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| Fri Sep 29 09:40:37
A British independent journalist has been arrested after he condemned the Canadian parliament’s lauding of a Ukrainian Nazi Waffen-SS member.
Warren Thornton was hosting an edition of his webcast The Real Truth on the evening of Sunday September 24 when police officers knocked at his door.
Guest Fiona Ryan recounted how Thornton “vanished” 20 minutes before the show ended, as she was talking with fellow guest Johnee, host of the Café Revolution YouTube channel based in Donetsk on the front line of the conflict with Ukraine.
When she sent a WhatsApp message to Thornton after the webcast ended to ask what happened, he texted back the single word “police”.
After speaking to Thornton the next day, Ryan said officers “invited” him to be “interviewed”.
When he declined, they put him under arrest and drove him to a police station in Bristol, many miles from his home.
There they attempted to serve him with a formal caution for ‘malinformation’ in relation to 16 videos he had posted on social media.
The incident highlights the concerns of free speech advocates that the Online Safety Bill, currently being debated in Parliament, which could be used to crack down on commentators who criticise the official government line.
In a video on social network site X (formerly Twitter) — since taken down — Thornton said that “being taken away and questioned for ‘malinformation’ is quite an honour.”
He noted that “disinformation is when you knowingly know something is a lie, and you publish it. Misinformation is when you don’t know something is a lie, and you go ahead and publish it.”
“’Malinformation’ is when you know something is completely true, and you publish it, and they consider it harm to take it from the private sphere and put it into the public sphere,” Thornton argued.
He pointed out that journalists have a “duty” to expose crimes, impropriety, risks to public health and safety and to prevent the people from being misled by public figures.
The video blogger had previously been critical of NATO’s support to Ukraine in its conflict with Russia. He had also helped expose the dark past of 98-year-old Ontario resident Yaroslav Hunka, who was given a standing ovation in the Canadian House of Commons last week during a speech by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky at the invitation of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
During the Second World War, Hunka was a member of the notorious 14th Waffen-SS Grenadier Division Galicia, a unit of Ukrainian collaborators recruited by the Nazi occupiers which took part in massacres of the civilian population. After the Axis defeat in 1945, Hunka was among thousands of Ukrainian Nazis who emigrated to the Soviet Union’s erstwhile ally Canada — including the grandfather of Foreign Minister and Deputy PM Christia Freeland.
Trudeau apologised for the outrage on Monday — before attempting to shift the focus to alleged “Russian disinformation.”
“So thank you very much for showing that all 16 of the videos you were investigating are completely and utterly true,” Thornton told the police, pointing out that “no further action” was being taken against him.
“There is no way that we are going to keep silent, and we are going to keep telling people the truth,” Thornton vowed. “It is incumbent upon them to prove that what we are doing doesn’t benefit the public.”
He stressed that his and others’ critical coverage of the West’s proxy conflict with Russia in Ukraine was vital in the interests of humanity, and that he was entitled to point out breaches of Article 39 of the UN Charter — which mandates a response to ‘any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression’ — which he believed “all NATO members have been guilty of.”
“We need to stop the killing and all the money that is flowing to these lunatic people and this lunatic war that is being fought on behalf of these lunatics in power,” Thornton said.
| Fri Sep 29 09:44:58
| Fri Sep 29 09:48:40
Russian agents generally get arrested, yes
| Fri Sep 29 14:52:54
Sounds like bollocks to me.
There's no law (except contravention of defence secrets) where publishing true information is a criminal offence.
| Fri Sep 29 15:27:01
I refer you to the legal but harmful doctrine that has crept into your policing standards.
Committing a crime is not a required prerequisite to be arrested in the UK.
| Fri Sep 29 15:43:47
"Legal but harmful" refers to OFFCOM regulation and is a civil matter outside the jurisdiction of the police.
To be arrested in the UK the police need to have reasonable grounds to suspect you of a crime for which arrest is necessary.
So wrong on both counts wingnut.
| Fri Sep 29 15:44:58
And OFFCOM would be talking to youtube, not a creator streaming on it.
| Sat Sep 30 12:41:30
Meanwhile africans are stabbing girls to death on british busses.
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