Utopia Talk / Politics / shit about P01135809 +his shit assocs#39

tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Oct 28 21:31:18 to Rugian: if Trump has some political issue complaint of Milley he’s not going to get in trouble with gag order not sure Milley has even said anything other than defending himself against Trumps bs... noting Trump was a fucking liar in claiming Milley wanted him to attack Iran (because obviously Trump is lying), and took issue with Trump claiming he committed treason and would’ve been executed in days past (again Trump just fucking lying as he -always- fucking does)... saying a witness against you deserves death could be seen as improper, no? especially with a massive cult behind him why the fuck do you people never have a problem with his lies and behavior... no, he wasn’t just complaining Milley too woke, or whatever other stupid shit your side comes up with
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Oct 28 21:39:23 have any serious people agreed Milley committed treason? was there continuous panic that a traitor remained chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for 2 more years? no & no... obviously... and if you think so, you’re in a nut bubble & an unserious person shouldn’t be your nominee... obviously...... yes I use that word a lot...
murder Member	Sat Oct 28 23:09:36 "have any serious people agreed Milley committed treason?" I wouldn't call it treason, but he should have been court-martialed.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Oct 29 01:27:09 no he shouldn't have been China had concerns of lunatic Trump launching an attack to stay in office, Milley assured them that was not in the works... & the call not done secretly, plenty knew & obviously no action taken as nothing wrong w/ it
murder Member	Sun Oct 29 09:57:43 That's not his job. If he had concerns about Trump, he should have passed those concerns along to the VP and congressional leaders. Trying to undermine the commander-in-chief and inject himself into the chain of command was completely out of line. And that's assuming that he didn't communicate anything to China that he wasn't authorized to.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Oct 29 11:29:42 China had the concerns... & it -was- his job it was just another nonsense outrage story by R's
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Oct 29 21:39:44 embarrassment: " I called Bill Barr Dumb, Weak, Slow Moving, Lethargic, Gutless, and Lazy, a RINO WHO COULDN’T DO THE JOB. He just didn’t want to be Impeached, which the Radical Left Lunatics were preparing to do. I was tough on him in the White House, for good reason, so now this Moron says about me, to get even, “his verbal skills are limited.” Well, that’s one I haven’t heard before. Tell that to the biggest political crowds in the history of politics, by far. Bill Barr is a LOSER! " --------- " The Corrupt Biden Administration just took away my First Amendment Right To Free Speech. NOT CONSTITUTIONAL! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN… " yeah, he's having real problem speaking... also why is a 'gag order' a thing if it's not legal...
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Oct 30 02:58:21 "you are so pathetic... claiming i've shown misleading edits when you can't show a single one" lol. You cowardly little bitch. How many times have you posted Acyn links, you lying piece of shit? Tw, do us a favor and do. not. vote. Your track record of voting for pedophiles is too consistent.
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Oct 30 03:00:15 Tw, comment from the last thread, enclosed in brackets, wherein Acyn posts a deceptive edit and tw, being a dumb piece of shit, buys it uncritically: [][][][] little boy very proud of himself: " ...I'm for us. You know how you spell 'us', right? You spell us U.S. I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of that before? I just picked that up. A couple days [ago] I'm reading and it said 'us'. And I said, you know, when you think about it, us equals U.S. Isn't that... now, if we say something genius, they will never say it [pointing at cameras] " http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1716547648658850017 the damn fake news better report that stable genius observation [][][][] Tw is literally too goddamned stupid to understand that he's been deceived.
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Oct 30 03:01:36 Here's a list of psychosis accounts that I warned tw about more than a year ago: http://twitter.com/CherubCow/status/1610129800915468288 Psychosis accounts are Regime-operated propaganda accounts designed to created deranged lunatics such as tw. They are designed to make TDS bots who no longer have souls.
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Oct 30 03:03:03 (wherein tw ignores this information and proceeds as normal in posting deceptively edited clips from these sources)
murder Member	Mon Oct 30 08:17:17 Trump holds lead in Iowa poll while Haley ties DeSantis for second Donald Trump continues to hold a commanding lead in Iowa while Nikki Haley has risen to tie with Ron DeSantis for second place in the GOP field, according to an NBC News/Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll released Monday. Forty-three percent of likely Republican caucusgoers picked the former president as their first-choice candidate, giving him a 27-point lead that’s up four percentage points since the August Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom Iowa Poll. Former U.N. Ambassador Haley, up 10 percentage points since August, and Florida Gov. DeSantis, down three percentage points, both trail Trump at 16 percent in the poll released about a week ahead of the third GOP debate. Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) follows with 7 percent and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy both hold 4 percent. The poll also found that 65 percent of likely caucusgoers believe Trump can win a general election against President Joe Biden despite the legal challenges the former president faces — while 32 percent said it would be nearly impossible for him to beat Biden. http://www...trump-iowa-poll-haley-00124197
murder Member	Mon Oct 30 08:19:12 It looks like Ramasmarmy is fading.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 30 11:35:00 "How many times have you posted Acyn links, you lying piece of shit? " many times... but zero times discredited... zero... you fail to respond to the idiocy Trump says in the clips just claiming 'oh, Acyn posted' (or Rupar)... but NEVER discrediting clip, i'm 100% not even possible most times as i've seen all surrounding video too & no context missing =========== "wherein Acyn posts a deceptive edit and tw, being a dumb piece of shit, buys it uncritically" wherein CC -YET AGAIN-, just claims something is deceptive with NO proof at all... i am quoting every word he said... what's deceptive??? (or will this be like Hawley, where you hand wave & just keep claiming it's deceptive due to the time-space continuum...) are you crazy or just a troll?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 30 11:39:08 "Forty-three percent of likely Republican caucusgoers picked the former president as their first-choice candidate" not horrible... he's a completely known candidate & people tend to love or hate him, so not likely to be many's '2nd choice'... the other 57% still could get together for Haley or something (& still time to chip at the 43%, or could include 'embarrassed not to' people) sadly, Vivek will probably stay in as long as Trump wants him to, he can self fund
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 30 11:48:15 after midnight: " Why didn’t Crooked Joe Biden tell his Injustice Department to file the lawsuits and Indictments against me 3 years ago, instead of right in the middle of my campaign for President? You’re setting a BAD precedent for yourself, Joe. The same can happen to you. These Third World Biden Indictments, which should never have been filed, would have been tried and over with years ago. My SleazeBag Opponent shouldn’t be able to do this during my campaign, OR BEFORE THE ELECTION! " 7 hours later: " Why didn’t they start the totally political BIDEN INDICTMENTS & COURT CASES Three (3) Years Ago, instead of the MIDDLE OF MY CAMPAIGN??? Third World Country-ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!! " 7 mins later... " If they started the highly political Biden Indictments 3 years ago, everything would now be finished. THEY WAITED UNTIL MY CAMPAIGN BEGAN! " i'm guessing he had a bad night's sleep & yeah, "3 years"... why didn't they indict him before he committed the crimes... we all know questioning dozens or hundreds of people & preparing indictments takes negative time... (& it's not like they gave him 1.5 years to comply on the docs, repeatedly warning him he was breaking the law...) & of course zero evidence Joe involved at all, the docs case totally clear why indicted, & on J6, the hearings clearly showed wrong-doing & sent recommendations (& Jack did own investigation & came to similar conclusions)... & much public, it -all- happened, despite crazies & the ignorant unable to notice it [he has many attacks on indictments every single day, saying the same things over & over, i'm not posting nearly close to all of them]
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 31 00:59:56 1:12am.... another '3 year' bullshit post, all caps now: " REMEMBER, CROOKED JOE BIDEN AND HIS RADICAL LEFT THUGS WAITED THREE YEARS TO BRING THESE INDICTMENTS & LAWSUITS AGAINST ME, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY CAMPAIGN! "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 31 11:47:52 4:24am... he reposted the above (so there twice in a row) adding "ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!" (as he says multiple times a day, every day... of course the talk of indictments coming most likely why he announced his run so early then did no campaigning)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 31 11:58:21 Josh Hawley being a performative dick... (though i'm sure represented as hero on Fox, etc): http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1719395281039487122 "is this typical".... FUCK YOU... yeah, that's why you have just a singular (weak) example...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Oct 31 12:01:48 additional Mayorkas response since Hawley wouldn't let him speak... http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1719386046142525536
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 01 19:01:46 dangerous fuckhead: " Dinesh D’Souza exposed the fraud of the 2020 Election in his film 2000 Mules—well now Dinesh is back and exposing the Witch Hunt that the Deep State has against ME! And the Police State is coming after you too. Dinesh understands this, and is blowing the whistle on all of it! " yup, he definitely won't cause more riots/insurrections...
murder Member	Thu Nov 02 10:35:23 Uh-oh tumbleweed! ===================================== Judge floats delay of Trump’s classified documents trial The trial is scheduled for May 20, but Judge Aileen Cannon is weighing Trump’s bid to postpone it until after next year’s presidential election. http://www...documents-trial-delay-00124887
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 02 11:41:15 she's some novice Trump appointed to oversee where he lives so not surprising, she already gave him that special master ruling to delay things that was easily overturned the docs case is a slam dunk, though i lost some hope in it accomplishing anything with Rugian & obaminated simply not caring that he's guilty (& they aren't even full cultists, just that weird middle where nothing he does ever matters)
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 02 12:24:21 ^ Notice how tw has many more bad things to say about the FL judge (who is putting on a reasonably respectable trial so far) than either Chuchkin or Engeron (who are openly partisan hacks leading what are clearly show trials). Tw is worthless as an analyst because of his bias.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 02 21:33:59 notice Rugian has nothing bad to say about Trump, even though knows he's guilty (of taking 100s of classified docs, refusing to return, & also lying in response to a subpoena (not trying to fight on legal grounds) & hiding the docs from search by his own people... fucking crazy behavior) ...Trump's also guilty on J6 stuff, but the entire side of the aisle incapable of even seeing what occurred (Ben Carson was just on CNN last night saying 'it's same thing Hillary/Dems did' NOPE, not even close... or the 'he was just questioning the results'.... NOPE)
Cherub Cow Member	Sat Nov 04 10:41:47 [Rugian]: "Tw is worthless as an analyst because of his bias." Correct. Tw is a Sam Seder type — incapable of learning or of improving morally. Most moral people without learning disabilities will show remarkable improvement when they spend a great deal of time performing and re-performing a task. This is like the artist's journey, where the artist starts with stick figures and later produces Renaissance paintings. But people with learning disabilities or without morality will "improve" only in their degradation. The incredible amount of hours spent on a task is not spent giving form to the shapeless but in insisting that the shapeless become ever-more shapeless. The mind disorders itself. Its narrative is chaos, and so the mind reflects that chaos. The very "nesting instinct" which establishes a life's hold over reality fades into total helplessness. At last, the true "practice" of the wasted hours is revealed: the mind cannot survive without the Party, and its only task is to re-produce the Party's hyper-immediate will and reflect that will in its every interpretation. [CC]: "How many times have you posted Acyn links, you lying piece of shit?" [tw]: "many times... [and EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.] discredited" I'm glad you've figured it out, and in your All-Caps routine! ;) As I've explained dozens of times, liar propagandists such as Acyn fool dimwitted idiots of the psychosis-left because psychosis-leftists often have no concept of basic film manipulations and editing tactics. One of the more popular deception tactics of the DNC-backed and DNC-funded account "Acyn" is to fool idiots with the tactic of • "[I'm just showing this thing as it happened, bro. • It speaks for itself, bro. • It literally just happened exactly as I clipped it, bro,]" while simultaneously.. • omitting context (e.g.; the 5 W's; when the event occurred, where it was, who was present, what occurs or *appears* to occur, why the video exists or why the event took place) • falsifying dramatic irony (e.g., giving the audience a false knowledge of context which was not present as the actual even unfolded) • falsifying/manufacturing consent (e.g., the false context of the video does not stop at the video; the propaganda apparatus known as "X"/"Twitter" guides the viewer not just to the video/content itself but immediately afterwards to the most "popular" people in the comments section — with those who follow psychosis accounts being bilge-fed their most psychotic suggestions as the primary responses to that falsified content, multiplying the effect of the psychosis) • falsifying temporality (e.g., using montage techniques and audio editing to place events next to each other which were not actually concurrent or related, falsifying Jungian synchronicity to inform a false intent an false connections in the mind of the viewer) • omitting intent (e.g., using the context to develop how vocabulary was established before a clip, what the overall point of the clip was prior to and after the clip, what premises were used within the language and demeanor of the clip) • rejecting the possibility of tone (e.g., sarcasm, humor) • drawing attention to one "helpful" aspect and away from an "unhelpful" aspect to inform a false perception (e.g., focusing on words rather than tone, focusing on tone rather than face, focusing on who rather than why) • taking false premises as true (e.g., assuming that a statement is automatically false as the starting point of conclusions which work backwards, assuming that the words mean what the psychosis-left believes they mean) • providing false context through titles and innuendo (e.g., expecting the audience's psychosis to interpret anything in the preexisting terms of the psychosis, expecting the audience to come to their conclusions entirely from the clip and approach the primary sources only afterwards — this causing the psychosis-left to no longer be able to understand the clip even when provided with the full and primary context) What is particularly hilarious about Acyn is that now that he has had his audience artificially amplified through the DNC's funding and promoting of his account, he does not even have to do much to fool the weak-minded psychosis-left of his echo chamber. He simply has to post a clip and a quotation from the clip and the comment section immediately starts yelling like the slaves of "1984" in a Two Minutes Hate. They have already been so heavily pre-conditioned by propaganda that the moment they see Trump or a "friendly" DNC-promoted account, they are ready to interpret the posted clip in the most cynical, illogical, and psychotic terms possible. The right's equivalent is Jack Posobiec, whom I had to ignore on Twitter because he uses this same tactic to propagandize the right. He will use the same tactics above to offer a clip of "[this thing that just happened as it happened, bro!]", allow his audience to lose its shit, and, once he has moved on, the more logical portions of the audience follow-up by explaining.. "[No, that was actually false. This is the wider context and meaning]" — but this occurs too late; the primary effect of the propaganda has already taken hold; the event has now been falsified and the believer goes forth with a false premise which will inform further misinterpretations. In short, simply posting Acyn or any content from the psychosis accounts is a proof of one's mental enslavement — save, of course, for posting it in a meta-sense, such as showing the propaganda techniques at work; posting Acyn clips as "proof" is itself a total admission that one's mind is totally enslaved. [tw]: "(or will this be like Hawley, where you hand wave & just keep claiming it's deceptive due to the time-space continuum...)" Hawley was perfect proof that you are incapable of seeing through these editing tactics. Even when through teeth-pulling I got you to read my actual words regarding Hawley and how that hoax was perpetrated, you still could not understand my words or understand that a hoax had been perpetrated. The short version, in review, is that the DNC falsified the narrative of Hawley "fleeing" for their show trials. Hawley was *not* "fleeing". If you continue to believe this, you admit to the success of this propaganda. The falsification occurred by several methods: • The DNC used montage-editing to falsify events which were not actually concurrent, flipping between video of Hawley in a hallway from one angle, omitting the simultaneous footage of him from another angle, and clipping-in videos and audio of protestors in other sections of the Capitol at *different* times and *different* places so that the psychosis-left believes (falsely) that a mob was only some 50 feet away from Hawley and that they were angry and imminent. This makes the psychosis-left believe that Hawley could not have been moving except to "flee" (a false belief). • Narrativizing this false editing in the show trials — By presenting this falsified narrative in the context of the show trials, the echo-chamber cult is present to interpret this falsified material in only one way: through the Regime's preferred lie ("fleeing"). This amplified echo chamber of lies is the primary effect of having such show trials in the first place. The audience is presented only with the Regime's "evidence" and is given no contrary evidence or opinion, the result being that the propagandized audience of the psychosis-left incorrectly believes that the show trials themselves represent all of the evidence itself. These mental slaves cannot even see the missing evidence, even as camera angles change without explanation, the critical faculties of their minds never reach the threshold required to detect the deceptions. • falsely claiming and insinuating that an office jog was a run when a simple breakdown of Hawley's leg positioning demonstrates conclusively that this was at best an office jog. In reality — beyond the lies of the Regime and its video deceptions — Hawley was in no hurry. The truth is rather the *opposite* of the Regime's: Hawley was the *last* to arrive with the group of politicians who were being evacuated and was thus the *least* worried or concerned. • he was the last to evacuate with this group • he arrived last *to* the group • he arrived only by office-jogging rather than running • after arriving, he immediately begins walking next to the rear-most person • after arriving, he chats with this rear-most person while wholly unconcerned • not once does he look back with concern None of these are the responses of someone "fleeing". The narrative for "fleeing" simply does not exist in a reality-based framework. Were he "fleeing", • he would have been first to evacuate • he would have been *running* • he would have moved past others in the group to be farther away from a "mob" • he would have shown panic and disorder — not holding a file or chatting calmly • he would have looked back frequently to make sure that he was safe The Regime has sold you a lie. The entire format of the show trials was built upon this same series of deceptive tactics. You fell even for one of the most obvious of their deceptions, yet you believe a Gish Gallop of other examples from the Show Trial will somehow be reliable alternatives of "proof". You could not even use your own inner intuition and perceptive abilities to see a man office-jogging in a hallway. Being as your consciousness exists only in relation to the Regime's narrative, you saw what they wanted you to see, even as it wholly departed from reality. "You are a slave, Neo."
Cherub Cow Member	Sat Nov 04 10:45:34 Can the rear-guard of the popular psychosis-left be brought to reality? Can their sycophants be saved? Is there hope for tw? Here, "Triggernometry" interviews Bill Maher, who, despite attempting to oppose the current brand of Bolshevik "Wokeism", still retains his TDS — and his justifications for this TDS are informed by Regime lies. Full Triggernometry interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PSwgX1HL0 Scott Adams commentary: "The Bill Maher mystery is finally explained here to my satisfaction. "Mystery: How could a guy as smart as Maher have such bad TDS? "Answer: Evidently, Maher's news sources are insanely limited. "Bill believes a Russian budget of $100K and some highschool quality memes that no one saw can sway an election. (The memes included anti-Trump and anti-Hillary memes.) "Bill believes that Paul Manafort sharing some stale internal polling data with a Russian Billionaire (while scamming him) swayed an election. "Bill was not aware that Hillary REPEATEDLY claimed the 2016 election was rigged. As did many in the Democrat party. "Summary: It's an information problem. Bill's brain appears to be fully functional, but criminally misinformed." http://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1720790785032171795
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 04 16:08:30 hey psycho, you specifically claim Acyns “us U.S.” video is deceptive, so fucking prove it, show surrounding video hiding the missing context or whatever other dumb shit claim you are making... good luck (or do it with ANY Acyn video I posted, you won’t, you can’t) (If it’s in your wall of garbage, copy/paste that element, I only skimmed) and ok... Haley was just “office jogging” with other fleeing people who were being evacuated, that totally changes everything and thus discredits the whole J6 hearings (that you didn’t watch)... even though that element was just humor and not relevant to any of the criminal or corrupt acts... (according to your fucked up mind) -actually- discredit a video I posted or shut the fuck up forever
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 04 19:30:44 as it could be days (or hopefully never) before CC returns, to sum up: - CC claimed a specific Acyn clip was deceptive, citing nothing - CC returned with a laundry list of ways a post or clip -could- be deceptive, but demonstrating none on that clip (or any clip I’ve posted) so CCs next post better have the evidence on that clip... no work needs done as CC already determined it was deceptive (unless a fucking liar who makes shit up like the king fuckhead) and CC can’t go with the default bullshit of “he was joking” (that TDSers have to rely on so often) as he clearly wasn’t, but -even if he was- there’s nothing deceptive about the clip, just showing his great joke (which definitely is not a joke) or just feel free to never return
murder Member	Sun Nov 05 14:29:40 I'm just going to leave this here ... http://www...p-group-ads-backfired-00125087 If your name is tumbleweed, you probably don't want to click that.
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 05 20:02:00 Murder is accurate. Meh, broken clocks and all...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 05 21:05:23 i already heard about it, the cult gonna cult plus all the propaganda media backing up that he's done nothing wrong, Hillary did same, yadda yadda, totally provably false bullshit
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 05 21:12:24 fuckhead: "60 Minutes? So, if the Vice President didn’t have the power to act (Sending votes back to Legislatures for rechecking and rapid approval, UNLESS THEY FOUND FRAUD, OR SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE VOTE COUNTING!), why did the RINOS & Democrats get together and CHANGE THE LAW so that (A) Vice President in the future wouldn’t do what these people said he couldn’t do? If he couldn’t do it, they would not have changed the law. Those same people would have told you, but only AFTER the Election, that a V.P. HAD the right to send them back to the States for recertification, and they didn’t like that, so they changed the law, taking away that right. I disagree because if Fraud is found, fix it! 60 Minutes: “Last year, Democrats and Republicans past an Electoral Count Law. It now CLARIFIES a Vice President’s role is to read, not judge, the votes.” The fact that they had to CLARIFY THE LAW means that there was UNCERTAINTY, which means that it was open to INTERPRETATION. It could have been done! " no, the VP couldn't... -minimally-, you're allowing a single person, who is on the ticket, to just choose to completely delay a process that by law is to occur on Jan 6 & of course merely 'recertifying' wasn't his purpose, there's no need to recertify, nothing would have changed, he just wanted the legislators to vote with no proof at all, & in fact using baseless & proven false claims, to make him winner (his motives 100% completely established, so much was just public,... & no Hillary didn't do that or anything close...) but no, the VP couldn't do any of what Trump wanted... obviously... why in the hell would he have that power... nothing suggests he does... 'the VP opens & counts the votes', that's it the changes to the law did NOT remove that power, the actual changes weren't even about the VP
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 05 21:21:26 dictator child cult leader threatening to destroy popular Governor (theoretically of his own party) who endorsed DeSantis instead of him... behavior no one else does...: " Kim Reynolds apparently has begun her retirement tour early as she clearly does not have any ambition for higher office. Earlier this year, she promised her constituents that she would remain neutral in the race, [fucking false, of course] yet she has completely gone back on that promise [still false]. Regardless, her endorsement will not make any difference in this race. In a poll conducted about the impact of a Reynolds endorsement, 72% of respondents replied that it would not affect how they vote. [so, i guess does make a difference, pretty sure 28 is not 0... if the poll even exists, & assuming not an internet poll by catturd or something...] "
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 05 21:26:23 recall he hates Gov Kemp of GA for the -sole- reason that Kemp didn't help him overturn the election with no cause to do so... yet people find him acceptable... they don't even notice the behavior at all... what's wrong w/ trashing the votes of everyone & just letting others decide... maybe just one dude on the ticket with him... yay, democracy...? cult & the real TDS
murder Member	Mon Nov 06 11:06:00 They do notice the behavior ... and they like it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 11:26:25 it's crazy... oh yes, please completely obviously & provably make up childish bullshit & lie directly to our faces... the lies are specifically to mislead -us- (not sane people who easily see through it)... & we love it! plus, do -all- the behaviors that we complain about Dems doing... & do them way more so... even the ones we just speculate Dems do & can't prove, but you do right in the open...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 11:34:06 on fuckface's feed so far today: ~9 posts attacking the judge/prosecutor/trial in NY... saying the same shit over & over that he says every single day... no explanation of how to 'subjectively' find an 11,000 sq ft apt to be 30,000 sq ft... or any other clear property value inflation (besides bringing up Mar-a-lago, & still unable to help himself from massively inflating its value)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 11:36:58 & of course no explanation of why he refused to return the classified docs, besides claiming he was allowed to keep any doc he wanted (a provable falsehood that NO ONE else is claiming) & no explanation at all ever why he hid docs from his own lawyer's search when subpoenaed (not that that case pending at the moment, just crazy that the other side accepts his clear lies, & demands no answers... just doesn't care a bit)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 12:07:42 Trump is on the stand today (had no choice)... apparently is giving long rambling answers (shocker), & told to just answer the question (as a judge would tell anyone, not special treatment), but his lawyer argued he's giving "brilliant" answers (& needs to be allowed to ramble) ...so his handlers have to stroke him even when on the witness stand
Rugian Member	Mon Nov 06 12:32:49 What a shitbag judge. How the fuck did this hack earn his robes?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 12:49:41 no witness is allowed to ramble about shit instead of answering the question
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 13:02:25 it did give Trump a nice misleading quote to give to the idiot masses though (in his attack post #11 of 12 so far today): image of judge w/ quote: "No, I'm not here to hear what [Trump] has to say" ~ Judge most likely said by the judge to the lawyer arguing Trump's brilliance should not be silenced no matter how irrelevant
Rugian Member	Mon Nov 06 13:22:45 This idiot judge fined Trump's LAWYERS for making legal arguments that he disagreed with, and you're defending him? Insane
Rugian Member	Mon Nov 06 13:28:34 We have an Attorney General who RAN ON A CAMPAIGN THAT SHE WOULD PROSECUTE TRUMP and a judge who is clearly relishing his role of overseeing the prosecution of Orange Hitler himself... ...regardless of what you think about Trump, is this really your idea of how justice is supposed to work?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 14:05:29 i have no doubt he purposely inflated asset values & he essentially admits it by constantly relying on the 'disclaimer clause' (that banks should do their own work)... but do you not find that offensive? filing a document with knowingly massively false info? **what purpose is there in submitting it other than deliberate deception?** sure, going for 10-20% exaggeration might be normal, he's 200%-300%+... not a mistake, clear fraud but i don't know the law on this case (though he'll win on appeals if it's on his side, which i doubt, at least on some of it)... it's not the case i'm interested in & unfortunately gives the Faux & crowd media something to distract from his other clear criminal acts (including trying to fraudulently overturn an election... in other words seize power through deception... that's kind of a -big deal- that your side cares ZERO about & keeps saying Dems did same, when DIDN'T AT ALL) & he will definitely not accept results if losing the primary or general election coming up... how is that acceptable... how is any of it acceptable...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 15:11:16 Trump's lawyers didn't cross-examine him, so maybe they don't actually believe his child-speak rambling is so "brilliant"
obaminated Member	Mon Nov 06 18:19:06 The court is claiming Mar al Lago is worth 18 million dollars. That's laughably absurd.
obaminated Member	Mon Nov 06 18:20:59 http://nyp...g-he-valued-mar-a-lago-at-18m/ This is the American justice system openly mocking common sense in order to embarrass and shut down the orange man.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 19:08:59 yes, Mar-a-lago is the ONLY property they defend... seen it mentioned over & over & over, & NEVER ANY of the others & i agreed it was wrong on that ONE property (though still doesn't make Trump's valuation right & has NOTHING in common w/ all the other examples)
obaminated Member	Mon Nov 06 19:29:44 Mar al Lago is the main focus because it's blatantly wrong and bias and represents how shitty this judge is.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 21:00:24 the judge had nothing to do with it... a tax assessor put it at $18 to 27 million, the judge didn’t come up with it (obviously, though team fraud implies it)... but that value isn’t meant as sale value it wouldn’t surprise me if his lawyers left the mistake just to have something to talk about given how many times they have talked about it and only it... I’m sure you’ve heard “Mar-a-Lago isn’t $18 million” every single time someone defends Trump but never another example. Plus it doesn’t even defend Trump at all, 18 being wrong doesn’t make his value right, plus there’s the multiple other proven examples that they can’t dispute and don’t even try, I've never heard anything but Mar-a-lago from team fraud
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 21:26:52 also, do you really want to be doubting Trump would’ve purposely exaggerated numbers, especially when about his own wealth? surely he wouldn’t do the thing he always does to laughable degree and with extreme consistency...
obaminated Member	Mon Nov 06 21:26:53 Yeah tw. Mar al Lago is worth 18 million bucks. That's a totally fair and accurate accessment that the judge wisely viewed to be fair and accurate. Sure is good the judge and not a jury is going to decide the outcome of this trial. In no way is the judge making blatantly bad choices to drum up negative PR for trump while being fully aware whatever judgement he gives will get overturned due to the blatant bad choices.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 21:47:33 blah blah blah... 'i trust Trump's values of himself, thus demonstrating i'm a total idiot' do you have a second example? please cite it... (not that you've proven Mar-a-lago is worth what he says) Trump has never given a second example... "Mar-a-lago" multiple times a day every day, no second example...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 06 22:04:04 Trump's hired an appraiser who put Seven Springs at $50 million (& that's after lots of lobbying from Eric)... "A few months later, Donald Trump’s financial statements valued Seven Springs at over $160 million" do they have a defense? (no, they don't) & we know the 11,000 sq ft apartment suddenly becoming 30,000 is right from Trump as he personally lobbied Forbes about it so can't claim ignorance (not that it isn't 100% obvious he's the root of all of it) do they have a defense for that? (no, they don't... though claim 'a mistake', like the real estate guy wouldn't know if his personal residence suddenly tripled in size or not) & multiple other lies in the case & there -are- witnesses, like Trump's accountants & various employees... the judge isn't just making all of it up (in fact, he's making -none- of it up because that's not how court works...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 08 11:06:25 embarrassing malignant narcissist: " Daniel Cameron lost because he couldn’t alleviate the stench of Mitch McConnell. I told him early that’s a big burden to overcome. McConnell and Romney are Kryptonite for Republican Candidates. I moved him up 25 Points, but the McConnell relationship was “too much to bear.” Tate Reeves, on the other hand, surged to a win for Governor in Mississippi after my involvement. Congratulations to Tate! " fact check (as if not obvious): -Cameron did -not- move up 25 pts after Trump's endorsement... -Reeves did -not- surge to win after Trump's 'involvement', he was always favored... but obviously the psycho wants full credit for everything, all must owe their success to him & thus be in his debt nothing weird or concerning about that behavior at all...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 10 13:44:36 another confession from the criminal idiot: " Fake News CNN just did a story, leaked by Deranged Prosecutor Jack Smith and his massive team of Radical Left Lunatics, that various people saw papers and boxes at Mar-a-Lago. Of course they did! They may have been the boxes etc. that were openly and plainly brought from the White House, as is my right under the Presidential Records Act. I even supplied, upon request, Security Tapes to these Election Interfering Thugs. Is this really “Breaking News?” No, it’s “Breaking Fake News.” But what about all of the papers, boxes, and documents found at NUMEROUS Crooked Joe Biden places, like his garage floor by his cherished Corvette, or CHINATOWN where it was just learned that boxes moved freely in and out. He doesn’t come under the Presidential Records Act because he wasn’t President at the time. Deranged Jack Smith has spent over $100,000,000 investigating me on this phony Russia, Russia, Russia, type Scam. How much $’s have they spent investigating Crooked Joe on his much bigger boxes deal? " http://tru...Trump/posts/111386448888653942 well, it's established that hundreds of classified docs (thousands of pages) were -in- those boxes, so now he's admitting many people saw them... sticking w/ the false claim he could take whatever he wanted (which NOBODY repeats) & now apparently he's fine admitting to letting people see (either from him deliberately showing, as demonstrated on audio tape, or from his completely careless handling leaving them lying around which is the new revelations)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 11 15:53:55 lying complete piece of trash: " We had no terror during my administration. The only terror we had was Nancy Pelosi who's a crazed lunatic. She's a lunatic, a crazed lunatic. What the hell was going on with her husband? Let’s not ask. <fuckwit voice>Let's not ask. I'll withdraw that statement.</fuckwit voice> By the way, she's got a wall around her house. *laughs* Obviously in that case it didn't work very well, it didn't work. " http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1723443501164376363 not the first time he's joked about the husband hit in the head w/ a hammer (so funny!)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 12:03:20 standard holiday message: " In honor of our great Veterans on Veteran’s Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! " nothing weird or concerning about that rhetoric at all (shit he says repeatedly... yeah, 'in honor of veterans day'...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 12 12:13:01 also, there's (obviously) his daily attacks on his trial(s) & NINE different videos/articles of or about him being cheered at a UFC match & some obviously empty promises from his rally: - "President Trump pledges to end Ukraine war BEFORE even taking office" (but after elected) - "Trump pledges to ‘eradicate veterans’ homelessness’ if elected" - "I will prevent World War Three"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 11:55:24 fuckhead: " Racist A.G. Letitia James is smirking all day long from her seat in Court, as New York continues to set records in murder and other violent crimes, and businesses flee to other States. “This is a law that’s rather bazar, this is a law that doesn’t require any victims (there are none, except me!), it doesn’t require anyone to lose money - the banks didn’t complain here, they made money. You have a (Trump Hating!) Attorney General who’s seeking hundreds of millions of dollars in damages when not a single penny was lost by these banks, and that’s part of this (Unconstitutional!) Law…You can see from the reaction of A.G. James, every morning from that seat, that she is enjoying this, enjoying it a bit too much.” Law Professor Jonathan Turley. THIS LAW HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR THIS BEFORE. It is both Unconstitutional and very UNFAIR! No businesses will come to New York, only continue to leave. The whole case is RIGGED from D.C. It is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. OUR COUNTRY IS BROKEN & CORRUPT!!! " "bazar".... ......... and assuming the Turley quote real, note the repeated "this is a law" as in it exists (& no claim he didn't violate it... & inaccurate in saying 'not a penny lost' as the figures can change the terms of the loan)
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Nov 14 15:56:01 [tw; illiterate TDS bot who will do anything for the Regime, including support-as-sport the murder of 6 Christians]: "(If it’s in your wall of garbage, copy/paste that element, I only skimmed)" [tw; who supports the diaper-shitting totalitarian fraud liar pedophile resident Biden]: "so CCs next post better have the evidence on that clip" Absolutely pathetic bag of shit. This is why tw can never leave his derangement. Tw's mind truly is the Yuri Bezmenov point about the demoralized useful idiot of the Regime being absolutely immune to logic and evidence. He simply calls my detailed explanation of how clipped-video propaganda functions (followed by how it was applied to Hawley and propagated by Acyn) a "wall of garbage" that he "only skimmed", then sets the absurd premise that if I don't offer even *further* detail [for him to again ignore] that it must be because I cannot provide evidence. It is a self-contradictory standard: I must provide evidence that he will ignore. It is a perfect distillation of the mind of a deluded cretin. His position is sustained not by his understanding of any issue but through his ability to ignore all counter-information. This is the mind of the cultist within the walls of the cult who has been taught to ignore anyone who is not in that cult. Tw, you are in a cult. -=-=- Tw will digest this information uncritically: "Karl: Trump wanted Brooks to go out and call on Biden to be removed, call for a re-running of the election, and for trump to be reinstated as president. Brooks said I can’t do it and Trump later withdrew his endorsement" [Acyn Tweet of Regime propagandist "Psaki"; November 13th, 2023] http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1724236243599339844 Tw is mentally incapable of seeing the layered propaganda manipulations of this Tweet. He simply sees more "evidence" that his psychotic state is correct. He would call on others to explain it to him, but then he would not read their explanations. Tw is a monkey who dances for gods that he pretends do not control him. I remind again that peasants who supported the Soviet Bolsheviks only to discover that they had perpetrated a massive fraud on civilization and killed the enemies of the Bolshevik oligarchs found themselves wandering the Urals for salvation through isolation — a scheme which could never be successful since their very memories carried their treason. "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If... if... We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 18:41:37 blah blah blah you know what's actually embarrassing/alarming... CC sees an Acyn video where Trump sounds stupid/unfit/whatever (happens often), & instantly TDS sets in & CC has to just -assume- it -must- be manipulated somehow when it doesn't even make sense to be (kinda like how HR (& cultists in general) just presumed all negative news stories were fake w/ not even a denial from cult leader) see CC's mentally ill post above [Mon Oct 30 03:00:15] for details... i await CC's humble groveling admission of mistake... (posting some other Acyn post & trying to criticize it doesn't mean a god damned thing...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 14 18:53:36 also, while the TDS victim is able to baselessly claim every Acyn post is deceptive somehow w/ no evidence or even possibility of being so... they can't say a word about the multitude of posts i've posted straight from fuckhead's fake twitter, where he sounds just as stupid/unfit/whatever thus many people are saying these mentally-ill cultists can't even see/hear his words
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 15 14:30:55 embarrassment: " Failed ABC Fake News reporter Jonathan Karl just wrote another bad book. He works sooo hard, but has sooo little talent - Some people have it, and some people don’t. In the “book” he has the World’s most overrated celebrity, Kim Kardashian, supposedly telling me that she “would leverage her celebrity to get football stars to come to the White House,” if I would commute the sentences of various prisoners. This story is Fake News in that she would be the last person I asked to get football players. I’ve had many teams, from all sports and leagues, in the White House. If there was even a slight reluctance, I would immediately withdraw the invitation, there would be NO Negotiation - But this did not happen often. I did help with prisoner commutation, but only if deserving, and much more so for Kanye West than for Kim, who probably voted for Crooked Joe Biden, and look at the mess our Country is in now. Many other false stories in Karl’s very boring book, but nothing worth mentioning! " an adult (in age only) wrote that
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 16 11:58:11 fuckhead makes up a fake deal... how unlike him to lie about his accomplishments... " President Xi and I had a deal whereby China was going to criminalize at the highest level, THE DEATH PENALTY, the manufacturing of Fentanyl. That deal miraculously disappeared with our RIGGED PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2020. Too bad!!! One more thing to add to the Stolen Election List of Disasters! " i guess he's jealous Biden was able to actually negotiate with his boyfriend, when he's too stupid & lazy to read any briefing material or learn any info so couldn't ever participate
murder Member	Thu Nov 16 13:13:35 Stollen* :o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 16 14:30:10 he must've had a servant post it
murder Member	Thu Nov 16 14:43:28 Darn autocorrect! ;o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 16 18:07:27 Trump's gag order suspended & he immediately attacks the clerk (w/ childish nonsense obviously)... " Judge Arthur Engoron has just been overturned (stayed!) by the New York State Appellate Division (Appeals Court), for the 4th TIME (on the same case!). His Ridiculous and Unconstitutional Gag Order, not allowing me to defend myself against him and his politically biased and out of control, Trump Hating Clerk, who is sinking him and his Court to new levels of LOW, is a disgrace. They are defending the Worst and Least Respected Attorney General in the United States, Letitia James, who is a Worldwide disgrace, as is her illegal Witch Hunt against me. The Radical and Unprecedented actions of Judge Engoron will keep BUSINESSES and JOBS forever out of New York State. I have done NOTHING WRONG, my numbers were low, not high, I have a COMPLETE DISCLAIMER CLAUSE, their Star Witness admitted he lied and made up this Fake case against me, and the the Attorney General used a “Get Trump” platform in order to run for A.G. & Governor (she failed!). This wicked attack on Democracy must be ended, NOW! " & a 'stay' is NOT 'overturning'...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 16 18:08:28 would set up a nice perjury charge (if he didn't get special treatment) when he lied to the judge that his last attack was about Cohen & not the clerk
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Nov 17 04:58:28 [tw]: "they can't say a word about the multitude of posts i've posted straight from fuckhead's fake twitter" Lulz. Tw attempting that Gish Gallop again. :D This is why the Hawley example is so useful with exposing tw's psychopathy. Tw, being a cultist in a cult, is incapable of staying on one single subject. He *must* evade and Gish-Gallop. He *must* get you to buy into the entire delusion of his cult. If you try to get him to think through one single thing (here, Hawley), he admits that he's illiterate and cannot read your argument, then insists that we talk about Trump. It really is sad. [tw]: "& instantly TDS sets in & CC has to just -assume- it -must- be manipulated somehow when it doesn't even make sense to be (kinda like how HR (& cultists in general) just presumed all negative news stories were fake w/ not even a denial from cult leader)" You really are fucking retarded, aren't you? :D You're still too stupid to realize that manipulation in propaganda is not just excused with, "[Hur hur! He literally said the thing! Hur hur! How is it manipulated?]" You really are too stupid to read my bullet points explaining how this propaganda functions, and so you very stupidly shit your pants and try to claim that there can't be any way that it's manipulated... because you refuse to learn how it is indeed manipulated. And it's absolutely pathetic that you're still trying to reverse what "TDS" means. It's not going to happen, you fucking loser, since *you* are always going to be the one who has now *39* threads about Trump. *You* cannot see the world outside of Trump's cock — which you always keep lubricated with your vitriol — whereas I rarely think about him. You cannot evade that simple fact of your wasted life. *You* — and you alone here in UP — have the TDS. You cannot project that without making people laugh at you for being pathetic for such an obviously impotent smoke screen. :D A perfect description of tw: "Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal" I think that tw's inability to escape his TDS only proves Trump correct. People such as tw really are the enemies of society. Tw is a left-wing psychopath who follows Marxist praxis without even realizing it. Tw has voted for the diaper-shitting pedophile fraud resident Biden, and tw will vote again for this same totalitarian destroyer — even as Biden openly sells the nation to China and destroys it from within. I think it's time we took people like tw at their word. Tw truly wants to destroy the West. He's not just *pretending* to be maliciously stupid. He is *indeed* malicious and *knowingly* wants to destroy the West; the rampant stupidity is just his mask; no one is that retarded. Tw is indeed evil. I hope tw lives forever and remembers everything he's done.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 17 11:38:43 "This is why the Hawley example is so useful with exposing tw's psychopathy. Tw, being a cultist in a cult, is incapable of staying on one single subject" the Hawley example (that -you- brought up) is not useful for anything except establishing what a nut you are, as you used it as your sole example to discredit the J6 committee (& couldn't even discredit the clip properly)... that's probably the only 60 secs they spent talking about Hawley & had nothing to do w/ the substance of the hearings, & the bulk of the hearings weren't video clips that could be taken out of context, so no sane person would use that clip to discredit the hearings (but you -didn't- watch the hearings despite lying you did, & are only aware of the few things circulating on your nutbag social media circle so it's all you have) & i change subjects as there are SOOOO many obvious examples & you can't defend ANY, again you dodge on the clip you specifically claimed was deceptive... if now going with the 'but all he/they show is negative stuff' or some conditioning/brainwashing idea, that -still- doesn't show anything deceptive about the video clips (or ANY i've posted), that's -still- Trump being a fucking liar or idiot or whatever... PLUS you -can't- claim i'm brainwashed when SOOOO much is -straight- from Trump's posts or watching him spew words myself... which you can't defend any of, ever, even in the huge posts you make like above, you never even acknowledge a word of his (except occasional teleprompter lines, & which again sound like you pulled from your cultist sources rather than ever listening to him yourself) you are a total embarrassing nutbag, may you some day realize it... the one benefit of Trump winning again is it would be one more chance for you idiots to see the blatantly obvious, since the heaps of evidence so far still can't be noticed for whatever 'bazar' reason
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 17 11:54:56 shitbag: " WOW! FAKE NEWS CNN, THROUGH A LEAK FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INJUSTICE, HAS JUST REPORTED THAT NO CHARGES WILL BE FILED IN THE (MUCH BIGGER THAN MINE!!!) CROOKED JOE BIDEN DOCUMENTS CASE. WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY CORRUPT COUNTRY! " yeah, so similar... let's see: Trump took hundreds of classified docs (thousands of pages), NARA was aware stuff missing & asked for it back... repeatedly... & warned him of criminal consequences (as it was criminal)... Trump jerked them off for over a year... when getting a subpoena, he -didn't- fight it in court, just wanted his lawyers to lie, the lawyers wouldn't agree, so he hid boxes from them when one conducted the search, this was noticed leading to a raid that recovered 100 classified docs (plus Trump likely tried to have security tapes destroyed, but already committed obstruction on the hiding from subpoena) & after that, he -only- got charged on ~10% of the docs he took (& for the obstruction) ------------------ Biden had far fewer docs, NARA never had to ask for them as didn't know any missing & they were returned immediately when found. --- If there was solid evidence Biden knew he had them & had purposely not return, then you could charge on same grounds (if in the significant national security realm unlike the 90% ignored for Trump)... but not surprising if there's no solid evidence of that, or that they might be in the 90%. Whereas Trump doesn't deny having the docs, has acknowledged he had them (but importantly: 'NOT ON THE FLOOR!'), & repeatedly claims he was allowed to have them (which is false, but also is admitting he had them)... if you're being charged for cocaine possession & never had cocaine, you wouldn't be arguing 'i was allowed to have cocaine!', you'd be denying it (also, given he's on tape sharing one of the docs to people, it's kinda obvious he knew... despite his pathetic obvious lie that it was just newspaper clippings which makes no sense in context of the audio (& also despite crazy CC's unspecified temporal reason why that incident was ok)... plus there's the proven times he had the boxes taken to his residence to look through them) ------------------- i see differences, Faux & the cult won't
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 20 14:19:04 the cult knew Trump & MAGA would be vindicated when Tucker got the tapes nothing shown the cult knew Trump & MAGA would be vindicated when Mike Johnson released the tapes nothing shown but by god, they're certain the tapes show stuff!!! (even a Senator bought into a circulating screengrab that someone claimed was a guy is holding a badge... thus proving undercover FBI!...... but he's not holding a badge... & got criminally charged... meh, who cares...) ---- "Liz Cheney & Nancy Pelosi used their corrupt J6 committee to demonize every Trump supporter in the country. What’s being revealed from the J6 tapes is SHOCKING. They lied to the country and used J6 to weaponize government to promote their own corrupt agenda. Horrible people!!" ~ Rep Ronny Jackson, citing nothing (& the senator was Mike Lee) plz prove me wrong... show me the SHOCKING reveals (that aren't just misleading garbage, like the other video of people leaving the building while cops watch... omg! peaceful movement!... which obviously was hours into it & after cops regained control & Trump -finally- told people to leave... as his team had been urging him to do all along)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 20 14:28:50 ...the bulk of the hearings wasn't even about the attack, but the whole cult incapable of watching or knowing anything about it (much like the docs case)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 20 14:33:17 kinda like the Twitter Files... the cult just decided it showed Biden or the FBI had Twitter silence the laptop story even though they didn't show that, they actually showed they didn't (though Elon was a big assist in the misinfo spreading)
murder Member	Mon Nov 20 15:14:59 "... which obviously was hours into it & after cops regained control" After a bitch got shot.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Nov 21 22:03:27 from one of fuckheads multi-daily trial rants: "... They brought Values down to a FRACTION of what they are really worth, like Mar-a-Lago..." oh "like" Mar-a-lago?... you're going w/ that example for the 50th time in a row? the one & only example Trump or any defender has ever cited? weird, almost like there isn't a second one... & another attack on the clerk (as NO [other] adult would be doing): "...his horrendous, seething with ANGER Law Clerk, with her illegal campaign contributions, will find me guilty as hell" unpacking the jam-packed bullshit sentence fragment: - his evidence of hatred is she's a democrat & took a selfie w/ Schumer at some point in her life... (slightly better than his zero evidence on Jack Smith's alleged massive hatred) - her old campaign contributions NOT illegal (or improper in any way)... of the many times he's declared things illegal, not sure ever once it actually was illegal... including when he said it repeatedly as sitting 'president' (which -should- be considered fucking nuts... but he's Homer Simpson as nuclear safety inspector & nobody notices, except Frank Grimes (me)) - and yeah, they "will" find him guilty, as it already happened awhile ago, this isn't the guilt stage... but he will claim 'see! i was right!'... & the cult will continue to rage on
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 22 11:46:54 fuckhead is ranting away about his usual topics... just to cover a few: "Fulton County, Georgia, acknowledges, in a major Consent Decree, that 3,600 individual ballots were DUPLICATED (36 Batches). THAT’S A LOT OF CRIME. When are the rest of the facts coming out? We are all waiting. This is just the beginning. UNBELIEVABLE!" he's brought this up several times now, so just gonna note him being an asshole as always... this was errors during an -audit-, did not affect the election results =========================== " OUR COUNTRY IS UNDER THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF THREAT EVER, AND YET ALL THE DOJ & FBI WANT TO DO IS GO AFTER DONALD TRUMP AND HIS FAMILY. SAD!!! " just embarrassing... why are we in highest threat ever? meh, who cares... lets just repeatedly claim everyone is only working on Trump's crimes... ============================ oh great, he also has Marjorie repeating the above bullshit... Marjorie: "BREAKING NEWS: President Trump reveals thousands of ballots from Fulton County were duplicated in the 2020 election. Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr must immediately investigate and prosecute! Voters deserve to have election integrity! The fraud MUST STOP!" yeah, Trump revealed it... by misrepresenting a report put out months ago (a report not by Trump obviously)... & no criminal motive was found, already investigated, & no prosecution warranted... fuck these total idiots & assholes... ================ + heaps of poll number posts, articles, yadda yadda, i stopped scrolling...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 22 19:13:36 Ted Cruz (citing Fox News anonymous police source): " This confirms our worst fear: the explosion at Rainbow Bridge was a terrorist attack. Both attackers are dead, and one law enforcement officer is injured. I am praying that officer makes a full recovery and is able to spend Thanksgiving surrounded by family and loved ones. Thank you to our law enforcement officers who are remaining vigilant and working to protect Americans traveling for Thanksgiving. " http://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1727406627211330041 that's not how "confirmation" works... & it does NOT seem to be terrorism kinda surprising Trump didn't jump to conclusions in his 50+ posts, but it's not about him so maybe he didn't notice
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 01:20:35 holiday message time: " Happy Thanksgiving to ALL, including the Racist & Incompetent Attorney General of New York State, Letitia “Peekaboo” James, who has let Murder & Violent Crime FLOURISH, & Businesses FLEE; the Radical Left Trump Hating Judge, a “Psycho,” Arthur Engoron, who Criminally Defrauded the State of New York, & ME, by purposely Valuing my Assets at a “tiny” Fraction of what they are really worth in order to convict me of Fraud before even a Trial, or seeing any PROOF, & used his Politically Biased & Corrupt Campaign Finance Violator, Chief Clerk Alison Greenfield, to sit by his side on the “Bench” & tell him what to do; & Crooked Joe Biden, who has WEAPONIZED his Department of Injustice against his Political Opponent, & allowed our Country to go to HELL; & all of the other Radical Left Lunatics, Communists, Fascists, Marxists, Democrats, & RINOS, who are seriously looking to DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. Have no fear, however, we will WIN the Presidential Election of 2024, & MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!! " http://tru...Trump/posts/111458584765047772 so fucking absurd... & no, he's not joking...
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Nov 23 02:41:01 [CC]: "You fell even for one of the most obvious of their deceptions, yet you believe a Gish Gallop of other examples from the Show Trial will somehow be reliable alternatives of "proof"." [tw]: "as you used it as your sole example to discredit the J6 committee" "again you dodge on the clip you specifically claimed was deceptive" Do we see how the logic of tw's cult works? • I explain to him that he needs to stick with one single issue to see if he can use his reason to create an argument. • I explain that Gish-Gallop is a sign of his cult status; it is a constant red herring; it is ADD; it is mental weakness; it is a cult's whataboutism; he can only disprove his cult status by sticking to one issue, but he cannot stick to one issue — even when this mental failing is directly elucidated to him, he cannot overcome it. • He responds by Gish-Galloping and insisting that he *must* Gish Gallop [to keep his position in the cult]. So, even when I explicitly explain to him that the example of Hawley is useful because.. • it is a *single* issue, • it is *one* incredibly *obvious* example, • it is a demonstrably *false* media deception, • everyone is aware of it and therefore tw's failure would be fully displayed in his arguing for the Regime narrative, .. tw cannot stick to the issue. He even responds by saying, "used it as your sole example" (as a negative perception of it being but "one" example), because his Gish-Gallop brain is so rotted by the cult that he insists that he is justified in not only *avoiding* that *one* issue but is justified in Gish-Galloping *further* Trump red herrings as an alternative to his own avoidance. He insulates himself from this cult logic by saying that Trump is just *that* important to him that he *must* misdirect to "SOOOO many obvious examples" (i.e., he must Gish-Gallop). There are "SOOOO many obvious examples" and, it must be that *I* "dodge" them, yet this is little more than projection, since he himself can only dodge. I can stick to this one issue. Tw cannot. In short, he cannot even avoid dodging when there is only one issue, yet he expects his cultist Gish-Gallop to be properly defended by others? Tw has made dozens of false statements in this thread alone, but what use is it to argue these others when he cannot argue just one of them? [tw]: "PLUS you -can't- claim i'm brainwashed when SOOOO much is -straight- from Trump's posts or watching him spew words myself..." [tw]: "despite lying you did" Actually I can indeed claim *and* demonstrate that you are indeed brainwashed. Just look at your punctuation. Look at your constant "All Caps" insanity. Look at how you resist any counter-arguments — and cannot even address them! Look at how you prepare to celebrate your 40th thread of this derangement. You are insane. You are in a cult. You are evil. Of the last category (evil), I believe that your.. • constant projections, • Gish-Gallop, • inability to apply ideological consistency, • inability to communicate without devolving into TDS/"but Trump" logic, and • your total ignorance and willingness to stay ignorant with "TLDR" logic, ..is proof not only that you are in a cult but that you *enjoy* the cult and *prefer* the cult; you use the cult's deceptions intentionally; you hide behind this deranged persona as an excuse to achieve the cult's objective of annihilation. I believe you to be evil because you must intuitively know that you are advocating for • mass-murderers, • genocidal maniacs, • war-mongers, • pedophiles, • sexual depravity, • West-destroying politics, • totalitarianism, • an enslaving ideology, ..yet you continue to do so. I do not think it to be an accident — not the Gish Gallop, not the All Caps performances, not the 39 threads. I think that a person's character ultimately determines his or her politics, and there is a certain character of person who is drawn into this kind of death cult. The type of person who joins a death cult is a person who truly wants his resentment to be turned upon the world as a total annihilation. Trump was merely an excuse for this resentful mind. Being wholly unwilling to hear contradictory opinions is how that resentment is kept on its goal of annihilation and enslavement. Tw is a genocidal maniac and cultist who is only prevented the discharge of his mania by the same dis-empowerment that fed his resentment in the first place. Everything else is just window-dressing around this need for the genocide of the Regime's enemies. He does not even know the face of this Leviathan Regime, he simply knows that he must obey its tenants to be granted these rights of annihilation. But, again, I, in contradiction, hope that tw and people like him live forever and remember everything that they've done to serve these gods of death.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 11:35:56 skimming thru, standard nonsense CC still can cite anything substantive about J6 committee evidence & testimony... & still can't show -anything- deceptive about -any- clip i've posted but let's remember CC believes the Pence plan was Trump wanting Pence to have Congress vote on accepting the electoral votes... something nobody claims & makes no sense at all as was already going to happen & it's written down that that's not it... (yet crazy CC will call it Gish Gallop to even mention this..) CC can't defend ANY item -i've- brought up... instead brings up a Hawley clip, w/ tortured explanation as to why it's supposedly deceptive, when it was just a joke & not evidence of anything to begin with but apparently he was just office jogging in the same direction & at the same time as others were fleeing? whatever... & CC also presents a clip about Trump still trying to have election overturned months later, which TDS CC probably can't imagine was happening as Trump is a stable genius who doesn't do crazy shit, even though he -provably- was, as well as MAGAts who ran on decertifying their state's elections in the midterms) CC is a lost cause, i think i'm done listening again... i like easy win arguments but this is just weird & sad
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 11:48:51 in fairness to fuckhead, after his 2am 'Happy Thanksgiving' rant, they have now put out a video of him reading a teleprompter w/ a normal adult message, including: "...we gather with our loved ones and give thanks to almighty God for his many blessings..." http://tru...Trump/posts/111460021756457324 totally sounds like him
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 11:59:51 his 2am rant (standard holiday 'airing of grievances') is a few posts up, above CC's nonsense post... including again attacking the clerk, including her name, (as specifically told not to) w/ again baseless bullshit attacks that are not about 'defending him' anyone not receiving special privileges would be spending some time in jail for contempt
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Nov 23 18:43:08 [tw, (TDS Bot, cultist of the totalitarian Regime)] : "skimming thru, standard nonsense [/] CC still can cite anything substantive about J6 committee evidence & testimony... & still can't show -anything- deceptive about -any- clip i've posted" There it is, yet again: the eternal self-contradiction of the cultist. Two sentences right next to each other which contradict each other, yet he cannot recognize this contradiction since this contradiction necessarily maintains his role in the cult and helps him to observe its religious rites. More explicitly: 1) Tw says that he didn't even read my words 2) Tw claims that I said nothing substantive How can the two be reconciled? In a baseline level of good faith: • Either he read my words and found nothing substantive, or • he did not read my words and cannot determine if there was anything substantive. But the cult gives him a third option: • Do not read my words *and* still claim that there was nothing substantive. The contradiction is impossible to sustain with even the slightest bit of rationality (e.g., How can one claim that there is nothing substantive when one is ignorant of the argument?), but the cult does not want rationality — it wants obedience. Tw will continue to evade my argument in my original comment ("Sat Nov 04 10:41:47"), hoping only that new readers to his TDS/psychosis thread will simply read his latest lie about me and take it as "true" (e.g., that I "still can't show -anything-"), meanwhile, he never addressed my original argument where I did indeed show quite a bit of something. He literally *cannot* face argument. He must live within the third option of declaring that he is correct without ever looking over the walls of his cult. He cannot help but Gish-Gallop to disguise his cultist behavior. No matter how many times that I point out that he cannot stick to one argument, he will insist on "refuting" this by attempting to Gish-Gallop a dozen more as "proof". But the projection is at least consistent: [tw]: "which TDS [tw]" [tw]: "[tw] is a lost cause" That is, we must accept that tw is indeed a lost cause. He has chosen to remain in his cult. We can visit him at his cult and try to get him to see the world outside of its walls, but any time he approaches the walls he instinctively recoils and pisses himself, pulling away from any who attempt to get him to cross the cult's threshold. If there is any perception remaining in a cultist, it is that the cultist recognizes when he is being asked to see something outside of the Overton Window of the cult. This is the new "survival instinct" of the cultist. Cult collectivism does not survive on truth; it survives on obedience — obedience to the cult, even as it overtly spells self-destruction.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 21:54:06 we live in different worlds i like facts & reality & logic... if one claims a video is deceptive, i expect that person can show how it's deceptive... it specifically... not broad generalizations of how it could be (& i'm not talking Hawley) i don't know your world's logic, wherein everything can be claimed deceptive without even looking at it... & weird nonsensical claims are entirely made-up (like your Pence plan theory) let's not talk further
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 21:56:02 ...and you also decided 100% of classified docs do not need classified, in that you were certain Trump took nothing improper without any care at all of the contents... TDS
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 23 21:56:22 Happy Thanksgiving to the both of you.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 21:59:03 (...& you will 'counter' ^that by claiming lots of docs are overclassified or some other weird shit that you think is a counter argument...but is not... at all... your conclusion, by the rules of logic, was 100% of classified docs do not need classified as that's the only way you could be certain he took nothing improper, which is what you decided w/ no knowledge of any of the docs...) TDS
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Nov 23 22:00:11 Happy Thanksgiving, Trump is a total piece of shit liar, fraud, child, yadda yadda... as is the presidential way to state a holiday message
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Nov 23 23:11:50 [tw ]: "i like facts & reality & logic..." More projection. Thank you for the compliment. :) I wish you too could possess this gift! [tw]: "if one claims a video is deceptive, i expect that person can show how it's deceptive.." Awesome! I did exactly that. :) [tw]: "...and you also" Awwww. Right back to Gish Gallop. He couldn't help it, lol. [tw]: "TDS" [tw]: "TDS" Yes, you do have TDS. You, and no one else here. Your attempts at projection fool not even yourself. :) [tw]: "Happy Thanksgiving, [Biden is a diaper-shitting pedophile totalitarian ass-clown Resident puppet who I pray to for he will bring about the annihilation of the West and simultaneously end the burden of my consciousness through my death]." Wow. So brave. So bold! A boy of principles! ;D
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 25 11:57:21 child: " Oh, really bad news! The Owned by China Forbes Magazine deal with Russia just fell apart, so China will continue to own and run it, and say bad things about your favorite President, ME. But eventually it will cease to exist, be worthless. BAD WRITERS! Anyone that pays more than $50 Million for this pathetic outlet of Fake News is a fool! " i wonder if the other candidates will weigh in on Forbes... & pretend its run by China... when did he start attacking them? oh, when they left him off their 400 list... very important... & called it 'election interference!'... nothing fucking idiotic here, nope
Rugian Member	Sat Nov 25 12:39:13 This article contains a lot of links/images that need to be viewed to fully appreciate the context, but: "Engoron’s ‘Co-Judge’ Law Clerk, Allison Greenfield, Attended Anti-Trump Events Endorsing Biden & Tish James, Spurred on By Impeachment Leader Dan Goldman. Allison Greenfield, law clerk to Judge Arthur Engoron, has been recently involved with leading anti-Trump organizations in New York City, and has even been caught on camera attending the “Fall Event” of a group called the “Grand Street Democrats” in October 2022. Greenfield – whose partisan activities were the basis for Judge Arthur Engoron’s now-overturned gag order against President Donald Trump – has been advising Engoron throughout the case, notably glaring at Trump and rolling her eyes during presentations by Trump’s lawyers, according to in-court witnesses. Footage posted to the Judicial Protest X account early November shows Greenfield at the Grand St Dems event where speakers and the organization itself endorsed Attorney General Letitia James, whose partisan campaigning sparked the case against Trump in the first instance. The group has also endorsed James on its website: Greenfield is also featured prominently on the Grand St Dems pages, and can be seen in the video, below, cheering for Joe Biden and even exclaiming, “Marijuana, heh heh heh!” at one point in the video (1:02), raising questions about her own potential drug use and advocacy: This level of involvement in highly partisan activity is wildly unusual for a law clerk, especially one presiding over a trial of a former president and current presidential candidate running against the very people Greenfield is heard cheering on in the video. Speakers at the event hurled epithets at Trump supporters, calling the MAGA movement “dangerous” and “anti-democratic,” while also claiming to have seen “the consequences of the former president [Trump]” in New York. An image of Greenfield posing with far-left activists for the Grand St Dems Instagram page was even “liked” by former lead counsel in the first Trump impeachment, Dan Goldman, highlighting the anti-Trump nature of the event. By her own admission, Greenfield has acted as a “co-judge” in the New York case against Donald Trump – something highly inappropriate for an unelected member of court staff. Greenfield has gone so far as to refer to herself and the judge using the term ‘we‘ at a candidate forum. Greenfield, at the time, was seeking office as a judge on the Manhattan Civil Court. At the same candidate forum, Greenfield stated her judicial philosophy would be driven not by the facts and the law, but by political considerations. She said: “[o]ne thing that I think is incredibly important to consider, what would the people who elected me want me to do and is there any precedent… that would allow me to achieve that outcome.” Greenfield’s view of the law is far outside the judicial mainstream, and in clear violation of New York’s Rules of Judicial Conduct which state: “A judge shall be faithful to the law and maintain professional competence in it. A judge shall not be swayed by partisan interests, public clamor or fear of criticism.” Another concerning revelation is that Greenfield has been in violation of the Rules of Judicial Conduct throughout the course of the trial dude to her political contributions: The mistrial filing cited above, provides nearly three pages of political contributions made in excess of the limits set by the Rules for Judicial Conduct. Some of the groups Greenfield contributed to, while the civil fraud case against Trump was pending, included organizations that were actively and publicly supporting Letitia James for Attorney General – raising further concerns regarding partisan impropriety by Engoron’s law clerk. Less than two weeks before James filed her civil fraud case against former President Trump, the Grand Street Democrats organization posted on X (formerly Twitter): The mistrial filing by former President Trump’s attorneys also makes clear that much of this information was hidden from the public and the court because of Engoron’s gag order. Late on Friday, November 17th, Engoron rejected the mistrial filing, claiming the long trail of evidence against Greenfield was “without merit”." http://the...mpeachment-leader-dan-goldman/ I have no idea whether this is all correct or not (nor do I particularly care), but My President has said it is so I believe it unquestionably
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Nov 25 21:43:06 yes, an article by a Trump ball-licker can't be trusted nice of him to quote Trump's attorneys then ignore the details of why it was rejected on donations: " ... Greenfield ran as a Democrat for a civil court judgeship in Manhattan last year. Under the ethics rules, candidates can exceed the contribution limit to buy tickets to political events, with some limitations. New York judicial candidates often attend such functions, which are seen as helpful to securing a party’s endorsement. Legal experts say candidates are ethically obligated to pay instead of accepting complimentary tickets. Engoron wrote that his clerk has aimed for an elected judgeship since 2020, and he said her contributions were legal and ethical, falling below the limit once tickets to political gatherings were subtracted. He called the defense’s allegations of partisan stain “nonsensical.” ... "http://www...-his-new-york-civil-fraud-case & i doubt she called herself the 'co-judge' but the ball-licker cites no source to check it
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Nov 26 01:55:35 granted, it’s better than when revealing the guy who officiated Jack Smiths wedding was appointed by Obama (as evidence of bias... imagine posting such a stupid thing, but nothing is too stupid for Trump, and nobody notices) but I’m sure Trump would be fine if every single person involved was a republican right? like with Comey, McCabe, Wray, Mueller...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 27 11:37:57 just embarrassing (multiple times): " Whenever I sarcastically insert the name Obama for Biden as an indication that others may actually be having a very big influence in running our Country, Ron DeSanctimonious and his failing campaign apparatus, together with the Democrat’s Radical Left “Disinformation Machine,” go wild saying that “Trump doesn’t know the name of our President, (CROOKED!) Joe Biden. He must be cognitively impaired.” No, I know both names very well, never mix them up, and know that they are destroying our Country. Also, and as reported, I just took a cognitive test as part of my Physical Exam, and ACED it. Also ACED (a perfect score!) one taken while in the White House. Biden should take one so we can determine why he wants Open Borders, No Energy Independence, A Woke Military, High Inflation, No Voter I.D., Men playing In Women’s Sports, Only Electric Cars & Trucks, A Weaponized DOJ/FBI, and so many other CRAZY things!!! " "sarcastically" - yeah, like with the light & disinfectant in the body... he eventually claimed sarcastic despite it on video & incredibly clearly not "never mix them up" - yeah, you do, multiple times w/ no indication of sarcasm & when it wouldn't even make sense (like saying he beat Obama in an election) "just took a cognitive test as part of my Physical Exam, and ACED it. Also ACED (a perfect score!) one taken while in the White House" - great, a 2nd dementia test to brag about
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Nov 27 11:42:31 fuckhead also re-'tweeted' this image: http://sta.../original/90d6f27fb0575492.jpg ^claims Trump requested 10k national guard troops to guard the Capitol on J6, but Pelosi "denied" the request she has no ability to do that, if he had requested them they would've been there (it's repeated bullshit they put out, but usually not stated so grossly false by Trump)
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