none of this means Trump rioters should get free passes (even if the BLMers were fighting for Biden or some Dem cause, which they weren't... & it wasn't for Marxism either)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 03 22:17:17 the obviously dangerous shitbag 'retweeted' this: "The Democrat Party and its media are literally destroying the country with help from NeverTrumpers in academia. The Constitution and rule of law are being eviscerated right before our eyes. There’s no way tens of millions of Americans will accept a Biden or Democrat victory of any kind in 2024. And these saboteurs not only intend to steal the presidency but the House and Senate too." how the fuck does that idiotic 'party' not see the danger of this completely lawless fraud...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 03 22:50:07 cult leader quoting cultist: "“The sit-down with Tucker Carlson has made history as the most-watched interview ever recorded.” Reed Cooper, DCENQUIRER Thank you!" Reed Cooper's twitter profile pic is a photo of him w/ Trump, his background is photos of him w/ Trump & his pinned tweet is a photo of him w/ Trump (him wearing a 'sexiest man alive' shirt w/ Trump's face on it) Reed Cooper's DC Enquirer profile is "Reed Cooper is an 18-year-old die-hard supporter of President Trump. He has written pro-Trump news articles for his own news website and now writes for the DC Enquirer." seems like a quality get for that outlet
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 03 22:52:46 guy who very clearly regularly makes shit up & thus is unfit for office... "...RINO Governor Brian Kemp has lost control of violent crime in Atlanta, and Fulton County as a whole. To walk the streets is a death sentence [DOUBT IT], it has NEVER been worse [VERY FALSE], yet he wants to protect this incompetent prosecutor. Number 1 in violence per capita in U.S. [COMPLETELY MADE-UP] Sad days for the Great State of Georgia!"
murder Member	Mon Sep 04 08:13:26 "Number 1 in violence per capita in U.S." Tied with D.C. ;o)
Rugian Member	Mon Sep 04 08:30:07 Labor Day weekend violence in Atlanta • Sunday: A woman is in critical condition after she was shot during what police said was a drive-by shooting at a Shell gas station on Whitehall Road in Mechanicsville. • Sunday: Three adults and two children were found shot at a home on Adkins Road. They're healing at the hospital. APD said the accused 18-year-old shooter, shot himself dead. • Saturday: A valet was shot and killed on Piedmont Road in Buckhead after he was trying to stop an attempted car break-in. • Saturday: An argument over an eviction led to one woman shot and killed on Margaret Place. • Saturday: A man was gunned down and killed Saturday at an apartment complex on Magnolia Way. • Saturday: One man shot dead on Fairburn Road. • Saturday: One man was shot and killed on Norwood Road. • Saturday: Two people were shot on Orlando Street. http://www...66-fc61-4fef-a239-748ed97e2944
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Sep 04 11:19:51 were they the only people who walked the streets? same outlet: "According to the agency's latest data available, homicides are down 54 percent and aggravated assaults are down 18 percent from 2022." http://www...97-ca77-4441-8b86-3dd5318e673b so show me where Trump got that it's "never been worse" AND where he got "number 1 in violence per capita in U.S." and do you really still doubt he just pulls shit out of his ass?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Sep 04 11:31:35 fuckhead posted this DailyMail article: "Donald Trump's face is spotted in Stonehenge's ancient pillars" "Visitors to Stonehenge were left baffled by an image of the former US president" (citing literally no one) but yeah, not a cult, just him & Jesus supposedly appearing on objects... the alleged Trump visage: http://i.d...9-image-a-15_1693676004876.jpg
obaminated Member	Mon Sep 04 12:26:35 Haha it does look like him
murder Member	Mon Sep 04 14:58:11 Spitting image. :o)
obaminated Member	Tue Sep 05 03:13:54 http://www...r-bedminster-bikers-trump.html Looking pretty fucking fit.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 06 14:22:54 fucking moron: " Was just watching Mike Pence make up stories about me, which are absolutely false. I never said for him to put me before the Constitution—I don’t talk that way, and wouldn’t even think to suggest it. Mike failed badly on calling out Voter Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election, and based on the fact that he is at approximately 2% in the Polls, with no money or support, he obviously did the wrong thing. His advisors have led him down a very bad path! " either still unable to process that Pence isn't claiming to be quoting Trump but just describing his demands or more likely just pretending to be disputing Pence while not doing it at all... as he's a disgusting fraud liar who definitely did everything alleged & no one disputes it (including him)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 06 21:50:36 child: " Ann Coulter, the washed up political “pundit” who predicted my win in 2016, then went unbearably crazy with her demands and wanting to be a part of everything, to the consternation of all, has gone hostile and angry with every bit of her very “nervous” energy. Like many others, I just didn’t want her around - She wasn’t worth the trouble! Has been Ann Coulter is a Stone Cold Loser!!! " her response: " Trump begged me to come to Bedminster this week, I said only if I could record a substack with him, but the GIGANTIC PUSSY is too afraid of me, so instead he did this. "
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 06 22:15:33 Ann Coulter is yesterday's news.
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 06 22:16:59 Also she uses substack. Jesus. Talk about picking the wrong horse. Should've been smart like tucker and stuck with twitter/X.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 07 15:23:58 Peter Navarro (of Trump admin) has been convicted of contempt of congress... he had cited executive privilege for refusing to provide info when subpoenaed, but Trump is the one who had to exert it & he never did (was quite common for his idiot pawns to claim it on his behalf when he never actually used it for whatever reason) but i'm sure Navarro will be too cult loyal to blame Trump
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 07 16:26:03 this article is posted on Trump's spewing feed of garbage: "A MAGA idol: Why Trump’s un-Christian behavior makes him a hero to Conservative Christians" i can see why he liked headline, but includes these portions: " ... [pastor] Leake said many of his congregation members who strongly support Trump “are not our most dedicated members.” “Anytime we’ve seen someone go full on MAGA, we lose them,” Leake added. “Attendance and involvement drops. Giving drops. It’s all consuming — just as with any other idol.” ... Robert Franklin, professor of moral leadership at Emory University’s Candler School of Theology in Atlanta, said Trump benefits from a perception among some of his followers that he is suffering on their behalf. “The more he complains of persecution, the more people dig in to support him, and for a few, fight for him and make personal sacrifices (of money and freedom) for his advancement,” Franklin said via email. Franklin also noted that some evangelicals, since early in Trump’s presidency, have likened him to Cyrus the Great, the Persian king who, according to the Bible, enabled Jews to return to Israel from their exile in Babylon. “This is a powerful trope, the bad man who makes good things possible, and is hence praised as a hero,” Franklin said. “Unfortunately, under this narrative, Trump can literally do no wrong. His wrong is right. No other politician gets that kind of pass.” [[^ yet that guy is a big Trump fan ]] ... The embrace of Trump is really, finally a cynical calculation concerned with power, one that has the thinnest of possible Scriptural justifications,” [Catholic scholar] Millies added. ... Back in February 2017, just two weeks after Trump’s inauguration, the Rev. Peter Daly – a retired Catholic priest of the Archdiocese of Washington – wrote a column for the National Catholic Reporter titled “Donald Trump’s gospel is not the Gospel of Jesus.” In the piece, Daly depicted Trump as an uncharitable bully, prone to lying, lacking in empathy and tolerance. “He sees every opponent as someone to be shouted down or roughed up,” Daly wrote. “He is not a peacemaker.” Six years later, Daly tries to comprehend why so many conservative Christians remain in Trump’s camp despite behavior and rhetoric “that are antithetical to everything they stand for.” ... “Christians begin with the clear biblical truth that no sinful human being has a perfect character, but even as we grade presidents on something of a curve, some stand out as particularly lacking in character,” Mohler said. “Donald J. Trump is certainly one of those presidents.” “I do not want Donald J. Trump to be the 2024 Republican nominee,” Mohler added. “There is simply too much baggage … A statesman would realize that fact and make way for someone else to lead. That does not appear likely.” ... " http://www...-hero-conservative-christians/ obvious cult & even though Trump declares Dems are trying to destroy god/religion/america/etc, it's Trump doing those things
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 08 00:46:19 Fox tweet/article: "Liberal media freak out as Ted Cruz drinks beer on air, slams alcohol regs" http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1700003782505939319 there are no alcohol regs to slam... (a guy merely speculated that in 2 years -recommendations- for consumption may decrease) total garbage outlet (Faux) & person (Cruz)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 08 11:46:35 constant fucking liar: " I can’t believe that these Fascist Monsters have so viciously gone after the great Peter Navarro for defying the totally partisan January 6th Unselect Committee of political Hacks and Thugs, who refused to go after Crazy Nancy Pelosi, and the reasons she and the Mayor of D.C. REJECTED 10,000 soldiers, which would have easily stopped any future security problem. His testimony wouldn’t have mattered, anyway, because the “Committee” QUICKLY and ILLEGALLY DELETED & DESTROYED ALL EVIDENCE & FINDINGS! " [No, they didn't...] " Page 2: There was MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, evidence and findings that the Unselect Committee DID NOT WANT SEEN. This deleted and destroyed evidence is a big part of my defense, and the defense of many others. They should be the ones who are prosecuted, not Peter Navarro who, by the way, was single greatest trade negotiator against China, who paid the U.S. hundreds of billions of dollars during the Trump Administration (never paid ten cents before us!). Only China is celebrating the Navarro conviction! " the 'destroyed' evidence claim is just they didn't keep videos of all 1000+ depositions, but still have the written transcripts... he's lied about this multiple times, such as: " Is Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor who is continuously overturned due to his unchecked and insane aggression, investigating the political Hacks & Thugs of the highly partisan January 6th Unselect Committee for tampering with, deleting, and destroying highly Confidential & Classified documents, pictures, tapes, evidence, and all forms of other important information? If not, WHY? I fully believe it is because the evidence in question destroys his Fake, Election Interfering, case. DISMISS SUIT! " & " The highly partisan January 6th Committee of political Hacks and Thugs has been found to have DELETED & DESTROYED all evidence and findings of the recently ended Committee of TRUMP persecution and hatred. This is a highly illegal act to, among other things, protect Crazy Nancy Pelosi for her grossly incompetent, or intentional, actions regarding her weak and inadequate response to security measures taken at the Capitol, for which she was responsible. This evidence is now criminally destroyed! " drama queen fucking liar... "deleting, and destroying highly Confidential & Classified documents, pictures, tapes, evidence, and all forms of other important information" ^ completely made-up... a total embarrassment to the nation & he will be exactly like this if elected again just as he was the entire time last time... wake the fuck up, cultists
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 13 11:50:24 dumbfuck: " ...Recently I did an interview with Tucker Carlson, rather than the debate, which turned out to have more “views,” at 265,000,000, than any interview ever done (The debate had 11,000,000). Second was the famous Oprah interview of Michael Jackson, which did far less... " "views" have no correlation to TV ratings... (also it occurred to me the Twitter 'view' count is just on the post, not the embedded video, thus -definitely- doesn't require you to watch a single second of the video... beyond also not claiming to be unique views... or human views...)
obaminated Member	Wed Sep 13 12:01:54 No, a view on Twitter requires the video play for at least 2 seconds. Presumably people who start a video will watch more than 2 seconds. So that interview was like 3 weeks ago. And you are still obsessing over the number of views it has and desperately trying to find a way to discredit it. Maybe trump and tucker are immensely popular figures and maybe people will check out what they say by the merit of who they are? I do not know why you are so desperate to dismiss an interview that was seen around the world, discussed on every news network in the states and probably the western world and has ample evidence that it was one of the most popular videos of this year, certainly. It's sad. Accept that trump got a W and move on.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 13 12:54:42 "No, a view on Twitter requires the video play for at least 2 seconds" i don't see how... the "View" count is on the post which is text & attached video (at least the extraordinarily clearly false "265 million" view number, maybe other metrics tracked for the poster) it is fucking obvious 265 million humans did NOT watch that interview... why in the hell would so many do so... nothing remarkable about timing or content "you are still obsessing over the number of views" your fuckhead chosen leader of the country also doing so... & the only reason i am... the leader of the country shouldn't be a stupid fuckhead mentally-ill child-minded criminal... just my opinion
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 13 14:10:46 the disgrace: " DeSanctimonious Poll numbers are Crashing. Is it that he is a not very skilled politician, or perhaps his not so long ago fight against Farmers, Social Security, and MediCare??? Or maybe it’s the lack of loyalty to the man who took the DeSanctus failing campaign, and through a strong Endorsement, got him elected. Whatever it is, few have ever witnessed a drop so fast and so severe. It’s a beautiful thing, isn’t it? " celebrating the downfall of the apparent piece of garbage he wants credit for getting elected... (w/ absurd over the top idiocy as ALWAYS)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 13 14:13:36 traitor: "It’s all happening, even worse than anyone projected. President Vladimir Putin of Russia is using Crooked Joe Biden’s illegal Banana Republic style treatment of his Political Opponent, who is beating him badly in the Polls, to condemn America and all of the good things it once stood for. The whole World is watching as the USA is being torn apart by dreams of Election Interference!" yes... let's go w/ Putin & Trump's narrative, & ignore how Trump incredibly clearly committed felonies w/ complete proof & Trump offering up only easily provable lies & nonsense as defenses yet a whole 'party' can't notice it... & their media can't talk about it... only mislead about it...
Rugian Member	Wed Sep 13 14:32:39 Here's CNN of all sources noting that the senile idiot "president" just lied about visiting the WTC site the day after 9/11. Classy. Posting this here because if Trump had done this tumbleweed would definitely be raging about it. "In a speech to service members and first responders on the anniversary of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, President Joe Biden falsely claimed that he was at Ground Zero the day after the Twin Towers fell in Manhattan. Biden, returning from a whirlwind trip to Asia, said in his Monday remarks at a military base in Alaska: “I join you on this solemn day to renew our sacred vow: never forget. Never forget. We never forget. Each of us – each of those precious lives stolen too soon when evil attacked. Ground Zero in New York – I remember standing there the next day, and looking at the building. And I felt like I was looking through the gates of hell, it looked so devastating because of the way – from where you could stand.” Facts First: Biden was not at Ground Zero the day after 9/11. He actually went to Ground Zero nine days after the attacks." http://www...round-zero-next-day/index.html
Rugian Member	Wed Sep 13 14:34:23 That same article documents a history of Biden making up entire stories from thin air; its like lying is an addiction for him. Is this the "appropriate type of lying" that you tried to defend Biden on tumbleweed? "It’s possible, of course, that Biden genuinely misremembered when his visit to Ground Zero occurred. As president, though, he has repeatedly made false claims about his past. He did it three times in a single speech last month – falsely claiming to have witnessed a bridge collapse in Pittsburgh in 2022 (he actually visited the site more than six hours after the collapse), falsely claiming his grandfather had died just days prior to his own birth at the same hospital (his paternal grandfather died more than a year prior in another state), and again repeating a long-debunked false story about a supposed conversation with an Amtrak conductor who was deceased at the time the story would have had to take place. In 2021 and 2022, he falsely claimed to have been arrested during a civil rights protest (he had previously said merely that an officer had taken him home from a protest), falsely claimed he “used to drive an 18-wheeler” (the White House said he once had a job driving a different vehicle, a school bus), falsely claimed to have visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where worshippers were killed in a 2018 mass shooting (he had spoken to its rabbi by phone but had not gone), falsely claimed to have visited Iraq and Afghanistan as president (he made repeated visits as a senator and vice president but not as president), told a false story involving a late relative and the Purple Heart, and falsely described his interactions decades ago with late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Sep 13 15:00:14 "Biden was not at Ground Zero the day after 9/11. He actually went to Ground Zero nine days after the attacks" oh no! he definitely purposely lied about it as that makes sooo much difference, the site wouldn't have looked just as devastated or anything... whereas Trump claimed to have hired many workers to help clear debris with absolutely no record of it & the people in charge saying it wouldn't have made sense to have occurred (& bragged about now having tallest building... which was also false) but yeah, i saw that fact check... nowhere near what Trump does (& Trump has soooo many other problems beyond his habitual lying)... so yeah, Biden & probably anyone on the planet, still gets my vote over Trump though this could finally be the year for a 3rd party candidate if the non-cultist Rs & their media are able to break away from the dangerous fraud (shouldn't be a problem on the Dem side as Biden NOT a cult leader at all)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 00:30:56 obvious dangerous cult leader: " Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton was easily re-elected last November, but now establishment RINOS are trying to undo that Election with a shameful impeachment of him. Who would replace Paxton, one of the TOUGHEST & BEST Attorney Generals in the Country? Could it be a Democrat, or even worse, a RINO? The voters have decided who they want! Democrats are feeling very good right now as they watch, as usual, the Republicans fight & eat away at each other. It’s a SAD day in the Great State of Texas! " fuckhead YET AGAIN (& flat out saying) Democrats are better than RINOs (which now means just not loyal to Trump)... who fucking cares about conservative views & policies... & Paxton a corrupt piece of shit, so that's why fellow R's impeaching him... (but of course, Trump is completely lawless, & has no issue w/ corrupt criminals so long as loyal to him) and the whole 'party' will yet again not notice anything here...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 01:09:20 well we seem to have a page count for the 300+ docs Trump took (...& refused to return... & many of which he hid from his own lawyer's search): 3,500 pages (per a court filing) ...& no, he didn't maybe declassify them secretly & then just be allowed to take them for some reason... a totally fucking idiotic theory that the 'party' was accepting... & continues to accept really, even w/ him changing it to even more idiotic 'automatic declassification' which obviously doesn't exist thus is definitely false... beyond being so ridiculously stupid & idiotic... and the whole 'party' will yet again not notice anything here...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 14:26:16 Trump to Megyn Kelly (in an interview w/ surely 10 billion viewers): "I’m allowed to have these documents. I’m allowed to take these documents, classified or not classified. Frankly, when I have them, they become unclassified. People think you have to go through a ritual. You don’t, at least in my opinion." http://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1702384515207897396 another false claim... which should upset R's for lying... & also should upset R's for what he's claiming to believe is true: that he can just take whatever he wants plus it somehow declassifies w/ not a soul knowing about it, thus meaningless to be supposedly declassified total idiocy & admitted recklessness
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 14:35:18 he does have lawyers yet he keeps saying ^that same shit, so i have to assume that's the defense they are going to go with: just saying he didn't understand the law & hope a juror is sympathetic 'oh, i can't just take any gov't doc i wanted when leaving?? wow, that's so confusing...' so stupid yet, the fucking idiot 'party' -is- indeed buying that nonsense... he keeps saying it & the whole 'party' line is that there's nothing to the charges
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 16:57:41 Megyn Kelly was actually fairly tough... maybe 10 billion -should- watch here she's asking what he was waving around during that audio of him showing classified doc (where he stupidly then claimed it was just newspaper articles which made no sense) http://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/status/1702386359548153877 the liar fraud flailing around quite a bit (for anyone able to notice)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 17:10:29 ok, i don't endorse the interview as a whole... she lets him spew constant bullshit w/o challenging guess she just wanted a few tough spots to get attention
murder Member	Thu Sep 14 17:43:46 Did Megyn have blood "coming out of her wherever"?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 18:22:45 good memory :p
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 18:40:28 another decent Megyn Kelly bit, her asking about his lawyer certifying that all docs returned then FBI finding more (her not mentioning him purposely moving boxes though, so kinda weak): http://twitter.com/KevinlyFather/status/1702398553426108520 ^him clearly lying yet again... 'i don't know the timing on that'... really??? you're unaware the subpoena was before the raid? um... you're a pathetically obvious fucking liar & avoiding having any explanation beyond 'i had a right to have the docs' (which he didn't)
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 14 19:53:24 1.2 milly already
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Sep 14 21:29:29 this is the full interview video link that Megyn posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA5Z5WTcpIg (again, i don't particularly recommend it given how much she lets slide... though does have a few decent moments)
obaminated Member	Thu Sep 14 23:22:58 I'm actually surprised at her sub count. It seems like youtube is her primary platform for her podcast so you'd think it'd get more than 1.5 mil.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 00:20:11 seems an impressive number to me... especially given she fell out of favor w/ the cult leader (thus cult) ...also note her YouTube video is showing 150k views at the moment whereas her tweet w/ the link is at 1.6 Mil views... it's almost like every single person (& bot) seeing the tweet in their feeds isn't watching the video... (plus view counts have never claimed to be unique viewers) (thus completely obviously nowhere near 260 million people watched the Tucker interview as fuckhead keeps bragging... & why non-mentally-ill-idiot Tucker isn't bragging it himself)
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 15 00:35:49 1.5 million is pretty low for someone with her profile, but I have to admit once she got taken off fox and was replaced she was pretty forgettable. Unlike tucker who fox still can't seem to replace. Also, her low view count on YouTube just shows how little traffic her channel gets. Additionally articles are likely linking to or using her videos code from Twitter and not YouTube. Because YouTube auto embeds ads and Twitter doesn't. As far as I know.
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 15 00:36:24 (I'm basing this off the vast majority of articles source to Twitter videos and not YouTube. I'm assuming the ad embeds are the reason.)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 01:07:55 Lauren Boebert kicked out of a theater after multiple complaints of "vaping, singing, causing a disturbance"... video: http://twitter.com/KyleClark/status/1702498583755538598 ...her also shown getting tit groped
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 15 02:47:41 He got his dick sucked for sure.
Rugian Member	Fri Sep 15 08:50:52 tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Aug 30 22:38:11 it was ridiculously obvious bullshit tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Aug 30 23:23:16 the truth not terribly sexy... so gotta completely misrepresent it tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Aug 31 11:50:37 you fucking corrupt piece of shit liar tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Aug 31 14:54:52 his accomplishments according to him are heroically legendary tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Aug 31 17:19:43 he kept repeating the same two points about the deal, both false tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Aug 31 19:04:31 couldn't be bothered to learn factual information tumbleweed the wanderer Fri Sep 01 12:18:35 prior to sentencing he claimed ... & other bullshit tumbleweed the wanderer Fri Sep 01 22:10:32 fucking asshole Fox/GOP pretending that would be the issue tumbleweed the wanderer Sat Sep 02 12:08:08 just obvious demonstrable lies tumbleweed the wanderer Sun Sep 03 22:17:17 this completely lawless fraud tumbleweed the wanderer Sun Sep 03 22:52:46 guy who very clearly regularly makes shit up & thus is unfit for office tumbleweed the wanderer Mon Sep 04 11:19:51 he just pulls shit out of his ass tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Sep 06 14:22:54 he's a disgusting fraud liar tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 07 16:26:03 Trump's spewing feed of garbage tumbleweed the wanderer Fri Sep 08 00:46:19 total garbage tumbleweed the wanderer Fri Sep 08 11:46:35 constant fucking liar ... drama queen fucking liar ... completely made-up tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Sep 13 12:54:42 extraordinarily clearly false tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Sep 13 14:13:36 Trump offering up only easily provable lies & nonsense tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Sep 13 15:00:14 also false tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 14 01:09:20 thus is definitely false tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 14 14:26:16 another false claim... which should upset R's for lying tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 14 14:35:18 he keeps saying ^that same shit tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 14 16:57:41 the liar fraud tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 14 17:10:29 she lets him spew constant bullshit tumbleweed the wanderer Thu Sep 14 18:40:28 him clearly lying yet again ... pathetically obvious fucking liar --------- Also tumbleweed: tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Sep 13 15:00:14 Biden habitually lying isn't a big deal --------- That last one might be a bit of a paraphrase...but holy shit. Tumbleweed, you cannot possibly waive off Biden's serial lying as a trivial matter, when Trump & associates' (alleged) lying is SUCH A BIG PIECE of your argument for calling him "unfit."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 11:32:23 your list of Biden lies covers 3 years to get just a handful (& not lies that matter to, or affect anyone) but no, i don't approve of it, and Biden has never been my preferred candidate (not last cycle, not this cycle) but Biden DEFINITELY my pick over Trump (the dangerous, mentally-ill, arrested-development-child-minded, zero-intellectual-curiousity, fully-detached-from-truth piece of shit who very clearly makes shit up REGULARLY... & is a cult leader & criminal) --------- the fact YOU said they should have just let Trump keep the unknown (in quantity & content) classified docs rather than resort to a raid (after he wouldn't return when told he legally had to, nor with subpoena) still bothers me greatly... you were never a full cultist, you recognized his buffoonery but just found it humorous rather than unfit... yet you still adopted that completely nuts view he has some fucked up effect on your 'party' saying the most obvious false & dumbest shit over & over & your 'party' starts believing it & unable to recognize any wrongdoing (& 'party' members who -do- recognize it, scared to say anything as he will destroy them w/ his cult leader status) (& YOU can't rely on binary choice excuse, you have that nuts view during the primary... & i assure you it's nuts ...plus nuts he keeps saying clearly false & crazy shit about it & nobody caring...)
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 15 11:43:00 I think you missed rugians point. You, tw, have harped on and on about how trump is unfit for office because of his lies. Rugian, in contrast, has rarely if ever mentioned bidens lies as the primary reason to oppose him. The point being that you have elevated honesty but only care about it when it involves trump. I am certain rugian didn't expect you have to an epiphany or to realize your gross hypocrisy. It's friday and he likely posted it for his personal lulz, similar to when I post about you being clearly mentally unhinged. We have all given up on ever getting through to you, dunking on you now is purely for personal pleasure.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 13:13:52 it's only hypocrisy if i approve of Biden lying (though some of those probably aren't even intentional lies)... more annoying is his "not a joke" habit & his repeated "...a job is about more than a paycheck..." or taking credit for job creation that resulted from coming out of Covid (which Trump did too) though none of it anywhere near the problematic level of Trump... totally different ballparks... or planets even & i've only ever said my pick is Biden -over Trump- (& i said that's true about nearly anyone) every politician lies, i'm not going to make a thread series on every politician Rugian seems like a DeSantis supporter, & hammers leftist media for smearing him, but not Trump who literally smears him daily? and also can't acknowledge Trump -definitely- committed the docs crime (all his defense are provable lies and/or don't make him not guilty) & instead -defends- w/ crazy notion of it being wrong to recover the docs by force when toddler boy wouldn't obey the law? i'm not the one being hypocritical or w/ a fucked up view about the candidates
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 17:54:46 not normal person: " Biden Prosecutor, Deranged Jack Smith, has asked the Court to limit 45th President, and leading Republican Nominee (by more than 50 points, & beating Dems!) DONALD J. TRUMP’S, PUBLIC STATEMENTS. So, I’m campaigning for President against an incompetent person who has WEAPONIZED the DOJ & FBI to go after his Political Opponent, & I am not allowed to COMMENT? They Leak, Lie, & Sue, & they won’t allow me to SPEAK? How else would I explain that Jack Smith is DERANGED, or Crooked Joe is INCOMPETENT? " the order wouldn't affect any speech about Biden (or anything else a normal person would be campaigning on) & he should fucking know it (or at least a functioning adult would) & he certainly hasn't ever explained how Jack Smith is deranged (the request is to "prohibit Trump from making statements 'regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses' and 'statements about any party, witness, attorney, court personnel, or potential jurors that are disparaging and inflammatory, or intimidating.'")
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 18:54:04 more extensive Boebert grope footage plus her hand in his crotch... classy http://twitter.com/Kaylan_TX/status/1702787403881087087 at Beetlejuice stage play (not movie)
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 15 19:09:04 I guess tw has never had a girl touch his cock while in a dark room in public. Sad.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 21:40:39 Boebert has issued an insincere apology... also claims there was no intent to mislead when initially denying the vaping not the first time her deliberate lying has been exposed by video tape... she also claimed her non vote on some important issue was out of protest, but video showed she just arrived too late
obaminated Member	Fri Sep 15 22:14:31 This is important to tw.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Sep 15 23:06:56 more important than the new beer regulations Ted Cruz (a US Senator) is raging against (& that don't exist)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Sep 16 01:26:04 Trump noting cognitively impaired Biden is leading us into World War 2 (where every country will be obliterated): http://twitter.com/jimstewartson/status/1702881375534362925 but mostly disgusted at the background music (that he's done before)... so incredibly obviously just putting on a show a completely unserious candidate constantly saying & doing ridiculous things & his 'party' unable to notice it
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Sep 17 12:20:06 well MAGA intimidation has gotten Ken Paxton (corrupt Texas AG) acquitted in his impeachment trial (which was initiated by R's, including the Speaker) involved significant corruption & bribery... ideal behavior to the cult leader
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