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obaminated
rank Tue Oct 03 21:34:01 2023
http://www...e-sailors-trap-yellow-sea.html

murder
rank Tue Oct 03 22:55:21 2023

Someone needs to tell them that subs don't have sunroofs.

Seb
rank Wed Oct 04 08:25:32 2023
Ouch.

jergul
rank Wed Oct 04 09:37:42 2023
I stopped reading when an expert began theorizing how O2 supplies might stop when a nuclear submarine had fully drained its batteries.

Seb
rank Wed Oct 04 10:38:35 2023
Lol.

To be fair the Mail didn't say he was an expert, just that he was a "submariner".

If you read the quotes it sounds like a conversation down the pub.

"Hey, Bill, you used to work on a sub right?"
"Well, yeah, doing tours of the great barrier reef"
"How do you reckon this sub ran out of air?"
"Well, if the air purification system was damaged , and the backup was faulty and ran out of battery, yeah, maybe".

If it's true, then you'd have to assume when it hit the anchor/chain trap the cooling system might have got damaged or something else to scram the reactor. I find that a bit hard to believe though.

I'm pretty sure any nuclear sub will have multiple ways to provide over six hours of oxygen. You don't want to have to surface more patrol (even an attack sub) just because you need to take the system off line for maintenance or fix a fault.

More likely is that the story is exaggerated or not correct at all.

murder
rank Wed Oct 04 12:19:29 2023

The cause is right in the title. It was a Chinese sub.

jergul
rank Wed Oct 04 12:31:19 2023
I am pretty sure a nuclear submarine does not rely on batteries as the source of its electricity.

Tabloid fabrication. Even the "sink" part is not supported by the text.

Seb
rank Wed Oct 04 12:53:59 2023
Jergul:

Nuclear subs have batteries. Otherwise reactor shutdowns are non-recoverable and fatal (primary and secondary loop coolant pumps must be kept running until the sub can surface and switch to diest generators).

But I find it hard to believe that getting caught in some chains would require a reactor shut down.

And if they really did run out of battery and couldn't surface, the reactor would have undergone meltdown and we'd probably (?) know about that just because that's really hard to cover up from a logistics pov even if the containment vessel is good enough to avoid spilling molten corium into the South China sea.

jergul
rank Wed Oct 04 13:04:40 2023
ok

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obaminated rank	Tue Oct 03 21:34:01 2023 http://www...e-sailors-trap-yellow-sea.html
murder rank	Tue Oct 03 22:55:21 2023 Someone needs to tell them that subs don't have sunroofs.
Seb rank	Wed Oct 04 08:25:32 2023 Ouch.
jergul rank	Wed Oct 04 09:37:42 2023 I stopped reading when an expert began theorizing how O2 supplies might stop when a nuclear submarine had fully drained its batteries.
Seb rank	Wed Oct 04 10:38:35 2023 Lol. To be fair the Mail didn't say he was an expert, just that he was a "submariner". If you read the quotes it sounds like a conversation down the pub. "Hey, Bill, you used to work on a sub right?" "Well, yeah, doing tours of the great barrier reef" "How do you reckon this sub ran out of air?" "Well, if the air purification system was damaged , and the backup was faulty and ran out of battery, yeah, maybe". If it's true, then you'd have to assume when it hit the anchor/chain trap the cooling system might have got damaged or something else to scram the reactor. I find that a bit hard to believe though. I'm pretty sure any nuclear sub will have multiple ways to provide over six hours of oxygen. You don't want to have to surface more patrol (even an attack sub) just because you need to take the system off line for maintenance or fix a fault. More likely is that the story is exaggerated or not correct at all.
murder rank	Wed Oct 04 12:19:29 2023 The cause is right in the title. It was a Chinese sub.
jergul rank	Wed Oct 04 12:31:19 2023 I am pretty sure a nuclear submarine does not rely on batteries as the source of its electricity. Tabloid fabrication. Even the "sink" part is not supported by the text.
Seb rank	Wed Oct 04 12:53:59 2023 Jergul: Nuclear subs have batteries. Otherwise reactor shutdowns are non-recoverable and fatal (primary and secondary loop coolant pumps must be kept running until the sub can surface and switch to diest generators). But I find it hard to believe that getting caught in some chains would require a reactor shut down. And if they really did run out of battery and couldn't surface, the reactor would have undergone meltdown and we'd probably (?) know about that just because that's really hard to cover up from a logistics pov even if the containment vessel is good enough to avoid spilling molten corium into the South China sea.
jergul rank	Wed Oct 04 13:04:40 2023 ok
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